Olu317:
Liar

Don't just scream liar without providing any proof. Quote me here and respond to this you bloody liar, Olu I challenge you to provide any evidence for these lies about Yeṣua in Yorùbá traditional religion. Bloody liar, Mr Pinocchio

Olu317:
Liar

Don't just scream liar without providing any proof. Quote me here and respond to this you bloody liar, Olu I challenge you to provide any evidence for these lies about Yeṣua in Yorùbá traditional religion. Bloody liar, Mr Pinocchio

Dupamecano:


Don't forget the Rumawa who are believed to have originated from the Byzantine empire. The sharifai who are descendants of Muhammad Al Maghili and various other families who directly descended from Berbers and Arabs. In general Kano is a mixed bag of various sahelian and sudanian ethnic groups. Even the founding dynasty of the Kingdom Kano Kano are believed to be of eastern origin. Whether this is middle Eastern or eastern African is hard to determine.

Larabawa, Rumawa...
I don't understand how having a name for a people equates to "mixing" with those people in particular.

Kano just being a commercial hub doesn't make it a mixing ground, it's more complex than that.

And even though as I already admitted many West African groups have Eurasian genes, there are many factors involved... like how only a few hardly significant number of carries who first appeared in the region can have many descendants and the same genes gets passed like wildfire.
Hence as long as people have always been marrying foreigners you can't expect to be pure anything. No matter how many generations removed you are.

macof:

Larabawa, Rumawa...
I don't understand how having a name for a people equates to "mixing" with those people in particular.

Kano just being a commercial hub doesn't make it a mixing ground, it's more complex than that.

And even though as I already admitted many West African groups have Eurasian genes, there are many factors involved... like how only a few hardly significant number of carries who first appeared in the region can have many descendants and the same genes gets passed like wildfire.
Hence as long as people have always been marrying foreigners you can't expect to be pure anything. No matter how many generations removed you are.

I chose this specific example for a reason. The coming of Muhammad Al Maghili to Gao, Kano and Katsina is very well documented. It is documented in his journals, documented in the Tarikh al sudan, and documented in the Kano chronicle. He actually wrote a manuscript for the Sultan of Kano at the time Muhammad Rumfa. The fact that he bore children in Kano is also well documented. These children were with the local concubines hence it equates to foreigners mixing with the local population. He left these progenies behind in Kano where they've multiplied for over five hundred years. The Rumawa are recorded to have existed in Kano since before its inception in the days of Barbushe.

In Hausaland its very common for a faction of people to carry the names of their progenitor or a prominent member of their family. For instance the kano founding dynasty is divided into the gaudawa, rumfawa and kutumbawa, named after bagauda, muhammad rumfa and el kutumbi respectfully. This is one specific instance that was recorded in the 15th century and is one of many such movements whether with arabs, berbers or tuaregs, songhais Kanuris fulanis etc.

If you are any familiar with Kano history you'd know a vast majority of Kano's inhabitants today are immigrants from all around the sahel and a huge reason for its mammoth population. And when these people have all been mixing for centuries you'd have like I said, a cocktail for people. In the end these people were tagged with these names from their inception hence why they associated with it. The existence and proliferation of such people in Kano is unlike any other state apart from maybe Bornu.

gregyboy:


All yoruba groups were originally edoid who migrated west ward, and later intermixed with the few aborigines, nupes and fulani people over time


They kept their dark complexion to sgow their edo heritage, alongside some inherent ediod words

Ema tan ra yin je.. Yoruba migrated from Nowhere except Ile Ife... other groups might have come into our land that we assimilate them with their culture. how did Yoruba cross the Atlantic Ocean ? or it's pacific ocean ? why would they leave other parts of Nigeria especially their point of entry and came to Ile Ife to settle ? you people to give that away, our lives started from Ile Ife, it was water that separated Yoruba and Brazilian. go and study the Word Peleg. once u know the meaning go to the Bible and read what it means

Adeba01:
I found an interesting article on the yorubas, that I find very insightful, wherein in states that Yorubas have berber caucasiod through mixing with the fulanis.

Here is the link of the source, you will find the information fascinating :-

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Yorubas

What do you think?

Not only are the Yoruba people of Nigeria high in rh negative blood, they also carry Neanderthal DNA which is rare for Africa.

Examining the origin of rh negative blood and Neanderthal DNA within the Yoruba population may help determine the origin of rh negative blood.

According to a 2017 study, Yoruba people have ~31% prehistoric “Basal Human” (BE) admixture.

Inspirelove:


Ema tan ra yin je.. Yoruba migrated from Nowhere except Ile Ife... other groups might have come into our land that we assimilate them with their culture. how did Yoruba cross the Atlantic Ocean ? or it's pacific ocean ? why would they leave other parts of Nigeria especially their point of entry and came to Ile Ife to settle ? you people to give that away, our lives started from Ile Ife, it was water that separated Yoruba and Brazilian. go and study the Word Peleg. once u know the meaning go to the Bible and read what it means

Lol . What exactly is your anger if indeed, Yoruba have external link with EuroAsian ? Have you not read what geneticists make assertion on ? At times, I find someone like you seeing the truth but find it hard to come to term with it.

