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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by sunvillequeen(f): 8:34pm On Mar 04, 2021
NaijaGoBetter20:


Yes
No.... It's not.
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by josite: 8:35pm On Mar 04, 2021

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by subcbouy: 8:41pm On Mar 04, 2021
All these mushroom professors who have no article published in Elsevier journal will too be shouting international recognition. Awon olodo professors! na to dey intimidate student dem know!

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Cajal(m): 8:49pm On Mar 04, 2021
bareal:
It's not their fault, at least a certain stark illiterate is the president deputised by a supposedly Professor of law emeritus...This is Nigeria
See illiteracy....
U are calling an army GENERAL a stark illiterate
There is problem ooo!!!!!

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by LoveThemChubby(m): 9:05pm On Mar 04, 2021
Evilgenuis:
I don't see anything wrong with it... If the person in question has the leadership qualities the office needs. After all, someone without a certificate is a president of a nation of more than 200m people grin grin grin angry
It is not for you to decide. How can a non-PhD holder award PhD? It is not done anywhere in the world.
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Cmanforall: 9:10pm On Mar 04, 2021
juniorstar:
do they know what ppl go through to get fellowship FWACP/FWACS or NMPCN . the amount of research done to get this fellowship.or they think these colleges dash ppl these things. for their PhD they allow trial and errors but with human life such isn't allowed.
It is the people, the professors or examiners that make it unnecessarily tough.
In the US, once you start your residency, you already know when you will finish.
The pressure consultants put on residents can be show of superiority.

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by legacystore: 9:19pm On Mar 04, 2021
sunvillequeen:
Our people won't stop showing stupidity being a fellow is higher than having a PhD. And when has PhD become a criteria for vc ship

The problem is that VC confers PhD degree and it's improper to confer a degree u don't have on graduates.

Professors of medicine should stay off VC position since almost all don't have PhD

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by obstead200(m): 9:21pm On Mar 04, 2021
juniorstar:
do they know what ppl go through to get fellowship FWACP/FWACS or NMPCN. the amount of research done to get this fellowship.or they think these colleges dash ppl these things. for their PhD they allow trial and errors but with human life such isn't allowed.
My take is:
If the fellowship qualifies him to become a professor, then I guess it should qualify him to be a VC

I hate hypocrisy. Obviously someone with eyes on the VC seat is sponsoring this media campaign.

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Jman06(m): 9:23pm On Mar 04, 2021
Professional qualifications are different from academic qualifications!

In Nigeria, we like to turn things upside down!
We borrowed western education from the west but we always try to pretend like though we are wiser than the west from whom we borrowed these things.

In the west, you have no business in the academic environment without a PhD!

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Nobody: 9:43pm On Mar 04, 2021
sunvillequeen:
Our people won't stop showing stupidity being a fellow is higher than having a PhD. And when has PhD become a criteria criterion for vc ship
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 10:12pm On Mar 04, 2021
Jafar1:
Is having PhD one of the criteria for choosing a VC?

Just Asking oo..

Besides, our whole country is lead by someone who don't hav even a waec result
Yes but it depend on the university
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Gordieshegz(m): 10:13pm On Mar 04, 2021
Cmanforall:

It is the people, the professors or examiners that make it unnecessarily tough.
In the US, once you start your residency, you already know when you will finish.
The pressure consultants put on residents can be show of superiority.

Actually, same can be said about PhD too..
About 3 to 5 years depending on having a master's already or not.
you getting done in time depends on you..


About the topic, what we have here is a clear case of flexing of political muscles. The structure of a fellowship is not in anyway of lower standard to PhD.

I expect MDCN to incorporate PhD into their Fellowship curricula soon.

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 10:14pm On Mar 04, 2021
obstead200:

My take is:
If the fellowship qualifies him to become a professor, then I guess it should qualify him to be a VC

I hate hypocrisy. Obviously someone with eyes on the VC seat is sponsoring this media campaign.

