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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by 2elliot: 12:56am On Apr 28
Naajjii:
They keep complaining about one Nigeria forgetting that it was their past leaders like Azikwe that fought hard to keep one Nigeria. All of you Nyamiri, IPOD Terrorist, ESN go and talk to your past leaders who ensured that we got one NIGERIA
Fought hard? How many people did he kill to keep Nigeria as one?

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by 2elliot: 1:06am On Apr 28
theTranslator:

I will read about the Aburi agreement
Awolowo said that the Biafran soldiers were confisticating the food
You can't feed your enemy
it's not done
it will only elongate the war

@ underlined that's not true
except if Nairaland igbos don't qualify as igbos
they mocked us to scorn
I can show you posts
It was just for Awolowo to point to Gowon the need to respect the Aburi Accord. That would have been enough. Whether Gowon heeds to his council or not, he is not to blame and history would have been kind to him in that regards. And I believe things probably would have gone differently.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 1:07am On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
Where you able to hate miyyeti Allah Fulani herdsmen when they killed Mr idam and his family rape his wive and daughter before hacking them open with matchete in ebonyi

Did you hate miyyetti Allah and Fulani herdsmen when they kidnapped and raped a yoruba woman with her daughter then killed her daughter afterwards along Lagos ore road when she recently came back from abroad then released her?

Did you hate on police and army killing ESN operatives for chasing Fulani herdsmen out of indigenous peoples land?

Did you listen to the video of Samuel Orton today?

When you want to start your hate....hate the army that knelt down to shoot our mother point in Aba for protesting

IF ESN ARE TERRORIST THEN HISBA IS TERRORIST, AMOTEKUN IS TERRORIST, POLICE AND ARMY, DSS ARE ALL TERRORIST

if KANU is promoting violence what did Samuel Orton said BUHARI is doing with Fulani in that headline below

Orton is not IPOB AND BUHARI IS NOT NNAMDI KANU...YET SOMEONE HE'S PROMOTING VIOLENCE

all this doesn't change the facts on ground
I don't hate anyone
nnamdi is just a deranged opportunist
I don't support the government neither do I support nnamdi
violence takes one backwards
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 1:09am On Apr 28
2elliot:
Fought hard? How many people did he kill to keep Nigeria as one?
does that mean he didn't fight hard

his decision to make the north part of Nigeria has caused millions of deaths
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 1:12am On Apr 28
valentineuwakwe:
I am still saying it, Azikiwe is the cause of the problem Nigeria andnthe eastern region is facing today. .his selfish ambition of rulling Nigeria clouded his senses of how the future will be today....
food for thought...
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by 2elliot: 1:19am On Apr 28
theTranslator:

I didn't say Awolowo believed in restructuring
I said he believed in regional governance which still existed to an extent at that time

yes most the food wasn't from Nigeria agreed
but it doesn't change anything
you can't allow the enemy in a war to be strengthened
most of the bloodshedding were very avoidable especially that of the war
and now nnamdi is championing a course that will lead to more blood letting
blood is not what forms a nation
reasonable sacrifice and wisdom does
You are towing the part of history that out progeneitors followed that caused us all the pains we are are enduring today, and make leave for the next generations to come. That is that, we don't speak truth to power. The white men who sat at the roundtable at the Berlin conference to divide africa did not do so with gun fights. The company that sold Nigeria to the British Queen did not do that through gun fighting, and luckily our freedom fighters who were able to persuade the colonial forces did not do that through war. But we now have leaders who enjoy and envy the brutaĺ of rape our collective humanity by the colonial masters have continue from where they stopped. And worst still, we now lack men who can stand against their barbarism.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by 2elliot: 1:29am On Apr 28
valentineuwakwe:
I am still saying it, Azikiwe is the cause of the problem Nigeria andnthe eastern region is facing today. .his selfish ambition of rulling Nigeria clouded his senses of how the future will be today....
In what way is he the cause? At the time Nationalists were fighting to see that all black men become free, it was just common sense to ask the north to join in that window of opportunity to be free from the british rule. There is notĥing selfish in what he did at that moment. The north's inferiority complex took the best of them.
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 7:07am On Apr 28
theTranslator:

all this doesn't change the facts on ground
I don't hate anyone
nnamdi is just a deranged opportunist
I don't support the government neither do I support nnamdi
violence takes one backwards
Violence also bring about positive change

You said you don't support government neither do you support NNAMDI KANU but your yet to say what the government is....you have picked a side already...

