So, Grace is a divine enablement bestowed on a person. It is assumed that everyone came to this world with a 'talent' ; something they do better than others naturally or a ' something special' about them. As a Christian, God gives you grace in line with His divine purpose in you.

You should observe and identify yours and make good use of it/them.

Mine are;

1. People generally accept my person wherever I go.
2. I look rich even if I put on cheap stuff or unfashionable wears.
3. If you cheat me or treat me shabbily without offense on my part, and I am pained, you are in trouble! I've seen people who did that, lose their jobs or even their business.
4. I have a natural ability to teach/do a presentation and make people understand my subject and love my person.

What is/are yours?

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l may not have money today, but things always fine tuned itself to my favour.


All l'm saying is that, the grace on me has always ensure that l'm not embarrassed in life!!!

Ladies flock around some particular men. no matter how ugly they are, girls will just be falling upon themselves on them. Yoruba people will say ‘olori obirin’.

Is that also a grace? What kind of grace is that one?

Melancholy:
l may not have money today, but things always fine tuned itself to my favour.

All l'm saying is that, the grace on me has always ensure that l'm not embarrassed in life!!!

This is what you believe the grace of God refers to?

danberg:
So, Grace is a divine enablement bestowed on a person. It is assumed that everyone came to this world with a 'talent' ; something they do better than others naturally or a ' something special' about them. As a Christian, God gives you grace in line with His divine purpose in you.

You should observe and identify yours and make good use of it/them.

Mine are;

1. People generally accept my person wherever I go.
2. I look rich even if I put on cheap stuff or unfashionable wears.
3. If you cheat me or treat me shabbily without offense on my part, and I am pained, you are in trouble! I've seen people who did that, lose their jobs or even their business.
4. I have a natural ability to teach/do a presentation and make people understand my subject and love my person.

What is/are yours?
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This is what the grace of God means to you?

iamDrRhymes:
Ladies flock around some particular men. no matter how ugly they are, girls will just be falling upon themselves on them. Yoruba people will say ‘olori obirin’.

Is that also a grace? What kind of grace is that one?

It is!!
God has a plan for that. Why don't you ask Him? It may be that God wants to use you specially to reach out to women!
Bishop T.D. James has such a great outreach for women known as 'Woman Though Art Loosed'.

Unfortunately, many use it as an occasion to bed as many women as possible, thinking it's an achievement.

danberg:

It is!!
God has a plan for that. Why don't you ask Him? It may be that God wants to use you specially to reach out to women!
Bishop T.D. James has such a great outreach for women known as 'Woman Though Art Loosed'.

Unfortunately, many use it as an occasion to bed as many women as possible, thinking it's an achievement.

So God's grace on him is that he is a magnet for women?

And the many unbelievers out there that have the same appeal are also graced by God in that way? This is your understanding of God's grace?

Kobojunkiee:
This is what the grace of God means to you?

Actually, one of the synonyms of Grace is 'acceptability'. Read my first point again and feel free to share yours. Remember there are several types of graces.

Some are able to turn anything to money even without formal education. Others can persuade the devil himself! Some are graced with infinite patience and tolerance others are not. Some can make a delicious meal out of little, you follow?
This is akin to talent in some respects.

danberg:

Actually, one of the synonyms of Grace is 'acceptability'. Read my first point again and feel free to share yours. Remember there are several types of graces.

Some are able to turn anything to money even without formal education. Others can persuade the devil himself! Some are graced with infinite patience and tolerance others are not. Some can make a delicious meal out of little, you follow?
This is akin to talent in some respects.

But think on this thing. The Grace of God implies accebility in the sight of God or in the sight of men?

Talent, luck, kismet, jojo... what have any of these to do with God and His grace?

Kobojunkiee:
So God's grace on him is that he is a magnet for women?

And the many unbelievers out there that have the same appeal are also graced by God in that way? This is your understanding of God's grace?

Understand that Grace is so very broad and all encompassing! It's a divine influence over a person (Christian or not) which makes certain things happen to him/her with almost no effort!
However, what you do with it as a Christian is important as you would give account to God on the last day.

Bible talks of the Grace of Jesus's Christ which brought us salvation. We made no effort, it was grace! There almost countless other types that men received whether they are conscious of it or not.

Kobojunkiee:
But think on this thing. The Grace of God implies accebility in the sight of God or in the sight of men?

Talent, luck, kismet, jojo... what have any of these to do with God and His grace?

Acceptability in the sight of God and men.
There are some similarities but Grace is higher. For example, you may have a natural grace which makes everyone around you want to be in your circle. That's not luck or talent now, is it?

danberg:

Understand that Grace is so very broad and all encompassing! It's a divine influence over a person (Christian or not) which makes certain things happen to him/her with almost no effort!
However, what you do with it as a Christian is important as you would give account to God on the last day.

Bible talks of the Grace of Jesus's Christ which brought us salvation. We made no effort, it was grace! There almost countless other types that men received whether they are conscious of it or not.

So, the grace of God is on all mankind, and is broad, but the grace of Jesus Christ is not since it simply brings us Salvation?

