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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 10:59pm On Apr 27
TAO12:
cheesy

(1) Edos and Binis are one and the same thing. Haha

(2) Yorubas sold Edos (hence Binis) into slavery.

(3) Yorubas conquered and slave-raided Benin kingdom.

Which of these three statements above do you disagree with and why?
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You and this Ryder you are quoting I don't know who is dumber and the chief crab brain.
Ilorin ceased to be a Yoruba town since 1829 after Afonja Kakonfa was longed killed like a dog by the Fulanis.
Ilorin was far an emirate and this lizard brain Ryder of a guy called it a Yoruba town.

Instead the Fulanis were busy rampaging Yoruba town and sending the captured Yoruba men and women as slaves to Mecca, how then was it possible that Ibadan under the mercies of the Fulanis could be a threat to Benin when they were panicking for their lives?

Fulanis destroyed old Oyo and Islamized every conquered territory and the Ryder guy just like a fish brain like you think they posed any threat to Benin, you both must be high on Oyemiran weed.

Mind you as at this time in Lagos, the Oba of Benin still had Lagos under his control which was on thing the British authorities were scheming to take charge, which they eventually did and the exile of the Oba to calabar

The Fulani emirate and emir 1897 welcomed the British with no cough and the emir bowing down while the feared Oba was exiled, badan a city that just came into prominence around 1800 when Benin and other coastal towns had longed been dealing with slaves through ports like lagos, fell far earlier in 1893 to the British with talking drums greeting their arrivals

And Jokers like you and the fish brain Ryder guy are clapping for yourselves over garbage research
You are bunch of scallywags and scattered brains....
Yeye de smell, I tell you

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gomojam: 11:22am On Apr 28
KingOKON:
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You and this Ryder you are quoting I don't know who is dumber and the chief crab brain.
Ilorin ceased to be a Yoruba town since 1829 after Afonja Kakonfa was longed killed like a dog by the Fulanis.
Ilorin was far an emirate and this lizard brain Ryder of a guy called it a Yoruba town.

Instead the Fulanis were busy rampaging Yoruba town and sending the captured Yoruba men and women as slaves to Mecca, how then was it possible that Ibadan under the mercies of the Fulanis could be a threat to Benin when they were panicking for their lives?

Fulanis destroyed old Oyo and Islamized every conquered territory and the Ryder guy just like a fish brain like you think they posed any threat to Benin, you both must be high on Oyemiran weed.

Mind you as at this time in Lagos, the Oba of Benin still had Lagos under his control which was on thing the British authorities were scheming to take charge, which they eventually did and the exile of the Oba to calabar

The Fulani emirate and emir 1897 welcomed the British with no cough and the emir bowing down while the feared Oba was exiled, badan a city that just came into prominence around 1800 when Benin and other coastal towns had longed been dealing with slaves through ports like lagos, fell far earlier in 1893 to the British with talking drums greeting their arrivals

And Jokers like you and the fish brain Ryder guy are clapping for yourselves over garbage research
You are bunch of scallywags and scattered brains....
Yeye de smell, I tell you
Where is Nisai? She knows your medication best.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 5:38am On Apr 29
gomojam:
Where is Nisai? She knows your medication best.
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Medication? When I got you all worthless lives in my hands
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by fregeneh(m): 5:58am On May 03
nisai:
This one has nothing coherent to type again after having been battered with evidence by an 'ordinary' lady. grin

What a person!

oga let us be guided sir there is nobody that's ordinary, human being are the same in intellect female or male
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by fregeneh(m): 6:24am On May 03
TAO12:
Haha! Finally, a screenshot which confirms my video of Edo’s 21st century return back home to Benin.

In other words, the enslaved Edos whom the Yorubas sold were too weak to demand freedom & repatriation back to Africa until 400 years later.

The enslaved Edos remained slaves in the Americas for 400 years. It took their descendants to leverage on the science of Genetics in order to map their way back home to Benin kingdom as the video below shows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM

See also:
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www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e

Cheers!

