maximunimpact:


If you are a communist why not team up with like minds here in Nigeria and clandestinely alter the order of things. I am not a fan of capitalism and democracy but i can hardly imagine communism evolving again

Sorry buddy. I'm a huge believer in the free market system and democracy. That doesn't mean I can't be realistic to know that communism is making a come- back in the very bastion of capitalism and democracy.

Communism doesn't work.

lolu2019:
u r mad

How?
The original owners are gone. Who they are punishing are the new owners. What they should be fighting for is a new contract with all arrears paid. Not to be paid to then leave!

maximunimpact:


Communism is dead bud, move on

Says a bourgeois

CanadaOrBust:


Who do you call “Shoprite”? The original owners are gone. Who they are punishing are the current owners. What they should be fighting for is a new contract with all arrears paid. Not to be paid to then leave! U say others can take their place. We are talking EXPERIENCE!

A former employee can easily beat Shoprite in a particular niche the employee knows well. They don’t have to compete in all areas

they are punishing no one, the owner could seek legal backing to bring back the previous owner to come iron out gray and hiding area not mentioned in the document that was containing the terms and conditions of change of ownership.
I've seen a name change yet so every tendency the new owner bought a franchise which under the law still makes it a part of shoprite. soon he went into that contract he was buying into all liabilities and asset of the said organisation of the employees are both liability and asset as this case implies.
talking of saner clime you don't inherit employees then tell them to sign new contracts you inherited them as an integral part of your asset so you treat them right.
the best feasible fair deal here is pay them of then shuffle, reshuffle, organize and reorganize to get you desired structure not seeing human capital like mare tool you can use and discard at will.

maximunimpact:


If you are a communist why not team up with like minds here in Nigeria and clandestinely alter the order of things. I am not a fan of capitalism and democracy but i can hardly imagine communism evolving again

You're thinking of the old form of socialism. Gov't doesn't need to control the factors of production anymore.

SEGLIZ:

they are punishing no one, the owner could seek legal backing to bring back the previous owner to come iron out gray and hiding area not mentioned in the document that was containing the terms and conditions of change of ownership.
I've seen a name change yet so every tendency the new owner bought a franchise which under the law still makes it a part of shoprite. soon he went into that contract he was buying into all liabilities and asset of the said organisation of the employees are both liability and asset as this case implies.
talking of saner clime you don't inherit employees then tell them to sign new contracts you inherited them as an integral part of your asset so you treat them right.
the best feasible fair deal here is pay them of then shuffle, reshuffle, organize and reorganize to get you desired structure not seeing human capital like mare tool you can use and discard at will.

They bought the company not franchise. The new
owners are now Shoprite. The workers union should negotiate a new contract which favors them more than the old one, with all areas paid, and with no one laid off. Instead they are fighting to be paid severance to then leave as they wish!

Tayeni:
Sorry buddy. I'm a huge believer in the free market system and democracy. That doesn't mean I can't be realistic to know that communism is making a come- back in the very bastion of capitalism and democracy.

Communism doesn't work.

I understand where you stand which is far different from my ideology. Neither of our wish is not happening in our generation.

CanadaOrBust:


They bought the company not franchise. The new
owners are now Shoprite. The workers union should negotiate a new contract which favors them more than the old one, with all areas paid, and with no one laid off. Instead they are fighting to be paid severance to then leave as they wish!

does the new owner control the company's head office in south africa and branches in other African countries? I believe your answer would be placet which leaves the new owner under the franchise.
the new ownerd(s) might buy over every Nigerian shoprite asset by virtue of him not changing the name it remains a franchise. except he bought over every asset belonging to shoprite down to its head office. from the indications shoprite controls majority shares in their Nigeria asset and business, leaving means they are withdrawing their controlling shares left with minimal or no shares at all.
one thing is if the new owner control the Nigeria market only then he keeps paying for the use of that name which is still know as franchise.
for the workers the original owner should have paid them since he didn't the new owner has inherited them which he knew before doing. he either continue with them or pay them off. he reserve no right what so ever to negotiate a new contract with them while one is still running.

SEGLIZ:

does the new owner control the company's head office in south africa and branches in other African countries? I believe your answer would be placet which leaves the new owner under the franchise.
the new ownerd(s) might buy over every Nigerian shoprite asset by virtue of him not changing the name it remains a franchise. except he bought over every asset belonging to shoprite down to its head office. from the indications shoprite controls majority shares in their Nigeria asset and business, leaving means they are withdrawing their controlling shares left with minimal or no shares at all.
one thing is if the new owner control the Nigeria market only then he keeps paying for the use of that name which is still know as franchise.
for the workers the original owner should have paid them since he didn't the new owner has inherited them which he knew before doing. he either continue with them or pay them off. he reserve no right what so ever to negotiate a new contract with them while one is still running.

