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Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 4:20pm On Apr 12, 2011
Before the recent acquisition of the fourth jet and the commencement of 4th service early this year, did you know that Bishop Oyedepo of the Winners Chapel is a man whose vision many can't seem to fathom, nevertheless he is one with a mission which i don't think is for personal pleasures. Kindly read the excerpt of some his achievements below:

Winners' Chapel (also known as Living Faith Church) is a megachurch founded by Bishop David Oyedepo in 1981.
On May 1 and 2 !981, in a long drawn out 18 hour vision in a certain 'International Hotel' in Ilesa, Old Oyo State, Brother David Oyedepo, a native of Omu-Aran in Kwara State,Nigeria received a mandate that "The hour has come to liberate the world from all oppression and wickedness of satan through the preaching of the word of faith; and I am sending you to undertake this task". Immediately after this, he sent the message to all his friends and the 'Powerhouse', a group of about 70 members, praying and fellowshipping under the aegis of 'Faith Liberation Hour', a weekly programme was established. The church had its first and commissioning service in Ilorin, Kwara State, Northern Nigeria on September 17, 1983 and Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye of the Redeemed Christian Church of God commissioned the ministry. At inception, there came an instruction to move to 'Damascus' which was understood to be Kaduna. The Kaduna branch consisted of four members and is now known as the "Garden of Faith". During a Powerhouse meeting in April 1982, Brother David Oyedepo listed seven areas where God had spoken to him concerning the future of the ministry. He stated that "at the base of the commission will be a tent which will sit 50,000 people". He stated that very soon there will be millions gathering at the base to listen to the gospel. He added that he saw them flying with the gospel on wings which showed that soon the ministry will have her own aircraft. He added that the whole world will soon be able to hear the message of the commission from the base. At that time, the internet as we know it today was not in view. At the inception of the ministry, David Oyedepo got instruction to commit the spoken word into writing with the same measure of proof. This led to the establishment of the Dominion Publishing House which won the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) Gold Award in 1996 and has produced over 7 million books till date.