Madame professor please ma'am take easy with those Bini mis.crant don't let them commit suicide on your name ma'am

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by fregeneh(m): 6:40am On May 03
UGBE634:
shut up you fool when you don't know something you ask ivbiosakon are the afemai today they migrated from Benin just like the urhobos migrated from Benin but they are not Benins numbskulls they are the etsakos today wake me up up when you see an excerpt that talked about raiding Edo bini villages and I will take you serious even if lion injure dog still know he mate

wait are you staying those palaces were not part of your so called empire ? if yes that means the imaginary empire is not more than three LGAs
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 1:20pm On May 03
UGBE634:
when they said Benin there, they meant the empire which afemai villages were a part of, they migrated from Benin does not make them Bini. the very group called Bini is the very group called Edo. these afemai groups are edoid groups not Edo. I can see the name of the state is what is confusing you, the people called Edo are the people living in and around Benin city. I said you should wake me up when ogendegbe got to ewu, esanland. then I will take you serious, EHOR is too far. even if lion injure, dog still know he mate. The areas they disturbed as seen from your excerpt above were the extreme northern end of the empire

Ogedengbe didn't reach anywhere dont let these pained Yorubas suffering from argumentative disorder lie to you..
Ogedengbe was just a bandit raiding small farm settlements at border villages, when he learnt benin forces were on the way to confront him he fled.. the benin general that informed him of Benin plans to capture him was executed for that..
Ogedengbe the thief was latter hanged for stealing a goat..
Yorubas have no heroes to celebrate so they praise their thieves and their slave raiders..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:35pm On May 03
fregeneh:


oga let us be guided sir there is nobody that's ordinary, human being are the same in intellect female or male
Oga read well before mentioning someone. The "ordinary" is in quote.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:37am On May 08
davidnazee:


Ogedengbe didn't reach anywhere dont let these pained Yorubas suffering from argumentative disorder lie to you..
Ogedengbe was just a bandit raiding small farm settlements at border villages, when he learnt benin forces were on the way to confront him he fled.. the benin general that informed him of Benin plans to capture him was executed for that..
Ogedengbe the thief was latter hanged for stealing a goat..
Yorubas have no heroes to celebrate so they praise their thieves and their slave raiders..

EDOIRISIAGBON
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:20pm On May 08
KingOKON:
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Medication? When I got you all worthless lives in my hands
This loudmouthed swine is still rumbling. I guess the koboko left a permanent pain and unforgettable scar on your worthless skull.

Erukeru abi lala lenu grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:21pm On May 08
nisai:
This loudmouthed swine is still rumbling. I guess the koboko left a permanent pain and unforgettable scar on your worthless skull.

Erukeru abi lala lenu grin
cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:24pm On May 08
TAO11:
cheesy
grin grin Beeni. Bi eru o ba mo aiye re eje a fi ewon han kole mo wipe eni igbekun lohun nse. grin

How u dey?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:28pm On May 08
nisai:
grin grin Beeni. Bi eru o ba mo aiye re eje a fi ewon han kole mo wipe eni igbekun lohun nse. grin

How u dey?
I’m good jarey.

I was having some good time giving these liars some negative fame on Nairaland.

I am sure they are already very infamous by now. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:43pm On May 08
TAO11:
I’m good jarey.

I was having some good time giving these liars some negative fame on Nairaland.

I am sure they are already very famous by now. cheesy
Infamous rather. You exposed them as empty "wannabe" lying bastards bereft of basic knowledge of historiography.

Can you imagine them forming history in their heads and calling their king liar.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:44pm On May 08
nisai:
Infamous rather. You exposed them as empty "wannabe" lying bastards bereft of basic knowledge of historiography.

Can you imagine them forming history in their heads and calling their king liar.
TRUE! @ infamous.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 10:17pm On May 08
TAO11:
TRUE! @ infamous.
Tao, was Ijebu under Oyo empire? All people have been bringing as evidence are mere tales. I want to know.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 11:14pm On May 08
nisai:
Tao, was Ijebu under Oyo empire? All people have been bringing as evidence are mere tales. I want to know.
Short Answer: No!

Longer Answer: The Ijebu kingdom was independent of Oyo’s control and domination despite some Oyo traditions which may be stretched to the contrary.

Such traditions (although not explicit in the first place) have been understood by historians to be the typical exaggerations expected to have emanated from the excessive praise of the powerful kingdom by its court arokins.

However, there is strong evidence consistent all over Yorubaland which shows that Yoruba kings in general (including those independent of the Alaafin’s control) deferred to him in different ways including in resolving their internal and inter-kingdom disputes.

