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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Divoc19(f): 4:51pm On Feb 22
Yes. Raise your kids in Africa before you send them abroad, they will thank God and appreciate you later

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Christistruth00: 4:51pm On Feb 22
VenumX:
The one on the left was raised in obodo oyibo. The thing on the right was raised in nizooria.

You don't need anyone to tell you that Africa produces nothing but animals.


By the time the one on the right spends 6 months in UK he will be unrecognisable.

That doesn’t mean that there are no Criminals in the UK but there are more alternatives to Crime.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 4:51pm On Feb 22
yes and no
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Farki: 4:52pm On Feb 22
The answer is NO

If it was we wouldn't have so many people trying to escape to "get a better life for their children".

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by vioment: 4:53pm On Feb 22
Not now if you can.


There is hope.


Elementary school, maybe.
Secondary school now, is not good any more.

University not yet.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by jaxxy(m): 4:53pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:


But why "suffer" while that energy can be channeled to creativity?

Just like we learn more from failure than success, we learn alot of things from suffering and only experience can teach u some of it. It’s no mistake Many of best minds and achievers suffered at one point in time. undecided
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Asadujames202(m): 4:53pm On Feb 22
Actually, kids raised in the west are mooncalfs poorly equipped for a grueling life
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Tetehjewels: 4:54pm On Feb 22
etrange:
I've had this argument several times. Our pride is all we've got going for us as Africans but we should know when to draw the line. You want to send a child to Africa at his formative age knowing fully well that that's exactly when he needs to be enjoying all the western world has to offer? Foundations are laid in secondary schools, don't let your child miss out on that. Americans are known for inventions while Nigerians are known for scamming. Stereotyping is wrong cause we have both good and bad people everywhere but think about it, are kids really better of in a country like this? I don't think. I think a kid that will be good will be good regardless of where he's raised.

You have been brainwashed. The worst scammers are actually in the western world and not from Africa.

You should have stopped at inventiveness. You are the one joining them to stereotype your Africa because that is the part they have brainwashed you into seeing same way they brainwashed you into seeing all the niceties in the west and not the horrors of their system.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by moredolu(m): 4:54pm On Feb 22
In my own little way as a parent, apart from not being trying to avoid parenting responsibility its very good for one's to train their children by themselves. Society would contribute from where you stop. Let give children a good home training they will fix well in the society.
descarado:

Gbam! kiss
I don talk tire.
Western culture no dey my house o.
I don't actually like their culture.
When in Nigeria I introduced my kids to Asian culture. Music, drama etc. West have better culture before but cancel culture has striped them of everything with their yeye feminism( the new religion).

Even prefer some Muslim countries not the radical ones.


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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by descarado: 4:54pm On Feb 22
SatanicPriest:
not really africa but nigeria. i have been to ethopia and tanzania and for some reason my normal aggressive behavior was about coming out. the way they looked at me like a mad mad eh, no be person tell me to lock up my gra gra behaviour . naija just makes u aggressive . so its more of a Nigerian thing than an african thing
Thank you.
A Ghanaian outside Ghana behaves better, represents Africa better than a Nigerian.
Or is it those from southern Africa?

We only chest beat when we see other African countries but outside we behave like animals.
Look at this forum e.g, so vile, u can't communicate without cursing and we call that the naija factor. Money overrides every other thing and we answer only to money.
We only pretend to care if its a means to a financial outcome.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by WoundedLamb: 4:55pm On Feb 22
jaxxy:


Just like we learn more from failure than success, we learn alot of things from suffering and only experience can teach u some of it. It’s no mistake Many of best minds and achievers suffered at one point in time. undecided

Yes but not physical suffering. I don't know how carrying a bucket of water or reading with candles or fighting for a bus would help anyone in the American society. Lol. But I'm open to learning more.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Ojycelarma: 4:55pm On Feb 22
Sincerely speaking they both have the ups and downs.. the western world might be disrespectful but they are taught how to learn at a very young age.. you could also see a well behaved western kid just like you could see in Africa too.. raising of a child as different aspects... some Africans eat it wrong and some western get it wrong, generalization is difficult... both parents from both part of the world could fail at their homework... but trust me I would rather raise my child over there and bring them to my cradle just to get familiar with where they are from

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by LordKO(m): 4:56pm On Feb 22
An environment has almost nothing to do with how a child turns out as an adult ethically; instead, the ethical leanings and or worldview of the parents/guardians couple with the child's mental quotient has everything to do with how he/she will turn out as an adult.

