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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 1:50am On May 10, 2021
Janosky:

grin grin
Madam, don't get me wrong.
What I mean is this:
Matthew 6:1-4 governs our humanitarian deeds.
Even in our publications, you will see very scanty details of our relief aid activities.
You will not see the whole A to Z, which I had earlier explained to you in my previous post.
In our place of meetings, JWs don't go from seat to seat with an offering box nor do we place the box near the pulpit for all to see & know who goes there to make contributions.

Neither do we announce to the congregation the name of the highest donors or sing their praises.
Matthew 6:1-4 , Jesus says Mbanu !!
grin
The level of what you disclose to CNN or BBC is what they release. So, if you choose not to tell them a whole lot of details, they cant publish such.

See, Max did the same thing ....always digressing. We arent talking about who Max called pastorpreneurs here.

Actually, you made a point with box in the front, ushers carrying them around. But wait! They too may have reasons for it. Why dont you ask them to understand before judging them. At least I'm asking you now. You are doing exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Here is my question again. Are you saying that since the creation of JW, there is no single person suspended from trying to enrich himself from the church?

So, can we conclude that using BBC or CNN is not a crime or sin, but what we should try to just use it as a tool for spreading the word instead of showing off?

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Janosky: 1:51am On May 10, 2021
BassReeves:
Brah, you want to teach big momma how to suck eggs.
It's our work, soft work, its what we breathe, 2 Timothy 2:15, John 14:26, John 16:13 and all

John 1:1 In the beginning ( reference to beginning of creation.. Genesis 1:1.)
The word was God = Greek the word was towards/facing the God. (Meaning Jesus is with another different entity)

The word was God (in essence not same person he was with).
Greek - the word was a divine being , godlike,
a god.

In Greek John 14:1, Jesus established he's clearly distinct from the God.
The God, his Father.
The word, Jesus.
grin grin

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Janosky: 2:49am On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

The level of what you disclose to CNN or BBC is what they release. So, if you choose not to tell them a whole lot of details, they cant publish such.

See, Max did the same thing ....always digressing. We arent talking about who Max called pastorpreneurs here.

Actually, you made a point with box in the front, ushers carrying them around. But wait! They too may have reasons for it. Why dont you ask them to understand before judging them. At least I'm asking you now. You are doing exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Here is my question again. Are you saying that since the creation of JW, there is no single person suspended from trying to enrich himself from the church?


So, can we conclude that using BBC or CNN is not a crime or sin, but what we should try to just use it as a tool for spreading the word instead of showing off?
To your question, we are not judging anyone, Matthew 6:1-4 is doing the judgement.
We go talk am as e be..
JWs are not greedy or dishonest.
Transparency & prudence is the process for our financial management. 1Tim3:8-9 & Titus 1:7.

However, anyone found wanting is disciplined and removed from such position of responsibility. 1 Corinthians 5:10-13

Please read and get better clarity of what JWs do on these matters/ finances.
(We also individually help people in need but in keeping with Jesus instructions @ Matt 6:1-4, our goodwill is only known by the recipients & by God.).

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Assist With Disaster Relief?
Yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses often help when disaster strikes. We provide practical relief assistance to both Witnesses and non-Witnesses, in harmony with the Bible’s instruction at Galatians 6:10: “Let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith.” We also try to give the emotional and spiritual support that victims sorely need at such times.—2 Corinthians 1:3, 4.

Organization
After a disaster, the elders of the congregations in the affected area try to contact all who are associated with those congregations to see if they are safe and to find out what help they might need. The elders then report the results of their survey and initial relief efforts to the local branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

If the need for relief is beyond what the congregations in the area can provide, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses arranges to supply what is needed. This is similar to the way early Christians cared for one another during a time of famine. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4) The local branch office appoints Disaster Relief Committees to organize and direct the effort. Witnesses from other areas volunteer their time and resources to help out.—Proverbs 17:17.

Funding
One of the ways donations sent to the branch offices of Jehovah’s Witnesses are used is to relieve victims of disasters. (Acts 11:27-30; 2 Corinthians 8:13-15) Since the work is performed by unpaid volunteers, the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses. We are careful with all donations.—2 Corinthians 8:20.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Janosky: 3:04am On May 10, 2021
When Disaster Strikes, Love Moves Us to Action
"In times of need, Jehovah’s Witnesses provide assistance to fellow believers and others. They do so as an expression of love, an identifying mark of true Christians.​—John 13:35.

What follows is a partial list of the help given over a 12-month period ending in mid-2012. The list does not include the spiritual and emotional care that always accompanies our efforts. Disaster Relief Committees appointed by our branch offices organized much of the assistance. In addition, local congregations regularly shared in the help given.



Japan

Japan: On March 11, 2011, an earthquake and resulting tsunami that, all told, affected hundreds of thousands of people struck northern Japan. Jehovah’s Witnesses throughout the world generously contributed money, skills, and resources to assist in the recovery. Watch our video about earthquake relief efforts in Japan.

Brazil: Floods, landslides, and mudslides resulted in the death of hundreds of people. In response, Jehovah’s Witnesses dispatched to the affected region 42 tons of nonperishable food items, 20,000 bottles of water, 10 tons of clothing, and 5 tons of cleaning supplies, as well as medicine and other items.

Congo (Brazzaville): When an ammunition dump blew up, the homes of 4 of Jehovah’s Witnesses were destroyed and the homes of 28 other Witnesses were damaged. Food and clothing were given to those affected, and local Witnesses took in families affected by the disaster.

Congo (Kinshasa): Medicine was provided for victims of cholera. Clothing was donated to those affected by flooding caused by torrential rain. Medical help, seed for planting, and tons of clothing were given to those in refugee camps.

Venezuela: Heavy rains caused floods and mudslides. Disaster relief committees helped 288 affected Witnesses. More than 50 new homes were built. Additionally, relief committees are helping those whose homes are threatened by the rising water level of Lake Valencia.


Philippines

Philippines: Typhoons brought floods to part of the country. The branch sent foodstuffs and clothing to the victims, and local Witnesses helped clean up after the waters subsided.

Canada: Following a major forest fire in Alberta, the Slave Lake Congregation received a sizable donation from Witnesses in the region to help with the cleanup. Because not all of the money was needed, the congregation donated more than half of the sum to help victims of disaster in other parts of the world.

Côte d’Ivoire: Goods, lodging, and medical care were provided to those in need before, during, and after a war that the country experienced.

Fiji: Because of severe flooding from heavy rains, most of the 192 Witness families that were affected lost their farms, their source of food and income. Relief food supplies were provided for them.

Ghana: Flood victims in the eastern region of the country were provided with food, seed, and replacement housing.

United States: Tornadoes damaged 66 homes belonging to Witnesses in three states and destroyed 12 homes of Witnesses. Though most of the homeowners had insurance, funds were made available to help with the recovery effort.

Argentina: Congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses helped those in the south of the country whose homes were damaged by volcanic ash.

Mozambique: Food was supplied to more than 1,000 people affected by drought.

Nigeria: Two dozen Witnesses who were injured in a serious bus accident were provided with financial help. Assistance was also given to many in the north of the country who were rendered homeless as a result of ethnic religious clashes.

Benin: Medicine, clothing, mosquito nets, fresh water, and accommodations were provided for victims of severe flooding.


Dominican Republic

Dominican Republic: Following Hurricane Irene, local congregations helped with house repairs and material aid.

Ethiopia: In two areas of drought and in one area of flooding, funds were provided to meet the needs of those affected.

Kenya: Relief funds were provided for victims of drought.

Malawi: Assistance was given to those living in Dzaleka refugee camp.

Nepal: A landslide severely damaged the home of a Witness. A temporary home was provided for her, and assistance was given by the local congregation.

Papua New Guinea: Arsonists burned down eight homes belonging to Witnesses. Arrangements were made to rebuild them.

Romania: Some Witnesses lost their homes as a result of flooding. Assistance was provided to help rebuild them.

Mali: From neighboring Senegal, funds were given to some who lacked food because of a bad harvest that was caused by drought.

Sierra Leone: Witness doctors from France gave medical help to Jehovah’s Witnesses living in previously war-torn areas.

Thailand: Disastrous floods did much damage in several provinces. Relief teams repaired and cleaned 100 homes and 6 Kingdom Halls.

