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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:04pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:
The oba of benin is just playing some mental games with the yorubas, it just yoy that is taking it personal and holding it as truth instead of a game
Until your oba confirms with his own mouth that he is a sell-out, I won’t take your newly acquired mind-reading machine seriously. LMAO!
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:04pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Please request him to provide evidence from an English-Benin dictionary/lexicon to buttress his jibber-jabber of a reply. grin


Busy




Cheers!


Bizzybody
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:06pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:
Bizzybody
Every chronic liar hates that their lies should be exposed publicly.

Your plight at the moment is therefore understandable. cheesy

Cc: soonest

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:10pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Until he confirms with his own mouth that he is a sell-out, I won’t take your newly acquired mind-reading machine serious. LMAO!



You're just useless to me now, you use to be useful in the past exposing the truth to benin history to me,

I guess you're exhausted now, because the more you unfold the more benefits it becomes to me...


Instead of looking for attention, why not create one by bringing something new....
To the table


You're just boring these days
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:11pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Every chronic liar hates that their lies should be exposed publicly.

Your plight at the moment is therefore understandable. cheesy

Cc: soonest


slowpoke
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:12pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:
You're just useless to me now, you use to be useful in the past exposing the truth to benin history to me,

I guess you're exhausted now, because the more you unfold the more benefits it becomes to me...

Instead of looking for attention, why not create one by bringing something new....
To the table

You're just boring these days
Same old lies require same refutation.

Tell a new lie for a change.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by scholes0(m): 8:12pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:




When you're talking be afraid because am not just a benin am a benin fanatics i study the benin history for fun.... So i know the in amd out of benin history



Those names you mentioned there are corrupt benin words


Atuwatse = a pure bini word cant find another word as examoke now

Omoluyiri in benin is = omoruyi

Atorongboye = erhiagbonye

And the others from their meaning you can tell the actual word version in edo


Oga, those names are not what you are making them out to be... They are pure Yoruba names

Atorongboye for example is - He who came from the abode of the gods (Orun in Yoruba, Oron in SE Yoruba) to claim the throne

same with all the others. .... Anyways, I dont have time for all this. Suit yourselves with fantasies.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 8:13pm On Apr 18
Simbrixton:
Atuwatse is the senior brother of oba of bini he said it before he died
He was talking about erejuwa 11 and not eredieuwa. comprehension is also a problem for you I see. Oba Eweka was also the senior brother to the one that succeeded oronmiyan at Oyo
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:20pm On Apr 18
UGBE634:
••• Oba Eweka was also the senior brother to the one that succeeded oronmiyan at Oyo
Oh I thought I saw “Ife” here. I appreciate the correction.

However, I have some quick questions and clarifications:

(1) Who was the successor to Oranmiyan at Oyo?

(2) Do you have any evidence to buttress your claim that Eweka 1 was the senior brother to that successor?

(3) Oranmiyan is according to all Oyo accounts the first king of the Oyo kingdom.

(4) Eweka 1 is (according to older Benin accounts) the first king of Benin kingdom.

(5) Oranmiyan was already king of Oyo when Eweka 1 wasn’t even yet Eweka.

Cc: Simbrixton

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 8:24pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Oh I thought I saw Ife here. I appreciate the correction.

However, who was the successor to Oranmiyan at Oyo?

And how is Eweka the senior brother to this successor?

Also, Oranmiyan was the first king of Oyo, while Eweka 1 (his son) was — according to the older Benin accounts the first king of Benin.
He actually ruled in Benin but not quite long if we are to go by your logic the father of iginuwa and ozolua did not rule in warri either
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:26pm On Apr 18
UGBE634:
He actually ruled in Benin but not quite long if we are to go by your logic the father of iginuwa and ozolua did not rule in warri either
Well, it’s not by logic. It’s by what the earliest already documented Benin accounts says.

The oldest received accounts of Benin history says that Eweka 1 is the first Oba of Benin

But you didn’t answer my question 1 and 2 embarassed Lol.