In fact, with the obvious ethical leanings and worldviews of most of the posters on this thread, the chances of having the proverbial thought of sending some of your offspring or grand offspring to Africa for futile ethical reasons is inevitable; unless something urgently is done to curb the menace - misinformation, bigotry, misrepresentation, greed, misinterpretation, etc.

Case study

- A blanket statement from the mindset that held the belief that African parents do not allow their children to exercise their liberty, while the Western parents do allow their children to exercise theirs without regards to decorum:

This I know isn't true, citing my background. Where it's a case, however, know that it isn't a general phenomenon. Anyone with this kind of blanket statement mindset or who truly experience such because their parents are from weak ethical leanings hardly exercise their liberty within the limits of decorum, and they tend to allow their children to exercise their liberty without regards to decorum and in the course of doing so they misrepresent how the elite Whites truly train their children. The elite Whites do not encourage their children to exercise their liberty outside the limits of decorum.

- A blanket statement from the mindset that held the belief that women/wives are oppressed in Africa:

This I know isn't true too, citing my background. Anyone with this kind of blanket statement mindset, or who truly experience such because their parents are from weak ethical leanings, is likely going to abuse the freedom the West offers erroneously through contention, as a woman, while in the case of a man, he'll become effeminate, and the end result is raising children who witness their parents either scheming to outdo each other or abusing each other, thereby making them not having respect for one or both parents and losing their sense of decorum in general.

Meanwhile, there's a different set of parents whose purpose of sending their children to Africa isn't because of ethical issues, but for the purpose of cultural inculcation, even though they oftentimes wittingly or unwittingly say that it is for ethical reasons. They want their children to have that sense of Nigeria/Africa is your place of origin and true home - this is called never forget your root under no circumstances. This is good because it discourages brain drain; embassies do acknowledge this through some of the measures they put in place when granting visas.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 4:58pm On Feb 22
The answer is an emphatic NO. What can a child possibly gain from blackouts or this extreme hardship? You experienced Nigeria, you want your children to experience the same Nigeria.


Na generational curse?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Reference(m): 4:59pm On Feb 22
I think for the formative years a child will do better here in a reasonably resourced, reasonably enlightened family. Beyond the that the gap begins to open up quite markedly.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by floss(m): 4:59pm On Feb 22
Only those that grew up in the west and also in Africa will know better, but you can't tell me raising up your kids in Zoogeria is a good thing. Reject that OP, for your own good. Zoogeria is hell on earth.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Eriokanmi: 4:59pm On Feb 22
Yes, yes and yes!!!
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by InvertedHammer: 5:02pm On Feb 22
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Unless the Africa he means does not include Nigeria.

Nigeria don cast a long time ago. The Nigeria he knew is no longer the Nigeria available these days.
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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Godszilla: 5:03pm On Feb 22
I feel the key word here is better off, which can be subjective that is what you want from your child. note intelligence doesnt equate to wisdom. Obviously they will be more expose than your average africa child.