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by bisi16(m): 8:23am On Apr 28
ImmaculateJOE:
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U dey sell space ni?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 9:59am On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
Violence also bring about positive change

You said you don't support government neither do you support NNAMDI KANU but your yet to say what the government is....you have picked a side already...
this is a sovereign state with a democratically elected government
nnamdi is in the UK plotting
that's not how a freedom fighter operates

I will always support the government when security officials are killed


sorry for the late reply
I was banned
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 10:00am On Apr 28
bisi16:

U dey sell space ni?
the guy is senseless
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by gidgiddy: 10:16am On Apr 28
theTranslator:
(1953) NNAMDI AZIKIWE, “SPEECH ON SECESSION”
SEPTEMBER 2, 2009 / CONTRIBUTED BY: BLACKPAST
In 1953 when Northern Nigerians were beginning to consider secession from the Nigerian colony that would soon be a nation, Nnamdi Azikiwe gave a speech before the caucus of his political party, the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) in Yaba, Nigeria on May 12, 1953. That speech, while not disallowing secession, suggested that there would be grave consequences if the Northern region became an independent nation. Ironically, fourteen years later, Azikiwe led his Eastern Region out of Nigeria and created Biafra, a move that prompted a bloody three year civil war. Azikiwe’s 1953 speech appears below.




1. Zik is entitled to his opinion. Zik was nobody in 1953 to determine for the North what to do. If the North wants to secede from Nigeria, nobody can stop them. The North stayed in Nigeria of their own accord

2. Zik did not lead his people out of Nigeria, Ojukwu did. Zik initially supported Biafra but later ran back to his "one Nigeria"


3. Had Zik been alive today to witness what is happening in Nigeria, he would have regretted every second he ever wasted believing in "one Nigeria"

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 10:20am On Apr 28
gidgiddy:




1. Zik is entitled to his opinion. Zik was nobody in 1953 to determine for the North what to do. If the North wants to secede from Nigeria, nobody can stop them. The North stayed in Nigeria of their own accord

2. Zik did not lead his people out of Nigeria, Ojukwu did. Zik initially supported Biafra but later ran back to his "one Nigeria"


3. Had Zik been alive today to witness what is happening in Nigeria, he would have regretted every second he ever wasted believing in "one Nigeria"
he was not a nobody
he had many British allies

and Awolowo had similar sentiments

so why demonize Awolowo and call Azikwe the great zik of Africa"?

is that not hypocritical?

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 10:22am On Apr 28
theTranslator:

this is a sovereign state with a democratically elected government
nnamdi is in the UK plotting
that's not how a freedom fighter operates

I will always support the government when security officials are killed


sorry for the late reply
I was banned
sorry about the ban...There's nothing Democratic about Nigeria not even its amalgamation

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 10:59am On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
sorry about the ban...There's nothing Democratic about Nigeria not even its amalgamation

well
eating French bagels and drinking Spanish sparkling wine in the UK while sending boys who donate to their deaths is not exile
face the reality
nnamdi is not a freedom fighter
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by pricklewane: 11:09am On Apr 28
tommy589:
Azikiwe's father was Lugard's personal secretary. His dad as Lugard's confidant ought to be aware ahead of 1914 amalgamation proclamation. Maybe that is one of many reasons for his pro union sentiment.

Personally, I see nothing wrong in this union if merit and reward has been accorded their rightful place

In the next 40 years your children might live to regret this with you not being able to help cos you might have departed to hell or wherever your foolishness led u. So with all that is happening you are still willing to risk the lives of your unborn generations with Northerners.
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by pricklewane: 11:13am On Apr 28
Hopefully your unborn generation till their own 7th generation will share in the pain. Sorrow or joy the almagation Azikwe orchestrated brought.