This was what lead to resident doctor strike last year or so
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Lamasta(m): 10:15pm On Mar 04, 2021
capitalzero:


Imagine!!! Saying that professors of medicine are not qualified to be vc is ridiculous. What qualify them to become professors should qualify them to become vc?
VC is an appointment while professor is promotion so its not same
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 10:17pm On Mar 04, 2021
josite:



U don't even need a PhD to be made a professor so why will you need a PhD to become a VC.
It depend on the university.
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by capitalzero: 10:20pm On Mar 04, 2021
Lamasta:

VC is an appointment while professor is promotion so its not same
Professors can also be appointed.
What are the requirements for becoming vc?
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 10:22pm On Mar 04, 2021
adonnii:
But ASUU said one of the shortlisted candidates, Mr Odusanya, a
professor at the Lagos State University College of Medicine
(LASUCOM), Ikeja was unqualified.
Yeah! If LASU go ahead to appoint the one without PhD, it might cause problem
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by capitalzero: 10:28pm On Mar 04, 2021
Jman06:
Professional qualifications are different from academic qualifications!

In Nigeria, we like to turn things upside down!
We borrowed western education from the west but we always try to pretend like though we are wiser than the west from whom we borrowed these things.

In the west, you have no business in the academic environment without a PhD!

You are not properly informed. In medicine, you don't need phd to become to lecture and become professor. That is practice in uk, us and other western nations. In uk, there are alot of professors of medicine without phd.it is neither compulsory nor necessary to have phd before becoming professors. Most phd holders in nigeria are half -baked. Quality of research especially in science-based disciplines is very poor.

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by McLizbae: 10:33pm On Mar 04, 2021
I've only found out now that not all professors are PhD holder. Interesting!
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by iamclime(m): 10:34pm On Mar 04, 2021
I laugh at some of the comments here, and I cringe at others. Only a few really know what they are talking about!
Whatever the case, we pray for peace in LASU. Many people don't know the stakes in this issue, and the powers at play. Things are not always the way they seem. We hope for the best. I say no more.
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Cmanforall: 10:37pm On Mar 04, 2021
Gordieshegz:


Actually, same can be said about PhD too..
About 3 to 5 years depending on having a master's already or not.
you getting done in time depends on you..


About the topic, what we have here is a clear case of flexing of political muscles. The structure of a fellowship is not in anyway of lower standard to PhD.

I expect MDCN to incorporate PhD into their Fellowship curricula soon.

This last sentence is very thoughtful.
The solution to all these may lie there.

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Lamasta(m): 10:52pm On Mar 04, 2021
edoairways:

Yeah! If LASU go ahead to appoint the one without PhD, it might cause problem
Did you study the vacancy of this position of VC from LASU If yes you will not type this....
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by capitalzero: 11:01pm On Mar 04, 2021
Lamasta:


For LASU

The criteria to be met by candidates for the post of Vice Chancellor, Lagos State University are that each candidate:

Should be a distinguished scholar of the rank of a full Professor of at least five (5) years standing with several years of teaching and research in a University;

Must possess a Ph.D. degree / Fellowship of world renowned medical college(s);

He/she must be an international renowned scholar with clear catalogue of extensive publications in international journals prior to and after attaining the rank of Professor;

Must be grounded in the finest academic tradition;

Must be a scholar with international appeal having made significant impact in areas such as international supervision and examination of Ph.D/Fellowship, conference presentations etc;

Must demonstrate relentless scholarship impact within and outside the country in terms of continuous production of books, papers, students supervised (especially Ph.D/Fellowship), exchanges, collaborations after his/her attainment of the rank of Professor;

Must have a proven track record of attracting research grants with grant number clearly stated or other evidence to confirm same;

Must not be more than 65 years old as at the date of possible assumption of duty;

Must command high intellectual respect of his/her colleagues;

Must be information and communication technology compliant [candidates would be subjected to practical assessment in line with global best practice];

Must have a proven track record of university administration, management and governance, as well as proven evidence of leadership qualities,

Must be a visionary leader capable of moving the University into prominence in the 21st century;
Must possess the ability to sustain harmony between Council, other organs of the University Administration, Staff and Students on one hand and between the University and the host communies on the other hand