Melancholy:
l may not have money today, but things always fine tuned itself to my favour.


All l'm saying is that, the grace on me has always ensure that l'm not embarrassed in life!!!

That is grace!
Someone else who doesn't have such may end up frustrated, depressed or even suicidal.

danberg:

Acceptability in the sight of God and men.
There are some similarities but Grace is higher. For example, you may have a natural grace which makes everyone around you want to be in your circle. That's not luck or talent now, is it?

Acceptability in the sight of God is what?

danberg:

That is grace!
Someone else who doesn't have such may end up frustrated, depressed or even suicidal.

So those who are frustrated, depressed or even suicidal are so because they lack the grace of God?

Also note that, God personally gives MORE GRACE to the humble generally. James 4:6

Meaning that you get additional grace just for being humble.

Grace should not be mistaken for skill. A person may be a great speaker through training. Another, a well-trained persuasive talker who can squeeze out donations or investments from anyone they come across. I have met one of such people before; he raised over N20 million sharing his ideas with complete strangers over a short period !
Though, some have natural abilities for that.

Kobojunkiee:
So those who are frustrated, depressed or even suicidal are so because they lack the grace of God?

That particular type of grace is what they lack.
They need to put in serious effort if they go broke; such as phoning/meeting family and friends, borrowing etc, or there would be trouble.

Kobojunkiee:
Acceptability in the sight of God is what?

Means you may get away with what some else get dealt with for. Remember God says; "I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy and compassion on whom I will have compassion ". Romans 9:15

danberg:

That particular type of grace is what they lack.
They need to put in serious effort if they go broke; such as phoning/meeting family and friends, borrowing etc, or there would be trouble.

So they are losers as far as the grace lottery which you describe here?

danberg:

Means you may get away with what some else get dealt with for. Remember God says; "I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy and compassion on whom I will have compassion ". Romans 9:15

So by this you imply that God's word cannot always be trusted, as you suggest there that God is not fair in His judgments?

Kobojunkiee:
So they are losers as far as the grace lottery which you describe here?

Look at it this way, using the human body which we all have; some are more endowed in areas others are not. I have a cousin who has big well-built thighs naturally which I covet. I have a big chest making people think I'm fit from weight-lifting.

Same with ladies; you see many on instagram who did surgeries for a body type that another has naturally. Would you term them losers? Well, I don't think so. There's something unique to each one of us. Discover your own, embrace it and most importantly, use it!

Kobojunkiee:
So by this you imply that God's word cannot always be trusted, as you suggest there that God is not fair in His judgments?

Where did I imply that? Did you read Romans 9:15? I didn't write the Bible. You can have your arguement with your Maker whenever you go to Him.

danberg:

Look at it this way, using the human body which we all have; some are more endowed in areas others are not. I have a cousin who has big well-built thighs naturally which I covet. I have a big chest making people think I'm fit from weight-lifting.

Same with ladies; you see many on instagram who did surgeries for a body type that another has naturally. Would you term them losers? Well, I don't think so. There's something unique to each one of us. Discover your own, embrace it and most importantly, use it!

So one who is made handsome by God is graced with handsomeness and one who is has an ugly face is graced with an ugly face by God?

So here again, the purpose of this grace you speak of is as judged by humans and not God.

danberg:

Where did I imply that? Did you read Romans 9:15? I didn't write the Bible. You can have your arguement with your Maker whenever you go to Him.

Paul's letter to the Jewish Christians in the city of Rome at hjs time is not to be confused with God's Word since Paul never in fact declared "Thus saith the Lord...".
For an idea of the Maker's judgement we have examples where God Himself swears by His name, saying,"...the one who sins will die.", in Ezekiel 18.

Kobojunkiee:
So one who is made handsome by God is graced with handsomeness and one who is has an ugly face is graced with an ugly face by God?

So here again, the purpose of this grace you speak of is as judged by humans and not God.

I used our natural bodily differences for illustration purposes only. Nowhere did I ascribe our bodily features to Grace.

Kobojunkiee:
Paul's letter to the Jewish Christians in the city of Rome at hjs time is not to be confused with God's Word since Paul never in fact declared "Thus saith the Lord...".
For an idea of the Maker's judgement we have examples where God Himself swears by His name, saying,"...the one who sins will die.", in Ezekiel 18.

If only you read that scripture (Rom 9:15), you would have seen that Paul was quoting from Exodus 33:19.
Oh, and these were God's own spoken words written in the first person.

danberg:

If only you read that scripture (Rom 9:15), you would have seen that Paul was quoting from Exodus 33:19.
Oh, and these were God's own spoken words written in the first person.

I was trying to follow along with your line of reasoning there that proposes that because God shows mercy to anyone He will implies God pardons some errors based on the person's "grace" and condemns others who are less fortunate, grace-wise,

I know they are God's words, what I don't know of is your particular interpretation of God's Word.

danberg:

I used our natural bodily differences for illustration purposes only. Nowhere did I ascribe our bodily features to Grace.

Ok, so a person's "giftedness" is God's grace to such a one? .