GeneralDae:

I don't understand, none of the scriptures you quoted forbids you from celebrating your own birthday. Why can't you celebrate your birthday in your own way, being merry in the way of Jehovah without sin.

Let's get these facts established.....

Genesis 40:20, king Pharaoh celebrated his birthday.
Bros , Exodus 8:1 does King Pharaoh worship Jehovah the God of Israel?

Matthew 14:6, King Herod is a Roman emperor. He celebrated his birthday.
Bros, Do the Romans worship Jehovah God?

Janosky:


Exodus 32:2-9,How come Satan wasn't able to sowed seed of idolatry in the life of Abel but succeeded in the life of Aaron and Israelites?

King Solomon was inspired but he practice idolatry, continue to WAIL about Mr Russell , sifia pains of a LIENUS

The light got brighter for the disciples , John 16:16-18 and Luke 24::25-27,45.

2 Corinthians 13:11
"Finally, brothers continue to rejoice, to be readjusted...."

"Finally brothers CONTINUE TO IMPROVE"
Jesus and Paul know say Jehovah's Servants no perfect.

The funny thing about this your buhahaha is that, you always prove that you have no sense.

No wonder you'll continue to be JaNosense.

Continue to be readjust:

Does that mean any Apostle celebrated birthday?
Does that mean any apostle worshipped another God apart from the true God?
Does that mean the Apostle worship Jesus or Celebrate Christmas?

Your answers will be no! Yet still to defend your pagan founder, this must be so.

And the funny thing is, the verses you cited speak about INDIVIDUALS but yet RUSSELL couldn't readjusted till he died as pagan.

Shameless lying liar like your father the Devil

MaxInDHouse:
Emusan go and rest!

Who asked you?

Janosky:

I don't follow Mr Russell, cry me a river, Mr LIENUS

JaNosense didn't follow Russell but can die because of Russell...wonder shall never end.

Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself, is resurrection for only righteous ones to live forever on earth?
Acts 24:15, Revelation 20:4-6 ?

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like your father the Devil

Is Russell part of the anointed one?
Did Russell partake in emblem?
Was RUSSELL the wise and faithful servant?

The lying liar will like his father the Devil will twist his lying mouth now.

Janosky:

Let's get these facts established.....

Genesis 40:20, king Pharaoh celebrated his birthday.
Bros , Exodus 8:1 does King Pharaoh worship Jehovah the God of Israel?

Matthew 14:6, King Herod is a Roman emperor. He celebrated his birthday.
Bros, Do the Romans worship Jehovah God?

So because Pharaoh celebrated his birthday, then you can't celebrate your birthday? Still none of these scriptures tell you directly not to celebrate your birthdays in your holy way.

Even though you have failed to show me a scripture that forbids birthday celebration, I'll still say not everything from the pagans are excluded by God. Pagans from time immemorial who never worshipped Jehovah God also built great civilisations and had some wonderful philosophies like Taoism from Confucius in China, and even some of the African Ancestors had some great moral cultures as well which the God who created them may have also inspired.

Pagans invented sports and Olympics as we know it today. It was practiced in the Roman Empire that even Paul used it as an example of how Christians should run the race. Pagans invented writing not the Israelites. Pagans did a lot of things that the children of Isreal had to eventually adopt.

God of the Israelites only prevented terrible customs of the pagans like human sacrifices, sexual sins, and the likes not birthday celebration.

To

Emusan:


[s]The funny thing about this your buhahaha is that, you always prove that you have no sense.

No wonder you'll continue to be JaNosense.

Continue to be readjust:
[/s]
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Does that mean any Apostle celebrated birthday?
Does that mean any apostle worshipped another God apart from the true God?
Does that mean the Apostle worship Jesus or Celebrate Christmas?

Your answers will be no! Yet still to defend your pagan founder, this must be so.

And the funny thing is, the verses you cited speak about INDIVIDUALS but yet RUSSELL couldn't readjusted till he died as pagan.

[s]Shameless lying liar like your father the Devil[/s]

Mr LIENUS you DUBIOUSLY twist my posts to input your own FALSE claims
JWs have made you aware that birthday celebrations is pagan practice , have you stopped that pagan practice?
You are doing a pagan practice while you are shouting Mr Russell's name upandan, Bros you are a deluded hypocrite.