Czech Republic: After floods damaged several homes in the Czech Republic, Witnesses in nearby Slovakia helped in relief efforts.

Sri Lanka: Most disaster-relief work in connection with a tsunami there has been completed.

Sudan: Food, clothing, shoes, and plastic sheets were sent to Jehovah’s Witnesses who have been displaced because of fighting in the country.

Tanzania: During heavy flooding, 14 families lost their belongings. The congregations in the area donated clothes and household items. One house was rebuilt.

Zimbabwe: Drought has resulted in hunger in one area of the country. Food and money have been given to those affected.

Burundi: Relief assistance, including medical care, is being given to refugees."

Cc: PeaceJoyLove, please read & compare with your experiences in relation to
Matthew 6:1-4.
You can access this content on our online site. When you Google the topic at the top...
Shalom
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 4:39am On May 10, 2021
BassReeves:
If you want to continue this discussion, make sure you give your answers back in the same numbered sequence, format and style the questions are asked. Dont generalise and don't hid your responses in a jumbled up replies. Now please give your answer in the same numbered way the five questions were asked you

John 1:1-2
'1In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ),
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.
2He was [continually existing] in the beginning [co-eternally] with God.
'

You're wet behind the ears, and so I am not surprised you're underperforming. Watch this carefully and be at full alert, as if you do, maybe the penny will drop for you

Teacher: How old is your father?
Kid: He is 6 years
Teacher: What? How is this possible?
Kid: He became father only when I was born

Lol, the Father had no beginning, so please read John 1 v 1 slowly and tell us who had a beginning there. Was it the Father? Or was it the son cheesy

Please tell us who existed before who.

Hint: The Father.

John 14 v 28;

28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 5:42am On May 10, 2021
Since Jesus is the Father and The Son according to Bassreeves, then Jesus knows when the end of the world shall be;

Matthew 24 v 36;
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

But the above verse shows even Jesus does not know when the world will end!

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 5:47am On May 10, 2021
Another one for Bassreeves, perhaps... James the younger brother of Jesus was lying here;

James 1 v 13;
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

However, the last time I checked... the Son of God was tempted by Satan;

Matthew 4 v 1;
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil

It’s either Jesus is not the Father or Satan is no longer evil.

How do we reconcile both na cheesy

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 6:54am On May 10, 2021
Janosky:

To your question, we are not judging anyone, Matthew 6:1-4 is doing the judgement.
We go talk am as e be..
JWs are not greedy or dishonest.
Transparency & prudence is the process for our financial management. 1Tim3:8-9 & Titus 1:7.

However, anyone found wanting is disciplined and removed from such position of responsibility. 1 Corinthians 5:10-13

Please read and get better clarity of what JWs do on these matters/ finances.
(We also individually help people in need but in keeping with Jesus instructions @ Matt 6:1-4, our goodwill is only known by the recipients & by God.).

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Assist With Disaster Relief?
Yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses often help when disaster strikes. We provide practical relief assistance to both Witnesses and non-Witnesses, in harmony with the Bible’s instruction at Galatians 6:10: “Let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith.” We also try to give the emotional and spiritual support that victims sorely need at such times.—2 Corinthians 1:3, 4.

Organization
After a disaster, the elders of the congregations in the affected area try to contact all who are associated with those congregations to see if they are safe and to find out what help they might need. The elders then report the results of their survey and initial relief efforts to the local branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

If the need for relief is beyond what the congregations in the area can provide, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses arranges to supply what is needed. This is similar to the way early Christians cared for one another during a time of famine. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4) The local branch office appoints Disaster Relief Committees to organize and direct the effort. Witnesses from other areas volunteer their time and resources to help out.—Proverbs 17:17.

Funding
One of the ways donations sent to the branch offices of Jehovah’s Witnesses are used is to relieve victims of disasters. (Acts 11:27-30; 2 Corinthians 8:13-15) Since the work is performed by unpaid volunteers, the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses. We are careful with all donations.—2 Corinthians 8:20.


Janosky:
When Disaster Strikes, Love Moves Us to Action
"In times of need, Jehovah’s Witnesses provide assistance to fellow believers and others. They do so as an expression of love, an identifying mark of true Christians.​—John 13:35.

What follows is a partial list of the help given over a 12-month period ending in mid-2012. The list does not include the spiritual and emotional care that always accompanies our efforts. Disaster Relief Committees appointed by our branch offices organized much of the assistance. In addition, local congregations regularly shared in the help given.



Japan

Japan: On March 11, 2011, an earthquake and resulting tsunami that, all told, affected hundreds of thousands of people struck northern Japan. Jehovah’s Witnesses throughout the world generously contributed money, skills, and resources to assist in the recovery. Watch our video about earthquake relief efforts in Japan.

Brazil: Floods, landslides, and mudslides resulted in the death of hundreds of people. In response, Jehovah’s Witnesses dispatched to the affected region 42 tons of nonperishable food items, 20,000 bottles of water, 10 tons of clothing, and 5 tons of cleaning supplies, as well as medicine and other items.

Congo (Brazzaville): When an ammunition dump blew up, the homes of 4 of Jehovah’s Witnesses were destroyed and the homes of 28 other Witnesses were damaged. Food and clothing were given to those affected, and local Witnesses took in families affected by the disaster.

Congo (Kinshasa): Medicine was provided for victims of cholera. Clothing was donated to those affected by flooding caused by torrential rain. Medical help, seed for planting, and tons of clothing were given to those in refugee camps.

Venezuela: Heavy rains caused floods and mudslides. Disaster relief committees helped 288 affected Witnesses. More than 50 new homes were built. Additionally, relief committees are helping those whose homes are threatened by the rising water level of Lake Valencia.


Philippines

Philippines: Typhoons brought floods to part of the country. The branch sent foodstuffs and clothing to the victims, and local Witnesses helped clean up after the waters subsided.

Canada: Following a major forest fire in Alberta, the Slave Lake Congregation received a sizable donation from Witnesses in the region to help with the cleanup. Because not all of the money was needed, the congregation donated more than half of the sum to help victims of disaster in other parts of the world.

Côte d’Ivoire: Goods, lodging, and medical care were provided to those in need before, during, and after a war that the country experienced.

Fiji: Because of severe flooding from heavy rains, most of the 192 Witness families that were affected lost their farms, their source of food and income. Relief food supplies were provided for them.

Ghana: Flood victims in the eastern region of the country were provided with food, seed, and replacement housing.

United States: Tornadoes damaged 66 homes belonging to Witnesses in three states and destroyed 12 homes of Witnesses. Though most of the homeowners had insurance, funds were made available to help with the recovery effort.

Argentina: Congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses helped those in the south of the country whose homes were damaged by volcanic ash.

Mozambique: Food was supplied to more than 1,000 people affected by drought.

Nigeria: Two dozen Witnesses who were injured in a serious bus accident were provided with financial help. Assistance was also given to many in the north of the country who were rendered homeless as a result of ethnic religious clashes.

Benin: Medicine, clothing, mosquito nets, fresh water, and accommodations were provided for victims of severe flooding.


Dominican Republic

Dominican Republic: Following Hurricane Irene, local congregations helped with house repairs and material aid.

Ethiopia: In two areas of drought and in one area of flooding, funds were provided to meet the needs of those affected.

Kenya: Relief funds were provided for victims of drought.

Malawi: Assistance was given to those living in Dzaleka refugee camp.

Nepal: A landslide severely damaged the home of a Witness. A temporary home was provided for her, and assistance was given by the local congregation.

Papua New Guinea: Arsonists burned down eight homes belonging to Witnesses. Arrangements were made to rebuild them.

Romania: Some Witnesses lost their homes as a result of flooding. Assistance was provided to help rebuild them.

Mali: From neighboring Senegal, funds were given to some who lacked food because of a bad harvest that was caused by drought.

Sierra Leone: Witness doctors from France gave medical help to Jehovah’s Witnesses living in previously war-torn areas.

Thailand: Disastrous floods did much damage in several provinces. Relief teams repaired and cleaned 100 homes and 6 Kingdom Halls.

Czech Republic: After floods damaged several homes in the Czech Republic, Witnesses in nearby Slovakia helped in relief efforts.

Sri Lanka: Most disaster-relief work in connection with a tsunami there has been completed.

