Magnoliaa:
If you can leave the country, leave and start a family in a better country.

[s]If you can't, you can still raise your kids here and they'll turn out well. You'll prolly only have to work harder at making money so you can afford some things and live in a better environment.[/s]

longetivity:
@OP where were you raised

Magnoliaa:
If you can leave the country, leave and start a family in a better country.

If you can't, you can still raise your kids here and they'll turn out well. You'll prolly only have to work harder at making money so you can afford some things and live in a good environment. For me, mindset is the first and others follow. Kids aren't *that* hard to raise provided you're a good model (yourself).

You can 'create' the reality you want your kids to grow up in, and counter whatever it is they get from out there. They can be influenced anywhere, but methinks you're concerns are valid. They should not just be irrational, 'cos what if you end up not being able to leave the country?

FreeSpirited:

Nigeria...But if I knew before hand that I was to be raised here, and I could influence the decision, then I wouldn't have agreed to be born here of course

SavageResponse:


Well it's too late to change where you were born so deal with it already and stop whining!

Sarcastic101:
A hard working person would make it any where
The richest man in Africa (Dangote) didn't look at all these factors
He just worked hard and he achieved success
(He wouldn't leave his business in Nigeria for any country)
Meanwhile a lazy person would not make it
Even if he travels to Luxembourg

Truth is that you can make it anywhere

I've seen people who traveled to Europe an they are suffering
More than us back here
They save all they earn to come back and show off at the end of the year

Also seen people who made it abroad to

So it's not EASY ANYWHERE
Train your children to be hard working and able to function wherever they find themselves

FreeSpirited:
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We all know Nigeria is bad and limiting but regardless, people are still making it, getting married and raising kids.
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Personally however, I see it as a big risk. A huge stress as this country is filled with uncertainties in terms of economy, security and politics.
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And when raising a kid, I believe the prevailing culture can influence the thinking and potential of the kid. And aside, exposing kids to this dirty and wicked system I feel it's dangerous, especially when you talk of traveling on our roads, our broken health care that can kill you anytime, poor public facilities, and poor avenue to explore talents.
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And sometimes I'm like what if I'm stuck here with my family, unable to take them to a better land of sanity and opportunity. Or if I travel over there and still meet obstacles preventing me from moving them easily.
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All of this and many more factors makes me envy and praise young guys who are marrying and still taking care of their family in their own way. Dem dey try.
The question is, is it really not that bad for young families and their plans to give their family the best in this country? Am I just delusional or too idealistic?
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It's affecting my decision or seriousness about marriage.

ibechris:




Pls,dont use Dangote to compare anyone or business in Nigeria. There is business and there is monopoly. That man is a monolpolist and has destroyed many youths in this country.
He does not allow foreign investment to come into the country for the fear of competition. Go and read the damning report that was drafted about him by the United state govt. U will know why no one should regard him as a role model in this country.

Sarcastic101:
A hard working person would make it any where
The richest man in Africa (Dangote) didn't look at all these factors
He just worked hard and he achieved success
(He wouldn't leave his business in Nigeria for any country)
Meanwhile a lazy person would not make it
Even if he travels to Luxembourg


So it's not EASY ANYWHERE
Train your children to be hard working and able to function wherever they find themselves

FreeSpirited:

All of this and many more factors makes me envy and praise young guys who are marrying and still taking care of their family in their own way. Dem dey try.
The question is, is it really not that bad for young families and their plans to give their family the best in this country? Am I just delusional or too idealistic?

FreeSpirited:

If we all have to pass all those conditions you lay on ground before we can raise kids how convenient, and plausible is that in our economy

Conditions?? What "conditions" did I lay? And what unrealistic conditions especially did I say? You won't put in any effort into raising kids or what? Abi you won't work to give them a good life? Is it the part of being a good role model or the part of creating a good environment?

Raise them any way you want then.

Ajibade123:
let me tell you something Nigeria is getting worst day by day crime is the new normal
even children in secondary school no longer take school serious
I was taking a WAEC tutorial class the other day... in the class more than half of the boys there were yahoo boys with latest IPhones...even the girls were just hanging on the boys and couldn't solve a simple jss2 equation
is that What you picture for your kids??

MRKRABS2:
You are an antinatalist (Google it). You're thoughts are valid.You have seen that life is suffering and it comes with inevitable pain whether it's POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT,HUNGER AND FAMINE, SICKNESS,DEATH, DEPRESSION and so many other problems so you don't want any of your potential kids to go through this hell.so I understand you don't want to have kids it's a valid point.You don't want to create another human to experience this life...

FreeSpirited:

Hmmmm. Is there solution to this kind of mindset? I do feel if our society were more sane just may be my view might be different

FreeSpirited:

Hmmmm. Is there solution to this kind of mindset? I do feel if our society were more sane just may be my view might be different. I'm not sure though

KillGod:


Unfortunately coming to this realization can be a bad thing as you can not unlearn what you already know and you will suffer a lot because there are not many people who understands you or what you're going through but it the truth and the truth hurts.

You already know the truth of our world which is a pointless rat race in my opinion.

Let the harm unknowingly done to you end with you.

A child born in Nigeria will go through a great deal of suffering and no one deserves this punishment don't do it to your own offsprings is what I use to tell people but they never listen so many children will continue to suffer pointlessly.



#dontbeasheep
#antinatalist
#Nigeriaishellinhell

Femzaremz:
bro i like this! We share the same state of mind!

KillGod:


You're a very rear breed of human being.


One of the best in my opinion

tensazangetsu20:

Bros not only him o. A lot of us share the same mindset. If I cant leave the African continent I am getting a vasectomy. No kids for me.