In 1987 while in the United States he got an instruction from God to "Get back home and make my people rich". This served as a major thrust for the prosperity message of the commission. He was ordained as a "Bishop" by the late Archbishop Benson Idahosa of the Church of God Mission in 1988. During the church's Easter Faith convention in April 1987, Pastor David Oyedepo announced that the church was to begin to spread out and on 27 May,1987, exactly a month later, the first five branches of the church were established in 5 Nigerian towns namely Mubi, Azare, Biu, Maiduguri and Bauchi. In 1989, Bishop Oyedepo received a vision from God to "Get down to Lagos and raise me a people". This set the stage for the Lagos branch to start up in September 1989 with the name "Winners Chapel". The first service in Lagos had about 300 people in attendance. By December 1993, the Lagos church had 3,000 worshippers and by December 1994 it had increased to 10,000 members. In 1996, Archbishop Benson Idahosa was invited to dedicate the church's Iyana Ipaja facility located at Raji Oba street. This consisted of a 3,000 seater auditorium with overflow facilities for 30,000 as well as an eight (cool floor tower which was the World Mission Agency headquarters. This $50 million (N7.5 Billion) facility was already largely inadequate in less than 2 years of its existence. The church membership increased to 75,000 in single services by the middle of 1999. The name "Winners Chapel" soon became the popular name of the church even more so than the original name "The Living Faith World Outreach Centre" (LFWOC). Kaduna worshippers however still love to go by the name " Garden of Faith". The Garden of Faith is the national headquarters of the church. In 1993, the Vice-President of the Living Faith Church and then senior Pastor of the Maiduguri church, Pastor David Abioye was ordained "Bishop". Bishop Abioye is an exemplary leader and an epitome of faithfulness in the Living Faith church and christendom as a whole. Driving back to Kaduna from Zaria after a meeting on May 4 1994, Bishop Oyedepo heard a call from God that "The harvest of Africa was over-ripe and that he should rush in and preserve it from decadence". On May 8, 1994,the mandate was dedicated with a giant map of Africa and on January 15, 1995, the first missionaries left the shores of Nigeria. As at September 2010, Winners Chapel has branches in at least 63 cities in 48 African countries. The mandate to Africa is known as the African Gospel Invasion Program (AGIP). The foreign mandate is an arm of the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the ministry. In 2000, the prompting came to reach out beyond Africa and this mandate is now known as the "Mission to the World" (MTW). As at September 2010,there are at least 10 branches of Winners Chapel in the USA in cities like Houston, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, Minnesota and Massachusetts. There are also branches in the UK, UAE, Belgium, The Caribbean, Canada, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan among others all over the world; in Nigeria alone, there are about 3,000 local branches and about 24,000 satellite fellowships in the Lagos area. The Commission has 12 Pillars known as The Pillars of Faith. The Pillars are The Word, Faith, The Supernatural, The Holy Spirit, Prosperity, Prayer, Healing, Wisdom, Success, Vision, Consecration and Praise. The church teaches the importance of faith and that both divine healing and material prosperity are benefits of submission to God's will. It belongs to the Renewal.[1]
The international headquarters of Winners Chapel is called Faith-Tabernacle. It covers about 70 acres (280,000 m2) and is built inside an over 10,500-acre (42 km2) church complex called Canaanland, the international headquarters of the ministry in Ota, a suburb of Lagos. The building took 12 months to be completed. The foundation laying took place on August 29, 1998 and the announcement of the time frame of one year for the building project was announced on September 13, 1998 by Bishop Oyedepo at the Iyana Ipaja church while work began on September 18, 1998. The dedication of the building took place on September 19, 1999 with 97,800 people in attendance. Faith Tabernacle is presently the largest church building in the world, with a sitting capacity of 50,400 people and an outside overflow capacity of over 250,000, with three services every Sunday. Construction completed in Canaanland till date is estimated to be not less than $600 million(N90 Billion) with an additional Canaan City estate currently in construction which will be the largest housing estate in Africa and easily one of the largest in the world with 15,000 housing units and at a cost of N250 Billion or $1.6 Billion. This is part of a Grander scheme of 150,000 houses to be built by the church. Faith Tabernacle is the fulfilment of the vision delivered in April 1982. Over 300,000 people have been counted at single meetings at Canaanland. Cannanland was procured in 1998 and was initially 560 acres (2.3 km2). Presently it is over 10,500 acres (42 km2) and will take about 120 km to navigate around it. As an educationist, Bishop David Oyedepo's mission currently pioneers the establishment of educational institutions at all levels in and outside Nigeria, including the recently established "HEBRON" or Covenant University with over 7,000 students as well as Faith Academy with 1,500 students both located in Canaanland. Covenant university was well documented in a Nigerian Television Authority (NTA) documentary on the Nigerian 50th independence anniversary because of landmark achievements in its few years of existence. Covenant University was adjudged the best private university in Nigeria in 2005 and one of the goals of the institution is to be among the best in the world by or before 2020. According to Bishop Oyedepo, "Covenant University is not just an institution, it is a revolution in education". Faith Academy on the other hand placed fourth of all secondary schools in Nigeria during the 2010 Senior secondary Certificate Examination (SSCE). The second university of the church known as Landmark University in Omu Aran, Kwara State was approved by the Nigerian Government in March 2011 and immediately resumed academic activities the same month with about 1000 students. Construction at Landmark university is estimated to be in the realm of at least $50 million (N7 billion) so far while Bishop Oyedepo insists that 'spending continues'. Landmark University (LU) has the mandate of spearheading an aggrarian revolution in Nigeria. Bishop David Oyedepo stated in August 2010 that it takes a ride of more than 100 km to go around the walls of Landmark University. Landmark University consists presently of 1,400 acres. There are strong plans for about 5 more universities to be constructed across Africa including Abuja and Calabar in Nigeria, Ghana, Democratic republic of Congo and Kenya as announced by Bishop Oyedepo during Shiloh 2007. 