UGBE634:
by language certainly Google yoruboid groups, you get igala, itsekiri and yorubas, they belong to the Same language family man

But you understand that such listing is arbitrary, right ?
Anyway, I appreciated your conversation.
It is hard to come across normal human beings on nairaland.

pinkygurl:

ТHIS FULL FVCKING MAP WAS ONE TIME A FVCKING 'Warri province ‘ under the colony and protectorate of Southern Nigeria & it’s governor.
Truth remains Na people land.Pipu papa Land.The almighty colonizing foreigners dey carry jump their administrative offices enter to call Warri. The British moved itsekiri OLU traditional palace from Ode-itsekiri to a fvcking Warri mainland-more & more people’s papa land .
ALL l see in this Fvcking map are Lands & plots of Lands & territories of Agbarha consisting of OtovwodoAgbarha,Igbudu,Edjeba,Okurode,Ogunu,Oteghele,Ukpokiti,Okere-Urhobo, and plots of Land & territories of Gbanrsnmatu,Ogbe-Ijaw et al
& plots of land & teritories of isekiri & ode-itsekiri Labelled a fvcking name 'Warri' .which cannot be found in any of the languages.which the Ijaw man claims is related to WARI or home/house in IJaw;& the itsekiri man claims is related to iwerre in itsekiri. If you like call any of these fvcking lands warri north.wari south.warri east
Thank Goodness the full FVCking map is no longer called or recognised as a fvcking 'warri province' under protectorate of southern Nigeria but called Delta or some tribes would have claimed.ughelli,sapele,asaba are living among WARES or house/home in IJAW & another tribe would have claimed ughelli,sapele,asaba are livng among iwerre.
SHEBI EVERYBODY FVCKING KNOW WHERE IM FVCKING PAPA LAND DEY?IF ANSWER IS YES,
If you like rename this whole map again to 'Map of SMART LAND',Nigeria;get it recognised in a court of law as 'Smartland' ,Nigeria .& let somebody Crown himself 'OLU OR PERE OF SMARTLAND'.
FVCKING TRUTH IS THE KING OF THE WHOLE SMARTLAND WILL ONLY KING OVER ONLY HIS PAPA OIL WELL & ONLY HIS PAPA LAND
IF HE LIKES 'smart' should be a word found in his native tribe.'
HE & HIS SMART TITLE UPHELD IN A COURT OF LAW & EVEN THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE & WORLD GAZETTE SEF WILL ONLY KING AND CHIEF OVER ONLY HIS PAPA LAND & HIS PAPA & HIS ANCESTORS OIL WELL ONLY COS EVERYBODY KNOW IM PAPA LAND
'.If he likes sb should help PERE OR OVIE OR OLU OF SMARTLAND to quickly jump to wikepedia sef & edit names of past king in his native Papaland to 'pastkings of smartland.A PERE will only Pere over IJaw owned lands in smartland.just as An OvIE would onĺy king/OVIE over Urhobo owned lands.Everybody know im land.period!

The Olu of warri is the monarch of ITSEKIRIS ONLY. so he can even add OLU OF NIGERIA to his title should he want & copyright it also.THE URHOBOS,IJAWS Of WARRI.do not give a fvck about the title of the king of the ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI as far as he sticks to collecting royalties from ITSEKIRI BOUNDARY ONLY & ITSEKIRI OWNED OIL WELLS OF WARRI ONLY
The Olu or Ogiame (King) of Warri now only rules the Itsekiri people living in the town of Warri in the Delta State of Nigeria as a traditional leader..

Awo changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri.

The court ruling states unequivocally that the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.
OLU OF WARRI CAN ONLY KING OVER ITSEKIRI OIL WELLS OF WARRI & ITSEKIRI OWNED LANDS OF WARRI.

https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts


http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

pinkygurl:


The Olu of warri is the monarch of ITSEKIRIS ONLY. so he can add OLU OF NIGERIA to his title if he wants & copyright it also.THE URHOBOS,IJAWS Of WARRI.do not give a fvck about the title of the king of the ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI as far as he sticks to collecting royalties from ITSEKIRI BOUNDARY ONLY & ITSEKIRI OWNED OIL WELLS ONLY
The Olu or Ogiame (King) of Warri now only rules the Itsekiri people living in the town of Warri in the Delta State of Nigeria as a traditional leader..

