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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Nobody: 8:46am On Apr 04, 2021
If only Islamic topics could also be debated like this.

Obviously the Muslims are afraid of the dark corners in their religious beliefs and they won't allow anyone shine a torch upon their collective and individual confusions and ignorance.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Incognito403: 8:47am On Apr 04, 2021
Mikecold:
lol, all tears


Mohamed as "prophet" couldn't see he would die by poison even when his follower could literally taste it


Btw in case you new to Islam, do know that Mohamed isn't a mere prophet, he is your god upon whom "allah" dances to

He tells allah want should be and shares shahada glory with allah

Firstly, a prophet isn't a seer. A prophet only delivers messages.

Secondly, as mentioned earlier, he's a mortal and no one lives forever. In fact, several verses of the Quran already hinted that his time of departure is near since he has completed his assignment; deliver the Quran and all it's explanation and also conquer the city of makkah (the sacred land of his father Ibrahim and Ismail) from the idolators.

So, whether by sword, poison, sickness, accident or whatever, death is death.

Your third and fourth paragraphs are nothin but gibberish.

Now let's talk about your God, son-of-god (I'm sure you're more confused about this than me). Your God was killed like a criminal by infidels. He was stripped to his pants. Your God was nude.

Before that, your God spent 9 months in the womb, ignorant of the world around him. Who was monitoring the world while your God was crying for breast milk?

Tell me. Was your God pleased with those who killed him or they're going to heaven?!

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Incognito403: 8:47am On Apr 04, 2021
Mecka:
Christ didn't just come and die. He came to fulfil the scriptures. Isaiah 53:5 says: but he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sin. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.
What a "God"!!!

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by ictplotter(m): 8:47am On Apr 04, 2021
Mikecold:
He is God

Death couldn't have curtailed him
Pls i want to know, who did jesus delegated his Godship role to, when inside his mother womb for nine months. Or he was still overseeing and controlling the Godly affairs of the world right inside Mary's womb?

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Dpleaser: 8:48am On Apr 04, 2021
richidinho:
Its very funny how Seun will allow idiiots to come to this thread and type rubbish, but every muslim thread is always locked

Hypocrite
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Kestolove(m): 8:51am On Apr 04, 2021
he never died in d first place
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Keemsleek005(m): 8:51am On Apr 04, 2021
If jesus had not risen, we will still be buried in the rituals of the old testament. We will still be sacrificing animals to atone for our sins not like now we can go on her knees to ask for forgiveness. Only the priest would have access to the holy of the holiest ( the alter) just as we stroll casual to the alter and nothing happens. We would still be following the strict laws of the 10 commandment. Only a certain kind of Generations or special picked by God will have access to him and not like now we have so many pastors filled with anionting. There would be nothing like Grace, etc
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Mike008(m): 8:52am On Apr 04, 2021
WaffenSS:


Mohammed never claimed to be anything but a mere mortal.

Also Mohammed was a real person, historians attest to that.

Jesus, on the other hand, is a myth, cut out of a whole cloth of delusional fantasies of certain jews. Nothing outside the gospels prove his existence, and no historian will ever attest that he did exist.



Jesus was a "mere" mortal too until his "death".

It was a question of faith for those who realized he was the son of God before his death, even for his disciples. It was puzzling really who he was because of his incredible lifestyle and the wonders he performed.

The Jews believed in the Messiah, so much so that they doubted a "mere" mortal like Jesus would claim to be one. That is why they killed him for "claiming" he was the son of God. He never did openly declared himself God, yet he spoke and acted like one.

Only God revealed to certain people that Jesus is his son, and not Jesus himself.

Remember when God sent Jesus to die for our sons he sent him as a mere mortal not as a God. Which means, if Jesus should come again in the same manner, in today's world we will doubt him more.

If we had all existed during the time of Jesus none of us would believe he was the son of God.
We only allude to his Godhead from birth because we only existed in his history.

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by ictplotter(m): 8:53am On Apr 04, 2021
ictplotter:

Pls i want to know, who did jesus delegated his Godship role to, when inside his mother womb for nine months. Or he was still overseeing and controlling the Godly affairs of the world right inside Mary's womb or he was on vacation as a lesser god while bigger God the father was in control then?
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Owopariola: 9:01am On Apr 04, 2021
advocatejare:

We'll keep teaching you.

Israel expected a Mesaiah that would rescue them from Roman oppression.