1,000 acres have already been acquired for the university in Ghana while 300 hectares (about 750 acres)have been acquired for the Congo university and this is going to be a French speaking university. Recently, President Yahya Jammeh of The Gambia appealed to the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the Living Faith Church to build a university in The Gambia. Some other projects that were announced during the initial foundation laying in Canaanland in 1999 include a towering administrative headquarters and 500 bed hospital among many other projects.
Winners' Chapel also runs a chain of about 12 Secondary schools and over 50 Primary and nursery schools in Nigeria. The secondary schools are known as Faith Academies except those located in within the universities known as Covenant University and Landmark University Secondary Schools respectively. The Nursery and Primary Schools are known as Kingdom heritage Model Schools (KHMS). Some of the secondary schools are located in Badagry, Iyana Ipaja, Ibadan, Asaba, Kaduna, Ilorin and Osogbo. The mission is presently working on plans to build at least a secondary school each in every country in Africa. It also has its own Bible School, called Word of Faith Bible Institute (WOFBI); this is the biggest such group in Nigeria with branches in over 30 countries worldwide including the United States of America, the United Kingdom and the United Arab Emirates. As at 2004, WOFBI had trained over 100,000 people all over Africa. WOFBI has 15 campuses in the Lagos Area alone. [b]Other assets of the Church are three aircraft including a Challenger 604 with call sign "N664D" which is listed in the Forbes 500. The Church aircraft fleet is known as the Dominion Airlines which is used strictly for missionary work and the church has also procured an aircraft Hangar at the Murtala Muhammed International Airport, Lagos. Construction is presently going on at the Hangar costing about $2.5 million (N350 million). The church has a fleet of over 400 buses that convey worshippers to and from Faith-Tabernacle, Canaanland. In August 2010, the church procured another fleet of 100 brand new buses. The second aircraft is parked at the Nnamdi Azikiwe Airport, Abuja for use by the vice president, Bishop David Abioye. [/b]The Church also owns Dominion Publishing House, which turns out books and other materials written by David and Faith Oyedepo and David Abioye. Bishop Oyedepo has written over 70 books apart from many also written by Bishop Abioye and Pastor (Mrs) Faith Oyedepo. An arm of the Ministry, World Mission Agency (WMA) provides welfare and other health and humanitarian services to the needy in the society. [b]An annual amount of N100,000,000 (One hundred million naira)or $700,000 (Seven hundred thousand dollars) is administered in scholarships for education up to first degree level to church members through the David Oyedepo Scholarship Scheme and channelled through the Satellite Fellowships where membership is validated. Automatic scholarship is also available to all children members of primary school age. After the bomb blast that rocked the Ikeja Cantonment at the turn of the last decade, the Red Cross announced that the consignment from the Winners Chapel was the largest by a single organization since the Nigerian Civil War. Also, the WMA has moved aggressively into Koma hills in Northern Nigeria where it sunk 47 boreholes in 1997 and built nursery, primary and secondary schools. The Church also provided relief to Liberian citizens during the Liberian Civil War. The Winners Chapel is currently undertaking the construction of "Goshen" which is a camp like Canaanland in Abuja and is along kilometre 26, Abuja-Keffi Road. It has an ultra-modern auditorium which accommodates over 15,000 and a secondary school, Faith Academy, a Youth Centre as well as Kingdom Heritage Model School (nursery and primary) which were all dedicated on Oct 2nd 2010. The auditorium is a replica of the Faith Tabernacle. Goshen is complete with a dual-carriage way running through the 740 acre facility with street lightning as well as a housing estate with over 45 housing units among others and all these were constructed in only 15 months. [/b]There are plans for a university to be built in Goshen. Goshen is now the Mission Headquarters of the Living faith Church. All over Nigeria and Africa, Winners Chapel have a lot of architectural masterpieces which emphasize utility. The use of pillars in her auditoriums are de-emphasized as this enables every worshipper to have visual access to the altar. Some of these masterpieces are Faith Tabernacle, Canaanland, Goshen, along km 26 Abuja-Keffi expressway, the old site of Winners Chapel in Durumi, Abuja, built in 6 months; Garden of Faith, Kaduna, Winners Chapel, Kano, Winners Chapel, Benue and Winners Chapel,Nairobi (Wonderland), Kenya to mention a few. Winners Chapel, Nairobi is the largest church auditorium in East and Central Africa and the auditorium sits 15,000.
Every December, Winners' Chapel holds its annual Prophetic gathering, called Shiloh. The annual Shiloh event and normal church services at the Faith Tabernacle can be viewed online real time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winners'_Chapel
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 4:49pm On Apr 12, 2011
Its easier to criticize a man of God, or even just about anybody without knowing what the person's true motives are. Many do not know the man gives scholarships worth N100m every year; they do not know the church provides for its poor members or those in need through its satellite fellowships; they do not know how BIG the ministry is, such that using a public airline wouldn't be effective. Truth is, very few are called to have missions as much as his. How many would have derailed just at the slight success they would encounter on their way? So many. It takes a tireless, committed visioneer to keep at it despite the success. How many successful men of his level would still be working 16hours daily? Few, i think.