- In pre-colonial and colonial times, there was a marked division of territory in Warri. The Ijaws occupied the islands and shores in the Warri South West Axis, the Itsekiris occupied the islands and mainlands close to the coastal areas in Warri South and North while the Urhobos occupied the hinterland with the exception of Okere-Urhobo and Agbassa urhobo who occupied coastal regions

When the colonial NCNC and the Action Group party was formed, the Itsekiris embraced the AG while the Urhobos embraced NCNC. Awolowo punished the Urhobos for this by placing the Itsekiri monarch above all the Urhobo monarchs. Awo also changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri .

The court ruling states unequivocally that the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.

https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts
https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts

pinkygurl:


AGBARHA & OKERE URHOBO;are they ITSEKIRI DOMAINS? or proudly urhobo ovuovo domains.
Agbarha comprises of seven patriarch towns of otovwodo-agbarha in warri;igbudu in warri;Edjeba in warri;Okurode,Ogunu,Oteghele and Ukpokiti.Those are urhobo domains subject to OVIE urhobo king.Agbarha and Okere-urhobo of warri.
Not to mention OGBE-IJOH (if spelling is correct);GBARANMATU,ISABA to mention but a few.IS THAT AN ITSEKIRI DOMAIN?
are they not located in Warri?
Some urhobo communities in warri south!
1.idimi sobo
2.agbassa
3.edjeba
4.okere-urhobo
5.ogunu
Warri has an itsekiri domain;urhobo domain & IJaw domain all ruled by three kings whatever their effing titles may be.
OLU OF WARRI does not king over Agbarha,Okere Urhobo or urhobo owned lands of Warri. Just as king of Ijaws does not king over itsekiri owned lands of warri. Any trespass would result in another warri crises replay

Warri belongs to itsekiris;urhobos & ijaws.
Itsekiris;urhobos & Ijaws all have oil.3 indigenous people;3 different tribes,3 different languages.3 different people subject to 3 different kings & they all know their boundaries. If anybody trespasses his boundary,it would be another Warri crises replay.
NEXT TIME ASK WHY YOUR PROMINENT ISTEKIRI KING & CHIEFS WITH THEIR VERY PROMINENT TITLES CANNOT KING OR CHIEF OVER URHOBO OR IJAW OIL WELLS OF WARRI OR THEIR COMMUNIITIES
https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm


http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

Alright nobody is dragging your father’s ancestral land with you

pinkygurl:

Effurun is not Warri.Effurun is uvwie local government area.which has grown towards warri as a result of development.
Itsekiris cannot claim to own Warri.Warri belongs to urhobo,ljaw & itsekiris. Warri has Ijaw domain subject to PERE. itsekiri domain subject to OLU.Warri has urhobo domain.subject to OVIE.
Till eternity ijaw land of Warri remains ljaw land.itsekiri land remains itsekiri land.
Urhobos have their own king. callled OVIE.
Ijaw king PERE. Itsekiri king OLU. Itsekiri oil wells remain itsekiri oil wells.Ijaw oil wells remain Ijaw oil wells.Urhobo oil wells remain urhobo oil wells

Ovie of Agbara in warri for example.
Agbarha comprises of seven patriarch towns of otovwodo-agbarha in warri;igbudu in warri;Edjeba in warri;Okurode,Ogunu,Oteghele and Ukpokiti.Those are exclusively urhobo domains subject to IVIE urhobo king.Agbarha and Okere-urhobo of warri.

Gbaranmatu;Isaba and Ogbe ijoh are exclusively IJaw domains in Warri subject to lJaw king-Pere
Itsekiri domains are subject to king-OLU
Awo changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri.