Sudan: Food, clothing, shoes, and plastic sheets were sent to Jehovah’s Witnesses who have been displaced because of fighting in the country.

Tanzania: During heavy flooding, 14 families lost their belongings. The congregations in the area donated clothes and household items. One house was rebuilt.

Zimbabwe: Drought has resulted in hunger in one area of the country. Food and money have been given to those affected.

Burundi: Relief assistance, including medical care, is being given to refugees."

Cc: PeaceJoyLove, please read & compare with your experiences in relation to
Matthew 6:1-4.
You can access this content on our online site. When you Google the topic at the top...
Shalom

Oh! This is excellent the way you have written it. Fantastic.
But see even the holiest man will write frauds perfectly like humanitarianism. Frauds cannot be detected with internal audits. Only external audits can do it. So, I applaud you that at least you do the following, but to say that the financial statement your church has is 100% accurate is like believing the devil created the heaven and the earth. Fraud is everywhere.

Also, other churches do these things too. And if they choose to publish it on CNN or BCC fine. Publishing is publishing. What is the difference between the two? And what is the main reason you think your services to humanity are better than others?

If we have to quantify how you give, your whole donations is a tiny fraction to what Bill and Miranda Gates Foundation has done. Yet, these couples do not even serve God in anyway. Would you say their giving is nothing? Those who received Polio vaccination in the North (polio is officially kicked out of Nigeria) know how they benefitted from it. Of course, CNN, BBC, and the rest louded it so much. But does it matter? The most important thing is that things are done there, and polio has been eradicated from many parts of the world.

Now, I am not saying the "givings" of Bill and Miranda are acceptable to God because I do not have the financial details and the process. Likewise, I do not have the details of yours. I will even rather believe Bill and Miranda more than you because they allowed external audit (not saying there is no fraud). Of course that you keep yours a secret and your kind do everything because outsiders are rags to you. So, I can say that JW are doing great. You arent transparent. But the reality is that I do not believe you. I only heard you and it's fine. I do not believe because you do not make me believe you. Why? You are too secretive. And this is an attribute of cultism.

Well, I am not saying you are because I do not know yet. But I am just curious why everything about you is secret.

So bro, I thank you for breaking down how you gather fund and use it. It is good. But there is nothing special in all you have listed. I see it as just a group of people trying to help the world and making it a better place just like others. While I appreciate your work, I also appreciate others. But you do not appreciate others like the pharisees. Yours is the best. Your giving is the best. Your worship is the best. Your kingdoms are the best. Your dress patterns are the best. Your feeding patterns are the best. Hmmmmm.... This is where your denomination has got it wrong. You are not the best because with all these things listed, if we use it as a fraction of all the total service to humanity in this world, yours may not be up to 0.1%. So, let others stop and let JW do it alone, lol.....let us see what will be of this world.

JW members should learn to appreciate others. Learn to see the good in others. Learn to accept where you are wrong. The Ceaser of this world you see as evil guides you and protects you. As evil as the Nigerian govt is, if security is broken down finally, you and your members cannot protect yourselves. Yet, you do not see good things in collaborating with government other than calling it Cesaer. Na waoooo! Can your elders secure all members if war begins in Nigeria? Learn to appreciate government and get involved to make government a better place. You have this world now. Later you will have what you believe in. But saying you are not of the world while you are enjoying the benefits of this world says a lot about you.

Guy, you get brain na. Even these things were used to brainwash members a century ago, you are in 2021. Bro ha ba! Why una dey dull yourself? You don fall my hands. Sit down and look at these issues well. Tear the veils covering your eyes.

Sit down bro. Just think about everything. Seriously, you will find you have been collaborating with others. Trust me. The only thing you suppose to do is to appreciate others too instead of making yourself the all in all. This is the main reason I opened this thread.

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 7:55am On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

I am happy to hear this. Nice. But wait. What is the meaning of "should care only for the ones amongst us"? As in those who are JW members only? Or among us on this earth which means in the whole world?

Like has been said earlier, we are more concerned about those in our spiritual family. If other religious organizations follow Jesus as they claim, you won’t be picking holes in the comments of Janosky, Max because then those so-called Christians would also have a spiritual family to run to in times of distress. Mark 10:28-30

Talking about assisting others in the world aside of the relief work that’s focused on our fellow believers, that’s totally up to conscience of each JW to do that(Matthew 6:2) but such a person has to be extremely careful because showing off material wealth can attract hatred to the person(1John 2:16) and even those worldly persons whom he is helping will want to seek ways to outdo their helper because they may be just disabled or poor but that doesn’t mean they’re good persons at heart so that’s why each of us exercise caution and moreso, that’s the reason why I said we focus more on those in our spiritual family so the world can take care of its own(John 15:19) while we will take care of ours. James 1:27

Oh and I read through the thread and that your argument about Jehovah’s Witnesses making money off unrighteous people is just you beating up a dead horse because even the apostle Paul, Aquila and Priscilla were making money off unrighteous persons from their tent-making business. Acts 18:3

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by BassReeves: 8:12am On May 10, 2021
Janosky:
John 1:1 In the beginning ( reference to beginning of creation.. Genesis 1:1.)
The word was God = Greek the word was towards/facing the God. (Meaning Jesus is with another different entity)

The word was God (in essence not same person he was with).
Greek - the word was a divine being, godlike,
a god.

In Greek John 14:1, Jesus established he's clearly distinct from the God.
The God, his Father.
The word, Jesus.
grin grin
You surely never cease to amaze me with how you lose focus. I can tell you at what moment in time a H2O becomes liquid water, and what moment in time H2O becomes, vapour or steam water or even when H2O becomes solid ice water. Each stage or transformation are distinct from each other, but you never can take it from them, that they each aren't H2O

1. At what moment in time did God become Father?
2. At what moment in time did the Word, God become Jesus Christ?
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by BassReeves: 8:12am On May 10, 2021
OkCornel:
Lol, the Father had no beginning, so please read John 1 v 1 slowly and tell us who had a beginning there. Was it the Father? Or was it the son cheesy

Please tell us who existed before who.

Hint: The Father.

John 14 v 28;

28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I

OkCornel:
Since Jesus is the Father and The Son according to Bassreeves, then Jesus knows when the end of the world shall be;

Matthew 24 v 36;
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

But the above verse shows even Jesus does not know when the world will end!

OkCornel:
Another one for Bassreeves, perhaps... James the younger brother of Jesus was lying here;

James 1 v 13;
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

However, the last time I checked... the Son of God was tempted by Satan;

Matthew 4 v 1;
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil

It’s either Jesus is not the Father or Satan is no longer evil.

How do we reconcile both na cheesy
"Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God;
nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.
"
- John 8:42

"Exerchomai" is the Greek original word translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from Jesus proceeded forth and came from.

Janosky and OkCornel, Jesus Christ is God and even god sef, especially if that's how or a way Janosky understands to partly put it.

OkCornel, fyi, I am not implying that Jesus and God are the same entity, but I am emphatically saying that Jesus and God are the same entity.

Janosky and OkCornel, lets put aside the Teacher and kid scenario I earlier shared, but listen and watch this explanation. I put on different attire colours to reflect my mood and image I am trying to project across. I could put on a red dress to make a statement that I am fiery, vibrant and lively. The colours are not me, they are images reflecting certain aspects of me. It's the same with God, the maleness and femaleness is not God, they are just constructs made in the image of God. God really isnt male nor female

Now we all know what kind of image one is projecting when wearing black colours, it could be for mourning or for trying to look sexy

About the famous saying "the only begotten" this means the only person uniquely gotten this way. The phrase has nothing to do with God biologically giving birth to Jesus, as a mother, like women do and so not having an existence before being incarnated

Janosky and OkCornel, God is formless, as you would know and agree. God is a Spirit, and so has no form. God however does have masculine and feminine distinctive personalities plus characteristics associated with man and woman. Yeah?

Before either of youse step and slip on my "God is formless" banana skin comment, let me make myself clearer with the comment, by adding to it, that God is shapeless and formless like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. When you pour water into a drum, it becomes the drum of water. That is why when Moses asked God who should he say sent him, if asked by the Israelites, God said to him, say, I AM I AM sent you.