Even John D. Rockefeller (not a pastor, but an entrepreneur), the richest man of his time, was a tither, from an early age. Four generations after, his family is being recognised as America's most successful family. And one of his favorite quotes is "If your only goal is to become rich, you will never achieve it." He ended up giving out most of his wealth, and this goes on even till today through the Rockefeller Foundation and many others.

It's more than just the desire for success or wealth; it is a vision, a mission, to make the world a better place.

Washington Irving said, "Great minds have purpose, others have wishes".
The purpose of life is a life of purpose!

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by JeSoul(f): 5:04pm On Apr 12, 2011
Just out of curiosity . . .

Sleekymag, can you give examples of what geographic locations in the world Oyedepo (and others who'll use the planes) travel to for missionary work?

Thanks.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 5:16pm On Apr 12, 2011
JeSoul:

Just out of curiosity . . .

Sleekymag, can you give examples of what geographic locations in the world Oyedepo (and others who'll use the planes) travel to for missionary work?

Thanks.

For starters, the man didn't just feel like owning aircrafts, he saw it in a vision many years earlier. The needs of having an aircraft became more apparent as his ministry grew. Asides him, other members of the leadership also use the aircrafts for ministry purposes. However, i don not know why they had to buy a fourth one, but i know there must have been a reason.

As at September 2010, Winners Chapel has branches in at least 63 cities in 48 African countries. The mandate to Africa is known as the African Gospel Invasion Program (AGIP). The foreign mandate is an arm of the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the ministry. In 2000, the prompting came to reach out beyond Africa and this mandate is now known as the "Mission to the World" (MTW). As at September 2010,there are at least 10 branches of Winners Chapel in the USA in cities like Houston, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, Minnesota and Massachusetts. There are also branches in the UK, UAE, Belgium, The Caribbean, Canada, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan among others all over the world; in Nigeria alone, there are about 3,000 local branches and about 24,000 satellite fellowships in the Lagos area.

Every week or every other week, this man travels. In 2009 i think, he virtually went to almost all the countries in Africa where his ministry was.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Delafruita(m): 5:22pm On Apr 12, 2011
Quite an impressive resume for a church.i like the part where it says #100,000,000 is set aside annually as scholarship for church members.i have an idea that might interest you,let's assume me and you are the head of your church,we have established schools for which we charge exorbitant amounts for,then we say lets give out scholarship to our church members to the same schools which we have built,does that cost us anything?of course not.it makes us look good but costs us nothing.then we calculate how much those whom we gave scholarship would have paid if they had been outsiders and bam-we get a big figure which people can clap about.the only thing it would cost us is the money we would have gained and even this violates the ultra vires principle.we dont need to fork out the money,we only need to make use of our already existing facilities to accomodate a few more kids which by the way is a bucket in the ocean of others who need ou help but we can't help them because we have to build architectural masterpieces,buy jets and build more schools that will give us more money to buy even more jets.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 5:31pm On Apr 12, 2011
@Delafruita

There are many private universities in Nigeria whose fees dwarf what Covenant University charges. Take for example this new university called Baze University, Abuja with only 3 colleges, charging N1.5m per session, excluding accommodation and Covenant which charges about N300,000 per session. Don't forget that CU is one of the best private universities if not the best from this part of Africa, and with the 24 hours electricity, internet access, quality of staff and their top-notch salary scales, it is good value for money. Besides, many middle class parents and even those who struggle to give their children good education, have their children there.