The court ruling states unequivocally that the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.
OLU OF WARRI CAN ONLY KING OVER ITSEKIRI OIL WELLS OF WARRI & ITSEKIRI OWNED LANDS OF WARRI.
Warri belongs to itsekiris;urhobos & ijaws.
Itsekiris;urhobos & Ijaws all have oil.3 indigenous people;3 different tribes,3 different languages.3 different people subject to 3 different kings & they all know their boundaries. If anybody trespasses his boundary,it would be another Warri crises replay.
ASK WHY YOUR PROMINENT ISTEKIRI KING & CHIEFS WITH THEIR VERY PROMINENT TITLES CANNOT KING OR CHIEF OVER URHOBO OR IJAW OIL WELLS OF WARRI OR THEIR COMMUNIITIES

P.S The name "Warri" was coined by a Portuguese explorer and has no origin with the Itsekiri titular name of "Iwere". This is a historical fact. Furthermore, other names of places in the Warri Axis such as "Forcados" were also colonial coinages. TRADITIONAL WARRI WAS NOT IWERE in itsekiri.NEITHER WAS IT WARE in IJaw

Warri is made up of three local government areas; Warri South LGA which is dominated by the Urhobos of Okere and Agbassa and the Itsekiris, Warri South West which is dominated by Ijaws and Itsekiris and Warri North which is mainly dominated by the Itsekiris with Ijaws as well.
The ijaws,urhobos & itsekiris of warri all have different traditional rulers with trsditional titles in today's traditional warri.
The name "Warri" was coined by a Portuguese explorer and has no origin with the Itsekiri titular name of "Iwere". This is a historical fact.

- In pre-colonial and colonial times, there was a marked division of territory in Warri. The Ijaws occupied the islands and shores in the Warri South West Axis, the Itsekiris occupied the islands and mainlands close to the coastal areas in Warri South and North while the Urhobos occupied the hinterland with the exception of Okere-Urhobo and Agbassa urhobo who occupied coastal regions
- The Agbassa (Agbara-Ame) People of Warri South Local Government Area were migrants to Warri from their home town of Agbarha-Otor just like the Idjerhe(Jesse) and Oghara people of Ethiope West.
NA URHOBO;IJAW & ITSEKIRI LAND the Portuguese dash Warri. The British moved itsekiri OLU traditional palace from ode-itsekiri to Warri mainland.
The Olu of warri is the monarch of ITSEKIRIS ONLY. so he can add OLU OF NIGERIA to his title should he want & copyright it also.THE URHOBOS,IJAWS Of WARRI.do not give a fvck about the title of the king of the ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI as far as he sticks to collecting royalties from ITSEKIRI BOUNDARY ONLY & ITSEKIRI OWNED OIL WELLS ONLY
The Olu or Ogiame (King) of Warri now only rules the Itsekiri people living in the town of Warri in the Delta State of Nigeria as a traditional leader..


https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts


http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

Hanty it’s alright. Nobody is dragging King of your ancestral land or king of your fatherland with you. Everybody is OLU & KING & PERE & OVIE of his own ancestral father resources.
As far as the federal law doesn’t grant anybody the power to rule over other people’s land of heritage .Hanty it’s alright let everybody bear any title they want

Truthshots2:

But you understand that such listing is arbitrary, right ?

guy such listings can't be arbitrary man!I mean look at their names, have you heard an itsekiri man before they sound every way like those riverine yorubas like ilaje and ijebus,it can't be arbitrary man! igala that is even somehow distant, I heard someone spoke to her mother on phone it sounded everything like yoruba. when you say a group is "oid" it means it is close to or related to linguistically,the largest or the most dominant language is usually selected hence the term yoruboid. it is not arbitrary at least not the ones I have seen. that urhobos and esans were classified as edoid made me know already that such couldn't have been arbitrary man. they took their time. I as an Edo man can interpret 8 out of every ten esan names. I can interpret 6 out of every ten urhobo names,we share similar cultures, the kings title are basically the same, ovie/ogie/ojie save for the v,g,and,j modifications overtime and you dare call it arbitrary, that's so not true man. language is a major determiner of relationships ancestrally and the jekri are certainly a riverine yoruboid group. Heck, the urhobos call God oghene, to the north of Benin our cousins call it oghena that is the etsako people heck we the edos call the king of ife the oghene of uhe in our native tongue, this is only a pointer to the fact that the word oghene is an ancient edoid word for God that was used by the edos before migrations southward and north. there might have been modifications overtime as a result of mingling with their neighbours but the overall structure is certainly still the same. the take here is they sound more like yorubas than any other group