Side Note:
Isn’t Iginuwa the first Olu of the Itsekiris? What has his father or Ozolua got to do with ruling Itsekiri?
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ayyoshert: 8:26pm On Apr 18
BluDesk:



My dear. I was on ground in those days. Nobody crossed even Edo state into Warri to go fight wars. Also, yorubas can't survive the kind of battles fought in Warri. Don't say things you don't wish that when it happens, you would wished it didn't.
Was it Alien that fought there, open mouth and just be disrespectful, Ijaw Ilaje people too no fight? Maybe if you experienced Ife Modakeke skirmish, maybe you will stop bragging.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:31pm On Apr 18
scholes0:


Oga, those names are not what you are making them out to be... They are pure Yoruba names

Atorongboye for example is - He who came from the abode of the gods (Orun in Yoruba, Oron in SE Yoruba) to claim the throne

same with all the others. .... Anyways, I dont have time for all this. Suit yourselves with fantasies.


You literally made any meaning there


Break the words again i didnt get it the first time try again this time think it through thoroughly

And after you give this our meaning we would ask an Itsekiri man for their meaning


You wanna try again yoruba boy
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 8:34pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Well, it’s not by logic. It’s by already documented and frozen tradition.

The oldest accounts of Benin notes that Eweka 1 is the first Oba.
The fact is there are evidences he ruled actually, there is the ogiefa today in Benin. He couldn't have left without ruling nobody would have made Eweka king if the father had not succeeded in the fight and actually became the first Oba of Benin. He did left some strong structures in Benin however was met with constant restiveness while he was king in Benin hence the term "OGIEAMIEN AIMEIN OBA" "meaning na king them dae see Dem nor dae see oba" hence the frustration and the decision to leave. I Meant by his logic sorry
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:35pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
Same old lies requires same refutation.

Tell a new lie for a change.


Mt new lie


Oromiyan once existed and he conquered all the way to Cameroon
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:36pm On Apr 18
soonest:


I think Edos aren't Yorubas but their ruling house is obviously of Yoruba ancestry.
The use of Oba instead of Ogiso.
The Oba gets to fight a Bini family like that in a mock fight to ascend the throne
And many other pointers to show the ruling is likely to be of Yoruba origin

Reply
Truthshots2:


1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:37pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:
Mt new lie
Oromiyan once existed and he conquered all the way to Cameroon
No, there is no account which says he conquered all the way to Cameroon.

Stop projection the Benin attitude of lies on us. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:38pm On Apr 18
UGBE634:
The fact is there are evidences he ruled actually, there is the ogiefa today in Benin. He couldn't have left without ruling nobody would have made Eweka king if the father had not succeeded in the fight and actually became the first Oba of Benin. He did left some strong structures in Benin however was met with constant restiveness while he was king in Benin hence the term "OGIEAMIEN AIMEIN OBA" "meaning na king them dae see Dem nor dae see oba" hence the frustration and the decision to leave. I Meant by his logic sorry


Why are ypu, not attacking me with, this why go meet, TAO11, i want to believe you're Yoruba pretending to be benin


Smauk, Valirex truthhot

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:39pm On Apr 18
soonest:


What does the word oba mean in bini language. King i know is Ogie.
Why is the Oba refered to omon'oba

You ask questions when the answer has already been given to you:
1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:40pm On Apr 18
Truthshots2:
1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence” ~ Hitchens’s razor

+ I have already debunked each and every one of your above-listed hallucinations many, many times, including on this thread.

Cc: soonest

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:41pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:



Why are ypu, not attacking me with, this why go meet, TAO11, i want to believe you're Yoruba pretending to be benin


Smauk, Valirex truthhot

The likes of that person are immune to logics, their brain doesn't work the way it should. But they believe they are smart.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:43pm On Apr 18
Truthshots2:
The likes of that person are immune to logics, their brain doesn't work the way it should. But they believe they are smart.
Every chronic lair hates that their lies should be exposed publicly.

Your miserable plight is therefore understandable.

Take heart, this too shall pass.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:43pm On Apr 18
1) there was no ogiso
2) there was no oranmiyan
3) there was no Igodomigodo
4) there was no oduduwa

It is time to stop discussing fairytales

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:44pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:
Why are ypu, not attacking me with, this why go meet, TAO11, i want to believe you're Yoruba pretending to be benin
Samuk, Valirex truthhot
ROTFLMAO! grin cheesy

Binis have denied one another like 10 trillion times on this thread alone.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:48pm On Apr 18
Truthshots2:
1) there was no ogiso
2) there was no oranmiyan
3) there was no Igodomigodo
4) there was no oduduwa