Besides the scholarship are not just for those members who attend CU but every other university in Nigeria. I benefitted once or twice way back in 1999 or 2000 when i was in the university, and that was before CU was even established.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Delafruita(m): 5:47pm On Apr 12, 2011
You are not even sure how many times you benefitted and i'm supposed to believe you actually did?besides the point is not in how many people get the scholarship,the point is the church now employs charity as CSR whereas that should be its major focus.for exampl a certain church has a programme it tags widow's nite once in a friggin year whereas iy spends a whole lot of money on other less imortant things.so the widows need food only once a year right?the point you fail to notice is that the acquisition of a fourth jet is absolutely unnecessary and that money could have been used to directly impact the members of the church who are in need.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 6:01pm On Apr 12, 2011
Delafruita:

You are not even sure how many times you benefitted and i'm supposed to believe you actually did?besides the point is not in how many people get the scholarship,the point is the church now employs charity as CSR whereas that should be its major focus.for exampl a certain church has a programme it tags widow's nite once in a friggin year whereas iy spends a whole lot of money on other less imortant things.so the widows need food only once a year right?the point you fail to notice is that the acquisition of a fourth jet is absolutely unnecessary and that money could have been used to directly impact the members of the church who are in need.

I said i think, cos i know i benefitted once (N15, 000, the amount has been upped time and again since then), and then i tried to, the following year, i applied but didn't go for it (sometimes you forget somethings, its over 10 years now, haba). I actually declined to go for the second one (i remember well now) cos i didn't need it cos my finances were ok by then.

Anyways, who makes you a judge, why do you have to decide whether what they do is CSR or their main mission work? Are you the visioneer? I think you should slow down, appreciate good things, and strive to do your own best to help humanity in your own little way.

BTW, though am still a member (i go occasionally), i've not been regular cos am now a full member of Daystar, that's why i said i don't know why they decided to buy a fourth one; who knows, maybe they will sell one off, or give it out, or whatever. Am no judge, and i dont think you should be, particularly when you may not have the insider info. wink

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Delafruita(m): 6:18pm On Apr 12, 2011
Daystar hmm.i kinda like rev sam.i alsoremember bishop oyedepo is his "father in the lord".if i may ask why did youwithdraw your full membership of winners chapel?as o your comment on the "visioner" deciding which direction the church goes,thats weird.i thought he was supposed to follow the directions of God and not lean on his own understanding

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by JeSoul(f): 7:11pm On Apr 12, 2011
Sleekymag thanks for the response brother.

As a side question, what do you think about modern pastors living lavish lifestyles? as representatives of God and examples to their flock, 1 do you think for these men to live in opulence is out of step & inconsistent with the examples Jesus and His disciples set? If not, can you please say why? 2 furthermore, do you say there is a possibility for church funds/finances to be misused?

thanks again.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by PsalmmieF(m): 7:22pm On Apr 12, 2011
@sleekmag well Done Jare!! u r doin a gud job!!!!

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Joagbaje(m): 3:52am On Apr 13, 2011
@sleekmag
People Criticise what they don't know. Thank you for shedding light.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by EarsWide(m): 8:22am On Apr 13, 2011
@Joagbaje

can you please show us the proof you raised someone from the dead like you claimed ?

