compton11:
how far bro?

Why is my questions unanswered?

Can't u defend holy Bible again?

compton11:
nigga not only Arab where even using it before Islam.

Olden jews and women in desert used it too but Allah make it law for believing women.



And nigga I asked u question and u dodged it,why?

Christianity is not a man made religion like Islam.
We do what God instructs us to do or what is written in the Scriptures.

But Islam is a man made religion . It was not God or your god Allah that instructed the Muslims to be wearing hijabs . It was umar :
Hadith

UMAR B KHATTAB WAS THE INVENTOR OF HIJAB IN ISLAM :

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ بْنُ شُعَيْبِ بْنِ اللَّيْثِ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ جَدِّي، حَدَّثَنِي عُقَيْلُ بْنُ، خَالِدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ بْنِ الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ أَزْوَاجَ، رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كُنَّ يَخْرُجْنَ بِاللَّيْلِ إِذَا تَبَرَّزْنَ إِلَى الْمَنَاصِعِ وَهُوَ صَعِيدٌ أَفْيَحُ وَكَانَ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ يَقُولُ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم احْجُبْ نِسَاءَكَ ‏.‏ فَلَمْ يَكُنْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَفْعَلُ فَخَرَجَتْ سَوْدَةُ بِنْتُ زَمْعَةَ زَوْجُ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَيْلَةً مِنَ اللَّيَالِي عِشَاءً وَكَانَتِ امْرَأَةً طَوِيلَةً فَنَادَاهَا عُمَرُ أَلاَ قَدْ عَرَفْنَاكِ يَا سَوْدَةُ ‏.‏ حِرْصًا عَلَى أَنْ يُنْزِلَ الْحِجَابَ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ الْحِجَابَ ‏.‏
A'isha reported that the wives of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to go out in the cover of night when they went to open fields (in the outskirts of Medina) for easing themselves. 'Umar b Khattab used to say:

Allah's Messenger, ask your ladies to observe veil, but Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do that. So there went out Sauda, daughter of Zarn'a, the wife of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), during one of the nights when it was dark. She was a tall statured lady. 'Umar called her saying: Sauda, we recognise you. (He did this with the hope that the verses pertaining to veil would be revealed.) 'A'isha said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, then revealed the verses pertaining to veil.
Sahih Muslim 2170 d
In-book : Book 39, Hadith 25
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 26, Hadith 5397  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

MUHAMMAD HAD TO ACCEPT IT TO STOP THE MOCKERY FROM UMAR.

THAT MAKES UMAR THE LAST PROPHET OF ALLAH.

enilove:


Christianity is not a man made religion like Islam.

nigga stop deceiving your ancestors here

Is it God or Jesus that created Christianity?

enilove:

We do what God instructs us to do or what is written in the Scriptures.

Deuteronomy 14:21

You must not eat anything that has died a natural death. You may give it to a foreigner living in your town, or you may sell it to a stranger. But do not eat it yourselves, for you are set apart as holy to the LORD your God. “You must not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.

Can u do that?

Give carcass to foreigner?

And where Yahweh instructed u to be clapping,dancing and closing eyes when praying and where did he commanded Christmas celebration?

enilove:

But Islam is a man made religion . It was not God or your god Allah that instructed the Muslims to be wearing hijabs .

nigga must u lie?


“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59).

enilove:

It was umar :
Hadith

UMAR B KHATTAB WAS THE INVENTOR OF HIJAB IN ISLAM :