pinkygurl:

Warri is a conglomerate of three tribes;itsekiri,ijaws & urhobos.
All with interlocking land borders.3 tribes & soverign cultures in their own rights.with totally different languages. The itsekiris have similar language & culture to yorubas.The IJaws same language & similar culture with ljaws in Bayelsa & rivers.
The urhobos similar language & culture to the isokos & urhobo nation outside warri but still in delta.
So much ado about a title.
If he is the OLU of WARRI;.HE REMAINS THE KING OF THE ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI,ONLY.
just as OVIE REMAINS KING OF THE URHOBOS OF WARRI ONLY.e.g OVIE-king of Agbarha in warri.Agbarha comprises of seven patriarch towns of otovwodo-agbarha in warri;igbudu in warri;Edjeba in warri;Okurode,Ogunu,Oteghele and Ukpokiti.These are urhobo domains subject to OVIE urhobo king.Agbarha and Okere-urhobo of warri.
dont know the traditional name for the IJAWS' KING.
Whatever,they all know their boundaries.They all have crude oil within their officially owned territories in warri.
So theOLU cannot show himself more than his boundary.which remains restricted to only the itsekiris of Warri.or another clash go break out.
Last time l checked,the itsekiris of warri were always clashing with the ijaws of warri

https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

pinkygurl:

A simple google search of kingdom of warri should help.
The OLU remains ruler of ITSEKIRI LANDS OF WARRI.
thats where his soverignity begins & end.
He is not the king of AGBARA IN WARRI.An urhobo land.Agbarha comprises of seven patriarch towns of otovwodo-agbarha in warri;igbudu in warri;Edjeba in warri;Okurode,Ogunu,Oteghele and Ukpokiti.Those are urhobo domains subject to OVIE urhobo king.Agbarha and Okere-urhobo of warri.
The king of AGBARHA IN WARRI for example, is callled OVIE . The IJAW KING is called PERE.
The OLU(Ogiame) remains ruler of itsekiri lands only of Warri till eternity
Awo changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri
The court ruling states unequivocally the the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.
https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts


http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

UGBE634:

we the edos call the king of ife the oghene of uhe in our native tongue

What proof of that do you have ?


Look, I am not in the business of discussing fairytales and legends.
I told you that "linguistic list" is arbitrary. The people who keep using it are not linguists and do not understand linguistics. You just all seem to believe you can debate what you know nothing about. And Google is not a linguist.

But first this your oghene, prove me what you said about that word.

I think I mistook you for a rational thinker. But when you started with the word oghene which I know for a fact that you took from the internet, that exposed you as an other person trained by Google.

For your info oghene is a mythical name created by European crusaders who were in search of a mythical Christian king. It was first spelled Ogvene.

You guys need to seperate the rubbish you read online from actual history.

[quote author=Truthshots2 post=100619395]

What proof of that do you have ?


Look, I am not on the business of discussing fairytales and legends.
I told you that "linguistic list" is arbitrary. The people who keep using it are not linguists and do not understand linguistics. You just all seem to believe you can debate what you know nothing about. And Google is not a linguist.

