Simbrixton:
you mean the itsekiris in ibadan currently campaigning for oodua republic bros abeg go rest

Simbrixton:
you mean the itsekiris in ibadan currently campaigning for oodua republic bros abeg go rest

Truthshots2:
https://youtu.be/IIporKrPsbU

Truthshots2:
[s]The only Yoruba people are the people of oyo Kingdom, Itsikeri are known to be from Benin.[/s]

sangresan:


Na attention seeker...He even claimed na only 5 Americans have ever won the Field Medal.

sangresan:


Na attention seeker...He even claimed na only 5 Americans have ever won the Field Medal.

ogbonti:



Abeg do not bring confusion here - I am saying it is not yoruba name, wetin bring Igodomigodo come here naw?

ogbonti:



Abeg do not bring confusion here - I am saying it is not yoruba name, wetin bring Igodomigodo come here naw?

TAO11:
For a Bini man to give up falsehood, he must not only be disgraced; he must be terribly disgraced publicly without an atom of mercy.

In other words, both your claim and your video are false and have been debunked by myself time and time again using classical writings:

(1) There is no evidence for your falsehood that only Oyo people are Yorubas. A popular but false claim without any evidence.

(2) Your video claims that the name “Yoruba” was birthed for a group in the 1800s.

This claim is also debunked by classical writings from the early 1600s.

(3) The Evidence:
The embedded manuscript below (of Ahmad Baba) lists the name “Yoruba” (in the year 1615) among the names of other West African ethnic groups.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e

Below is an expert translation of the relevant section of this manuscript.

This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb

(4) We know this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because Baba penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc

The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

(5) In sum, your falsehood turns out to be a pain borne out of your frustration of being a minority.

Yes, the minority complex syndrome is a real thing. But you have a lifetime to deal with that.

Cheers!

Cc: Simbrixton, Sangresan

Gbajure:


[s]For argument sake let's agree that only Oronmiyan mother is Yoruba. And leave the Odùduwà part for other time. Then Eweka too has Yoruba blood then thru his father Oranmiyan. Let call those from Eweka with Yoruba blood via their ancestral mother Binis and the pure Edo people as Edos.

And since only those Binis can become Oba, then the Bini monarchy is part Yoruba then.

And if those are the same people that instituted Warri throne, it also is part Yoruba. I hope u get my point/s]

gregyboy:

Bloody aboki

Mraphel:

Igodomigodo is to ogiso and Bini Oba is to Yoruba. The modern Bini have adopted the igodomigodo language while Bini Yoruba are almost extinct.

Daum:


You see you guys always skip the main points. I never said anything about Oronmiyan being the first Oba or not. I said he left in anger because he couldn't rule. He was practically powerless. The Edions who brought him from Ife, didn't give him power. Power was with the Ogiamen.

You Yoruba have painted a history in your head like Oronmiyan came in a war horse with his army and invaded benin and conquered it. Then he put his son to rule over Benin... Oronmiyan was brought to Benin by the Edions. He could not even defeat the Ogiamen. He left in anger.... The people he met didn't even understand him. So this whole idea of him being conqueror in Benjn and Benin people being Yoruba... I don't know where those lies come from

Daum:



LOL.. Now I see
You don't even know the different between bini and Edo. Now I see why you're confusing yourself.....lol

A Benin man like you would say doesn't call himself Benin but he calls himself Edo. The title of the Oba of Benin is Omo N'oba Nedo....

Gbajure:


Now I get your point.
The reason I was stressing that sliver of point, is that only the descendants of Oranmiyan can become Oba of Benin.
Even Odùduwà met autonomous groups in Ile Ife but we are now all call Yorubas and not Ọmọ Odùduwà and Ọmọ Obatala.

Truthshots2:

Igodomigodo is a fairytale, the title of the emperor of Benin has always been Oba, the yorubas started copying the Oba title as from the 1930's, the first yoruba to do so is adesoji aderemi.

gregyboy:




Thsnkgod you don come dem be don dey talk nonsense again

shigishege:
it's like u smoke ganja, which time ooni visit bini before or after coronation?? even when he got married to a bini woman he did not go there. you guys just like to post nonsense.

Gbajure:


But was it like that before Oranmiyan from Ilé Ife arrived? Were they ever called Binis?
Was the king title ever Ọmọ Noba?
Wasn't it Ogiso?

ThatFairGuy1:

check above. Yorubas own bini

Tareq1105:


You mean that asewo that was thrown out of the Palace? ?

Truthshots2:
[s]Igodomigodo is a fairytale, the title of the emperor of Benin has always been Oba, the yorubas started copying the Oba title as from the 1930's, the first yoruba to do so is adesoji aderemi.[/s]

Ctorch:



https://thenationonlineng.net/warri-succession-crisis-oba-of-benin-wades-in-meets-ologbotsere/?fbclid=IwAR3dK6QqZ0Qfxb46wibGg63NTEODK0idywcRkpv7_gAdwslL6L2sgXt_twc

Simbrixton:
you mean the itsekiris in ibadan currently campaigning for oodua republic bros abeg go rest

TAO11:
Itsekiris: “We are Yoruba and proud ”

Binis: “No! You should be Bini. Pleaeaeaeaease “
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Can someone please define “insecurity” for me. I want to check something?

TAO11:
Ogbeni carry your insecure ass out of this thread and stop trying too hard to compensate for your inferiority complex.

Cc: sangresan

sangresan:
Na wa for you oo...You never heard of Ring Theory before and you called yourself an 'initiate'?

After Set Theory na Ring Theory..

After Ring na Group...After Group na Cathegory....in that order..

These are undergraduate maths.

Before you go reach advanced stages of manifolds in Topology..



So, which advanced mathematics are you talking about...?

nisai:

Truthshots2:
[s]I read what you wrote way too fast, you actually can't study rings before studying groups because the definition of rings uses the notion of group: (K,+,*,0,1) is a ring if k is a set and (k,+,0) is a group and...

Why were you trying to pretend you know something about mathematics ? You know absolutely nothing. Why is it that you yorubas just lie on absolutely everything ?

Also category theory is not for undergraduates, it is studied in final year of masters degree and not even with its complete rigour. Only logicians really study it through set theory or class theory.

Your view of mathematics is really uneducated. Category theory is way more abstractcthsn topology, actually category theory is an abstraction of algebraic topology.

Why do people like you just like to talk and talk and talk ? Most people with masters in pure mathematics don't know much about category theory. Many mathematicians don't know that much about category theory. It is a very advanced level of mathematics.[/s]