Jesus' mission was to save Israel and the whole world from their sins and offer them salvation and was what he did

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To save the whole world you mean? Jesus doesn't even know some people were existing in sub-Saharan Africa, nor did he know anything about the ancient civilization of the Mayans, Incan, Olmec, and Aztecs in America.

Jesus doesn't know beyond the highest knowledge of the people in the desert region of the middle east then.
He only knows about the Roman oppression, but he doesn't know about the caste system going on in the Indian subcontinent for more than 1000 years before he was born. Jesus never mentioned the savagery of the Norse or Vikings people, and many others, why
because he knows nothing about them.

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Omoluabi16(m): 9:04am On Apr 04, 2021
PrimadonnaO:
Jesus' death was to undo the covenant that every soul that sinneth must die.

Satan was cashing out big time with that covenant. Animal blood sacrifices was the only way to atone for sins and breaking the law in those times.

To effectively undo it, a sinless man had to die. Jesus came to the world and lived spotless because He was a ransom for the world. A just man was killed and the covenant was undone.

This is what was being referred to in 1 Cor 2:8

"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."

The devil didn't realise he was fulfilling God's plan... had he known, he's have ensured Jesus wasn't born, let alone killed.

The resurrection of Jesus is significant in so many ways:

1.It tells the world that the kingdom of God is ruled by a living sovereign. Revelation 1:17-18. He is not like your gods of whatever you believe in. It shows the omnipotent and omniscient power of God Almighty. Undefeated!

2. Christ's triumph over the grave is proof that even we as Christians will triumph the grave. That's the hope of everlasting life.

3. It tells us with certainty, too that Christ is the Son of God Rom 1:4

If Jesus had not resurrected, the Christian faith wouldn't have been so firmly cemented.

Serving God is the absolute best decision anyone can ever make in this life. Remember Jesus today. Remember the sacrifice He made for your life. He came, lived and died so you can have an everlasting life. Don't miss out on your salvation!
woow. Except you copied this, na to open ministry remain. It's very enlightening, a proper sermon.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by advocatejare(m): 9:06am On Apr 04, 2021
Owopariola:


To save the whole world you mean? Jesus doesn't even know some people were existing in sub-Saharan Africa, nor did he know anything about the ancient civilization of the Mayans, Incan, Olmec, and Aztecs in America.

Jesus doesn't know beyond the highest knowledge of the people in the desert region of the middle east then.
He only knows about the Roman oppression, but he doesn't know about the caste system going on in the Indian subcontinent for more than 1000 years before he was born. Jesus never mentioned the savagery of the Norse or Vikings people, and many others, why
because he knows nothing about them.
Ok
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by APOSTLECHUMA: 9:06am On Apr 04, 2021
THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD AND ROTTEN IN THE GRAVE LIKE THE FOUNDERS OF THE OTHER RELIGIONS OF THE EARTH WHO ARE DEAD AND ROTTEN IN THEIR VARIOUS GRAVES, CAGGED BY THE POWER OF DEATH WHILE THEIR FOLLOWERS CONTINUE TO HAVE FALSE HOPE OF HAVING ETERNAL LIFE IN GLORY WHILE THE FOUNDERS OF THEIR RELIGIONS WERE DEVOID OF ETERNAL LIFE. A MAN CAN NOT GIVE OUT WHAT HE DOESNT HAVE AND ETERNAL LIFE IS ONLY FOUND IN CHRIST.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Funjosh(m): 9:06am On Apr 04, 2021
Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!


Our salvation would have been nothing.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by orunto27: 9:07am On Apr 04, 2021
Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!



RESURRECTION IS ONLY ONE OF THE MANY MIRACLES THAT GOD CAN DO. AND SO GOD WOULD HAVE INVENTED ANOTHER MEANS OF LEAVING FOR ETERNAL LIFE, HIS HOME, WITHOUT STRESS.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Blakjewelry(m): 9:10am On Apr 04, 2021
Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!
nothing would happen, the right questions should be, if Jesus knew if he dies he is not going to rise, he for gree die?

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by femi4: 9:10am On Apr 04, 2021
Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!
our faith would have been useless

No hope for the future

Sins remain unforgiven
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by udunyam: 9:10am On Apr 04, 2021
Our hope will be in vain
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Truefaith: 9:12am On Apr 04, 2021
gbhn
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Nobody: 9:13am On Apr 04, 2021
ictplotter:

Pls i want to know, who did jesus delegated his Godship role to, when inside his mother womb for nine months. Or he was still overseeing and controlling the Godly affairs of the world right inside Mary's womb?
You have answered the question by yourself

If Jesus was in his mother's womb as you said which was for a purpose to redeem Man to God the Father, doesn't that tell you that God the Father had a role that encompasses his

Mind you Christ role was to redeem man
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by femi4: 9:15am On Apr 04, 2021
Blakjewelry:

nothing would happen, the right questions should be, if Jesus knew if he dies he is not going to rise, he for gree die?
You are missing the point. The victory is in His resurrection.