But first this your oghene, prove me what you said about that word.

i already told you I am an edo man we Don't have any word as the ooni of Ife in my language you can ask any Benin man around you that is at least 40 years old

pinkygurl:

If The name Warri was coined from itsekiri iwerre,or Wari(home or house)in ijaw.No tribe has been able to prove it in a court of Law.l advise you to go to a court of Law & help the itsekiris to prove it so that it can be upheld by the CJN.
Cos the portuguese coined the name 'Warri'. even 'Forcados'. & the portuguese & Europeans who remain strangers till eternity were fond of jumping from people's land to other people's land & calling it Warri for administrative purposes.
The original palace of OLU was at Ode-itsekiri.

And as for your claim of IJaws laying claim to some itsekiri lands & itsekiris accusing ijaws of laying claim to some ijaw lands or urhobo accusing ijaws of laying claims to some of their lands.
I was not there with their ancestors to really know who is lyeing.we do not want more replays of warri crises
An itsekiri would tell you ijaw stole some of their lands .l dont know who is lyeing.e nor concern me.ma papa nor be the king of any part in today's warri or wafftown & my papa nor get any land talkless of somebody stealing it yet although he is planning on buying some lands soon.So if ur papa is ODION & somebody is claiming his land in ODION road.Na una two sabi.. Odion sounds like urhobo word for 'elder',tho.elder should be odion in urhobo language.
We have 3 tribes in Warri : Ijaws, Itsekiris and the Urhobos.
And all the 3 tribes have their kings.
The Urhobos have Kings in Warri
The Ovie of Agbarha-Warri and the Okere-Urhobo.
The Ijaws have king Pere of Ogbe-Ijaw.
The Itsekiris have the Olu of Warri.
TRUTH REMAINS NA PEOPLE LAND;PIPU PAPA LAND.THE ALMIGHTY COLONISING FOREIGNERS DEY CARRY JUMP THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES ENTER TO CALL WARRI .URHOBO,IJAW & ITSEKIRI LANDS.
so everybody knows their boundary
NA URHOBO;IJAW & ITSEKIRI LAND the Portuguese dash Warri. The British moved itsekiri OLU traditional palace from ode-itsekiri to a fvcking Warri mainland-yet,more people's papa & fatherland. .Even the full delta state was one time a fvcking 'warri province' under the colony and protectorate of Southern Nigeria.
The Olu of warri is the monarch of ITSEKIRIS ONLY. so he can add OLU OF NIGERIA to his title should he want & copyright it also.THE URHOBOS,IJAWS Of WARRI.do not give a fvck about the title of the king of the ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI as far as he sticks to collecting royalties from ITSEKIRI BOUNDARY ONLY & ITSEKIRI OWNED OIL WELLS OF WARRI ONLY
The Olu or Ogiame (King) of Warri now only rules the Itsekiri people living in the town of Warri in the Delta State of Nigeria as a traditional leader..

Awo changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri.

The court ruling states unequivocally that the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.
OLU OF WARRI CAN ONLY KING OVER ITSEKIRI OIL WELLS OF WARRI & ITSEKIRI OWNED LANDS OF WARRI.

https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts


http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalSubunits/AgbarhaAme/WarriEthnicProblems/AgbarhaReactionToFederalization.htm

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/WACA_judgement.html

http://www.waado.org/CulturalUnits/Okpe/sapele_lands/jackson_judgement.htm

[quote author=UGBE634 post=100619704][/quote]of course we don't have any word for Oni of Ife, we also don't have any word for chief imam of Sokoto. Ife was an irrelevant village untill the British started transforming it in 1912.
Benin was an empire, and please stop claiming to be Edo.
If your only argument is "I'm Edo" then you have no argument.
You guys hide your total ignorance of history and facts with your claims of ethnic affiliation.

You really need to learn how to think.