No need telling you people what a foolish soul he was again since bigotry as ruined your life.


ezenwajosh:
GOD FORBID I ENJOY ONE NIGERIA

AZIKIWE DID NOT STOP THEM FROM GOING.... AZIKIWE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THEY ARE THE REASON WHY NIGERIA WAS JOINED TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE OF THE POOR ECONOMY IN THE NORTH.... AZIKIWE WAS EVEN LOOKING OUT FOR THEM ASKING THEM HOW THEY WILL SURVIVE POINTING OUT THAT HE WAS BORN, RAISED AND GREW UP IN THE NORTH AND HE KNOWS HOW IT IS FOR THE NORTH..... AS USUAL TRYING TO PLEASE AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM..... IT WAS EVEN A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND AFTER THE DISCUSSION THE NORTH DECIDED THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYMORE

AZIKIWE DIDN'T ORDER A SHOOT AT SIGHT FOR ANY NOTHERNER ASKING TO LEAVE NIGERIA
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by pricklewane: 11:17am On Apr 28
You Igbos keep shouting Aburi Aburi Aburi.
Let's say one chose to argue like a rationale being can Igbos tell us what was contained in Aburi accord that was lacking in regional government before the millitary orchestrated the first coup ?


ezenwajosh:
We never hated Awolowo for that... We hated Awolowo for the war....

HE HAD RGIONAL GOVERNMENT IN MIND(RESTRUCTURING)
what was agreed in aburi accord (restructuring)
Then Ojukwu and GOWON(who is from platue state) came back and GOWON after being approached by Britain refused to hold up to his end of the signed RESTRUCTURING that was agreed(remember today the people of platue has been over runned by one Nigeria jihadists) ... Now Ojukwu had to declare a state of biafra

Now Awolowo who should say GOWON YOU GOT IT WRONG AND YOU'RE AT FAULT BY NOT HOLDING UP TO WHAT WAS AGREED ON SIDED WITH GOWON AND BLAMED OJUKWU(just like telling the village that was massacred by fulani herdsmen that it's their fault they were killed because they refused RUGA settlement) AND EVEN WENT AS FAR AS SUGGESTING AND USING HUNGER AS A WEAPON OF WAR



TODAY YORUBA PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN SUFFERED HALF THE KILLING OF IGBOS IN NIGERIA BUT THEY WANT OUT..... THEY NOW SEEING SAME THING OJUKWU SAW IN THE CONFIGURATION OF FULANI NORTHERN POLITICS

Am sorry it's all in caps

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by pricklewane: 11:26am On Apr 28
I know it was a waste trying to reason rationally with clowns like you. How well did the blockade go ? Who was begging to have food transportes from to the SW.

What prove do you have Awo blockade food to Igbos during the war ?

You are yet to answer why demand was in Aburi accord that was lacking in regional government practices before the coup n if there was nothing different why did the Igbos orchestrated the coup. If there is no justifiable reason why Igbos initiated that coup should your unborn generations not be made to pay for that ?


ezenwajosh:
Alright...Awolowo didn't do the right thing to stop the war.... All he had to do was tell GOWON you're at fault your defaulted your signed agreement in aburi but instead he sided with GOWON and blamed Ojukwu and even suggested hunger as a weapon of war.... And to understand how wicked the north are they tried to use same food blockade on Yoruba people few months ago just to remind them we know the history but we only chose to play dumb and stupid when it suits us but guess what.... Igbos never blamed Yoruba market fight for the food blockade that spread the whole South we stood in solidarity and said to them to hell with that food

I can tell you that if that market fight that led to food blockade was to happen in South East.... South East will be blamed and nobody will stand in solidarity with them

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by gidgiddy: 11:48am On Apr 28
theTranslator:

he was not a nobody
he had many British allies

and Awolowo had similar sentiments

so why demonize Awolowo and call Azikwe the great zik of Africa"?

is that not hypocritical?

What is the point of all this? That Zik had an opinion? Isnt Zik entitled to his opinion? If it is Ziks opinion that the North should not secede, it is still the North's choice. Zik did not own Nigeria or the North.

This thread is pointless
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 11:55am On Apr 28
gidgiddy:


What is the point of all this? That Zik had an opinion? Isnt Zik entitled to his opinion? If it is Ziks opinion that the North should not secede, it is still the North's choice. Zik did not own Nigeria or the North.