His death would have been useless if he didn't rise again
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by orunto27: 9:18am On Apr 04, 2021
AntiChristian:
Did he resurrect before? So why didn't Israel believe the scam of death and resurrection?



ISRAEL IS NOT AN ATHEIST BUT STILL STRUGGLING TO CROSS THE CRISIS.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by Nobody: 9:20am On Apr 04, 2021
There was no other option, death and hell had no power over Him so that they bowed to the higher power.

Death could not hold him back, we have victory over death today because Jesus is alive! Death lost its sting and power because Jesus arose!
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by advocatejare(m): 9:23am On Apr 04, 2021
Incognito403:



Muslims don't worship Muhammad.
Be deceiving yourself, is your Shahada complete without mentioning muhammad?

Don't you pray in Muhammad's name? "Lola anobi Muhammad "?

Didn't Muhammad ask you to send your prayers to him?

Even Muhammad is Allah's God as Allah and Muhammad pray for Muhammad

When someone insults Allah, you won't talk but when they insult Muhammad your god, you say it's blasphemy. You can only blaspheme against God and not a mere mortal. So for saying people blaspheme against Muhammad, you'd accepted that Muhammad is your god.

Except that he was given prophet good and messengership to give tidings to those who believe and warn those who disbelieve.
Who gave Muhammad message?

Who was the witness?

Did the person mention his name and the person that sent him?


You claim he's divine.

if only you read your Qur'an, you won't be displaying ignorance about the divinity of Jesus


Your Qur'an tells you that Jesus is the Word of God

And that Jesus is the Spirit (Ruh) from God.

Now ask yourself, is your word and your spirit not part of you?


Muhammad was not found worthy to be described as that. Muhammad was not found worthy of being called the word of God that was directed to Aminah neither was he found worthy of being associated with God's Spirit. If I'm wrong, show me from the Qur'an ☺

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by pregnantMan: 9:23am On Apr 04, 2021
please help a brother. Put a smile on my face.. It's Easter and I don't even have any money for breakfast. God bless you. Amen.
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First bank
Effiong Sunday
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by orunto27: 9:25am On Apr 04, 2021
post=100470463:
What if?

That is a bi-conditional statement....

D Kokomo of d matter be say, Jesus Rose on the 3rd day after crucifixion for the salvation of our souls and to put the devil to shame forever.


Oh yesssss.
There will be no Christmas without Easter.
cheesy wink cheesy


IN COOOOORECT. IT'S XMAS BEFORE EASTER.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by abbasajao(m): 9:27am On Apr 04, 2021
Jesus will resurrect by the will of Allah.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by advocatejare(m): 9:30am On Apr 04, 2021
WaffenSS:


Mohammed never claimed to be anything but a mere mortal.

Also Mohammed was a real person, historians attest to that.

Jesus, on the other hand, is a myth, cut out of a whole cloth of delusional fantasies of certain jews. Nothing outside the gospels prove his existence, and no historian will ever attest that he did exist.


Ignoramus. Go and learn history and see for yourself. Stop listening to the lies your Alfas are telling you.

By saying that Jesus never existed, that means you're saying that your Qur'an is a book of lies. Because the authors of the Quran plagiarized the story of Jesus from the Bible and affirm that Jesus was Jewish as well as Maryam his mother.

Your Qur'an tells you that Jesus is the Word of God

And that Jesus is the Spirit (Ruh) from God.

Now ask yourself, is your word and your spirit not part of you?
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Muhammad was not found worthy to be described as that. Muhammad was not found worthy of being called the word of God that was directed to Aminah neither was he found worthy of being associated with God's Spirit. If I'm wrong, show me from the Qur'an ☺

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)

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Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by orunto27: 9:30am On Apr 04, 2021
blazepascal:
no body will be alive


RESURRECTION WAS ONLY AN INVENTION INTRODUCED TO SHOW GOD'S UNLIMITED POTENTIALS.
Re: What If Jesus Did Not Resurrect? by simple250: 9:35am On Apr 04, 2021
Look at how the Muslims are commenting freely without swearing an oath Nairaland is a biased site .... religion of peace indeed

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