Truthshots2:
You guys need to seperate the rubbish you read online from actual history.

uhe is like a birth canal and we see Ife as a spiritual house, a virgin source, the priest known as ooni today was known as the oghene because Ife was seen as a spiritual house. oghene is an Edo word I have nothing to gain from this argument with you I am not a baby that will go on spilling what is not here and there to what end. Go and read I remain sir your humble servant by the late Oba of Benin oba eredieuwa goodbye

pinkygurl:


The Olu of warri is the monarch of ITSEKIRIS ONLY. so he can add OLU OF NIGERIA to his title if he wants & copyright it also.THE URHOBOS,IJAWS Of WARRI.do not give a fvck about the title of the king of the ITSEKIRIS OF WARRI as far as he sticks to collecting royalties from ITSEKIRI BOUNDARY ONLY & ITSEKIRI OWNED OIL WELLS ONLY
The Olu or Ogiame (King) of Warri now only rules the Itsekiri people living in the town of Warri in the Delta State of Nigeria as a traditional leader..

- In pre-colonial and colonial times, there was a marked division of territory in Warri. The Ijaws occupied the islands and shores in the Warri South West Axis, the Itsekiris occupied the islands and mainlands close to the coastal areas in Warri South and North while the Urhobos occupied the hinterland with the exception of Okere-Urhobo and Agbassa urhobo who occupied coastal regions

When the colonial NCNC and the Action Group party was formed, the Itsekiris embraced the AG while the Urhobos embraced NCNC. Awolowo punished the Urhobos for this by placing the Itsekiri monarch above all the Urhobo monarchs. Awo also changed the traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri to the Olu of Warri .

The court ruling states unequivocally that the Olu of Warri is a mere titular appellation and his over-lord's powers are limited to Itsekiri traditional homesteads.

https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts
https://www.nairaland.com/2148799/warri-urhobos-itsekiris-ijaws-facts

UGBE634:
uhe is like a birth canal and we see Ife as a spiritual house, a virgin source, the priest known as ooni today was known as the oghene because Ife was seen as a spiritual house. oghene is an Edo word I have nothing to gain from this argument with you I am not a baby that will go on spilling what is not here and there to what end. Go and read I remain sir your humble servant by the late Oba of Benin oba eredieuwa goodbye

Origins of the word oghene:
https://www.raremaps.com/category/Maps/Africa/West_Africa

The word comes from this fictional map it was spelled Orgvne.

You know nothing at all, stop disguising your lack of education with nonsensical statements and quoting of trash you read online. Ife has never been sacred to any Edo person. I am starting to doubt your claims of being Edo, by the way, I am Edo.

You clearly lack a sense of history.
As I already told you, Ife was an irrelevant village which only got built by the British as from 1912.

Truthshots2:

What proof do you have to back up your claim ?
He is the Olu of Warri !
It seems to me that you guys are trying to create artificial kingdoms based on "ethnicity" out of already existing kingdoms.
Stop playing politics with tradition.

it's not about providing proofs.. he has no authority over urhobo and ijaw lands in Warri...
itself is can't rally around Igbudu, Agbassa, Okere road axis, Ogunu, Okumagba layout and so on during the Olu's coronation anniversary...
go and ask.

Truthshots2:


Origins of the word oghene:
https://www.raremaps.com/category/Maps/Africa/West_Africa

Go and read that book. The oba only died recently. It will cure your ignorance, the Europeans only wrote down what they were told by the oba of Benin who told them that he came from ife and that's country is tied to it spiritually go and ask your father what was the Edo name for the ooni of Ife he would tell you if you are one. the argument that Ife was a village until 1912 is not in doubt as she did not evolve into a proper kingdom. see you can't be more Edo than me go and check my past threads and arguement you can't be more Edo than me you are young, you don't have deep knowledge of the Edo language and you are sincerely ignorant. a simple Google search will help you the late Oba of Benin granted so many interviews in his lifetime educate yourself man

UGBE634:
go and read that book the oba only died recently, it will cure your ignorance, the Europeans only wrote down what they were told by the oba of Benin who told them that he came from ife and that's country is tied to it spiritually go and ask your father what was the Edo name for the ooni of Ife he would tell you if you are one. the argument that Ife was a village until 1912 is not in doubt as she did not evolve into a proper kingdom. see you can't be more Edo than me go and check my past threads and arguement you can't be more Edo than me you are young, you don't have deep knowledge of the Edo language and you are sincerely ignorant. a simple Google search will help you the late Oba of Benin granted so many interviews in his lifetime educate yourself man

1) Why do you keep arguing after you have already been proven wrong ? Look stop claiming to be Edo, you are clearly not Edo. I guess you think it makes your arguments more credible.