Must demonstrate capacity and requisite skills to lead and inspire Principal Officers, Senior Management and Staff at all levels to realize the core objectives and mandates of the University;

Must be a very resourceful personality with initiative, vision and drive for sustaining the accelerated pace of development of the University

Must enjoy excellent physical and mental health, with verifiable certificates to that effect;
Must be morally upright and of impeccable rectitude;

Must have national and international exposure beyond academics and must be a distinguished world-class personality

Must be a go-getter and must see fund-raising as a major strategy for sustaining the autonomy of the University;

Must be a strategic thinker with passion for digital application and innovation in higher education.

As long as those shortlisted in lasu have either of fellowship or phd, they are qualified to become vc.
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Lamasta(m): 11:02pm On Mar 04, 2021
capitalzero:


As long as those shortlisted in lasu have either of fellowship or phd, they are qualified to become vc.
Yes bro am with you on this
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 11:03pm On Mar 04, 2021
Lamasta:
Did you study the vacancy of this position of VC from LASU If yes you will not type this....
LASU published a vacancy position for the post of a Vice Chancellor. One of the criteria is having a PhD or
/Fellowship. The former applicant who emerged had
/Fellowship not PhD. He was disqualified on that ground of possessing such qualification. It would be unfair for LASU to appoint another using the same criteria that disqualified the other lecturer
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 11:05pm On Mar 04, 2021
McLizbae:
I've only found out now that not all professors are PhD holder. Interesting!
Here including your vice president

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Lamasta(m): 11:05pm On Mar 04, 2021
edoairways:

LASU published a vacancy position for the post of a Vice Chancellor. One of the criteria is having a PhD or
/Fellowship. The former applicant who emerged had
/Fellowship not PhD. He was disqualified on that ground of possessing such qualification. It would be unfair for LASU to appoint another using the same criteria that disqualified the other lecturer
But the vacancy read PhD/fellowship so how is he not qualified?
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by edoairways: 11:08pm On Mar 04, 2021
Lamasta:

But the vacancy read PhD/fellowship so how is he not qualified?
ASUU said one of the shortlisted candidates, Mr Odusanya, a professor at the Lagos State University College of Medicine (LASUCOM), Ikeja was unqualified.They argued that the candidate’s qualification was the Fellowship of the Nigerian Postgraduate Medical College (hereafter referred to as the Fellowship) and not a PhD, which they said makes him unqualified for the job. So why disqualified this man based on this and then intend appointing another based on the same criteria

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by McLizbae: 11:21pm On Mar 04, 2021
edoairways:

Here including your vice president

shocked shocked shocked
Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Gr8amechi: 11:39pm On Mar 04, 2021
legacystore:


The problem is that VC confers PhD degree and it's improper to confer a degree u don't have on graduates.

Professors of medicine should stay off VC position since almost all don't have PhD
Who confers the MBBS certificate??

This also means VC from faculty of education can't sign MBBS certificate, some of you are really problem of this nation.

Medicine everywhere in the world does residency and just recently they started doing PhD and PhD doesn't replace residency or rates above it.

Residency training all over the world is recognised means of growth along research in the field you choose to narrow down.

Let's have an open mind and find out about department not just start a fight when none exist

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Re: LASU Shortlists Candidates Without PhD For VC Position by Gr8amechi: 11:43pm On Mar 04, 2021
Jman06:
Professional qualifications are different from academic qualifications!

In Nigeria, we like to turn things upside down!
We borrowed western education from the west but we always try to pretend like though we are wiser than the west from whom we borrowed these things.

In the west, you have no business in the academic environment without a PhD!

See this has never been a problem all along.
Any part of the world, teaching medicine isn't same as other fields.

Medicine is a continuous act and you need someone with hands on experience to impact the knowledge.

The question should be what do they do in PhD that they don't do in residency??

Also how is it done in other developed world's have you ever heard someone being called PhD surgery?? Or PhD pediatrics??

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