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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:18pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
shut up you fool, what did you refute there, that I tried telling we don't associate the way you associate in your slowpoke tribe. have I done what is not right. as a subhan that you are I know understanding is hard for you that is why I had to send it over and over so it can be easy. This was some of the reasons I called your betters by far to come and educate you
You said you are a slave. I agree because I know already.

But I am saying the king’s family members are NOT his slave. They are nobles with noble titles reserved for them.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:19pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
And I chose to believe his ancestors (starting from Akenzua-2 to Eweka-2 all the way up) and historians of African history.

What’s your problem with that, oba’s slave?
you can believe his ancestors for all you can but I will believe a man who is just 24 years younger than his father and he is far more educated
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:21pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
You said you are a slave. I agree because I know already.

But I am saying the king’s family members are NOT his slave. They are nobles with noble titles reserved for them.
Your father must have been deported to Nigeria in the 1920 and his brain must have been tormented and this has thus affected your IQ range. you have dead brain cells and you are sincerely irredeemable.after all my explanations you still choose to remain deaf, it shows to me you are super demented
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:38pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
you can believe his ancestors for all you can but I will believe a man who is just 24 years younger than his father and he is far more educated
Educated in his traditional history than (1) his father, (2) his grand father, (3) than their predecessors, and than (3) the historical scholarship of pre-colonial Benin history.

A true slave of the Oba of Benin (aka @UGBE634) have spoken.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:40pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
Your father must have been deported to Nigeria in the 1920 and his brain must have been tormented and this has thus affected your IQ range. you have dead brain cells and you are sincerely irredeemable.after all my explanations you still choose to remain deaf, it shows to me you are super demented
Why are you angry now. cheesy

You admitted that you are a slave. Did I force you to admit it at gun point? grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:40pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
Educated in his traditional history than (1) his father, (2) his grand father, (3) than their predecessors, and than (3) the historical scholarship of pre-colonial Benin history.

A true slave has spoken.
Go and read his book many of the interpreters who interpreted for his father could not even interpret properly so what do you mean even as late as 1937 then you want me me to believe your nonsense and forgery
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:41pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
Why are you angry now.

You admitted that you are a slave. Did I force you Tao admit it an go in point?
normal I am sorry or I have heard you would solve this matter but you wish to choose your ego over what is right
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:45pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
Why are you angry now. cheesy

You admitted that you are a slave. Did I force you to admit it at gun point? grin

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And I explained what I meant by that thoroughly but you still choose to be a dumbhead
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:46pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
Go and read his book
I would rather read a peer review article on Benin history published (by those who are professionally and academically trained in such line of investigation) in a world-renowned academic journal.

the interpreters who interpreted for his father could not even interpret properly
Name one of the interpreters. LMAO! As well as their statement of how their interpretations were wrong.

so what do you mean even as late as 1937 then you want me me to believe your nonsense and forgery[/s]
Nobody interpreted for Chief Egharevba when he gathered information from the court of Akenzua-2, and he wrote the first publication in Edo.

Lobatan

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 2:47pm On Apr 24
Olu317:
You sure do have a good lead in your storyline but I have questions you need give answer to, such as:

What did year Ogiso Owodo died ?

What year did Ekeladeran found Ughoton ?

Can you mention Ekeladeran's descendants in Ughoton ?

Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Igala ?

Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Ileife ?




I can't be too precise about the dates you are requesting for. It is said that Oranmiyan stayed in igodomigo around 1170 AD because archaeological work was done on his palace that was built in Uzama quarters in Usen and his palace still exists on that site till today.

Ekalederan had no descendants in Ughoton, he was still quite young when he left Ughoton. According to records, all that is mentioned is that he had followers who accompanied him from igalla land to ile-ife. He had a wife in igalla. According to records he had only one child called okanbi and i cant say if akanbi was born in igalla land. I'm sure you are aware of all the names of his grand children.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:48pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
I would rather read a peer review article on Benin history published (by those who are professionally and academically trained in such line of investigation) in a world-renowned academic journal.

Name one of the interpreters. LMAO! Alongside their statement of them interpreting the wrong things.

Nobody interpreted for Chief Egharevba when he gathered information from the court of Akenzua-2, and he wrote the first publication in Edo.

Lobatan
he also said chief egharevba could have been biased because he is maternally Yoruba hear him out first, look for time and read his book. He said one interpreted resign as taking the key in Benin, this was as late as 1937
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:48pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
And I explained what I meant by that thoroughly but you still choose to be a dumbhead
No, you only tried to speak for others and yourself.