It is time to stop discussing fairytales
You didn’t finish the fAiRy TaLeS list. See more fAiRy TaLeS below:

Eweka I, Uwuakhuahen, Ehenmihen, Ewedo, Oguola, Edoni, Udagbedo, Ohen, Egbeka, Orobiru, Uwaifiokun, Ewuare I, Ezoti, Olua, Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua, Ehengbuda, Ohuan, Ohenzae, Akenkpaye, Akengbedo, Ore-Oghene, Ewuakpe, Ozuere, Akenzua I, Eresoyen, Akengbuda, Obanosa, Ogbebo, and Osemwende

None of these people’s family, friends, or visitors wrote down any of their names. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 8:48pm On Apr 18
UGBE634:
The fact is there are evidences he ruled actually, there is the ogiefa today in Benin. He couldn't have left without ruling nobody would have made Eweka king if the father had not succeeded in the fight and actually became the first Oba of Benin. He did left some strong structures in Benin however was met with constant restiveness while he was king in Benin hence the term "OGIEAMIEN AIMEIN OBA" "meaning na king them dae see Dem nor dae see oba" hence the frustration and the decision to leave. I Meant by his logic sorry



You yoruba pretending to benin keep shut

You disgust me


Ogiefa what is the meaning


Ogie of ifa

Are you aware benins complained that ifa was been forced on them during the their time in the western region, that the yorubas are forcing them
To worship ifa, inother to indulge in politics


That is were the worship ifa and ogboni entered benin, ifa or ogboni worship was never in Benin prior to western region which made it mandatory for political elite to indulge in such worship




Again Ogiemien, should not be interpreted as what you interpreted it to be

Ogiemien is the king of the waters

Before benin was organized into one ogiemien ruled the part in benin surrounded by waters until
He was defeated by ogietor and benin kingdom was established


Ogiemien history has nothing to do with Yoruba people oromiyan never existed


If you're a benin man face me and stop running like a yoruba coward
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 8:48pm On Apr 18
TAO11:
This is NOT the video you claimed to have.

Neither is this the video I asked for.

Save Benin kingdom now! cheesy
Lol
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:49pm On Apr 18
Oromiyan is actually the name of a region in Ethiopia.
The person who made up that fairytale just borrowed the name from Ethiopia.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 8:50pm On Apr 18
gregyboy:




You yoruba pretending to benin keep shut

You disgust me


Ogiefa what is the meaning


Ogie of ifa

Are you aware benins complained that ifa was been forced on them during the their time in the western region, that the yorubas are forcing them
To worship ifa, inother to indulge in politics


That is were the worship ifa and ogboni entered benin, ifa or ogboni worship was never in Benin prior to western region which made it mandatory for political elite to indulge in such worship




Again Ogiemien, should not be interpreted as what you interpreted it to be

Ogiemien is the king of the waters

Before benin was organized into one ogiemien ruled the part in benin surrounded by waters until
He was defeated by ogietor and benin kingdom was established


Ogiemien history has nothing to do with Yoruba people oromiyan never existed


If you're a benin man face me and stop running like a yoruba coward
There is OGIAME- KING OF WATER, THERE IS ANOTHER, OGIAMIEN

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 8:51pm On Apr 18
KingOKON:


Bob Risky there is a more important issue at hand, I learnt you have been schooling some Olodos that Oranmiyan was the first Oba
Abeg its been long Mama Shakiru told me Sango and his wives tales, plz where can I find all these your sacrilegious fables just direct me to the thread
This one has nothing coherent to type again after having been battered with evidence by an 'ordinary' lady. grin

What a person!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:52pm On Apr 18
Truthshots2:
Oromiyan is actually the name of a region in Ethiopia.
The person who made up that fairytale just borrowed the name from Ethiopia.
No, Oromiyan is NOT even the name of the Ethiopian region. It is called Oromia (or Oromiyaa).

However, the Ife-Yoruba hero who conquered your Benin ancestors is Oranminyan. Different spellings, different meanings.


See link below for more details:
https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/15#100890348

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 8:54pm On Apr 18
UGBE634:
There is OGIAME- KING OF WATER, THERE IS ANOTHER, OGIAMIEN
@gregyboy, here is your brother confessing unknowingly that the actual Bini word for “king” is “OGIE”.

Oba” is the loan term from your masters — the Yorubas.

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