I AM I AM, in that narrative, means I shall be that I shall be, also means whatever it is necessary for God to be, that, God will be. God willl be a pillar of cloud in the day and become a pillar of fire to give them light at night. God is formless, yet God can take on any form. I know it sounds like an oxymoron thing to say it that way, but God, though truly is formless, can manifest Himself in any form, just as in that Nebucadnezzer fiery furnace and etcetera
Think of God, this way, H20, sent itself into the world. H20 caused and allowed itself to be visible as solid ice.

Christ cannot share the same body with God the Father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God, projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God

Though Jesus was God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to.
Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, His Son

Janosky and OkCornel, God can send Himself, did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ. God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him.

Its often said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God looked for someone who could build walls or looked for someone to stand in the breach in His presence on behalf of the world so that it won't be destroyed, but He found no one and so God is lumbered with, doing a classic Do-It-Yourself by sending Himself to carry out the redemptive work.

This will explain what the bible said and/or is saying about "begotten" The word translated as "begotten", is the greek word "monogene" "Monogene", means, one and only or better still, one of a kind

Now the word "monogene", is a combination of the root words: "mono" (one or only) and "genos" (of a class or kind) hence "begotten", in the context, or "monogene" in the context means "the only of its kind"

Now, "monogene" occurred also, when similarly used over Isaac, and that is where and when Isaac was referred to, as only son, even when Abraham already had an older son, Ishmael

Isaac was unique, was one and only or one of a kind son. Unique in the sense that, an impotent man and menopaused woman had a child, the promised son, Isaac (i.e. child in a class of its own, this miracle never again has been repeated)

To just clear each other, "begotten" in the Jesus' context isn’t about procreation or some fantasied sexual intercourse

Jesus, is the last Adam, and second man. The first man Adam became a living soul, whereas, Jesus, the last Adam, became a life-giving spirit

The first man, Adam, is of the earth, earthy, came from earth; while the second man, Jesus Christ is from heaven, came from heaven. Alleluia.

"And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge,
and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none
(i.e. I looked for someone who might rebuild the wall of righteousness that guards the land.
I searched for someone to stand in the gap in the wall so I wouldn’t have to destroy the land, but I found no one.)
"
- Ezekiel 22:30

"He saw that there was no man—He was amazed that there was no one—to intercede;
so His own arm brought salvation, and His own righteousness sustained Him.
"
- Isaiah 59:16

"I was amazed to see that no one intervened to help the oppressed.
So I myself stepped in to save them with my strong arm, and my wrath sustained me
(i.e. I looked, but there was no one to help; I was shocked because there was no one offering support.
So my right arm accomplished deliverance or achieved salvation for me, my raging anger drove me on)
"
- Isaiah 63:5

Janosky and OkCornel, you must have quite a lot of times, heard the saying that "If you want something done right, do it yourself", well none, nobody, no angel out of the whole angelic hosts of heaven, nor no man out of the whole world wide, offered to accept the challenge to help man get returned back to man's original status before the fall, so God resorted to DIY

Janosky and OkCornel, you know that Christ, means Saviour, right?. So if you do, how then do suppose God will be able to pull this off this God's redemptive work, if Christ isnt God and man, hmm? Be good lads and give this some thought Janosky and OkCornel

"Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple,
Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming,” Says the LORD of hosts.
"
Malachi 3:1

Of course, Jesus is an angel too, Malachi 3:1 confirms Him being a Messenger. This is God sending Himself on an errand. Alleluia.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 8:41am On May 10, 2021
DappaD:


Like has been said earlier, we are more concerned about those in our spiritual family. If other religious organizations follow Jesus as they claim, you won’t be picking holes in the comments of Janosky, Max because then those so-called Christians would also have a spiritual family to run to in times of distress. Mark 10:28-30
Of course, the main hole I have picked and I'm pointing straight in your nose is that why do you condemn the giving of others as not acceptable? One of your own boasted as if your giving is ultimate. I asked questions, and you guys gave me your answers. I am the only one who has picked this hole here with you. But the three of you here who are JWs have shown that your own religion or denomination or giving is the ultimate. And you picked everything wrong with others. You called others the world like outcasts. But when you are told you are a cult, you do not like it. And can you see how the 3 of you roam about threads like wounded lions defending what you should allow nature and time judge? You must prove JW is good. You must defend everything. Why? While defending, you must tell other denominations and churches many nasty things. You must tell them only your god is the only one. Who picks holes more? You, the other two, and all JWs. This is why people do not listen to you. I am not criticizing you, but telling you the truth the way it is. And I can tell you that one who doesnt attend my church will agree with me. And when more than 100 people from different backgrounds are telling one that his ways are wrong, the person should check himself well. Rather, you will all come out and boast more. Lol. But when you push the words out to atheists, they ridicule you, mess you up. It right here on NL how you rant with atheists. At the end, you look so stu.pi.d. The threads are here. So, who pick holes more? You tell me.


Talking about assisting others in the world aside of the relief work that’s focused on our fellow believers, that’s totally up to conscience of each JW to do that(Matthew 6:2) but such a person has to be extremely careful because showing off material wealth can attract hatred to the person(1John 2:16) and even those worldly persons whom he is helping will want to seek ways to outdo their helper because they may be just disabled or poor but that doesn’t mean they’re good persons at heart so that’s why each of us exercise caution and moreso, that’s the reason why I said we focus more on those in our spiritual family so the world can take care of its own(John 15:19) while we will take care of ours. James 1:27
I didnt bother to check your Bible verses, sorry cos you all always quote wrongly. But your words here make sense. I agree with you. So, the way you are careful is the same way others are careful too. Thank God we have something to agree on. But I had to say it that I doubt you will be humble enough to mention a point you agree with me or with others because you must not agree with the world. Lol. Only points you agree with other JWs you will say. Lol. I have not seen a single post of yours where you appreciate any other person apart from boasting and praising your own. What kind of attitude is this? I mean, cant you see any good thing in others you can appreciate? Guy, I do not want to be a part of a gathering like this. A gathering which sees others worthless. Never!


Oh and I read through the thread and that your argument about Jehovah’s Witnesses making money off unrighteous people is just you beating up a dead horse because even the apostle Paul, Aquila and Priscilla were making money off unrighteous persons from their tent-making business. Acts 18:3
OMG! Did Paul, Auila and Priscilla you mentioned here go about condemning their employers? Oh! It's their money you want, but you cannot thank them and appreciate them for giving you the jobs. And the same jobs provide for you to contribute and start boasting the works you do in your church. If they decide to not enrol you into their tertiary institutions so you do not get the degrees and you dont have jobs to do, will you be able to make donations in your kingdoms? You better wake up and stop this "we are our own Island". You live in a world where you cannot exist without others you teach your members to see as "the world".

So, JWs can make money from unrighteous people, but cannot employ the unrighteous and must consider his own JW first. Lol. Nepotism at the top. Let me even tell you, you have equal chance of attending all institutions. The so called world you see as evil does not discriminate when employing you. It doesnt discriminate when accepting you into institutions. Does not discriminate you when you try to access health benefits. Yet, you see this so called world evil. And only you are righteous. So, I put it to you like you put it to me: why is JW picking holes with every other person in the world?

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 9:37am On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

Of course, the main hole I have picked and I'm pointing straight in your nose is that why do you condemn the giving of others as not acceptable? One of your own boasted as if your giving is ultimate. I asked questions, and you guys gave me your answers. I am the only one who has picked this hole here with you. But the three of you here who are JWs has shown that your own religion or denomination or giving is the ultimate. And you picked everything wrong with others. You called others the world like outcast. But when you are told you are a cult, you do not like it.

Please feel free to call Jehovah’s Witnesses “cult”, “zombies”, “robots” or whatever you like while we will keep rejoicing since it proves we are true disciples of Jesus Christ(Matthew 5:10-12) after all our Lord and Master was called an agent of Satan so we shouldn’t expect anything less. Matthew 12:24


And can you see how 3 of you roam about threads like wounded lions defending what you should allow nature and time judge? You must prove JW is good. You must defend everything. Why? While defending, you must tell other denominations and churches many nasty things. You must tell them only your god is the only one. Who picks holes more? You, the other two, and all JWs. This is why people do not listen to you. I am not criticizing you, but telling you the truth the way it is. And I can tell you that one who doesnt attend my church will agree with me. And when more than 100 people from different backgrounds are telling one that his ways are wrong, the person should check himself well. Rather, you will all come out and boast more. Lol. But when you push the words out to atheists, they ridicule you, mess you up. It right here on NL how you rant with atheists. At the end, you look so stu.pi.d. The threads are here. So, who pick holes more? You tell me.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing what you should be doing, that is, silencing opposers of God’s Word. Isaiah 54:17
So we are all qualified and well-trained to handle God’s Word properly when it comes to silencing atheists. Ephesians 6:17, 2Timothy 2:15
Or don’t you notice from those threads how the atheist in question keeps ridiculing your kind who can’t substantiate their faith but goes mute when the Witnesses step up to the challenge?