And I said leave others, speak for yourself alone.

In any case, you admitted that at least you are a slave.

Am I correct? grin cheesy
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:51pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
he also said chief egharevba could have been biased because he is maternally Yoruba hear him out first, look for time and read his book
What kind of pleading is that?

His father is Benin, his mother is Yoruba, hence he is biased against his father undecided

And the whole Bini land (including Akenzua-2) would not see what he wrote and punsih him if he had written something different from what he was given.


Do you Binis reason before talking? cheesy

Oba Akenzua-2 was also biased because ...

Oba Eweka-2 was also biased because ...

The historians of African history were also biased because ...

Cyril Punch who collected the original account of Ekaladerhan in the 1880s is biased because ...

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:54pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
What kind of pleading is that?

His father is Benin, his mother is Yoruba, hence he is biased against his father undecided Do you Binis reason before talking? cheesy

Oba Akenzua-2 was also biased because ...

Oba Eweka-2 was also biased because ...

The historians of African history were also biased because ...

Cyril Punch who collected the original account of Ekaladerhan in the 1880s is biased because ...
Those were some of the reasons he gave if you have read his book you would know, I am not the one who gave those reasons, kinda connecting his two root kinda thingy, go and listen to his speech during the cetennial anniversary of British expedition in 1897, he gave two instances of where two interpreters made mistakes of interpreting words, the first 'selfish' as the act of selling fish. and another interpreted resign which sounds as "rri sanhen'' which means taking the key in benin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 2:58pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
The name ‘Ereko’ still exists till date in Lagos — on the island particularly.

We live in the internet age. Stop embarrassing your people publicly on Nairaland. Check it out yourself.

Also, please inscribe “Benin” to that picture for me and let it appear as the original. Since anyone can do it. I’d be waiting. Lol.

TRASH pulled out from your anus as usual.

Aworis are the founders of Lagos. Lagos account says this. Even the fraudulent Benin account admits this. I’m not sure what your version is. Your anus’s version I guess.

Well, if wishes were horses Binis would ride.

Lagos island (NOT even Lagos itself) was established by the owners — Awori-Yoruba.

And it was also named as Eko by the Yorubas.

I have given you references for each of these two lines of statement.

And the references I gave are decades/century earlier than the latter-day Benin version which you’ve been fed from childhood.

I would have expected any free-born who is not a slave to bury his head in those materials and learn rather than argue blindly like a typical slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin.

You lay out your points like a small kid whom is full of hate and despair. I already know your true motive, you are not hear to seek truth and share knowledge, you were sent here to debunk and devalue the Benin history. I'm here for another reason, which is to share knowledge and to learn. We are obviously not on the same page so don't expect me to reply any of your messages henceforth because it is obviously a waste of time and energy. Ciao!
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:00pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
Those were some of the reasons he gave if you have read his book you would know, I am not the one who gave those reasons, kinda connecting his two root kinda thingy
But the so called reason does make no iota of sense. Use your brain for once in your lifetime. Brain usage is not an abomination no what who have told you otherwise.

If he had published a different information from what Akenzua-2 court gave him, he would have still been caught and punished.

About half a century before Egharevba’s time of writing, the same information have been collected from the same Benin. I guess those ones too were biased because their mothers are Benin.

Use your brain for once since you’ve been born. Nothing bad would happen to you if you do. It doesn’t stop you from being a slave. Try it today.

go and listen to his speech during the cetennial anniversary of British expedition in 1897, he gave two instances of where an interpreter made a mistake of interpreting the world 'selfish' as the act of selling fish. and another interpreted resign which sounds as "rri sanhen'' which means taking the key in benin
Again use your brain. Who recorded the audio or video to have heard what was being said to him.

Was the interpreter interpreting from English to English?

Use your brain today. God did not give you a brain so that you should not use it.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 3:03pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
But the so called reason does make no iota of sense. Use your brain for once in your lifetime. Brain usage is not an abomination no what who have told you otherwise.

If he had published a different information from what Akenzua-2 court gave him, he would have still been caught and punished.

About half a century before Egharevba’s time of writing, the same information have been collected from the same Benin. I guess those ones too were biased because their mothers are Benin.