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ بْنُ شُعَيْبِ بْنِ اللَّيْثِ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ جَدِّي، حَدَّثَنِي عُقَيْلُ بْنُ، خَالِدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ بْنِ الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ أَزْوَاجَ، رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كُنَّ يَخْرُجْنَ بِاللَّيْلِ إِذَا تَبَرَّزْنَ إِلَى الْمَنَاصِعِ وَهُوَ صَعِيدٌ أَفْيَحُ وَكَانَ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ يَقُولُ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم احْجُبْ نِسَاءَكَ ‏.‏ فَلَمْ يَكُنْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَفْعَلُ فَخَرَجَتْ سَوْدَةُ بِنْتُ زَمْعَةَ زَوْجُ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَيْلَةً مِنَ اللَّيَالِي عِشَاءً وَكَانَتِ امْرَأَةً طَوِيلَةً فَنَادَاهَا عُمَرُ أَلاَ قَدْ عَرَفْنَاكِ يَا سَوْدَةُ ‏.‏ حِرْصًا عَلَى أَنْ يُنْزِلَ الْحِجَابَ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ الْحِجَابَ ‏.‏
A'isha reported that the wives of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to go out in the cover of night when they went to open fields (in the outskirts of Medina) for easing themselves. 'Umar b Khattab used to say:

Allah's Messenger, ask your ladies to observe veil, but Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do that. So there went out Sauda, daughter of Zarn'a, the wife of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), during one of the nights when it was dark. She was a tall statured lady. 'Umar called her saying: Sauda, we recognise you. (He did this with the hope that the verses pertaining to veil would be revealed.) 'A'isha said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, then revealed the verses pertaining to veil.
Sahih Muslim 2170 d
In-book : Book 39, Hadith 25
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 26, Hadith 5397  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

and verses of veil came after that,so?

enilove:

MUHAMMAD HAD TO ACCEPT IT TO STOP THE MOCKERY FROM UMAR.“

point it to me where prophet(saw) accepted it from UMAR.

enilove:

THAT MAKES UMAR THE LAST PROPHET OF ALLAH.

in the bible,right?

sagenaija:

oh u want to as if u dont know right?

I will ask u again then

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


What happened there Mr man?

OkCornel:


Better things for the Holy Spirit to deal with than a pointless guessing game.

The Holy Spirit is not for sports and games... Jeez!!!

so it is pointless for holy spirit to tell to where verses of Bible is , right?

compton11:
so it is pointless for holy spirit to tell to where verses of Bible is , right?

When there’s a search engine or I can ask someone else for it? Waste of time...

Better things to ask the Holy Spirit for are for example;

1. Your purpose in life

2. The cure to COVID-19 or a fool proof way to prevent infections e.g specific meals or fruits or herbs to take...

Weightier issues, not all these trivial nonsense like asking for Bible passage reference...

Abi is the Holy Spirit a joke to you?

compton11:
nigga stop deceiving your ancestors here
Is it God or Jesus that created Christianity?

Deuteronomy 14:21

You must not eat anything that has died a natural death. You may give it to a foreigner living in your town, or you may sell it to a stranger. But do not eat it yourselves, for you are set apart as holy to the LORD your God. “You must not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.

Can u do that?
Give carcass to foreigner?

And where Yahweh instructed u to be clapping,dancing and closing eyes when praying and where did he commanded Christmas celebration?
nigga must u lie?

“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59).

and verses of veil came after that,so?

point it to me where prophet(saw) accepted it from UMAR.

in the bible,right?

Christianity was created by God. This you can know through the signs and wonders God is doing in the lives of we the Christians .
Acts 3:6-10 KJV
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. [7] And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. [8] And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. [9] And all the people saw him walking and praising God: [10] And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him.

Jesus is God , as a Son of God , he is God like his Father.

Allah must have read the Bible before attesting to its validity. Is Allah not the god that wrote the Torah ?
If Allah says give carcass of animals to your neighbours , why questioning him ?

We are commanded to clap our hands and sing to our God in the Bible :

Psalm 47:1 KJV
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

BACK TO THE ISSUE OF HIJAB.

Why should Allah reveal revelations after a man has suggested the revelation ?
Is that God ? And what other revelation do you require after the evidence I showed you ?