2) As I have told you already, the map is fictional, it was made by crusaders looking for a mythical Christian king. The names on the map do not match those on previously made maps nor on later made maps of that same era. The fictional name of the mythical king is "prester John"
https://www.raremaps.com/category/Maps/Africa/West_Africa

3) you have no argument

UGBE634:
uhe is like a birth canal and we see Ife as a spiritual house, a virgin source, the priest known as ooni today was known as the oghene because Ife was seen as a spiritual house. oghene is an Edo word I have nothing to gain from this argument with you I am not a baby that will go on spilling what is not here and there to what end. Go and read I remain sir your humble servant by the late Oba of Benin oba eredieuwa goodbye

If Oghene is an edo or Benin world,l completely agree with you.
The isokos call AlmightyGod- ‘Oghene’ although the g is silent in isoko language. The urhobos call Almighty God same ‘OGHENE’ although h is silent in urhobo
language.

I am isoko from A town called “Enhwe” close to IGBIDE ISOKO SOUTH. The people from enhwe speak a deep variant of Isoko and can understand urhobos more than other isokos variant.
My great grandfather an enhwe man is said to originate from EDO. And my great great grandfather is Erhabor an edo/Benin man.
Most isokos in enhwe town came from edo during a Great War .
That’s the history of my people- ENHWE IN ISOKO SOUTH. So your own history sounds correct

These clowns. Edo state was created in the 1990's.
Alternate history all over. This is all due to the fact history is very badly thought in Nigeria.

Truthshots2:
These clowns. Edo state was created in the 1990's.
Alternate history all over. This is all due to the fact history is very badly thought in Nigeria.

There was an old benin empire . It was formed around 11th century AD. Annexed by british empire 1897.Ruins of the old kingdom can still be traced today
Delta state was created in 1991.

Truthshotcrazy:

There was an old benin empire . It was formed around 11th century AD. Annexed by british empire 1897.Ruins of the old kingdom can still be traced today
Delta state was created in 1991.

Google kid. This is news for you, not for me. By the way nobody knows when Benin empire was created but we know it dates earlier than the 12th century.

You clearly said "Edo-state" which by the way is only a part of Benin empire, Delta state and Lagos are other parts of Benin empire.
These are pieces of land which were named Edo-State and Delta-state in 1991.

Google kids, know your places.

You don't even know what an Edo is.
Children, you should go to school where someone like me will teach you.

Truthshots2:


Google kid. This is news for you, not for me. By the way nobody knows when Benin empire was created but we know it dates earlier than the 12th century.

You clearly said Edo state which is only a part of Benin empire, Delta state and Lagos are other parts of Benin empire.

Google kids, know your places.

No where did l mention edo ‘state’. But l said Edo.
Kingdom of Benin ,Edo was around 1180-1897. & the present city bear its ancient ruins & rich history.
You and your google cannot rewrite my history as an isoko man.
The history of my people Enhwe in isoko south ,handed over to me by my father from his own father.
I am a descendant of an edo man “Erhabor” .
90% of people in isoko south village Enhwe including the royal king family of EnHwe in isoko south,came from Edo the ancient kingdom during a Great War & settled in Enhwe.
That is the history of my people.

Truthshotcrazy:

If Oghene is an edo or Benin world,l completely agree with you.
The isokos call AlmightyGod- ‘Oghene’ although the g is silent in isoko language. The urhobos call Almighty God same ‘OGHENE’ although h is silent in urhobo
language.