Use of brain for once since you’ve been born. Nothing bad would happen to you if you do. It doesn’t stop you from being a slave. Try it today.
those where not my point, the oba is educated I believe he knows what he is sayinggo and listen to his speech during the cetennial anniversary of British expedition in 1897, he gave two instances of where two interpreters made mistakes of interpreting words, the first 'selfish' as the act of selling fish. and another interpreted resign which sounds as "rri sanhen'' which means taking the key in benin as early as 1937
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:04pm On Apr 24
Fezz:
You lay out your points like a small kid whom is full of hate and despair. I already know your true motive, you are not hear to seek truth and share knowledge, you were sent here to debunk and devalue the Benin history. I'm here for another reason, which is to share knowledge and to learn. We are obviously not on the same page so don't expect me to reply any of your messages henceforth because it is obviously a waste of time and energy. Ciao!
You didn’t NOT write anything here.

I lay out points, and I back it up with references — a feat you have never done, and can never do because you lack the ability to do such.

Come and type whatever you want to type, I will debunk whatever of it is a lie. And I will do so using evidence, proof, facts, and ratiocination.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 3:07pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
But the so called reason does make no iota of sense. Use your brain for once in your lifetime. Brain usage is not an abomination no what who have told you otherwise.

If he had published a different information from what Akenzua-2 court gave him, he would have still been caught and punished.

About half a century before Egharevba’s time of writing, the same information have been collected from the same Benin. I guess those ones too were biased because their mothers are Benin.

Use of brain for once since you’ve been born. Nothing bad would happen to you if you do. It doesn’t stop you from being a slave. Try it today.

Again use your brain. Who recorded Ed the audio or video to have heard what was being said to him.

Was the interpreter interpreting from English to English?

Use your brain today. Go did not give you a brain so that you should not use it.
He certainly was interpreting from English to bini but your dumb brain won't know those were the meanings he interpreted
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:10pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
[s]those where not my point, the oba is educated I believe he knows what he is sayinggo
Don’t you think God could have created without any brain at all in your head?

Yes he could have done that. But he decided to give you a brain. He didn’t give so that you won’t use it. Use your own personal brains today.

Again! Academic historians (whose job it is to scrutinize such matter) have published works in world-renowned journals to conclude that (1) his narration has no basis in Benin, (2) no source was cited (3) not one informant was named (4) it contradicts the classical narrative (5) and it is as such a modern day forgery fabricated out of inferiority complex.

and listen to his speech during the cetennial anniversary of British expedition in 1897, he gave two instances of where two interpreters made mistakes of interpreting words, the first 'selfish' as the act of selling fish. and another interpreted resign which sounds as "rri sanhen'' which means taking the key in benin as early as 1937
I have debunked this already. Refer to my penultimate comment.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:13pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
He certainly was interpreting from English to bini but your dumb brain won't know those were the meanings he interpreted
Who was interpreting from English to Benin? Explain how your examples (of fish) tie in to interpreting from English to Benin.

And also explain how that (assuming you will have any reasonable explanation for the above) prove that his father is wrong, his grandfather his wrong, their predecessors are wrong, Egharevba is wrong, Cyril Punch, and the historians of African history are wrong.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 3:18pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
Who was interpreting from English to Benin? Explain how your examples (of fish) tie in to interpreting from English to Benin.

And also explain how that (assuming you will have any reasonable explanation) prove that his father is wrong, his grandfather his wrong, their predecessors are wrong, Egharevba is wrong, Cyril Punch, and the historians of African history are wrong.
he said selfish was interpreted as selling the fish and that did not tell you that he is not worthy enough to be a middlemen as he could pass wrong words with different meanings to both side. they were not schooled enough to act as middlemen that was his point. if I may ask you what changed why did he go against his father's story being the educated mind that he is
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:37pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
he said selfish was interpreted as selling the fish •••
In what context was the interpretation done ?? That’s the question I was asking you lad.

Was the interpreter communicating Benin account to a foreign chronicler or what ??

And what evidence is there that the alleged ‘event’ ever happened in the first place to begin with ??

Do we have an audio or video of what was said ??

And how does the occurrence of such ‘fishy’ event (if it ever happened) prove the following points which you should be defending:

(I) That Erediauwa’s father (Akenzua-2) is wrong about his knowledge of his ancestral roots.

(II) That Erediauwa’s grandfather (Eweka-2) is wrong about his knowledge of his ancestral roots.

(III) That Erediauwa lived closer to the past than his father and his grand father and their predecessors.

(IV) That Egharevba is wrong about his received account of the ancestral roots of the Benin obas.

(V) That C. Punch is wrong about his received account of the original narrative about Ekealderhan.