Kindly read, current information that litters the internet on DNA research about Yoruba and three other groups in West Africa which confirm that Neanderthal Arose 430,000 years ago and disappeared 40,000 years ago in the world.

And these hominids didn't come to Africa but their descendants gene can be found in Four West African populations which carry genes from what may be an undiscovered archaic hominin. This archaic group of humans seems likely to have diverged from the shared ancestor of Neanderthals, Denisovans and modern humans before these lineages split about 800,000 years ago.

Previous research has shown that Homo sapiens bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans after migrating from Africa, but little is known about the presence of genes from ancient hominins in people whose ancestors never left Africa, partly due to the difficulty of obtaining ancient DNA in hot climates where it can degrade.

Read more: A Genetic Ghost Hunt: What Ancient Humans Live On In Our DNA?

Any number of now-extinct human lineages that once existed within Africa may have hybridized with modern humans there as well. However, the sparse nature of the ancient human fossil record in Africa makes it difficult to identify DNA from such "ghost lineages" in modern humans.

Instead of hunting for ancient human fossils across Africa, the scientists looked for genetic traces of ghost lineages in modern Africans. They compared 405 genomes from modern people from West Africa with ones from fossils of Neanderthals and Denisovans, focusing on DNA that stood out from the West African genomes roughly as much as Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA did from modern human genomes overall.

The researchers detected statistical anomalies they suggested were best explained by interbreeding between West Africans and an unknown ancient human lineage whose ancestors diverged from those of modern humans before the split between Neanderthals and modern humans. Four West African groups — Yoruba in southwestern Nigeria, Esan in southern Nigeria, Gambians in western Gambia, and Mende in Sierra Leone — may derive 2% to 19% of their DNA from a ghost lineage, the researchers said.

"Interbreeding among highly diverged human populations has been common through human evolution," said study senior author Sriram Sankararaman, a computational geneticist at UCLA.


A number of ghost lineage genetic variants were unusually common in the Yoruba and Mende genomes, suggesting they might confer some evolutionary advantages. These included genes involved in tumor suppression, male reproduction and hormone regulation.


Interestingly, Yoruba have some information about gods who married earthly people in Ifaodu corpus. This information has been released before 1980 in account which has no connection to to modern genetic research which backs such Yoruba information.

According to, to Professor Wande Abimbola:
Deities and Spirits marry and have children - Yoruba believe that deities and spirits exist according to their sexual status. It was stated, “after the arrival of the divinities (on earth, sic) human population increased at Ife in two ways. The divinity married among them and gave birth to the lineage of men who later become the divine ruler” (Wande, 1976).

An Ifa corpus that is authoritative on this belief states, ‘sinmi titi, lawo sinmi titi; sinmi jinna lawo sinmi jinna; Adifa fun Orunmila nlo reefe; Ojunro mi omo Orisa Igbo Wuji,(Elubuibon,1998).Ojunromi omo Orisala.


Perhaps, you can bring out your writers, who contradict Ifaodu , which has been upheld by these special breed of hominids. Instead, of claiming Ileife in Nigeria as the basis of Yoruba foundation.

macof:

Larabawa, Rumawa...
I don't understand how having a name for a people equates to "mixing" with those people in particular.

Kano just being a commercial hub doesn't make it a mixing ground, it's more complex than that.

And even though as I already admitted many West African groups have Eurasian genes, there are many factors involved... like how only a few hardly significant number of carries who first appeared in the region can have many descendants and the same genes gets passed like wildfire.
Hence as long as people have always been marrying foreigners you can't expect to be pure anything. No matter how many generations removed you are.

Not many but four groups have been confirmed by geneticists, presently. . The important thing is that gene don't tells lies. And Yoruba people is the most concentrated ethnic group in West Africa.

Olu317:
Not many but four groups have been confirmed by geneticists, presently. . The important thing is that gene don't tells lies. And Yoruba people is the most concentrated ethnic group in West Africa.

You are too silly to even be able to comprehend Genetics olu
So whether genes tell lie or not is irrelevant as far as you are concerned because you can't comprehend the implications

macof:


You are too silly to even be able to comprehend Genetics olu
So whether genes tell lie or not is irrelevant as far as you are concerned because you can't comprehend the implications

Just imagine your statement! So, gene tells lie? . Obviously, you know nothing than vulgar usage. ordinary , I ought seek your ban but not interested in all that bullshit.


You have simply forgotten your previous posts in the past that you declined such fact as Yoruba having Eurasia gene via Neanderthal . While you will continue to see posts as shown in this thread and elsewhere. Hence enjoy yourself while the truth and fact continue to be revealed to you all.