I didnt bother to check your Bible verses, sorry cos you all always quote wrongly. But your words here make sense. I agree with you. So, the way you are careful is the same ways others are careful too. Thank God we have something to agree on. But I had to say it that I doubt you will be humble enough to mention a point you agree with me or others because you must not agree with the world. Lol. Only points you agree with other JW you will say. Lol. I have not seen a single post of yours where you appreciate any other person apart from boasting and praising your own. What kind of attitude is this? I mean, cant you see any good thing in others you can appreciate? Guy, I do not want to be a part of a gathering like this. A gathering which sees others worthless. Never!

I’m not teaching you anything so I’m not responsible for how you understand the Scriptures I quote.
It’s not by force that you become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, sir/ma. Many of us have Bible students who have seen that the world’s situation has changed drastically since the start of the pandemic(1Corinthians 7:31) and have taken their Bible studies seriously so those are the ones we expend our time and energy on since they have proved to be rightly disposed for everlasting life. Acts 13:48


OMG! Did Paul, Auila and Priscilla you mentioned here go about condemning their employers? Oh! It's their money you want, but you cannot thank them and appreciate them for giving you the jobs. And the same jobs provides for you to contribute and start boasting the works you do in your church. If they decide to not enrol you into their tertiary institutions so you do not get the degrees and you dont have jobs to do, will you be able to make donations in your kingdoms? You better wake up and stop this "we are our own Island". You live in a world where you cannot exist without others you teach your members to see as "the world".

Contrary to what you think, our brothers do not badmouth their employers, in fact we do not even carry placards to protest about salary/pension/gratuity or what ever when issues like those crop up and all of this because we follow the Bible’s advice. Titus 2:9, 1Peter 2:18


So, JWs can make money from unrighteous people, but cannot employ the unrighteous and must consider his own JW first. Lol. Nepotism at the top. Let me even tell you, you have equal chance of attending all institutions. The so called world you see as evil does not discriminate when employing you. If doesnt discriminate when accepting you into institutions. Does not discriminate you when you try to access health benefits. Yet, you see this so called world evil. And only you are righteous. So, I put it to you like you put it to me: why is JW picking holes with every other person in the world?

Of course, many people consider Jehovah’s Witnesses to be valuable assets when it comes to work or money-related issues that’s why most times we are easily employed because we are known for our honesty. Hebrews 13:18

We remain subject to Caesar only when he doesn’t demand something that doesn’t belong to him(Matthew 22:21) and so we pay taxes(Romans 13:7) therefore we have the same rights as other citizens to receive all of such benefits.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 9:45am On May 10, 2021
BassReeves:




"Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God;
nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.
"
- John 8:42

"Exerchomai" is the Greek original word translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from Jesus proceeded forth and came from.

Janosky and OkCornel, Jesus Christ is God and even god sef, especially if that's how or a way Janosky understands to partly put it.

OkCornel, fyi, I am not implying that Jesus and God are the same entity, but I am emphatically saying that Jesus and God are the same entity.

Janosky and OkCornel, lets put aside the Teacher and kid scenario I earlier shared, but listen and watch this explanation. I put on different attire colours to reflect my mood and image I am trying to project across. I could put on a red dress to make a statement that I am fiery, vibrant and lively. The colours are not me, they are images reflecting certain aspects of me. It's the same with God, the maleness and femaleness is not God, they are just constructs made in the image of God. God really isnt male nor female

Now we all know what kind of image one is projecting when wearing black colours, it could be for mourning or for trying to look sexy

About the famous saying "the only begotten" this means the only person uniquely gotten this way. The phrase has nothing to do with God biologically giving birth to Jesus, as a mother, like women do and so not having an existence before being incarnated

Janosky and OkCornel, God is formless, as you would know and agree. God is a Spirit, and so has no form. God however does have masculine and feminine distinctive personalities plus characteristics associated with man and woman. Yeah?

Before either of youse step and slip on my "God is formless" banana skin comment, let me make myself clearer with the comment, by adding to it, that God is shapeless and formless like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. When you pour water into a drum, it becomes the drum of water. That is why when Moses asked God who should he say sent him, if asked by the Israelites, God said to him, say, I AM I AM sent you.

I AM I AM, in that narrative, means I shall be that I shall be, also means whatever it is necessary for God to be, that, God will be. God willl be a pillar of cloud in the day and become a pillar of fire to give them light at night. God is formless, yet God can take on any form. I know it sounds like an oxymoron thing to say it that way, but God, though truly is formless, can manifest Himself in any form, just as in that Nebucadnezzer fiery furnace and etcetera
Think of God, this way, H20, sent itself into the world. H20 caused and allowed itself to be visible as solid ice.

Christ cannot share the same body with God the Father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God, projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God

Though Jesus was God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to.
Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, His Son

Janosky and OkCornel, God can send Himself, did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ. God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him.

Its often said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God looked for someone who could build walls or looked for someone to stand in the breach in His presence on behalf of the world so that it won't be destroyed, but He found no one and so God is lumbered with, doing a classic Do-It-Yourself by sending Himself to carry out the redemptive work.

This will explain what the bible said and/or is saying about "begotten" The word translated as "begotten", is the greek word "monogene" "Monogene", means, one and only or better still, one of a kind

Now the word "monogene", is a combination of the root words: "mono" (one or only) and "genos" (of a class or kind) hence "begotten", in the context, or "monogene" in the context means "the only of its kind"

Now, "monogene" occurred also, when similarly used over Isaac, and that is where and when Isaac was referred to, as only son, even when Abraham already had an older son, Ishmael

Isaac was unique, was one and only or one of a kind son. Unique in the sense that, an impotent man and menopaused woman had a child, the promised son, Isaac (i.e. child in a class of its own, this miracle never again has been repeated)

To just clear each other, "begotten" in the Jesus' context isn’t about procreation or some fantasied sexual intercourse

Jesus, is the last Adam, and second man. The first man Adam became a living soul, whereas, Jesus, the last Adam, became a life-giving spirit

The first man, Adam, is of the earth, earthy, came from earth; while the second man, Jesus Christ is from heaven, came from heaven. Alleluia.

"And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge,
and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none
(i.e. I looked for someone who might rebuild the wall of righteousness that guards the land.
I searched for someone to stand in the gap in the wall so I wouldn’t have to destroy the land, but I found no one.)
"
- Ezekiel 22:30

"He saw that there was no man—He was amazed that there was no one—to intercede;
so His own arm brought salvation, and His own righteousness sustained Him.
"
- Isaiah 59:16

"I was amazed to see that no one intervened to help the oppressed.
So I myself stepped in to save them with my strong arm, and my wrath sustained me
(i.e. I looked, but there was no one to help; I was shocked because there was no one offering support.
So my right arm accomplished deliverance or achieved salvation for me, my raging anger drove me on)
"
- Isaiah 63:5

Janosky and OkCornel, you must have quite a lot of times, heard the saying that "If you want something done right, do it yourself", well none, nobody, no angel out of the whole angelic hosts of heaven, nor no man out of the whole world wide, offered to accept the challenge to help man get returned back to man's original status before the fall, so God resorted to DIY

Janosky and OkCornel, you know that Christ, means Saviour, right?. So if you do, how then do suppose God will be able to pull this off this God's redemptive work, if Christ isnt God and man, hmm? Be good lads and give this some thought Janosky and OkCornel

"Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple,
Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming,” Says the LORD of hosts.
"
Malachi 3:1

Of course, Jesus is an angel too, Malachi 3:1 confirms Him being a Messenger. This is God sending Himself on an errand. Alleluia.