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by wetu: 12:11pm On Apr 13, 2011
Well done Oyedepo but let's just be careful about the BIG numbers:

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 3:15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and unclothed: Rev 3:18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Rev 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by oderemo(m): 1:46pm On Apr 13, 2011
Don't forget that CU is one of the best private universities if not the best from this part of Africa, and with the 24 hours electricity, internet access, quality

dont come on line with that, last time i checked C.U was no. 24 out of the list of 78 best universities in nigeria and not africa. even so that ranking does not estimate to your assertion sa the best in FROM THIS PART OF AFRICA.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 3:47pm On Apr 13, 2011
ode remo:


dont come on line with that, last time i checked C.U was no. 24 out of the list of 78 best universities in nigeria and not africa. even so that ranking does not estimate to your assertion sa the best in FROM THIS PART OF AFRICA.


don't be too hasty to jump to assertions without reading clearly what was posted. I said one of the best private universities if not the best from this part of Africa. Note that i didnt say it is one of the best universities if not the best.

That aside, i'm no alumni of the school.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 3:53pm On Apr 13, 2011
Joagbaje:

@sleekmag
People Criticise what they don't know. Thank you for shedding light.
PsalmmieF:

@sleekmag well Done Jare!! u r doin a gud job!!!!

Thanks guys! wink
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by toluxa1(m): 4:54pm On Apr 13, 2011
it's somewhat comical seeing him gloat about how blessed he is of God. Infact, 90% of his sermons are about himself and how we should use him as an example on how to prosper. Always recycling stories of how God has blessed him


No more Jesus, but the Bishop. Profiting from the people's ignorance, feed them stories of hope, never empower them wih knowledge: their mission statement. They preach 'Give' but practice 'take',

God help us,


the above are statements i agree on from another thread.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Azibalua(f): 5:50pm On Apr 13, 2011
@ poster,
Thanks really inspiring
@ wetu
These figures are small oh,I believe god can do much more than this
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 5:56pm On Apr 13, 2011
JeSoul:

Sleekymag thanks for the response brother.

As a side question, what do you think about modern pastors living lavish lifestyles? as representatives of God and examples to their flock, 1 do you think for these men to live in opulence is out of step & inconsistent with the examples Jesus and His disciples set? If not, can you please say why? 2 furthermore, do you say there is a possibility for church funds/finances to be misused?

thanks again.

Jesoul, I'm no judge when it comes to this, but then the definition of 'lavish lifestyle' as practiced by a modern pastor is subjective, and there are lots of variables to it. Perception is also something else. Someone may not even live a lifestyle that's lavish but then again he may be storing or cornering all church funds for something else, meanwhile the world would see him as a true man of God. So you see it depends on the particular situation.

Jesus said, judge not so that you won't be judged. If you had brought out a scripture these men violated then i guess we could start from there, meanwhile conjecture isn't good enough. For the possibility of misuse of church funds/finances, well i know its very possible for pastors to misuse church funds, and it happens with some churches, small or big (irrespective of size).
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag(m): 6:13pm On Apr 13, 2011
Delafruita:

Daystar hmm.i kinda like rev sam.i alsoremember bishop oyedepo is his "father in the lord".if i may ask why did youwithdraw your full membership of winners chapel?as o your comment on the "visioner" deciding which direction the church goes,thats weird.i thought he was supposed to follow the directions of God and not lean on his own understanding

And who says a visioneer wouldn't take directions from God? He takes directions based on his revelations per time, which may not be understood by someone afar off.

For Daystar, yea, i'm a full member now. After so many years with Living Faith, i needed some change. Daystar is a breath of fresh air. i still go to winners occasionally, and i try not to miss their vigil and other special progs. Rev. Sam is a role model, his humility is inspiring, his messages are lifting, and he emphasizes EXCELLENCE. Its an urban youth church, and its cool. Oyedepo is his mentor and he doesn't deny it in any way.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Nobody: 2:41am On Apr 14, 2011
It's amazing how these 'TRUE' christians react when names like the Bishop's are mentioned.It is amazing that no amount of reasoning seems to make sense.Even after this interesting compilation that should make the man look like a saint you read stuff like ''oh he's just giving his own money to himself'', ''oh he's giving but shame on him he's not giving enough''.This reminds me of the ''brood of vipers'' of back in the day,your lens are coloured and you see all things through these lens.So now it's not 'wow Jesus healed our brother'' instead its ''Jesus how dare you heal a man on the sabbath''.You even nitpick on 1999/2000,I mean its cute to satan,but its ugly in the kingdom.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by nuella2(f): 11:25am On Apr 14, 2011
^^^
How on earth are you telling someone he is not giving enough, is it your money?
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by wetu: 12:00pm On Apr 14, 2011