UMAR GAVE MUHAMMAD REVELATIONS AND SUGGESTED QURAN TO ALLAH , AS PER THE BELOW :

Hadith
Narrated `Umar (bin Al-Khattab):
My Lord agreed with me in three things: -1. I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers). So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two rak`at of Tawaf of Ka`ba)". (2:125) -2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed. -3. Once the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) made a united front against the Prophet (ﷺ) and I said to them, 'It may be if he (the Prophet) divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66:5).
Sahih al-Bukhari 402
In-book : Book 8, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 395  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH AGREED WITH UMAR ( The last prophet ) REGARDING THE ABOVE ?

@compton11.

The adhan , call of prayer , was also suggested by a man , UMAR , the last prophet of Allah .

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي نَافِعٌ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عُمَرَ، كَانَ يَقُولُ كَانَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ حِينَ قَدِمُوا الْمَدِينَةَ يَجْتَمِعُونَ فَيَتَحَيَّنُونَ الصَّلاَةَ، لَيْسَ يُنَادَى لَهَا، فَتَكَلَّمُوا يَوْمًا فِي ذَلِكَ، فَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ اتَّخِذُوا نَاقُوسًا مِثْلَ نَاقُوسِ النَّصَارَى‏.‏ وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ بَلْ بُوقًا مِثْلَ قَرْنِ الْيَهُودِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ أَوَلاَ تَبْعَثُونَ رَجُلاً يُنَادِي بِالصَّلاَةِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏
‏ يَا بِلاَلُ قُمْ فَنَادِ بِالصَّلاَةِ ‏"
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but `Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 604
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 2
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 578  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

UP UMAR ! THE LAST PROPGET OF ALLAH , WHO DEBUNKED MUHAMMAD'S CLAIM AS THE LAST PROPHET.

enilove:
@compton11.

The adhan , call of prayer , was also suggested by a man , UMAR , the last prophet of Allah .

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي نَافِعٌ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عُمَرَ، كَانَ يَقُولُ كَانَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ حِينَ قَدِمُوا الْمَدِينَةَ يَجْتَمِعُونَ فَيَتَحَيَّنُونَ الصَّلاَةَ، لَيْسَ يُنَادَى لَهَا، فَتَكَلَّمُوا يَوْمًا فِي ذَلِكَ، فَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ اتَّخِذُوا نَاقُوسًا مِثْلَ نَاقُوسِ النَّصَارَى‏.‏ وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ بَلْ بُوقًا مِثْلَ قَرْنِ الْيَهُودِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ أَوَلاَ تَبْعَثُونَ رَجُلاً يُنَادِي بِالصَّلاَةِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏
‏ يَا بِلاَلُ قُمْ فَنَادِ بِالصَّلاَةِ ‏"
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but `Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 604
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 2
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 578  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

UP UMAR ! THE LAST PROPGET OF ALLAH , WHO DEBUNKED MUHAMMAD'S CLAIM AS THE LAST PROPHET.

UP UMAR!

He wasn't a Trinitarian.

He was one of the pious Caliphs.

His Aljannat was guaranteed before his death.

R.A.

mhmsadyq:


UP UMAR!

He wasn't a Trinitarian.

He was one of the pious Caliphs.

His Aljannat was guaranteed before his death.

R.A.

Thank God you are a truthful Muslim .
But it means you agree that Muhammad was a liar.

enilove:
@compton11.

The adhan , call of prayer , was also suggested by a man , UMAR , the last prophet of Allah .