(VI) That the published works in the world’s renowned historical journals by historians of African history are all wrong in their conclusion on the ancestral roots of the Benin obas.

and that did not tell you that he is not worthy enough to be a middlemen as he could pass wrong words with different meanings to both side. they were not schooled enough to act as middlemen that was his point. if I may ask you what changed why did he go against his father's story being the educated mind that he is
Quoting my reply to your bolded question from a peer-review research article of the world’s present most prolific historian of pre-colonial Benin [Bondarenko (2003)] published in the prestigious journal History in Africa by the Cambridge University Press. He writes:

Their authors [i.e. authors of the “deliberately unauthentic” 1970s versions] are representatives of the nationalistically-minded part of the Bini intelligentsia who are seeking to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the sociopolitical life of independent Nigeria*. Behind such pseudohistorical studies by intellectuals, as if harmless, one can make out serious problems of [sic] the country, interests of political matter clans based on their members’ ethnic community*. ~ p. 68.

Cc: UGBE634, Fezz, Simbrixton, sangresan

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by AreaFada2: 3:40pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
You must be an idiot,the Umogun family is so large now, where would you now draw the line, Areafada2 is from that family, would you say he is a slave,and he has a moniker here, when I said that we are all slaves, I meant his family included in respect to him. the family will also shout Oba GHA to kpere just like every other family would. The Benin family system is such that every family was seen as having emerged from a 'uniquely' great ancestor who did his part in making sure the Benin kingdom cum empire survives. Ologbosere who was tried and killed is from the LA-OKUN family and anyone from that family who greets his oriki in the morning would be revered with praise from his ancestors in such a way that he will be happy and will believe that his family has a stake in Benin just like every other family having done his bit to ensure the survival of Benin kingdom. the same thing with the Ezomo n'uzebu family who their patriarch was the commander in chief of the armed forces. the same thing with Obaseki who their patriarch was also once the prime minister of Benin kingdom. The Benin family system is seen in such a way that every family is important and without the support of each family patriarch, the Benin kingdom cum empire which once was would not have been possible.

My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to post for rational but silent readers.
Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society. Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British. Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better. In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line. It is usually in response to the morning salutations below:

Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related. Ohemwen family also greet Lavbieze so such greeters from that line are related.
Ezomo descendants- Lagiesan
Ero descendants- Lamosun
Edohen descendants- Latose or Lauvbe
Eholor n'Ire descendants- Laire
Oloton descendants- Lamehi
Edogun descendants- Lagiemwan
Ogiefa descendants- Laidu. Idu direct descendants also greet Laidu
Iyase of Udo -Lagiemwan (normally considered quasi Enogie/Duke of Udo but can be replaced in the role by Uwangue of Udo. No substantive duke in Udo since defeat of Prince Aruaran who was duke of Udo about 500 years ago).
Elawure of Usen descendants- Delaihe
Ojima of Okeluhen descendants- Laugha.
Enogie/Duke of Egor descendants- Lauihe
Iyase of Uselu descendants- Layede

There are dozens more.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 3:45pm On Apr 24
AreaFada2:


My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to post for rational but silent readers.
Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society. Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British. Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better. In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line.
Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related.
DOMO ERHAWMEN, thanks for the clarification on the lavbieze. No wonder they seem to be the largest family unit
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:09pm On Apr 24
AreaFada2:
My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to[/s]
AreaDullard 2 of Benin kingdom! By the way who is AreaDullard 1? Could that be Okon? Because he has a wonderfully-low IQ just like yours.

post for rational but silent readers.
I will debunk any Benin lie found on this thread as I always do. And I would do so with evidence.

Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society.
Em-kini undecided If I hear empire I will stone you shit.

You want to turn African history into a joke by calling Benin an empire. Ruling a couple of surrounding Edo villages is NOT the definition of empire.

Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British.
I give you a pass mark here. But they are all still slaves of the Oba — they are not members of his family from Ife.

Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
The actual word in the Benin contexts is not “servant,” neither is it “subject,” it is called “slave” — S-L-A-V-E .

However, the members of his family are not his slaves like you the general populace. Yes they are his subject, but the term slave is reserved for you natives whom the Ife son met on ground.

@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people
Open to be force-fed with the Yoruba language by your Yoruba masters from Ife? LMAO!

who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better.
Expan-kini ??

Expanded to ‘west’? Yet those whom you allegedly expanded to dominate were imposing their words on you instead of the other way round. Expanded ko, contracted ni

Oh okay! Expanded to cover some surrounding Edo villages. Got it.

In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line.
Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related.
Well, you forgot to include some orikis (praise titles) of your oba — his Yoruba orikis to be precise, some of which are:

(1) Ọba (”OBA), (2) Àdìmúlà (”ADIMILA [sic]), (3) Õṣà-[Ì]kejì (”O SAKEJI [sic]).