Dear Sir, I am also a Son of God, created in the image of God. Does that also make me God the Father?


Genesis 3 v 22;
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Romans 8 v 14;
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


Also bear in mind Jesus prayed for all believers to be ONE , just as he and the Father are ONE.

Does that also make me God the Father? Does that also mean Bassreeves is the same person as Janosky?

John 17 v 22;
I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one

Read the bolded part slowly and see what it means to be ONE.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 10:09am On May 10, 2021
Another funny thing about being the Son of God;

So according to genealogy, Adam is the Son of God;

Luke 3 v 38

38 the son of Enosh,the son of Seth, the son of Adam the son of God

Jesus was referred to as the second Adam. He’s also the Son of God.

But Adam isn’t God the Father. So how is Jesus also God the Father? Lol
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 10:22am On May 10, 2021
DappaD:


Please feel free to call Jehovah’s Witnesses “cult”, “zombies”, “robots” or whatever you like while we will keep rejoicing since it proves we are true disciples of Jesus Christ(Matthew 5:10-12) after all our Lord and Master was called an agent of Satan so we shouldn’t expect anything less. Matthew 12:24
Any one who behaves like you do is a cult. Why is the secrecy about your organization so high? It is your actions I am looking at and judging, and not you. You have done it again in this thread. You are ONLY right, but every other person is wrong. And you say you arent a cult? Of course your actions are like cult members. Jesus you called dined with sinners. Lol. You see others as rags you cannot dine or relate with. Have you ever dined with any sinner? You do not follow Jesus's example in all things. Though, I am truthful, you do some things according to Jesus' style. This is the difference between you and I. While you only see evil in others, I see the good in you and say it, and I try to point the disgusting ones to you. Yet, your defence is the same evil you see in others. Mehn! God will surely save you guys.



Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing what you should be doing, that is, silencing opposers of God’s Word. Isaiah 54:17
So we are all qualified and well-trained to handle God’s Word properly when it comes to silencing atheists. Ephesians 6:17, 2Timothy 2:15
Or don’t you notice from those threads how the atheist in question keeps ridiculing your kind who can’t substantiate their faith but goes mute when the Witnesses step up to the challenge?
You are funny. I do not do God's part. I only do what He commands. I do not go choke down God's word in others like you. Why must I silent atheists? I say mine, and I pray for the guys, not argue with them. Am I God who will start silencing people? This is not the great commission. Preach the word is it, not silencing those who do not agree with you.

I have been saying it that you and your fellow quote rubbish. Let's look at the three verses you put here:

Isaiah 54:17
No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me,” Says the LORD

Ephesians 6:17
Put on salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

2 Timothy 2:15
Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.

In these 3 verses, where is it written you use the word to silence others? I do not get it. Are you the one to do God's job? Your job is to preach and explain God's word. Leave silencing evil for God to do. Gush! Is it hard for you to realise that you do not fight the battles of God? Let Him fight His battles.



I’m not teaching you anything so I’m not responsible for how you understand the Scriptures I quote.
It’s not by force that you become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, sir/ma. Many of us have Bible students who have seen that the world’s situation has changed drastically since the start of the pandemic(1Corinthians 7:31) and have taken their Bible studies seriously so those are the ones we expend our time and energy on since they have proved to be rightly disposed for everlasting life. Acts 13:48
Stop quoting rubbish. Quote to back up reasonably and not igno.ra.ntly. Must you quote along every sentence you make? I have been noticing it. Yet, when I check, all the quotes aren't related to the subjects. I am so amazed that it is common to all the three of you. This is a big sign you guys have been confused. Your behavior pattern is same. How can the 3 JW here be making useless references? Same pattern.

You took Bible serious or you took journals you print in your places serious. Lol. If you take the Bible serious, you will not be quoting wrongly.



Contrary to what you think, our brothers do not badmouth their employers, in fact we do not even carry placards to protest about salary/pension/gratuity or what ever when issues like those crop up and all of this because we follow the Bible’s advice. Titus 2:9, 1Peter 2:18
Do not hide under placards. And do not judge others they carry placards. Do you have proofs? That you see people carry placards is not a reason for you to judge and say other Christians carry placards. You have more muslims in Nigeria than Christians. And others are there too. But even at that. If a Christian carries placards to correct employers, is it wrong? You must just want to sound righteous. Right? This attribute is why you are slapped outside. Jesus is not like this.

If these people do not fight for salary raise, will you have enough? Yet, they fight for your silly as.s and you arent even appreciative. Rather, you are abusing them they fight for their rights which you also benefit from. Guy, you are sick. Terribly sick. angry



Of course, many people consider Jehovah’s Witnesses to be a valuable asset when it comes to work or money-related issues that’s why most times we are easily employed because we are known for our honesty. Hebrews 13:18
We are subject to Caesar only when he doesn’t demand something that doesn’t belong to him(Matthew 22:21) and so we pay taxes(Romans 13:7) therefore we have the same rights as other citizens to receive all of such benefits.
Who are the many people who considered you to be valuable assets? You always evaluate yourself. Why don't you allow others evaluate you. This is what your fake leaders do. They evaluate themselves. They audit their own accounts. They make recommendations for themselves. They set examinations for themselves. Why will they not pass in flying colors? Lol. But when a foreign evaluation comes, it is from the world, and not accepted to you. Hahahaha. I want to believe you evaluated yourself to be honest. So congrats sir. But a man of integrity who is honest understands transparency. You are closed. You are far from honesty sir.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 10:26am On May 10, 2021
Another poser Bassreeves,

When God said LET US create man in OUR IMAGE & LIKENESS.

Was that referring to One literal God, or multiple members of the God head.

Patiently awaiting your response.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 11:57am On May 10, 2021
@PeaceJoyLove, the summary of all I’ve been saying is: Jehovah’s Witnesses are no part of the world under the control of Satan(John 17:14-16) so if even others in the world hate us for stand we take, we aren’t surprised. 1John 3:13
So if Jesus’ own words mean nothing to you, then fine you can continue wailing and crying as it will continue to pepper you(Luke 16:24) after all according to Jesus himself, a great void has been established between the truth and falsehood so it is impossible for two of us to agree on anything, it is either you agree with me or I agree with you but be rest assured we cannot hold hands i.e. there can never be mutual understanding. Luke 16:26

P.S. I earlier told you that I’m not responsible for how you understand the Scriptures I quote. One other guy tried using the same technique with me months back because he had nothing in his arsenal to dispute the truth before him.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by BassReeves: 11:58am On May 10, 2021
OkCornel:
Another poser Bassreeves,
When God said LET US create man in OUR IMAGE & LIKENESS.
Was that referring to One literal God, or multiple members of the God head.
Patiently awaiting your response.
When H2O says, lets make states in our OUR IMAGE & LIKENESS
Was that referring to One literal H2O, or multiple members of the H2O head.
Patiently awaiting your response.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 12:06pm On May 10, 2021
BassReeves:
When H2O says, lets make states in our OUR IMAGE & LIKENESS
Was that referring to One literal H2O, or multiple members of the H2O head.
Patiently awaiting your response.

The fallacy to your H2O theory would depict Jesus would know when the end of the world shall be.

But please explain these verses to us sir. If indeed Jesus is also the Father;

John 14 v 28;
28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I

Is God the Father tempted? Well...

James 1 v 13;
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

However, the last time I checked... the Son of God was tempted by Satan;

Matthew 4 v 1;
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil

Either Jesus is not God the Father or Satan is no longer evil.



Dear Bassreeves, kindly explain to us. Patiently awaiting your response.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 12:44pm On May 10, 2021
DappaD:
@PeaceJoyLove, the summary of all I’ve been saying is: Jehovah’s Witnesses are no part of the world under the control of Satan(John 17:14-16) so if even others in the world hate us for stand we take, we aren’t surprised. 1John 3:13
So if Jesus’ own words mean nothing to you, then fine you can continue wailing and crying as it will continue to pepper you(Luke 16:24) after all according to Jesus himself, a great void has been established between the truth and falsehood so it is impossible for two of us to agree on anything, it is either you agree with me or I agree with you but be rest assured we cannot hold hands i.e. there can never be mutual understanding. Luke 16:26

P.S. I earlier told you that I’m not responsible for how you understand the Scriptures I quote. One other guy tried using the same technique with me months back because he had nothing in his arsenal to dispute the truth before him.