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي نَافِعٌ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عُمَرَ، كَانَ يَقُولُ كَانَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ حِينَ قَدِمُوا الْمَدِينَةَ يَجْتَمِعُونَ فَيَتَحَيَّنُونَ الصَّلاَةَ، لَيْسَ يُنَادَى لَهَا، فَتَكَلَّمُوا يَوْمًا فِي ذَلِكَ، فَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ اتَّخِذُوا نَاقُوسًا مِثْلَ نَاقُوسِ النَّصَارَى‏.‏ وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ بَلْ بُوقًا مِثْلَ قَرْنِ الْيَهُودِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ أَوَلاَ تَبْعَثُونَ رَجُلاً يُنَادِي بِالصَّلاَةِ‏.‏ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏
‏ يَا بِلاَلُ قُمْ فَنَادِ بِالصَّلاَةِ ‏"
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but `Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 604
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 2
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 578  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

UP UMAR ! THE LAST PROPGET OF ALLAH , WHO DEBUNKED MUHAMMAD'S CLAIM AS THE LAST PROPHET.

and judasi was a great prophet of Yahweh

enilove:

Thank God you are a truthful Muslim . But it means you agree that Muhammad was a liar.

Kafirs like you have always said so behind the keyboards.
Unfortunately for you, it has not halt Islam!

enilove:


Christianity was created by God.

evidence of where Yahweh instructed u to be Christians.

enilove:

This you can know through the signs and wonders God is doing in the lives of we the Christians .

hads,mumu so signs and wonders is what u respect like that?
even babalawos are doing it.

enilove:

Acts 3:6-10 KJV
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. [7] And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. [8] And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. [9] And all the people saw him walking and praising God: [10] And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him.

what a story!

How many hospital have u visit to cure the sickness?
How many corona victims have u cure?

enilove:

Jesus is God , as a Son of God , he is God like his Father.

where did Jesus said plus
how can Jesus that is God doesn't know the last hour?
And Jesus said
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent-john 17:3

enilove:

Allah must have read the Bible before attesting to its validity. Is Allah not the god that wrote the Torah ?

and Torah is Bible,right?


Valid Hun?

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


What happened there Mr man?

enilove:

If Allah says give carcass of animals to your neighbours , why questioning him ?

u haven't answer my question
Can u give carcass to foreigner as says by Bible?

Don't Dodge it.

enilove:

We are commanded to clap our hands and sing to our God in the Bible :

Psalm 47:1 KJV
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

who said that?

Solomon not Yahweh
The same Solomon said this
Psalm 137:9

Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.





And where were u commanded to be closing eyes.
Doing Christmas
And going to Church on Sunday?

enilove:

BACK TO THE ISSUE OF HIJAB.

back to the issue of clapping and singing.

enilove:

Why should Allah reveal revelations after a man has suggested the revelation ?

suggest wetin?

The thing they have been using before UMAR was even born.

enilove:

Is that God ? And what other revelation do you require after the evidence I showed you ?

stop fooling yourself here boy

enilove:

UMAR GAVE MUHAMMAD REVELATIONS AND SUGGESTED QURAN TO ALLAH , AS PER THE BELOW :

where is that written In The hadith?

enilove:

Hadith
Narrated `Umar (bin Al-Khattab):
My Lord agreed with me in three things: -1. I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers). So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two rak`at of Tawaf of Ka`ba)". (2:125) -2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed. -3. Once the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) made a united front against the Prophet (ﷺ) and I said to them, 'It may be if he (the Prophet) divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66:5).
Sahih al-Bukhari 402
In-book : Book 8, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 395  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

so his companions can't advise again?

The hadith is an indication that 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab was succesful in reaching these conclusions not through a direct revelation from Allah, but through strong knowledge of the religion and its principles.
He was companion of The prophet(saw) and there are so many things we are doing in islam that it is the companions that introduced and Allah and his messanger agree it.




ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH AGREED WITH UMAR ( The last prophet ) REGARDING THE ABOVE ?

[/quote]and u goin to going to deny that judasi is in heaven?


Mother of Moses and jesus that received revelations from God,they must be women prophet,right?

OkCornel:


When there’s a search engine or I can ask someone else for it? Waste of time...

Better things to ask the Holy Spirit for are for example;

1. Your purpose in life

2. The cure to COVID-19 or a fool proof way to prevent infections e.g specific meals or fruits or herbs to take...

Weightier issues, not all these trivial nonsense like asking for Bible passage reference...