2 Corinthians 13:11, Luke 24:25-27,45 Jehovah's servants readjusted their ways & beliefs
Has Mr LIENUS readjusted himself?
The lies of LIENUS on this forum is luminous

Emusan:


If only you remember to pick your brain from Hall, you won't be so confused like this.

Jesus sowed fine seed but Satan your father OVERSOWED the soil with seeds but your claimed was that Abel, Abraham e.t.c didn't celebrate birthday!

So how come your father Satan wasn't able to sow seed of this idolatry in the life of Abel, Abraham e.t.c but only succeed in the life of Russell the idol worshipper?

Exodus 32:2-9, how come your father,Satan sowed idolatry in the life of Aaron & Israelites?

Emusan:


If Jesus is that "SAME TEACHER" it means He has taught before, which means the LIGHT ISN'T GETTING BRIGHTER

[s]Why do you like following the foot step of your father the Devil?
[/s]

Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself, @ John 16:16-18, Luke24:25-27,45, 2 Corinthian13:11, did the light get brighter for Jehovah's Servants taught by Jesus Christ?
Continue LYING,Mr LIENUS

Emusan:

The quotes of Russell claiming inspiration for ALL IS WORKS are everywhere including your demonic achieve, yet you can open your lying mouth to say he didn't.

king Solomon had inspiration, did he practice idolatry?

GeneralDae:

So because Pharaoh celebrated his birthday, then you can't celebrate your birthday? Still none of these scriptures tell you directly not to celebrate your birthdays in your holy way.

Even though you have failed to show me a scripture that forbids birthday celebration, I'll still say not everything from the pagans are excluded by God. Pagans from time immemorial who never worshipped Jehovah God also built great civilisations and had some wonderful philosophies like Taoism from Confucius in China, and even some of the African Ancestors had some great moral cultures as well which the God who created them may have also inspired.

Pagans invented sports and Olympics as we know it today. It was practiced in the Roman Empire that even Paul used it as an example of how Christians should run the race. Pagans invented writing not the Israelites. Pagans did a lot of things that the children of Isreal had to eventually adopt.

God of the Israelites only prevented terrible customs of the pagans like human sacrifices, sexual sins, and the likes not birthday celebration.

Galatians 4:8-11
New International Version
Paul’s Concern for the Galatians
8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces[a]? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.


Footnotes
Galatians 4:9 Or principles.

Bros,is your birthday "special day, season and years"?
Who observe the "special days" ?
Those who know God?
I can see you don't like Galatians 4:8-11 and others presented to you from your Bible.
You can agree to disagree with your Bible.
Na your choice,Bros.

GeneralDae:

How is celebrating your own birthday and making merry in a holy way an offering to idols? How does it involve Masquerades?
You haven't given me a scripture that forbids you from celebrating your birthday.

Guy God's people have a heritage and jealously they stick to it, that's why you can never find a single worshiper of our own God having anything to do with BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION! Isaiah 54:17
But if you're looking for where our God specifically spoke against a celebration initiated by pagans, then you can't find it because in the heritage passed onto us there is nothing like birthday celebration! Jeremiah 31:33-34

MaxInDHouse:

Guy God's people have a heritage and jealously they stick to it, that's why you can never find a single worshiper of our own God having anything to do with BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION! Isaiah 54:17
But if you're looking for where our God specifically spoke against a celebration initiated by pagans, then you can't find it because in the heritage passed onto us there is nothing like birthday celebration! Jeremiah 31:33-34

In the heritage passed unto you, there is nothing like sports or Marathon race as well, would you therefore prevent your children from taking part in such?

As long as it will involves nation against nation and anthems like Nebuchadnezzar's arrangement will be recited you can never find any of our children (who are also worshipers of our God) there!

GeneralDae:

In the heritage passed unto you, there is nothing like sports or Marathon race as well, would you therefore prevent your children from taking part in such?

MaxInDHouse:
As long as it will involves nation against nation and anthems like Nebuchadnezzar's arrangement will be recited you can never find any of our children (who are also worshipers of our God) there!