2Co 8:20 Avoiding this, that no man should blame us in this abundance which is administered by us:
2Co 8:21 Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Apr 23, 2011
@Nuella.E be like say you no know wetin dem dey use inverted comma do abi.If only you'd listened more in class.Those are deductions from others' posts not my opinion.My advice-read again and understand what I am saying.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by noetic16(m): 2:42am On Apr 24, 2011
@ OP

quite an impressive narrative. . , but Christ said that by their fruit we shall know them. Oyedepo is NOT of God. QED.
sleekymag:

Its easier to criticize a man of God, or even just about anybody without knowing what the person's true motives are. Many do not know the man gives scholarships worth N100m every year; they do not know the church provides for its poor members or those in need through its satellite fellowships; they do not know how BIG the ministry is, such that using a public airline wouldn't be effective. Truth is, very few are called to have missions as much as his. How many would have derailed just at the slight success they would encounter on their way? So many. It takes a tireless, committed visioneer to keep at it despite the success. How many successful men of his level would still be working 16hours daily? Few, i think.

100m scholarship to go to his own schools? what EXACTLY did Christ command peter to do?


Even John D. Rockefeller (not a pastor, but an entrepreneur), the richest man of his time, was a tither, from an early age. Four generations after, his family is being recognised as America's most successful family. And one of his favorite quotes is "If your only goal is to become rich, you will never achieve it." He ended up giving out most of his wealth, and this goes on even till today through the Rockefeller Foundation and many others.

It's more than just the desire for success or wealth; it is a vision, a mission, to make the world a better place.

Washington Irving said, "Great minds have purpose, others have wishes".
The purpose of life is a life of purpose!

just hide ur ignorance . . . . .u know NOTHING about the Rockerfellas.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by free123: 2:15pm On Apr 24, 2011
it's quite amazing how some pastors have left the message of salvation for prosperity message.
Later Gombs of cec will come and tell us how he graduated from elementary to tertiary gospel.
These are men working for their bellies, commercialising the word of God and

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Nobody: 3:21pm On Apr 29, 2011
Unto church things, how does pastor manage to run all these things and still manage to do the work of God. I need to meet this man one on one
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by newmi(m): 9:15am On May 01, 2011
@sleekymag
Great and inspiring record he is truely a great man
free123:

it's quite amazing how some pastors have left the message of salvation for prosperity message.
Later Gombs of cec will come and tell us how he graduated from elementary to tertiary gospel.
These are men working for their bellies, commercialising the word of God and
Ok oga what is the message of salvation that you feel has been neglected perhaps you missed the account of mission works in the thread to Africa and other parts of the world including China yes China but you even the closest hostile village you haven't ventured
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by newmi(m): 10:13am On May 01, 2011
blink182:

Unto church things, how does pastor manage to run all these things and still manage to do the work of God. I need to meet this man one on one
This the answer
Zechariah 4:6
6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This[ is] the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by EarsWide(m): 1:49pm On May 01, 2011
@Newmi

Oyede4planes is able to do all those things because he is NOT doing Gods work - he is enriching himself.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by ShalomRob: 1:08pm On Jun 02, 2011
@ ode reme, the last time some officials from the US went to NIgera to hold a meeting with UNiversities in nigeria,2 were selected because of worth and CU was amongst, it should be noted it has one of the best engineering faculties in Africa, Landmark University kick off this year.the second university which is 10 times better and bigger the covenant university, it is an ultra modern university with the latest technologies in the world

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