Abi is the Holy Spirit a joke to you?

is joke cos it aint real.


Do holy usually overshadow u?

mhmsadyq:


Kafirs like you have always said so behind the keyboards.

Unfortunately for you, it has not halt Islam!

It is unfortunate that this very Islam will halt you from going to heaven , unless you abandon it and accept Jesus Christ as your saviour.

compton11:
evidence of where Yahweh instructed u to be Christians.
hads,mumu so signs and wonders is what u respect like that?
even babalawos are doing it.
what a story!

How many hospital have u visit to cure the sickness?
How many corona victims have u cure?

where did Jesus said plus
how can Jesus that is God doesn't know the last hour?
And Jesus said
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent-john 17:3
and Torah is Bible,right?
Valid Hun?

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1
In The same verse
King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1
This version even omitted the ag
JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.
What happened there Mr man?
u haven't answer my question
Can u give carcass to foreigner as says by Bible?
Don't Dodge it.
who said that?
Solomon not Yahweh
The same Solomon said this
Psalm 137:9

Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
And where were u commanded to be closing eyes.
Doing Christmas
And going to Church on Sunday?
back to the issue of clapping and singing.
suggest wetin?
The thing they have been using before UMAR was even born.
stop fooling yourself here boy
where is that written In The hadith?
so his companions can't advise again?

The hadith is an indication that 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab was succesful in reaching these conclusions not through a direct revelation from Allah, but through strong knowledge of the religion and its principles.
He was companion of The prophet(saw) and there are so many things we are doing in islam that it is the companions that introduced and Allah and his messanger agree it.

ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH AGREED WITH UMAR ( The last prophet ) REGARDING THE ABOVE ?

and u goin to going to deny that judasi is in heaven?
Mother of Moses and jesus that received revelations from God,they must be women prophet,right?

There is no problem in the book of Samuel you quoted . The sane with the book of psalm . Your problem is lack of understanding .

You can't know more than your Allah and Muhammad who gave their consent to the Bible as perfect , do you ?

Allah SWT said:
"Say, O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 68)

ABOUT THE HIJAB .

Umar had been telling Muhammad to tell his wives to be covering themselves but Muhammad rejected . He was forced to accept it when UMAR started making fun of Sauda , the wife of Muhammad , that Muhammad agreed. Is that a revelation or googlelation ?

Thank God you agreed that there are many things you Muslims do which were not from Allah but from man which Allah later agreed to .I too agree to this .This is very ridiculous and absurd. How can imperfect man be telling God the right things to do . Is that a true God ?
For example , the Issue of ADULT BREAST FEEDING :

Hadith
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported:

I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (ﷺ, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa.

Sahih Muslim 1453 e
In-book : Book 17, Hadith 37
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3428  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

Can you allow your wife to practice this ?

And why was it cancelled

compton11:
evidence of where Yahweh instructed u to be Christians.

hads,mumu so signs and wonders is what u respect like that?
even babalawos are doing it.


what a story!

How many hospital have u visit to cure the sickness?
How many corona victims have u cure?

where did Jesus said plus
how can Jesus that is God doesn't know the last hour?
And Jesus said
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent-john 17:3


and Torah is Bible,right?


Valid Hun?

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


What happened there Mr man?

u haven't answer my question
Can u give carcass to foreigner as says by Bible?

Don't Dodge it.

who said that?

Solomon not Yahweh
The same Solomon said this
Psalm 137:9

Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.





And where were u commanded to be closing eyes.
Doing Christmas
And going to Church on Sunday?

back to the issue of clapping and singing.

suggest wetin?

The thing they have been using before UMAR was even born.

stop fooling yourself here boy

where is that written In The hadith?

so his companions can't advise again?