Oh my God, so your children cannot take part in friendly competitions that unite the world? Even sports like marathon that was used by paul as an example is also sin to you? Oh come on man, relax. Almost everything we have today in our world were invented by Pagans in time past such as clock, writing, etc and even Jehovah's people have used them from time past. As long as the bible does not expressly forbid you, then it's nothing but the interpretation of the Jehovah Witnesses which I find astonishing.

Janosky:


Bros , is the topic of this thread about " how many Sundays did Jesus worship on "?

Bros , Genesis 40:20 and Matthew 14:6 is part of the reason why 2 Corinthian6:14,Galatians 4:8-11 , Ecclesiastes 7:1,Romans 15:4 & 2Tim3:16-17 dey your Bible

Please STOP DECEIVING yourself.

Celebrating your birthday for live given is different from one celebrating a day and time.

You are confused, did those bible verses say the sabbath day has be abolished or one should not appreciate God for been alive to see another day?

You and your Church are good at picking bibles verses out of context to suit your lies.

Do you remember a servant of God who participated in any national competition in Bible times?

GeneralDae:

Oh my God, so your children cannot take part in friendly competitions that unite the world? Even sports like marathon that was used by paul as an example is also sin to you? Oh come on man, relax. Almost everything we have today in our world were invented by Pagans in time past such as clock, writing, etc and even Jehovah's people have used them from time past. As long as the bible does not expressly forbid you, then it's nothing but the interpretation of the Jehovah Witnesses which I find astonishing.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you remember a servant of God who participated in any national competition in Bible times?

So you think the bible contains everything? Do you also require the bible to tell you whether to have pets, or what to do every second of your life? Scriptures weren't written for that purpose. Even Ecclesiastes says drink and make merry, just be wise and remember God always, that's all. There's nothing wrong in making merry, just do not make merry or celebrate like the world e.g Herod, Pharaoh, etc. The bible never said you shouldn't celebrate birthdays. If you give me such a verse, then I would agree it is not just the doctrine of your church but a commandment you read from the bible.

GeneralDae:

Oh my God, so your children cannot take part in friendly competitions that unite the world? Even sports like marathon that was used by paul as an example is also sin to you? Oh come on man, relax. Almost everything we have today in our world were invented by Pagans in time past such as clock, writing, etc and even Jehovah's people have used them from time past. As long as the bible does not expressly forbid you, then it's nothing but the interpretation of the Jehovah Witnesses which I find astonishing.

It is easy for them to jump on the the wisdom of the world(pagans) is foolishness to God. But you see them thanking God for giving them ZOOM app(developed by the world) during the lockdown to carry on with their religious activities. Shouldn't they be grateful to Satan and his pagans agents for providing something their God can bless during this period?

The day of death is better than the day of birth. Simple adjective of comparison between two things. When one out of the two is better what does that tell them of the other? According to them it equals BAD but we know the it can only be good....... better...... best and NOT bad......... better........ best.

achorladey:



It is easy for them to jump on the the wisdom of the world(pagans) is foolishness to God. But you see them thanking God for giving them ZOOM app(developed by the world) during the lockdown to carry on with their religious activities. Shouldn't they be grateful to Satan and his pagans agents for providing something their God can bless during this period?

The day of death is better than the day of birth. Simple adjective of comparison between two things. When one out of the two is better what does that tell them of the other? According to them it equals BAD but we know the it can only be good....... better...... best and NOT bad......... better........ best.

I find their reasoning astonishing as well, these type of interpretations are so wild.

GeneralDae:

I find their reasoning astonishing as well, these type of interpretations are so wild.

It is the interpretation of their religious leaders. No more no less and when members go against such interpretation there are consequences attached to it which are far reaching considering the set up of the religion.

achorladey:
It is the interpretation of their religious leaders. No more no less and when members go against such interpretation there are consequences attached to it which are far reaching considering the set up of the religion.

And as their religious leaders are fallible and their light getting brighter, celebration of birthday can find it's way back into their doctrines.

The question is, during the time of Russell, do you think Russell and his team didn't provide evidence for celebrating birthday to those who opposed it?

Emusan:


And as their religious leaders are fallible and their light getting brighter, celebration of birthday can find it's way back into their doctrines.