But to be clear, at the peak of the Alaafin’s empire, he was the richest, most powerful, and most influential of all Yoruba kings.

Moreover, during that same period of Oyo’s peak, the Awujale is second only to the Alaafin, in Yorubaland, in wealth, power, and influence.

Cheers!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 11:39pm On May 08
TAO11:
Short Answer: No!

Longer Answer: The Ijebu kingdom was independent of Oyo’s control and domination despite some Oyo traditions which may be stretched to suggest that.

Such accounts (although not explicit in the first place) have been understood by historians to be the typical exaggerations expected to have emanated from the excessive praise of the powerful kingdom by its court arokins.

However, there is strong evidence consistent all over Yorubaland which shows that Yoruba kings in general (including those independent of the Alaafin’s control) deferred to him in different ways including in resolving their internal and inter-kingdom disputes.

But to be clear, at the peak of the Alaafin’s empire, he was the richest, most powerful, and most influential of all Yoruba kings.

Moreover, during that same period of Oyo’s peak, the Awujale is second only to the Alaafin, in Yorubaland, in wealth, power, and influence.

Cheers!
Thank you.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 6:21pm On May 09
TAO11:
cheesy
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Olodo

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 6:23pm On May 09
nisai:
Thank you.
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Chief Olodo, nothing absolute nothing up there

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 7:57pm On May 09
KingOKON:
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Chief Olodo, nothing absolute nothing up there
I am olodo that seeks knowledge with humility, not olodo who prides himself in ignorance like you. Do you know how much disgrace you have brought upon your entire Edo group here with your arrogance in ignorance?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 9:27pm On May 09
nisai:
I am olodo that seeks knowledge with humility, not olodo who prides himself in ignorance like you. Do you know how much disgrace you have brought upon your entire Edo group here with your arrogance in ignorance?


You be typical yoruba bigot a look at your profile and the people you follow shows how stinking your bigotry is,

All most all of your followers are yoruba not just only they are yoruba but bigoted tribalistic ones at that

Rid yourself from your own shackles
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 12:53am On May 10
gregyboy:


You be typical yoruba bigot a look at your profile and the people you follow shows how stinking your bigotry is,

All most all of your followers are yoruba not just only they are yoruba but bigoted tribalistic ones at that

Rid yourself from your own shackles
If I no follow Yoruba na Edo revisionists like u make I follow? Clown grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 2:46am On May 10
nisai:
I am olodo that seeks knowledge with humility, not olodo who prides himself in ignorance like you. Do you know how much disgrace you have brought upon your entire Edo group here with your arrogance in ignorance?



Disgrace
That Oduduwa and Oranmiyan aren't same with King Arthur and Merlin or Robin hood, you can remain in your olodoship while we pride ourselves with common sense j
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:05pm On May 10
KingOKON:


Disgrace
That Oduduwa and Oranmiyan aren't same with King Arthur and Merlin or Robin hood, you can remain in your olodoship while we pride ourselves with common sense j
Unfortunately, only your common sense is useless in the discourse of history without evidence.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 3:40am On May 11
nisai:
Unfortunately, only your common sense is useless in the discourse of history without evidence.
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Evidence like Oduduwa is from Ife Mecca or Jerusalem...... Yeye de smell
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 11:31am On May 11
KingOKON:
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Evidence like Oduduwa is from Ife Mecca or Jerusalem...... Yeye de smell
Yoruba language is better than yours. Atleast, the Yoruba stretches as far as Near East,despite the fact that Hausa language is classified as Asiatic language .

After all, Yoruba language has more words related to Arabic,ancient Hebrew,Coptic language (still brought to Egypt by Hebrew settlers who were earliest Christians in Egypt ). Infact, your bantoid language is not recognised. angry grin cheesy Why do feel pained ?
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 12:13pm On May 11
Olu317:


After all, Yoruba language has more words related to Arabic,ancient Hebrew,Coptic language (still brought to Egypt by Hebrew settlers who were earliest Christians in Egypt ). Infact, your bantoid language is not recognised. angry grin cheesy Why do feel pained ?