It is franchised unlike in other countries

There are less than 20 shoprite stores

Shoprite owns almost 2000 stores across Africa, 1600 being in South africa

Public investment corporatation owns large sum of shoprite,

SEGLIZ:

does the new owner control the company's head office in south africa and branches in other African countries? I believe your answer would be placet which leaves the new owner under the franchise.
the new ownerd(s) might buy over every Nigerian shoprite asset by virtue of him not changing the name it remains a franchise. except he bought over every asset belonging to shoprite down to its head office. from the indications shoprite controls majority shares in their Nigeria asset and business, leaving means they are withdrawing their controlling shares left with minimal or no shares at all.
one thing is if the new owner control the Nigeria market only then he keeps paying for the use of that name which is still know as franchise.
for the workers the original owner should have paid them since he didn't the new owner has inherited them which he knew before doing. he either continue with them or pay them off. he reserve no right what so ever to negotiate a new contract with them while one is still running.

The Shoprite in SA no longer has anything to do with Shoprite in Nigeria. Neither are they in any way tied to quality of their services. Find out what franchise means. There is also Shoprite in US which has nothing to do with SA Shoprite.
You have things confused: it is the employees that should be fighting for a new contract that guarantees their jobs and payment of any arrears.
Instead they are fighting for payment of severance, with the right to choose to then leave.

CanadaOrBust:


The Shoprite in SA no longer has anything to do with Shoprite in Nigeria. Neither are they in any way tied to quality of their services. Find out what franchise means. There is also Shoprite in US which has nothing to do with SA Shoprite.
You have things confused: it is the employees that should be fighting for a new contract that guarantees their jobs and payment of any arrears.
Instead they are fighting for payment of severance, with the right to choose to then leave.

The shop rite in US are two separate entities, no history between the two.

However even thou shoprite in Nigeria will now only license the name and Branding,

management, quality and services will be up to the licenseer

AfriqueDuZuid:


The shop rite in US are two separate entities, no history between the two.

However even thou shoprite in Nigeria will now only license the name and Branding,

management, quality and services will be up to the licenseer

Stop splitting hairs. Shoprite SA is completely out of Nigeria. Shoprite Nigeria is not their franchisee in any sense of the word.
Bottom line is, the workers should be fighting for a new contract which which guarantees all areas paid, and no one laid off. Instead they are fighting to be paid severance to then leave as they wish!

CanadaOrBust:


Stop splitting hairs. Shoprite SA is completely out of Nigeria. Shoprite Nigeria is not their franchisee in any sense of the word.
Bottom line is, the workers should be fighting for a new contract which which guarantees all areas paid, and no one laid off. Instead they are fighting to be paid severance to then leave as they wish!

Its license agreement to use the shoprite to use the name, branding and logo

The Nigerian owners has rights/license to use the name in Nigeria only.

Yes theetse should be fighting for new contracts

Royalty5:


Oops.... That's quite far from where I stay and I school at UCH.

I stay at moniya tho and work at ojoo...where do u stay...drop Ur WhatsApp number for me if u wish

CanadaOrBust:
The workers are being greedy. Shoprite is not terminating any worker. Yet these ones want to be paid to quit. If they are all paid to quit who will then be left to do the work??

They want to be paid - not to stay and keep working o, but to leave and go to a competitor or start a biz and start competing with Shoprite!

u dnt understand wat is going on so keep kwayet.
Organisations have corporeal existence, hence d promoters act on it behalf.
Shoprite has bn sold, d new owners can giv it a new name of their choice n come up with new HR policies.
Do u know d implication of such on d old shoprite employees? I bet u dnt.
Wen there is a name change, it means u dnt hav any employment contract with d new company, n wit a new HR policy, ur salary n work terms may not be favourable to u n so much more.
So there is need to properly end d initial employment contract n start a new one.
The stewpeed hr manager dishing out instructions n sanctions is only talking to herself as she doesn't hav any binding contract wit d former staff of shoprite.

pedrilo:
u dnt understand wat is going on so keep kwayet.
Organisations have corporeal existence, hence d promoters act on it behalf.
Shoprite has bn sold, d new owners can giv it a new name of their choice n come up with new HR policies.
Do u know d implication of such on d old shoprite employees? I bet u dnt.
Wen there is a name change, it means u dnt hav any employment contract with d new company, n wit a new HR policy, ur salary n work terms may not be favourable to u n so much more.
So there is need to properly end d initial employment contract n start a new one.
The stewpeed hr manager dishing out instructions n sanctions is only talking to herself as she doesn't hav any binding contract wit d former staff of shoprite.

U the one should keep kwayet. I dn’t think u read my comments: what they should be fighting for is a new contract that guarrantees their jobs, and any arrears paid. Not to be paid severance by the new owners to leave!

AfriqueDuZuid:


Its license agreement to use the shoprite to use the name, branding and logo

The Nigerian owners has rights/license to use the name in Nigeria only.

Yes theetse should be fighting for new contracts

So you get it: they should be fighting for new contract. As for name, they may opt to slightly change it. Important thing is Shoprite SA has no say in their affairs

CanadaOrBust:


So you get it: they should be fighting for new contract. As for name, they may opt to slightly change it. Important thing is Shoprite SA has no say in their affairs

Yeah they should deal with the owners

I'm not sure how labor laws are in Nigeria, I can't comment further