The question is, during the time of Russell, do you think Russell and his team didn't provide evidence for celebrating birthday to those who opposed it?

achorladey:



It is the interpretation of their religious leaders. No more no less and when members go against such interpretation there are consequences attached to it which are far reaching considering the set up of the religion.

GeneralDae:

I find their reasoning astonishing as well, these type of interpretations are so wild.

See them hypocrites wey know God,use your Bible, present one proof of a servant of Jehovah wey do him birthday or continue DECEIVING yourselves and WAILING on Nairaland.

Genesis 40:20 and Matthew 14:6 did you not see evidences that ONLY pagans did it ?

achorladey:



It is easy for them to jump on the the [b]wisdom of the world(pagans) is foolishness to God. But you see them thanking God for giving them ZOOM app(developed by the world) during the lockdown to carry on with their religious activities[/b]. Shouldn't they be grateful to Satan and his pagans agents for providing something their God can bless during this period?

The day of death is better than the day of birth. Simple adjective of comparison between two things. When one out of the two is better what does that tell them of the other? According to them it equals BAD but we know the it can only be good....... better...... best and NOT bad......... better........ best.

Achorladey sifia pains.
Bros, STOP WAILING and your hypocrisy, you no dey use technological devices?

Jesus Christ no use scrolls, how were the scrolls produced during his time?

The invention of Gutenberg Printing Press led to mass production of that Bible in your shelf.
Bros, go ahead and burn all the books in your house & bring the evidences here, throw all your electronic gadgets away,else you're just making empty noise.
Envy and jealousy. .

Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all.

Janosky:


See them hypocrites wey know God, present one proof of a servant of Jehovah wey do him birthday or continue DECEIVING yourselves and WAILING on Nairaland.

Genesis 40:20 and Matthew 14:6 did you not see evidences that ONLY pagans did it ?

I don't understand your arguement here, so if Pharoah and Herod both did terrible things on their birthday, did Jehovah in his scriptures deduce for you from those incidents that celebrating birthday is now altogether sinfull?

People can also do terrible things while celebrating the death of Jesus or any holy event. Some popes in the 14th century could have decided to burn witches alive on that same day, and if the bible was still being written then, it could have been recorded too. Would you then say celebrating the death of Jesus is a sin just because a Pope decided to celebrate it in his own cruel way?

GeneralDae:

So you think the bible contains everything? Do you also require the bible to tell you whether to have pets, or what to do every second of your life? Scriptures weren't written for that purpose. Even Ecclesiastes says drink and make merry, just be wise and remember God always, that's all. There's nothing wrong in making merry, just do not make merry or celebrate like the world e.g Herod, Pharaoh, etc. The bible never said you shouldn't celebrate birthdays. If you give me such a verse, then I would agree it is not just the doctrine of your church but a commandment you read from the bible.

Your Bible says only pagans celebrated birthdays, not servants of Jehovah God.
Romans 15:4, everything written in your Bible is for your instruction.
Genesis 40:20, Matthew 14:6 & Galatians 4:8-11 is for your instruction.

Bros,Do your parents have to spell out every rule to you in black and white?

Janosky:
See them hypocrites wey know God, present one proof of a servant of Jehovah wey do him birthday or continue DECEIVING yourselves and WAILING on Nairaland.

Genesis 40:20 and Matthew 14:6 did you not see evidences that ONLY pagans did it ?

@underlined.... That's why I presented RUSSELL and his team.

At least you can't deny that they are NOT servants of Jehovah!

Janosky:

Achorladey sifia pains.
Bros, STOP WAILING and your hypocrisy, you no dey use technological devices?

Jesus Christ no use scrolls, how were the scrolls produced during his time?

The invention of Gutenberg Printing Press led to mass production of that Bible in your shelf.
Bros, go ahead and burn all the books in your house & bring the evidences here, throw all your electronic gadgets away,else you're just making empty noise.
Envy and jealousy. .

Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

@color....The evidence is Russell and his team.

Or are Russell and his team not servants of Jehovah again?

GeneralDae:

I don't understand your arguement here, so if Pharoah and Herod both did terrible things on their birthday, did Jehovah in his scriptures deduce for you from those incidents that celebrating birthday is now altogether sinful?