Yoruba language has Arabic words because of the fulani conquests and islamization of the Yorubas. How do u find joy in your defeat?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 4:29pm On May 11
davidnazee:


Yoruba language has Arabic words because of the fulani conquests and islamization of the Yorubas. How do u find joy in your defeat?
You are so inconsequential before me. This is the reason I dont pay attention to your geometric lies.

Islam had been amongst Yorubas before Fulanis were even muslims.

Did Yoruba learn how to go into sacred chamber backwardly as being done in Kaaba from Fulanis?

Does Fula language looks Arabic to your ignorant knowledge ?

Did Fulani now what is known amongst Arabs as Il Raml and Yorubas oRumiela(RML~root) ? divination system

Beliieve it or not, I am not interested in giving out references to you lot but to make your unclad knowledge wacked and know your ancestors were covered with knowledge through your ancient mothers ,whence ancient Yorubas married them.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 4:49pm On May 11
KingOKON:


Disgrace
That Oduduwa and Oranmiyan aren't same with King Arthur and Merlin or Robin hood, you can remain in your olodoship while we pride ourselves with common sense j
You are highly ignorant like your pained like minds because even England monarchial system, was a baby before Yoruba monarchial system medieval era. Compare Yoruba Pure virtual Art Bronze, Copper head.

So your fairytale Arthur was no with the knowledge of these things and not in league with Yoruba language that stood firm for thousands of years, when English language around 11th-13th century was running helter-skelter to have a grip on her language and her kingdom. Ooni has reigned before Yorubaland in Nigeria. How much your own ancestors history and language ? Post your ancestors story and let us know if you have Neanderthal genes grin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 4:50pm On May 11
Olu317:
You are so inconsequential before me. This is the reason I dont pay attention to your geometric lies.

Islam had been amongst Yorubas before Fulanis were even muslims.

Did Yoruba learn how to go into sacred chamber backwardly as being done in Kaaba from Fulanis?

Does Fula language looks Arabic to your ignorant knowledge ?

Did Fulani now what is known amongst Arabs as Il Raml and Yorubas oRumiela(RML~root) ? divination system

Beliieve it or not, I am not interested in giving out references to you lot but to make your unclad knowledge wacked and know your ancestors were covered with knowledge through your ancient mothers ,whence ancient Yorubas married them.

Sorry oooo.. i thought it was fulanis that conquered your ancestors and brought Arab culture to you.. didn't know it was the arabs themselves that conquered you.
Sorry ooo but bottomline is that you were conquered hence the traces of Arabic language in your yoruba language
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 5:02pm On May 11
davidnazee:


Sorry oooo.. i thought it was fulanis that conquered your ancestors and brought Arab culture to you.. didn't know it was the arabs themselves that conquered you.
Sorry ooo but bottomline is that you were conquered hence the traces of Arabic language in your yoruba language
Google will help you know on geomancy to so that Yoruba ifaodu is ageless and the first one who did lot cast is unknown.

Meanwhile Arab knowledge of lot cast is credited to the ancient Hebrew priest. grin grin. Guess who ? Help yourself with research man. In the peak of a Yorubaman, he becomes a god (rìṣá) as christians reference Pope. The pioneer of this personality was the first awni-auni-ooni(owner) and subsequently ones.

Open yours and read account of visitors to Bini Book Serial: Ile-Ife: City of 201 gods (2)
Prof. Jacob Olupona

THE Portuguese image of Ile Ife: The Europeans
saw Ile-Ife as the preeminent city-state and as
an important ceremonial centre in what was
then often referred to as “the Negro world.”
The seafaring Portuguese, the first Europeans
to explore the coast of West Africa, arrived in
the fifteenth century.

Although they had heard much about the city of Ile-Ife, their inability to access interior forested regions made contact very difficult. However, the Portuguese
recorded their impressions of the importance
of this ancient city, especially of its artistic and
historical relationship and connection to the
kingdom of Benin, with which the Portuguese
had earlier contact.

Writing in his navigational guidebook Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis, the well-known Portuguese explorer Duarte Pacheco Pereira noted that to the east of the Benin Kingdom,about one hundred leagues (four hundred
miles) inland, was a country with a king named
Licasaguou, who was said to be lord of many
people and to possess great power. Close by,
Pereira explained, another great lord,Hooguanee, “is considered among the Negroes as the Pope is among us.”

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