rottenPussy:
How strong is the “Iron” in your “Galaxy”, tungsten?

it's as strong as Thor's hammer

Focusmind:
And yet, Nigerians with their over bloated ego will be challenging SA in terms of development. Until you travel out of this country, you wont understand the extent of damage our leaders have done to us.

People are here now shouting for another typical politician to take over in 2023 and the same thing continues.

[b]TMKSouth, please tell us that SA have left us behind. [/b]Corruption has finished our country, Nigeria

Hi Focusmind, thanx for the thoughtful contribution. I'm always reluctant to lecture other countries unless I'm dealing with a troll, but I think SA development is obvious to everyone.

Are u talking about Tinubu for 2023? I've seen the name around lately on the forum, but I'm still not clued up on who he is. I've noticed a lot of hype around your VP Osibanjo though, especially the first time Buhari left him in charge. Is he perhaps your best hope for the future??

TMKsouth:


Hi Focusmind, thanx for the thoughtful contribution. I'm always reluctant to lecture other countries unless I'm dealing with a troll, but I think SA development is obvious to everyone.

Are u talking about Tinubu for 2023? I've seen the name around lately on the forum, but I'm still not clued up on who he is. I've noticed a lot of hype around your VP Osibanjo though, especially the first time Buhari left him in charge. Is he perhaps your best hope for the future??

TMKsouth, All these people you mentioned cannot impact positively on the people or implement policies that would bring Nigeria to the same level of development with SA. The political system in this country makes it extremely difficult for those with growth-oriented policies to contest for elections. The electoral system here is too hostile to progressives and those with good development agenda.

I always get upset when I see my fellow country men argue with you, comparing SA to Nigeria. We have all the resources to at least near SA in terms of infrastructural development, but the inbuilt corruption and its tendencies on our politicians would not allow them to build benefiting infrastructure for this country.

Honestly, other countries in Africa have left us behind but we will keep fooling ourselves here that we are making progress.

All our corrupt leaders no go know peace aswear

Focusmind:


TMKsouth, All these people you mentioned cannot impact positively on the people or implement policies that would bring Nigeria to the same level of development with SA. The political system in this country makes it extremely difficult for those with growth-oriented policies to contest for elections. The electoral system here is too hostile to progressives and those with good development agenda.

I always get upset when I see my fellow country men argue with you, comparing SA to Nigeria. We have all the resources to at least near SA in terms of infrastructural development, but the inbuilt corruption and its tendencies on our politicians would not allow them to build benefiting infrastructure for this country.

Honestly, other countries in Africa have left us behind but we will keep fooling ourselves here that we are making progress.

Wow, this is such a tough one. Unfortunately, the path to a resolution will be a long term one, you know like with apartheid in SA, it took decades to dismantle it.

From what I've heard from South Africans who have been to Nigeria and noticed the lack of public infrastructure is that you've become a selfish society, where many people only lookout for themselves. It's for that reason your politicians and industry leaders fail to act in the common good, which is our principle down here of Ubuntu - that you can't leave other people behind, you move forward together. I've noticed it's for this reason Nigerians prefer conservative/capitalist American presidents like Trump, while we in SA are overwhelmingly sympathetic to the socialist ideals of the Democrats over there. So it's obvious we don't think alike.

So I'm not saying our system is the best, but it appears to be the more sympathetic one, that's why we build infrastructure for the common good. It's absolutely mind-boggling that various Nigerian governments have failed to build at least one quality hospital that your leaders can patronize instead of traveling abroad. I can't even begin to attempt analysing that. But the progressives in your country should not stop exerting pressure, one day there'll be a breakthrough.

TMKsouth:


Wow, this is such a tough one. Unfortunately, the path to a resolution will be a long term one, you know like with apartheid in SA, it took decades to dismantle it.

From what I've heard from South Africans who have been to Nigeria and noticed the lack of public infrastructure is that you've become a selfish society, where many people only lookout for themselves. It's for that reason your politicians and industry leaders fail to act in the common good, which is our principle down here of Ubuntu - that you can't leave other people behind, you move forward together. I've noticed it's for this reason Nigerians prefer conservative/capitalist American presidents like Trump, while we in SA are overwhelmingly sympathetic to the socialist ideals of the Democrats over there. So it's obvious we don't think alike.

So I'm not saying our system is the best, but it appears to be the more sympathetic one, that's why we build infrastructure for the common good. It's absolutely mind-boggling that various Nigerian governments have failed to build at least one quality hospital that your leaders can patronize instead of traveling abroad. I can't even begin to attempt analysing that. But the progressives in your country should not stop exerting pressure, one day there'll be a breakthrough.

Nigeria's problem is systemic and structural and it is not something that could easily be dismantled.

The ineptitude in governance contributed in making Nigerians to be selfish. Our government has made the concept of "everyman to his own" popular and people have bought the concept. That's why the citizens struggles to provide their own electricity, education, security, water and housing. In the process of trying to provide all these amenities for themselves and their families, selfishness is bound to come in as citizens try to outwit one another to gain access to resources.

Honestly, our situation is very pathetic and my heart goes to the extremely struggling families.

Focusmind:


Nigeria's problem is systemic and structural and it is not something that could easily be dismantled.

The ineptitude in governance contributed in making Nigerians to be selfish. Our government has made the concept of "everyman to his own" popular and people have bought the concept. That's why the citizens struggles to provide their own electricity, education, security, water and housing. In the process of trying to provide all these amenities for themselves and their families, selfishness is bound to come in as citizens try to outwit one another to gain access to resources.

Honestly, our situation is very pathetic and my heart goes to the extremely struggling families.

Wow, you described it best, this is exactly what my SA friends were trying to say. My heart just broke for all the good and innocent people in your country while reading this, including you - u sound cool. Keep strong, nothing lasts forever.

Focusmind:


TMKsouth, All these people you mentioned cannot impact positively on the people or implement policies that would bring Nigeria to the same level of development with SA. The political system in this country makes it extremely difficult for those with growth-oriented policies to contest for elections. The electoral system here is too hostile to progressives and those with good development agenda.

I always get upset when I see my fellow country men argue with you, comparing SA to Nigeria. We have all the resources to at least near SA in terms of infrastructural development, but the inbuilt corruption and its tendencies on our politicians would not allow them to build benefiting infrastructure for this country.

Honestly, other countries in Africa have left us behind but we will keep fooling ourselves here that we are making progress.

its really annoying when they keep comparing the two nations, Nigeria has a long way to go, its best we focus all our energy on getting it right rather than battling other nations, some think south Africa is an enemy yet they fail to realize the biggest enemy are the very same stupid leaders they have.