So, Jesus' word made sense and meaning to you to the extent of peppering people? You do not know me. You dare not try to pepper me if you do not want to be thrown into a ditch of confusion. Let me pepper you small. You and your useless and deceptive idi.ots here show get the crap outta my face. My own Jesus did not send me to pepper people who do not agree with me. My own Jesus asked me to stand up and leave. In your own level of stup.idity, you must engage everyone. Who the crap are your useless elders teaching you rubbish? Just look at the verses you quoted again....lol...you act like one fish caught inside a river dancing for its life because a hook has held its throat and it's so painful. My words have confused you to the extend you.want to try pepper who? You cannot answer me majestically with confidence again cos you have nothing to say anymore. Your references are meaningless now, and its now violence you.want to use. You want to prove to people in the WORD that you are right by fire by force, but using the words there stu.pidly. I really do not know you are so useless like this level ooo. Chai! How you allowed these elders cook your brains is beyond me. It seems you are the first group I will label as idi.ots....idi.otaaas!!! Mehn! Now, I can see you are bunch of devil witnesses indeed. If you dont get the crap outta my face, be ready to receive a dirty slap in your face. I will whip you like how Jesus whipped those idi.ots in the temple. Get out. Manipulators! Devil worshipper! Demons! Hyprocrites!! You are truly who they call you. Very terrible dividers. Always causing disunity in the body of Christ. I wish a law can be passed to send you all to an Island and be alone where you can really separate yourselves. Very bunch of terrible set of people. Your elders have successfully cooked your brains. grin

Disgusting person you are. It is right for you to collect money for feeding yourself and donating in your useless kingdoms from the world. Lol. You worked for the world and made money from it because your elders have no choice. That is not given Cesear. You are taking for him. Lol. You are taking from the world which you claim is evil and you do not belong to. You can take from it, but you must give your own out of it. Ma.dn.ess is in your blood ooo. Oga, you better go to heaven where you belong now. Ma.d man. Lol. grin Foo.lish man. When collecting the salary from the Ceaser of this world, he puts a smile on his face knowing he is collecting money from Ceaser evil and the world. grin You are terrible.

Anyway, its help you need. And I will help you. My Father, and my God, I pray this one called Dappy must be saved too. Father, rearrange his brain that has been cooked. It is only a supernatural miracle that can help him because he has released himself to be abused. Jesus, take control. Let his brain be re-alligned so he can reason again. Father, the La Cram La Pour method he uses must change. Help him to be able to meditate accurately with the help of the Holy Spirit instead of reciting novels and literature books the deceivers in his place use to manipulate him. So shall it be. Amen.

Goodnews for you Mr Dappy. I have prayed for you and the God of Abraham will surely answer it. It is well with you. cool

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 1:02pm On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove, it’s not paining you I agree yet you can type long epistles that no one sane bothers to read to express your deep aversion towards people minding their own business.

P.S. It is a huge crime praying for people who do not want to change. Jesus never uttered a prayer in behalf of the Pharisees and scribes. On the last night before his death, he prayed in behalf of that his own disciples and that was it. John 17:7-26
Jesus even said: “I make request concerning them[his disciples]; I make request not concerning the world[those under Satan’s authority] but concerning those whom you have given me[his disciples]” —John 17:9
So please by all means continue displaying how misinformed you are to everyone following the thread. Have a good day.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by BassReeves: 1:07pm On May 10, 2021
OkCornel:
The fallacy to your H2O theory would depict Jesus would know when the end of the world shall be.

But please explain these verses to us sir. If indeed Jesus is also the Father;

John 14 v 28;
28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I

Is God the Father tempted? Well...

James 1 v 13;
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

However, the last time I checked... the Son of God was tempted by Satan;

Matthew 4 v 1;
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil

Either Jesus is not God the Father or Satan is no longer evil.

Dear Bassreeves, kindly explain to us. Patiently awaiting your response.
Matthew 3:15
'But Jesus replied to him,
“Permit it just now; for this is the fitting way for us to fulfill all righteousness.
” Then John permitted [it and baptized] Him.
'

Oh poor OkCornel with his limited understanding of accepted behaviour. Jesus is a stickler of protocol. Though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, His Son and made sure to fulfil all forms of righteousness

Watch this OkCornel and learn one, two or even three, if not more, from it

If you, OkCornel, miraculously have the power and ability to remain being OkCornel and at the same point, in time, you "exerchomai" yourself out (i.e. you projected, protruded, externalised), to become, still remaining being your self, but in the external form of a son (i.e. Lil' OkCornel) who is co-existing with you, OkCornel. Now tell me, OkCornel, in spite of the phrase: "like father, like son", who in your understanding and in regards of conventional wisdom, between OkCornel, the father and yourself coexisting in the form of your son Lil' OkCornel, is greater, lmso?

You see OkCornel, to fulfil all forms of righteousness, sons are submissive to fathers. They give in, to the authority and will of fathers. Sons are influenced by their fathers, hence why fathers are greater, lmso. In this case, though OkCornel, the father and Lil' OkCornel, the son, are the one and same person, you, OkCornel, as the father is greater than you, Lil' OkCornel, as the son. Capisce now?

Jesus, is not going to upstage God. If its disrespectful even in human terms to 'steal the show' from earthly fathers, why would you expect Jesus, God the Son, do anything like that with God, the Father. Hmm?

Almost forgot about your James 1 v 13 and Matthew 4 v 1. Well fyi, this is Eden revisited. The second Adam aka last Adam, just as the original Adam, too needs to be tried and tested bro.

Wasn't the devil rebuked for tempting God? Dont you read in your bible, Matthew 4:7: 'Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God'?
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by OkCornel(m): 1:19pm On May 10, 2021
BassReeves:
Matthew 3:15
'But Jesus replied to him,
“Permit it just now; for this is the fitting way for us to fulfill all righteousness.
” Then John permitted [it and baptized] Him.
'

Oh poor OkCornel with his limited understanding of accepted behaviour. Jesus is a stickler of protocol. Though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, His Son and made sure to fulfil all forms of righteousness

Watch this OkCornel and learn one, two or even three, if not more, from it

If you, OkCornel, miraculously have the power and ability to remain being OkCornel and at the same point, in time, you "exerchomai" yourself out (i.e. you projected, protruded, externalised), to become, still remaining being your self, but in the external form of a son (i.e. Lil' OkCornel) who is co-existing with you, OkCornel. Now tell me, OkCornel, in spite of the phrase: "like father, like son", who in your understanding and in regards of conventional wisdom, between OkCornel, the father and yourself coexisting in the form of your son Lil' OkCornel, is greater, lmso?

You see OkCornel, to fulfil all forms of righteousness, sons are submissive to fathers. They give in, to the authority and will of fathers. Sons are influenced by their fathers, hence why fathers are greater, lmso. In this case, though OkCornel, the father and Lil' OkCornel, the son, are the one and same person, you, OkCornel, as the father is greater than you, Lil' OkCornel, as the son. Capisce now?

Jesus, is not going to upstage God. If its disrespectful even in human terms to 'steal the show' from earthly fathers, why would you expect Jesus, God the Son, do anything like that with God, the Father. Hmm?

Almost forgot about your James 1 v 13 and Matthew 4 v 1. Well fyi, this is Eden revisited. The second Adam aka last Adam, just as the original Adam, too needs to be tried and tested bro.

Wasn't the devil rebuked for tempting God? Dont you read in your bible, Matthew 4:7: 'Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God'?

Dear Bassreeves in all you’ve posted, you haven’t addressed any of these observations noted.

But please explain these verses to us sir. If indeed Jesus is also the Father;

John 14 v 28;
28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I

Is God the Father tempted? Well...

James 1 v 13;
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

However, the last time I checked... the Son of God was tempted by Satan;

Matthew 4 v 1;
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil

Either Jesus is not God the Father or Satan is no longer evil.

Did Satan tempt Jesus? Yes. Has Satan ever tempted the Father? Absolutely not. These are separate entities. One is Uncreated, the other is the first born of all creation.

How can you be an Uncreated Father and a first born son at the same time? Lmao

Still many more verses coming, but... start with these first.

Cc: MuttleyLaff, Janosky, MaxinDhouse, Peacejoylove


Lest I forget, does Jesus know when the world would end dear Bassreeves? If indeed Jesus is both the Father and Son.