People can also do terrible things while celebrating the death of Jesus or any holy event. Some popes in the 14th century could have decided to burn witches alive on that same day, and if the bible was still being written then, it could have been recorded too. Would you then say celebrating the death of Jesus is a sin just because a Pope decided to celebrate it in his own cruel way?

Pharaoh, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Herod, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Birthday is pagan practice.
Nobody,I repeat, nobody serving Jehovah God did so.
That is the point.

Both men did terrible things, that's a side issue to the main issue (pagan practice of birthdays celebrations).

Emusan:


@underlined.... That's why I presented RUSSELL and his team.

At least you can't deny that they are NOT servants of Jehovah!

Emusan:


@color....The evidence is Russell and his team.

Or are Russell and his team not servants of Jehovah again?

Is Russell above sin ?
Is Russell your role model?
Jesus Christ is NOT your role model,Shey ?

Janosky:


Is Russell above sin ?
Is Russell your role model?

See the hypocrisy we're talking about!

You challenge us to provide a single evidence of a SERVANT of Jehovah who celebrated birthday.

This was your own challenge Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

Now, you're hooked inbtw the line because you can't deny Russell NOT being a servant of Jehovah nor deny him celebrating birthday.

Now, there's evidence that not just A SERVANT but MANY SERVANTS of Jehovah celebrated birthday.


lying liar JWs like your father the Devil

Janosky:

Pharaoh, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Herod, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Birthday is pagan practice.
Nobody,I repeat, nobody serving Jehovah God did so.
That is the point.

Both men did terrible things, that's a side issue to the main issue (pagan practice of birthdays celebrations).

And the point is that not all pagan practices were rejected by the biblical scriptures.
Even paul used Marathon race of a pagan sports man as an example of how to fight the good fight, can you give me an example of a servant of Jehovah who ran Marathon race? Is Marathon race (something good for the health) a sin?
Pagans are also children of God and in time past, they invented almost everything then.

Emusan:


See the hypocrisy we're talking about!

You challenge us to provide a single evidence of a SERVANT of Jehovah who celebrated birthday.

This was your own challenge Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

Now, you're hooked inbtw the line because you can't deny Russell NOT being a servant of Jehovah nor deny him celebrating birthday.

Now, there's evidence that not just A SERVANT but MANY SERVANTS of Jehovah celebrated birthday.


[s]lying liar JWs like your father the Devil [/s]

Russell did a pagan practice, king Solomon did a pagan practice, are they your role models?

True, true, Mr LIENUS no get SENSE

Janosky:

Pharaoh, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Herod, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Birthday is pagan practice.
Nobody,I repeat, nobody serving Jehovah God did so.
That is the point.

Both men did terrible things, that's a side issue to the main issue (pagan practice of birthdays celebrations).

Lemme rewrite this for you because the list isn't complete!

Pharaoh, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Herod, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Russell, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Rutherford, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Knorr, a pagan celebrated his birthday.

Birthday is pagan practice.

Nobody, I repeat, nobody serving Jehovah God did so.
That is the point.

You just proof to us with this statement that

Russell, Rutherford, Knorr aren't SERVING the true God.

That's beautiful!

Janosky:

Russell did a pagan practice, king Solomon did a pagan practice, are they your role models?

True, true, Mr LIENUS no get SENSE

So Russell a SERVANT of Jehovah actually did a pagan practice but YOU CHALLENGED US to provide just A SERVANT who celebrated his birthday.

Between you and me who seem not to have sense?

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil!

The lying liar can't say RUSSELL isn't a servant of Jehovah!

GeneralDae:

And the point is that not all pagan practices were rejected by the biblical scriptures.
Even paul used Marathon race of a pagan sports man as an example of how to fight the good fight, can you give me an example of a servant of Jehovah who ran Marathon race? Is Marathon race (something good for the health) a sin?
Pagans are also children of God and in time past, they invented almost everything then.

Good point about marathon race.
1 Timothy 4:8
"Bodily training is beneficial for a little but godly devotion is beneficial for all things"...."

Bros, pls Use your Bible, show this forum where Paul extolled annual Birthday celebrations.