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Reference: Richard. E. Dennett; “At The Back of the Black Man’s Mind”: Or Notes on the Kingly Office in West Africa; London, Macmillan and Co., Limited (The New York Macmillan Company); 1906, p. 181.

Cheers!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by AreaFada2: 4:15pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
DOMO ERHAWMEN, thanks for the clarification on the lavbieze. No wonder they seem to be the largest family unit

You are welcome my brother. I added more greetings to the post you quoted.
Consider that Ohemwen descendants greet lavbieze too.

An Iyase is an accomplished person usually. In ancient times, he probably already had many wives and kids. Upon appointment as next in power to the Oba, kings, dukes and other nobility from outside Benin/Edo, East and West, would easily offer him brides to gain powerful connections in Benin. Therefore, he could have even have more kids.

Lagiesan greeters are also very many. Ezomo as war field commander was very rich. Wealth and marrying many wives and having plenty kids nor be today e start. grin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by AreaFada2: 4:16pm On Apr 24
UGBE634:
DOMO ERHAWMEN, thanks for the clarification on the lavbieze. No wonder they seem to be the largest family unit

You are welcome my brother. I added more greetings to the post you quoted.
Consider that Ohemwen descendants greet lavbieze too.

An Iyase is an accomplished person usually. In ancient times, he probably already had many wives and kids. Upon appointment as next in power to the Oba, kings, dukes and other nobility from outside Benin/Edo, East and West, would easily offer him brides to gain powerful connections in Benin. Therefore, he could have even have more kids.

Lagiesan greeters are also very many. Ezomo as war field commander was very rich. Wealth and marrying many wives and having plenty kids nor be today e start. grin
Watch how soon the lunatic will descend here. grin cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 4:17pm On Apr 24
AreaFada2:


You are welcome my brother. I added more greetings to the post you quoted.
Consider that Ohemwen descendants greet lavbieze too.

An Iyase is an accomplished person usually. In ancient times, he probably already had many wives and kids. Upon appointment as next in power to the Oba, kings, dukes and other nobility from outside Benin/Edo, East and West, would easily offer him brides to gain powerful connections in Benin. Therefore, he could have even have more kids.

Lagiesan greeters are also very many. Ezomo as war field commander was very rich. Wealth and marrying many wives and having plenty kids nor be today e start. grin
Watch how soon the lunatic we descend here. grin cheesy
oh ok uruese erhawmen.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:29pm On Apr 24
nisai:
Erukeru abi lala lenu. grin

Tao11, seems this your student will never succeed in history. you should register him as an apprentice under Miyetti Allah. Trekking with cows from sokoto to Edo should make him much more useful to his Edo community than the disservice he is doing to the Oba and the community here.
I died. cheesy grin

But it looks like classes closed too early today. Just about 6 hours of drilling their skulls intensively.

Hmmm! Looks like we are making some progress.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:36pm On Apr 24
Fezz:
I can't be too precise about the dates you are requesting for. It is said that Oranmiyan stayed in igodomigo around 1170 AD because archaeological work was done on his palace that was built in Uzama quarters in Usen and his palace still exists on that site till today.
Joker trying hard to sound smart.

Ekalederan had no descendants in Ughoton, he was still quite young when he left Ughoton. According to records, all that is mentioned is that he had followers who accompanied him from igalla land to ile-ife.
What records are you fools talking about sef?

Your earliest accounts all consistently lead to the conclusion that Ekaladerhan lived his whole life in his kingdom of Ughoton.

You have been born a slave m, must you die a slave? God didn’t give you a brain so you can forgo it’s use. Use your Brian’s today

He had a wife in igalla. According to records he had only one child called okanbi and i cant say if akanbi was born in igalla land. I'm sure you are aware of all the names of his grand children.
Lunacy has clearly been unleashed in Benin kingdom.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:03pm On Apr 24
TAO12:
I died. cheesy grin

But it looks like classes closed too early today. Just about 6 hours of drilling their skulls intensively.

Hmmm! Looks like we are making some progress.
Who wouldn't run for a class where one has to receive crushing koboko on one's skull each time he/she exhibits dumbness. A default dumbo will never be happy or stay long in such class.

They are bunch of empty but egotistical and cowardly nonentities.

They know they cannot defeat you intellectually. They secretly admire you. In fact, they blame themselves for getting involve against you.

Erin nlo l'oko agbe ntaka, babanla baba tani oo fi oko p'erin?

Yoruba lagba!

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