Matthew 24 v 36;
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 1:39pm On May 10, 2021
DappaD:
PeaceJoyLove, it’s not paining you I agree yet you can type long epistles that no one sane bothers to read to express your deep aversion towards people minding their own business.

P.S. It is a huge crime praying for people who do not want to change. Jesus never uttered a prayer in behalf of the Pharisees and scribes. On the last night before his death, he prayed in behalf of that his own disciples and that was it. John 17:7-26
Jesus even said: “I make request concerning them[his disciples]; I make request not concerning the world[those under Satan’s authority] but concerning those whom you have given me[his disciples]” —John 17:9
So please by all means continue displaying how misinformed you are to everyone following the thread. Have a good day.
Go and learn about the concept of prayer of Intercession. Powerful christians who know God intimately and have not allowed their brains to be cooked can relate. More so, the verse you quoted, Jesus mentioned about one person...Judas. Meaning he was specifically praying for his disciplines. Of course, the prayer is applicable to other situations, but not the way manipulators like you use it. No wonder atheists always say you twist the bible to favor you. Lol. Of course Jesus mentioned Judas there.

Guy, I confidently repeat myself: I am praying for you. My Jesus will work wonders in your life.

You are even righteous to the level that you do not pray for lost souls as you see yourselves so righteous. You are just the modern Pharisees and Sudacees. Chai. Christ! Devil witnesses are on another frequency oooo. Chai. I love that SDA babe here. She knows when to be silent and she always writes... "I am praying for you in all her posts". Which could be annoying the way she uses it. But she knows the power of prayer of Intercession. Lol. You Jehovah witnesses are terribly disgusting. That self righteous will destroy all of you.

Guy, cant you pepper me again? You should have made research to check this moniker if you can toy around with me. I have told you....get the crap outta my side if you do not want me injure you with words here. I will render all your talks meaningless soon. Continue ....do you hear me...continue showing how "m.umu" you are here. How can you allow some bunch of elders turn you to a zombie? Did I call you a zombie? Nope. You wrote here I can call you a zombie. And truly, you are a zombie without brain. Now, noodles are there. grin

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 2:00pm On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

[s]Go and learn about the concept of prayer of Intercession. Powerful christians who know God intimately and have not allowed their brains to be cooked can relate.[/s]

More so, the verse you quoted, Jesus mentioned about one person...Judas. Meaning he was specifically praying for his disciplines. Of course, the prayer is applicable to other situations, but not the way manipulators like you use it. No wonder atheists always say you twist the bible to favor you. Lol. Of course Jesus mentioned Judas there.

[s]
Guy, I confidently repeat myself: I am praying for you. My Jesus will work wonders in your life.
You are even righteous to the level that you do not pray for lost souls as you see yourselves so righteous. You are just the modern Pharisees and Sudacees. Chai. Christ! Devil witnesses are on another frequency oooo. Chai. I love that SDA babe here. She knows when to be silent and she always writes... "I am praying for you in all her posts". Which could be annoying the way she uses it. But she knows the power of prayer of Intercession. Lol. You Jehovah witnesses are terribly disgusting. That self righteous will destroy all of you.
Guy, cant you pepper me again? You should have made research to check this moniker if you can toy around with me. I have told you....get the crap outta my side if you do not want me injure you with words here. I will render all your talks meaningless soon. Continue ....do you hear me...continue showing how "m.umu" you are here. How can you allow some bunch of elders turn you to a zombie? Did I call you a zombie? Nope. You wrote here I can call you a zombie. And truly, you are a zombie without brain. Now, noodles are there. grin[/s]

Pick up a Bible and stop embarrassing yourself. In that same prayer that Jesus made, he regarded Judas Iscariot as the “son of destruction” and that his prayer did not cover him(John 17:12) because he has already been judged on account of betraying God’s Son. Mark 14:21
Again, please stop embarrassing yourself.
The rest is noise.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:51pm On May 10, 2021
Don't you know some people are 9icer and more generous than Jesus Christ? cheesy

DappaD:
PeaceJoyLove, it’s not paining you I agree yet you can type long epistles that no one sane bothers to read to express your deep aversion towards people minding their own business.

P.S. It is a huge crime praying for people who do not want to change. Jesus never uttered a prayer in behalf of the Pharisees and scribes. On the last night before his death, he prayed in behalf of that his own disciples and that was it. John 17:7-26
Jesus even said: “I make request concerning them[his disciples]; I make request not concerning the world[those under Satan’s authority] but concerning those whom you have given me[his disciples]” —John 17:9
So please by all means continue displaying how misinformed you are to everyone following the thread. Have a good day.
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 3:04pm On May 10, 2021
DappaD:


Pick up a Bible and stop embarrassing yourself. In that same prayer that Jesus made, he regarded Judas Iscariot as the “son of destruction” and that his prayer did not cover him(John 17:12) because he has already been judged on account of betraying God’s Son. Mark 14:21
Again, please stop embarrassing yourself.
The rest is noise.
So, Jesus has given you the authority to label every other person Judas. Lol.

Why dont you for once use your brain. I said the prayer is for his disciplines and I know because he mentioned Judas. Are you Jesus? Stop turning the Bible upside down ooooo. Because one person in Bible (prophesies even had been said earlier about this person), every other person who is not a member of your devil witness gatherings is a Judas. Right? You are sick. I am telling you, My God will change you. He will. The person who turned you to be in a terrible idi.otic m.umu state like this will be disgraced. In Jesus' name I have prayed for you. Amen!

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 3:10pm On May 10, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Don't you know some people are 9icer and more generous than Jesus Christ? cheesy

Face me directly Max.

Let me pray for you. Receive sense in the name of Jesus. Are you scared? I repeat it, receive sense in the mighty name of Jesus. The elders who have cooked your brain will be put to shame. You will reason again like a normal human and not like a devil witness. I say it loud and clear with authority that you receive a brand new sense in the name of Jesus.

Guy, do not be afraid. Nothing dey happen. You and Dappy with me will bulldoze the principalities operating in the devil's witness kingdoms with the power of the Holy Ghost. Yes, I have prayed for you. Your brain must start functioning in the right direction again. So, i say it with the authority vested on me by the Holy Ghost...receive sense. Amen!

Max, you will be alright. Dont worry. You will be.

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On May 10, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

Face me directly Max

after this:

Kindly disregard the devil-witness above. Just allow him display all he can

Remember it's still the same thread o! cheesy
Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by Nobody: 3:48pm On May 10, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


after this:



Remember it's still the same thread o! cheesy
Same thread with different strategies. That's the wisdom of God. When you operate in the level beyond noodles brains of yours and Dappy, you live in the truth. I asked you to face me so I can bombard you with prayers. So as to restore your brain. Your brain needs deliverance. Oh Max! I'm not the one doing it oooo. I didnt even know this phase will come. Can't you see how you were running your mouth before? But when power arrested you, oh! max started changing tune and appealing to readers with self pitying tactic. It will not work.

Max, I said your noodles brain will be restored. I pray life flows through the dead cells in your brain. Max's brain..receive sense in the name of Jesus'

Max, you will be alright. Say Amen! I cannot hear you ooo. Say amen loudly Max. Say a louder Amen!And may God bless you as you say Amen so you can have a new brain. Amen!

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Re: There's No Denomination With God-An encounter with JehovahWitness-DemonWitnesses by DappaD: 4:19pm On May 10, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Don't you know some people are 9icer and more generous than Jesus Christ? cheesy

My brother, the one that shocked me pass was when he/she kept saying “Jehovah’s Witnesses do not regard others as anything”. I’m still trying to wrap my head around what that means because if we do not see others as anything, why will on a normal Saturday morning that’s meant for rest will a Witness wake up, freshen up/shave, arrange Bible and magazines inside field service bag and then go out and start knocking on the doors of our neighbours and friends to bring them the good news of Jehovah’s Kingdom if we don’t regard them as anything?
Or does it not rather mean that we are looking out for their interests(Philippians 2:4) so they can become abreast with Jehovah’s will and then choose to do it because only then will they be amongst those who will survive the impending cataclysm(1John 2:17), can such a person be said to regard others as nothing? Let everyone be careful so his/her conscience not accuse him/her after making irreverent statements.

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