The hadith is an indication that 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab was succesful in reaching these conclusions not through a direct revelation from Allah, but through strong knowledge of the religion and its principles.
He was companion of The prophet(saw) and there are so many things we are doing in islam that it is the companions that introduced and Allah and his messanger agree it.




ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH AGREED WITH UMAR ( The last prophet ) REGARDING THE ABOVE ?

and u goin to going to deny that judasi is in heaven?


Mother of Moses and jesus that received revelations from God,they must be women prophet,right?

Your question to enilove as to whether he can give carcass of an animal to a “foreigner” is just laughable.

Is Enilove an Israelite? If anything Enilove is the foreigner in the context of that scripture. The Torah is for the Israelites, not the gentiles.

enilove:


There is no problem in the book of Samuel you quoted .

only blind will say there is no problem,explain it to me

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


U see clearly that those three same verses and u said there is no problem

U must explain it ooooo

enilove:


The sane with the book of psalm . Your problem is lack of understanding .

Oya explain it to me then.

enilove:

You can't know more than your Allah and Muhammad who gave their consent to the Bible as perfect , do you ?

nigga bible?

The one that is filled with letters of Paul to Thessalonian people Galatians, Corinthians, Romans,Philemon, Thessalonians.

Is that what u tried to call a Scripture?

enilove:

Allah SWT said:
"Say, O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people."

so injeel and Torah is now Bible,abi?

So which one is Torah and injeel

66 books of Catholic
Or
73 books of Protestant?

enilove:

ABOUT THE HIJAB .

Umar had been telling Muhammad to tell his wives to be covering themselves but Muhammad rejected . He was forced to accept it when UMAR started making fun of Sauda , the wife of Muhammad , that Muhammad agreed. Is that a revelation or googlelation ?

nah nigga,he accepted after the ayat about it came.
Stop bringing what u have already been answered again.
We see evidence for hijab.

Where is your evidence for going to Church on Sunday?

Evidence of doing Christmas and Easter?

enilove:


Thank God you agreed that there are many things you Muslims do which were not from Allah but from man which Allah later agreed to .I too agree to this .

so what is bad in that?

Clapping and dancing in church,is it Yahweh that permitted and agreed to it?

enilove:

This is very ridiculous and absurd.

how is it ridiculous and absurd?

enilove:

How can imperfect man be telling God the right things to do .

where did they tell God ?

enilove:


Is that a true God ?

u mean the one that can't forgive people unless they sacrifice a whole human being?

enilove:

For example , the Issue of ADULT BREAST FEEDING :

Hadith
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported:

I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (ﷺ, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa.

Sahih Muslim 1453 e
In-book : Book 17, Hadith 37
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3428  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

the explanation for this hadith is here


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://daruliftaa.com/sacred-knowledge/clarification-of-hadith-about-the-suckling-of-a-grown-man/&ved=2ahUKEwjzn-fVyv3vAhWhqHEKHYrLC3IQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0CwKfwMm15f3nYb_bi0JGc&cshid=1618398406409

enilove:

Can you allow your wife to practice this ?

practise what?

enilove:

And why was it cancelled

what was cancelled?

OkCornel:


Your question to enilove as to whether he can give carcass of an animal to a “foreigner” is just laughable.

Is Enilove an Israelite? If anything Enilove is the foreigner in the context of that scripture. The Torah is for the Israelites, not the gentiles.

wow the Torah old testament was for isrealite but that same old testament is what u are using to collect tithles.

That is pathetic.

Dont forget that Jesus said he didn't came to abolish those law but to fulfil it

compton11:
wow the Torah old testament was for isrealite but that same old testament is what u are using to collect tithles.

That is pathetic.

Dont forget that Jesus said he didn't came to abolish those law but to fulfil it

I’ll ask you one very simple question, so you can put your logic and common sense to good use. That portion of the Old Testament you quoted to Enilove where God gave instructions to the Israelites to give carcass of animals to the strangers, is Enilove an Israelite or a stranger (gentile) in that scenario?