So by better off is what do you really value from a child. I will always stay with africa way of bringing up a child not perfect because nothing is but its a system that tries to guard the curious mind of a child although we are seriously losing this sha. You cant spare the rod and expect the child to learn. train up a child in the way of the lord so it doesnt depart when she grows up, a lot has really change in africa cos of this our western thing we are picking. there is alot of poistive stuffs to pick from the western world eg Technology, working economy,etc

"Genuine love will take no account of what gratifies the other, of what is agreeable to him and affords him satisfaction, but will only be guided by what is useful to him, without considering whether it affords him pleasure or not. That is real love and service. for love cannot be separated from justice"

WoundedLamb:
An African friend always argue that kids are better of raised in Africa. He said he'd send his two boys to Nigeria so they'd know what life is all about. I asked him "what life is all about", he said hardship, blackouts, etc. He said kids raised in the Americas aren't respectful and organized cause they didn't suffer. And that brings me to the topic of this thread. Is the Nigerian style of raising kids really the ideal model? I just want to share my opinion on the things my friend mentioned as reasons to send his boys to Africa: respectful and organized and the need to "suffer small" (his words).

Respectful: In the Nigerian society, elders don't usually explain to kids why they shouldn't do some things; they just authoritatively ask them not to do it and the kids better not ask why. Kids grow up respecting thier elders out of fear (and not admiration or love). The implication of this is that they do a lot things without their patents' knowledge, and they get used to this "hidden lifestyle" that makes it almost impossible for parents to truly know thier children. This in turn denies the parents the opportunity to identify and correct some unwanted behaviours as the kids always tell them just what they want to hear. And then it's only a matter of time before some of these kids outgrow the fear and reveal their true personalities (good luck with your mystery parcel at this point). Whereas in the Americas, kids are engaged and not commanded. You can easily tell the direction your child is headed.

Organized: He said kids raised in Africa are more organized and not crazy like their American counterparts who do all sorts of things like tattoos, plastic surgery, etc. Yes, Americans have a lot of deviants, but that's why new ideas/findings pop up everyday. I believe Africans force thier youngsters to fit into a predefined pattern of life and thereby reducing the chances of creativity. In Africa, you are supposed to go to school, get a job, get married and make children (and there are ages for all these). Then your children will do the same and the cycle continues. This "organised" pattern is the African dream; it is more important than any other dream or even the world itself, and any deviation is frowned upon. Africans think it's a crazy for a man to dedicate his life to studying mosquitoes even if that's his dream (yet Africans are the most affected by these killer insects), Africans think it's crazy for a woman to say she ain't getting married but would rather use her money to adopt and raise orphaned kids. A friend I was teaching software development had to quit cause "he didn't have time anymore". According to him, he had gotten to the age of marriage. And you wonder why nothing spectacular comes out of this continent? Alternative lifestyles might be scary but that's the wheel of progress.

"Suffer small": This one makes me laugh and I usually use it to tease my friend. Kids don't need to suffer small. Kids need the skills that would make them survive in their environment. If carrying water, fighting for a bus, using candles and going to the farm equip the child for the African life, great (just don't overdo it). But that's not necessarily a model. It's something they do out of necessity. A kid who is born in North America does not need to go to Africa to "suffer small". I don't even own a bucket as an adult and I'll probably never buy one. A kid born here needs DIY skills amongst others.

I don't have a problem with some people wanting their kids to go to Africa to learn thier culture but I don't subscribe to the idea that kids raised in Africa are[b] better off[/b]. What do you think?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Tetehjewels: 5:03pm On Feb 22
floss:
Only those that grew up in the west and also in Africa will know better, but you can't tell me raising up your kids in Zoogeria is a good thing. Reject that OP, for your own good. Zoogeria is hell on earth.