I am isoko from A town called “Enhwe” close to IGBIDE ISOKO SOUTH. The people from enhwe speak a deep variant of Isoko and can understand urhobos more than other isokos variant.
My great grandfather an enhwe man is said to originate from EDO. And my great great grandfather is Erhabor an edo/Benin man.
Most isokos in enhwe town came from edo state during a Great War .
That’s the history of my people- ENHWE IN ISOKO SOUTH. So your own history sounds correct

ISOKO WADOO!!!!
OGHENE DOOOOOOO!!!!!!
ENHWE WA DOO!!!!!
LONG LIVE MY FAMILY,MY ISOKO HERITAGE
PROUD GREAT GREAT GRAND CHILD OF ERHABOR

Truthshotcrazy:

No where did l mention edo ‘state’. But l said Edo.

You totally lack self awareness.

I just don't get it, you guys are so deluded that you keep arguing after you are proven to be wrong.

You keep posting things you freshly got from Google as if it makes you professors. Education is not about typing on Google.

But since the age of the internet, you uneducated people think access to Google can simulate intelligence for you.

Truthshots2:


You totally lack self awareness.

You yourself lack self awareness!
THAT IS AN ERROR.OBVIOUSLY
I REP ISOKO
ENWHE IN ISOKO SOUTH.
& I KNOW MY ROOTS AS A PROUD DESCENDANT OF ERHABOR. So weda l mistakenly call it edo state or Auchi sef.
I will proudly tell my children’s children we are descen of the people & culture who answer names like erhabor in present day edo State or auchi axis.
ISOKO WADOOO!!!!!
OGHENE DOH!!!!!!!
ENHWE WA DOOOOO!!!!
LONG LIVE THE ISOKO PEOPLE!!!!!
LONG LIVE MY HERITAGE....
LONG LIVE ENWHE!!!!

Truthshotcrazy:

THEN IT IS AN ERROR.
I REP ISOKO
ENWHE IN ISOKO SOUTH.
& I KNOW MY ROOTS AS A PROUD DESCENDANT OF ERHABOR. So weda l mistakenly call it edo state or Auchi sef.
I will proudly tell my children’s children we are descen of the people & culture who answer names like erhabor in present day edo State or auchi axis.
ISOKO WADOOO!!!!!
OGHENE DOH!!!!!!!
ENHWE WA DOOOOO!!!!

go to school where someone like me will teach you

Truthshotcrazy:

If Oghene is an edo or Benin world,l completely agree with you.
The isokos call AlmightyGod- ‘Oghene’ although the g is silent in isoko language. The urhobos call Almighty God same ‘OGHENE’ although h is silent in urhobo
language.

I am isoko from A town called “Enhwe” close to IGBIDE ISOKO SOUTH. The people from enhwe speak a deep variant of Isoko and can understand urhobos more than other isokos variant.
My great grandfather an enhwe man is said to originate from EDO. And my great great grandfather is Erhabor an edo/Benin man.
Most isokos in enhwe town came from edo during a Great War .
That’s the history of my people- ENHWE IN ISOKO SOUTH. So your own history sounds correct

'Oghene' is an urhobo/isoko word for 'god'
it is used when translating the word 'god' regardless of the god the phrase is referring to.

what we call 'Almighty God' is 'Osonobruwhe'

Truthshots2:
go to school where someone like me will teach you

So YOU WANT TO TEACH ME MY CULTURE AND HERITAGE AS AN ISOKO MAN FROM ENHWE IN ISOKO SOUTH. OR I SHOULD SUBSCRIBE TO THE HISTORY PASSEED TO ME FROM MY KING -OVIE OF ENHWE TOWN & FROM MY FATHER TO ME FROM HIS FATHER DOWN GENERATIONS THat MY ISOKO FAMILY UNIT BEARING MY SURNAME ARE DESCENDANTS OF “Erhabor”
Oga abeg go LEARN THE HISTORY OF UR OWN VILLAGE & hug transformer .l
I rep ISOKO !!!! Enhwe in isoko south with its rich crude oil resources also contributing to GDP
ISOKO SOUTH!!!!!
OGHENE DOHHHHHH!!!
ENHWE WA DO!!!!!!!!