Let’s just check if your logic and common sense is in order based on your response to my question.

And to prove the Torah applied to Israelites alone and not the gentiles, read up Acts 15 and clear up your ignorance.

compton11:
wow the Torah old testament was for isrealite but that same old testament is what u are using to collect tithles.

That is pathetic.

Dont forget that Jesus said he didn't came to abolish those law but to fulfil it

Please read Romans 2 v 14 and find out who God gave the Mosaic laws to. It is not rocket science, unless you are devoid of this basic understanding.


And yes, tithing is fraud! If only you went through my previous posts and threads on tithing. So please don’t accuse me of that scam going on in the church no thanks to lying pastors!

Romans 2 v 14;

14 Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Cc: Compton11

Acts 15 v 1-21

1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.”

2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question.

3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad.

4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question.

7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.

8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.

9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them.

13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me.

14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles.

15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,

17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’ —

18 things known from long ago.

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.

20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

Dear Compton11, if you read Acts 15 v 1, this controversy started in a gentile city called Antioch (now in present day Syria)

1. Also bear in mind, if the Torah was meant for the gentiles to follow, why then did certain people from Judea (Israelites) have to go preach to the gentiles at Antioch they had to circumcise themselves and keep the laws of Moses to be saved? Refer to Acts 15 v 1 & 5

2. Check verse 10 where Peter clearly described the laws as a yoke “our ancestors” (the ancestors of the Israelites) could not bear, which some heartless Israelites were trying to impose on the gentiles.

3. Check verse 19 & 20 to see how this controversy was resolved by the Apostles after consulting the Holy Spirit.

In summary, the Torah was for the Jews only, never was it intended for the gentiles (strangers) to follow.

The only exception (barring dietary laws and some other laws I don’t have the luxury of time walking you through) was if these strangers were resident in the land of Israel (See Exodus 14 v 29)

And it’s common sense really. For example, a Nigerian who relocated to USA would not live there according to Nigerian laws, rather he would live according to the laws of the land he is resident which in this case is USA.

compton11:
only blind will say there is no problem,explain it to me

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1

JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

U see clearly that those three same verses and u said there is no problem

U must explain it ooooo

Oya explain it to me then.

nigga bible?

The one that is filled with letters of Paul to Thessalonian people Galatians, Corinthians, Romans,Philemon, Thessalonians.

Is that what u tried to call a Scripture?

so injeel and Torah is now Bible,abi?

So which one is Torah and injeel

66 books of Catholic
Or
73 books of Protestant?

nah nigga,he accepted after the ayat about it came.
Stop bringing what u have already been answered again.
We see evidence for hijab.

Where is your evidence for going to Church on Sunday?

Evidence of doing Christmas and Easter?

so what is bad in that?

Clapping and dancing in church,is it Yahweh that permitted and agreed to it?

how is it ridiculous and absurd?

where did they tell God ?
u mean the one that can't forgive people unless they sacrifice a whole human being?

the explanation for this hadith is here

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://daruliftaa.com/sacred-knowledge/clarification-of-hadith-about-the-suckling-of-a-grown-man/&ved=2ahUKEwjzn-fVyv3vAhWhqHEKHYrLC3IQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0CwKfwMm15f3nYb_bi0JGc&cshid=1618398406409

practise what?

what was cancelled?

Answer my questions b4 asking me any question .

Can you allow your wife to practice adult breast feeding?

When you have answered me , post your question and I will also answer you.

One question at a time.

enilove:

Answer my questions b4 asking me any question .

no problem

enilove:


Can you allow your wife to practice adult breast feeding?

No.
The reason for this hadith is in the link I posted and the kind of breast isn't the one u will put your mouth too.

enilove:

When you have answered me , post your question and I will also answer you.

One question at a time.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


What happened there Mr man?