Brainwashed soul

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Slimdan360(m): 5:04pm On Feb 22
I also think kids raised in Nigeria are better off,but take note, not all kids raised in Nigeria turn out fine,the best are those raised by average parents,the importance of hardwork is ingrained in them at an early age, respect for elders and for parents are also important aspects,fear for parents at early stage of life which later turns to respect as the child grows older is also there. let me tell u a story,when I wrote jamb,I scored relatively good and wanted to change to another University for some reasons but my dad disagreed and used that African parent force on me,I wasn't happy about it initially but when cutoff mark for the school I intended changing to came out,I didn't meet the cutoff I thought would not have been a problem,what am saying in essence Is that if I were to be a kid raised in America,I definitely would have changed universities and that would have been a big mistake I would not have been able to recover from. At teenage age, children exhibit youthful exuberance and require guide from someone they both respect and fear to walk them through it. the moment I realised the level of insolence kids raised in America exhibits was when I watched the movie "power",it will be difficult for a kid raised by an average Nigerian parent to turn out like Tariq in that movie (nb=emphasis on average Nigerian parent,not the extremely rich or extremely poor parent)

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by BigDawsNet: 5:06pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:


If they are as "spoilt" as their counterparts in North America, why then would anyone send his kids home to 'suffer small' and be more hardworking/respectful/organized?

Well I didn't mention anything like "spoilt" but the only difference from those kids in Lagos and Abuja with the Northamerica is that they are discipline... They are not spoilt like the foreign kids and they don't abuse their parent...no kids in Nigeria will dial 911 ...

they're never disrespectful, they follow the lifestyle of Nigeria and their parents are very happy these kids are growing up in Nigeria because they can learn how to be respectful..

I'm not sure if people still send their kids to Nigeria this days to learn how to be a good kid

I only know of my cousin that sent his son to Nigeria for few months so he can drop in weight grin
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by kolnel: 5:07pm On Feb 22
whatever rocks your boat
Most of the times, parents send their kids home so they can cope with the stress here.
kids are kids everywhere, its the style of parenting that differs.
while its true that the exposure here is not helpful, I will still choose here over Africa. The education at home is archaic.
The most important is finding time for the kids. But that won't happen when parents work minimum paying jobs and the have to work back to back.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by akigbemaru: 5:07pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:
An African friend always argue that kids are better of raised in Africa. He said he'd send his two boys to Nigeria so they'd know what life is all about. I asked him "what life is all about", he said hardship, blackouts, etc. He said kids raised in the Americas aren't respectful and organized cause they didn't suffer. And that brings me to the topic of this thread. Is the Nigerian style of raising kids really the ideal model? I just want to share my opinion on the things my friend mentioned as reasons to send his boys to Africa: respectful and organized and the need to "suffer small" (his words).

Respectful: In the Nigerian society, elders don't usually explain to kids why they shouldn't do some things; they just authoritatively ask them not to do it and the kids better not ask why. Kids grow up respecting thier elders out of fear (and not admiration or love). The implication of this is that they do a lot things without their patents' knowledge, and they get used to this "hidden lifestyle" that makes it almost impossible for parents to truly know thier children. This in turn denies the parents the opportunity to identify and correct some unwanted behaviours as the kids always tell them just what they want to hear. And then it's only a matter of time before some of these kids outgrow the fear and reveal their true personalities (good luck with your mystery parcel at this point). Whereas in the Americas, kids are engaged and not commanded. You can easily tell the direction your child is headed.

Organized: He said kids raised in Africa are more organized and not crazy like their American counterparts who do all sorts of things like tattoos, plastic surgery, etc. Yes, Americans have a lot of deviants, but that's why new ideas/findings pop up everyday. I believe Africans force thier youngsters to fit into a predefined pattern of life and thereby reducing the chances of creativity. In Africa, you are supposed to go to school, get a job, get married and make children (and there are ages for all these). Then your children will do the same and the cycle continues. This "organised" pattern is the African dream; it is more important than any other dream or even the world itself, and any deviation is frowned upon. Africans think it's a crazy for a man to dedicate his life to studying mosquitoes even if that's his dream (yet Africans are the most affected by these killer insects), Africans think it's crazy for a woman to say she ain't getting married but would rather use her money to adopt and raise orphaned kids. A friend I was teaching software development had to quit cause "he didn't have time anymore". According to him, he had gotten to the age of marriage. And you wonder why nothing spectacular comes out of this continent? Alternative lifestyles might be scary but that's the wheel of progress.