This thread is pointless
this thread was created for purpose of history

answer my question


why is Awolowo demonized by the east when Azikwe had the same sentiments?

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AdakaBoro8(m): 11:56am On Apr 28
afonjaconehead afonjaheadhunt gidgiddy ekealterego nigercity notasyouthink with their fellow zombies will not comment on this..

when a bad system is favour ibos they will do everything to force u into it... thesame thing ironsi did to niger deltans 1967... igbos blindly deeds are the reasons everyone is caged in this nigeria.. thank God they are the ones feeling consequency the most.. when karma say to igbo, who are we to say no?

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AdakaBoro8(m): 12:02pm On Apr 28
Ojiofor:
Did he send military to crush them for asking for secession or he used superior argument to win them over.
yes. he would do it should defile his threat to stage a protest... ironsi and ojukwu did it to niger deltans..
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AdakaBoro8(m): 12:07pm On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
GOD FORBID I ENJOY ONE NIGERIA

AZIKIWE DID NOT STOP THEM FROM GOING.... AZIKIWE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THEY ARE THE REASON WHY NIGERIA WAS JOINED TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE OF THE POOR ECONOMY IN THE NORTH.... AZIKIWE WAS EVEN LOOKING OUT FOR THEM ASKING THEM HOW THEY WILL SURVIVE POINTING OUT THAT HE WAS BORN, RAISED AND GREW UP IN THE NORTH AND HE KNOWS HOW IT IS FOR THE NORTH..... AS USUAL TRYING TO PLEASE AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM..... IT WAS EVEN A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND AFTER THE DISCUSSION THE NORTH DECIDED THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYMORE

AZIKIWE DIDN'T ORDER A SHOOT AT SIGHT FOR ANY NOTHERNER ASKING TO LEAVE NIGERIA
then why did ironsi and ojukwu gave shoot a sight order?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by gidgiddy: 12:11pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

this thread was created for purpose of history

answer my question


why is Awolowo demonized by the east when Azikwe had the same sentiments?

Your history is baseless because the opinion of Zik at the time that Nigeria should be one was shared many people including the common man on the street

As for Awolowo, he is demonised in the East for the role he played in the war
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 12:12pm On Apr 28
AdakaBoro8:
then why did ironsi and ojukwu gave shoot a sight order?
on who?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 12:15pm On Apr 28
pricklewane:
I know it was a waste trying to reason rationally with clowns like you. How well did the blockade go ? Who was begging to have food transportes from to the SW.

What prove do you have Awo blockade food to Igbos during the war ?

You are yet to answer why demand was in Aburi accord that was lacking in regional government practices before the coup n if there was nothing different why did the Igbos orchestrated the coup. If there is no justifiable reason why Igbos initiated that coup should your unborn generations not be made to pay for that ?


Hope you know same thing that brought about the coup is what Samuel Ortom is accusing BUHARI of doing today?

Hope you knew the coup happened so that Awolowo can be installed as head of state?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AdakaBoro8(m): 12:16pm On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
on who?
on niger deltans
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 12:16pm On Apr 28
pricklewane:
You Igbos keep shouting Aburi Aburi Aburi.
Let's say one chose to argue like a rationale being can Igbos tell us what was contained in Aburi accord that was lacking in regional government before the millitary orchestrated the first coup ?


was regional government the reason for the coup? You mean igbos planned a coup against regional government when the amalgamation was forcefully done to use the resources in the south to help the economy of the north?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 12:25pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

well
eating French bagels and drinking Spanish sparkling wine in the UK while sending boys who donate to their deaths is not exile
face the reality
nnamdi is not a freedom fighter
Even Nelson Mandela was tagged a terrorist and he came Igbo land to seek refuge while in nnewi he sends message across his people and still control their activity

KANU drinking Spanish wine and French bagels is a picture you saw him with his family after he escaped assassination in Nigeria and appeared in isreal then later went to UK to meet with his family

How he escaped Nigeria intelligence unit should have been a great concern to you....even today KANU might even be in Nigeria broadcasting

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