OkCornel:
Romans 2 v 14;

14 Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Cc: Compton11

but Jesus wasn't for gentiles but to the jews

AntiChristian:


Answer the question if you know it. Na Bible verse o!

andrew 2 vs 3

OkCornel:


Please read Romans 2 v 14 and find out who God gave the Mosaic laws to. It is not rocket science, unless you are devoid of this basic understanding.

but Jesus never abolish but fulfilled it,so why would Paul a Roman be saying other things.


Do u believe in circumcision?

Circumcision is part of old law which everybody are doing now but Paul was against it

OkCornel:


And yes, tithing is fraud! If only you went through my previous posts and threads on tithing. So please don’t accuse me of that scam going on in the church no thanks to lying pastors!

I'm not accusing u of anything

OkCornel:


I’ll ask you one very simple question, so you can put your logic and common sense to good use. That portion of the Old Testament you quoted to Enilove where God gave instructions to the Israelites to give carcass of animals to the strangers, is Enilove an Israelite or a stranger (gentile) in that scenario?

now let me use that same logic to ask u questions.



Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel-matthew 15:24.

Are u part of the isrealite Jesus was talking about?

OkCornel:

Let’s just check if your logic and common sense is in order based on your response to my question.

And to prove the Torah applied to Israelites alone and not the gentiles, read up Acts 15 and clear up your ignorance.

Wow clapping and singing in Church was chose from same Torah u said it ain't apply mo more and u are doing it





1.Im the Lord thy God! Thou shalt have no other Gods but me!

2Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain!

3.Thou shalt keep the Sabbath Day holy!

4.Thou shalt honor father and mother!

5.Thou shalt not kill!

5.Thou shalt not commit adultery!

6.Thou shalt not steal!

7.Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor!

8.Do not let thyself lust after thy neighbor’s wife!
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!
The Lord’s Prayer


Bro all the old laws that I posted above,tell me which one u are not following there.

compton11:
but Jesus never abolish but fulfilled it,so why would Paul a Roman be saying other things.


Do u believe in circumcision?

Circumcision is part of old law which everybody are doing now but Paul was against it


I'm not accusing u of anything

Very good, and when the terms of a particular law (contract) has been fulfilled, is that law still binding on you?

Your answer is in Hebrews 7. I’ll head into that shortly.

compton11:
now let me use that same logic to ask u questions.



Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel-matthew 15:24.

Are u part of the isrealite Jesus was talking about?

Obviously not. Jesus’ earthly ministry was to the Israelites. However, after he resurrected...He gave a commission to the disciples to preach the message of the kingdom to everyone be it Jews or Gentiles.

See Matthew 28 v 18-20;

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

compton11:


Wow clapping and singing in Church was chose from same Torah u said it ain't apply mo more and u are doing it



1.Im the Lord thy God! Thou shalt have no other Gods but me!

2Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain!

3.Thou shalt keep the Sabbath Day holy!

4.Thou shalt honor father and mother!

5.Thou shalt not kill!

5.Thou shalt not commit adultery!

6.Thou shalt not steal!

7.Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor!

8.Do not let thyself lust after thy neighbor’s wife!
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!
The Lord’s Prayer


Bro all the old laws that I posted above,tell me which one u are not following there.

Lol, don’t make me laugh abeg. You think the Mosaic laws are the 10 commandments? The Mosaic laws is made up of 613 commandments! Do you obey each and everyone of them? I’ll bring some ridiculous ones and you tell us how it applies to a gentile like you and how you obey them.

Besides, men knew right from wrong before the 10 commandments (which is not even up to 5% of the Mosaic laws) were written and given to Moses. Cain didn’t need to know any commandment to murder is a sin. Reuben did not need any commandment to know sleeping with his father’s maid is a sin. Abraham and Lot didn’t need any commandment to know idolatry is a sin.

Your point on the 10 commandments is dead on arrival.

Please tell us how the 613 laws of Moses applies to Christians today biko.