"Suffer small": This one makes me laugh and I usually use it to tease my friend. Kids don't need to suffer small. Kids need the skills that would make them survive in their environment. If carrying water, fighting for a bus, using candles and going to the farm equip the child for the African life, great (just don't overdo it). But that's not necessarily a model. It's something they do out of necessity. A kid who is born in North America does not need to go to Africa to "suffer small". I don't even own a bucket as an adult and I'll probably never buy one. A kid born here needs DIY skills amongst others.

I don't have a problem with some people wanting their kids to go to Africa to learn thier culture but I don't subscribe to the idea that kids raised in Africa are better off. What do you think?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Reeses: 5:07pm On Feb 22
This same America i live in? All my children will surely go back to Nigeria for highschool then return for college i cant gamble on this nah its necessary.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by thebosstrevor1: 5:08pm On Feb 22
Kayberg:
A bad child will be bad.
A good child will be good.
A good child can still become bad.
A bad child can still become good.
It's not a matter of training or suffering.

What sort of mentality is this.

Parents, the church, teachers and the environment all have a role to play in a child's life.

Children do not train themselves, they imitate what they see, if a parent is bad, they imitate that and that will become their reality.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by floss(m): 5:09pm On Feb 22
How I wish Elon Musk can just transport all Nigerians all over the world to Mars so that they will all understand themselves and relate better there with their irrational mentality... Earth will be a better place, Nigeria is the problem Africa and the world is facing, anywhere they are SANITY stops existing.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Yankee101: 5:12pm On Feb 22
If you have security, good education, Infrastructure and rule of law, yes!

Pickin dey lost for obodo oyinbo (drugs, disrespect, depression, atheism, dabauchery)
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by VenumX: 5:13pm On Feb 22
Christistruth00:



By the time the one on the right spends 6 months in UK he will be unrecognisable.

That doesn’t mean that there are no Criminals in the UK but there are more alternatives to Crime.

A criminal is a criminal regardless of where he/she was brought up. I can bet you that the one on the right will still land in UK jail.

No matter how hungry a disciplined individual is, he/she will never steal or kill.

Nigeria is the wrong place to raise children.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by MisterRuk(m): 5:13pm On Feb 22
I can't say for the whole Africa, but for Nigeria our parenting system is "toxic". Unless you retrain yourself mainstream parenting system in Nigeria creates two types of people: Jagudas and simps. In the Asian and Western world older generations see youngsters as potentials, as seeds to fertilized to bring forth fruits and carry on a legacy. In many Nigerian homes young ones are seen as nothing but tools. Many of us don't teach our young ones good values but when they commit a flaw we are quick to rain beating upon them.

If you think training a child in the "Africa way" is ideal, shebi the family is the core of every society ? Look around you, the characters of many millenials and gen Z in today's Nigeria, you will realize that there have been a lot of flaws in raising children over the past years.

Again these guys outside have a strong family system where family values are shared, both nuclear and extended. It's sad to say that in Nigeria our traditional family system is breaking apart, there is so much envy, segregation, fear and distrust among family members ( fear of village people is a subtle sign of that). In many African homes there are no family values, you just need someone to fear in order to behave.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Godbpraised: 5:14pm On Feb 22
This is my take, i feel that it would be better to bring the child up in Africa at his/her formative ages, once he attains age 17 or 18 years send him back to the West. That way he/she would appreciate what you have done as a father or mother.
etrange:
I've had this argument several times. Our pride is all we've got going for us as Africans but we should know when to draw the line. You want to send a child to Africa at his formative age knowing fully well that that's exactly when he needs to be enjoying all the western world has to offer? Foundations are laid in secondary schools, don't let your child miss out on that. Americans are known for inventions while Nigerians are known for scamming. Stereotyping is wrong cause we have both good and bad people everywhere but think about it, are kids really better of in a country like this? I don't think. I think a kid that will be good will be good regardless of where he's raised.

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