Adeba01:


When you mean scattered across the globe they are no longer part of the youruba people as they are heavily mixed and don't resemble the Yoruba, it would be more appropriate for Brazilians and Cubans to claim their spanish/ portuguese heritage as they look more like their European side than their alleged Yoruba side

The point here is that I'm not even thinking in the direction of south America or North Americas as you seemingly have thought.

For instance, a white man married colour woman and therafter, the sons and daughters of such man married into colour generation for more than 100 generations and vice versa for (a colour man who married white person (highest breed of light skin caucasians). Obviously such man or woman will look like people who are their immediate neighbours

Infact, excavation will resume at Ife-Osugbo sites where more discoveries will continue to expose the needed information on Yoruba identity.



Cheers

Olu317:
Just imagine your statement! So, gene tells lie? . Obviously, you know nothing than vulgar usage. ordinary , I ought seek your ban but not interested in all that bullshit.

You fraudulently want to imply what he did not write, that's why you cut out the bolded, Olu317 you will never stop being a fraud
Why not quote macof's exact post?
Macof: weather gene tell a lie or not is irrelevant
Olu317: gene tell lie
Can you see how dumb you are?

Olu317:

You have simply forgotten your previous posts in the past that you declined such fact as Yoruba having Eurasia gene via Neanderthal . While you will continue to see posts as shown in this thread and elsewhere. Hence enjoy yourself while the truth and fact continue to be revealed to you all.

Olu typed [/b]truthand fact[b]

Mo rógo

Have you ever been truthful on nairaland since you joined?

Olu317:
Just imagine your statement! So, gene tells lie? . Obviously, you know nothing than vulgar usage. ordinary , I ought seek your ban but not interested in all that bullshit.

You fraudulently want to imply what he did not write, that's why you cut out the bolded, Olu317 you will never stop being a fraud
Why not quote macof's exact post?
Macof: weather gene tell a lie or not is irrelevant
Olu317: gene tell lie
Can you see how dumb you are?

Olu317:

You have simply forgotten your previous posts in the past that you declined such fact as Yoruba having Eurasia gene via Neanderthal . While you will continue to see posts as shown in this thread and elsewhere. Hence enjoy yourself while the truth and fact continue to be revealed to you all.

Olu typed truth and fact

Mo rógo

Have you ever been truthful on nairaland since you joined?

SlyDev:

Not only are the Yoruba people of Nigeria high in rh negative blood, they also carry Neanderthal DNA which is rare for Africa.

Examining the origin of rh negative blood and Neanderthal DNA within the Yoruba population may help determine the origin of rh negative blood.

According to a 2017 study, Yoruba people have ~31% prehistoric “Basal Human” (BE) admixture.

You see, certain set of people on this platform contend with scientists who have carried out series of dna test on Yorubas and other Africans.

So, do not marvel over your screesnshot if these people claim Yoruba do not have euroasia dna link. As far back as a dacade ago or thereabout ,Professoer David Reich, at Havard Univeriy, who is a geneticist , raised the alarm over what he discovered, about Yoruba dna of presentday Africa .And from then, extensive researches have been carried out and still being carried out.

As far as we are concerned ,once researches being carried out on dna analysis keeps matching up with oral accounts aswell with more archeological discoveries, which also fall in with historical account of corpus in Ifaodu, will directly posit, where Yoruba actually came from.

Interestingly, AFRICANUS AND PAN AFRICANISTS : Many pan Africanists wants to do away with everything Unafricans,forgetting that Africa,was named after Publius Scipio Africanus,a Roman General. So we May need to do away with the name "Africa" and reverse to the old name of the continent, "Alkebulan", this Ancient name was used by the Nubian , Kush ,Moor ,Numidians and Ethopian civilization to refer to our Continent,before it was changed toAfrica by the Roman.

A name which is a conqueror's name. Yet you see these die hard few element attached to an African identity, which it origin is of a Roman General, who killed a lot khemet,Nubian, Moor etc.



Cheers

Olu317:
Sorry to disappoint you.The original yorubas were not darkskins but married into darkskin peoples. This is the reason many of you are darkskins.

Any proof to this?

How can the dark percentage be in total and absolte majority

macof:
Lol the way people will just go online to post all kinds of things without studying the topic

So light skin among Yoruba is a product of breeding with fulani? The highest prevalence of light skin amongst yorubas is Ekiti... Yet Ekiti had no significant fulani interaction.. You look to the Oyo and Igbomina for that

And even talking about fulani, what's up with holding up this silly myth that fulani have caucasoid ancestry?
This idea is based on isolated observation that Fulanis tend to be light skin and have long noses... But looking at all Fulanis not just cheering picking here and there you find fulani are a majority dark skin people

And one guy above even said Oyo are ethnically Nupe lol na wa o. So the Ife heritage means nothing, the Yoruba language means nothing?

Light skin is a rare thing in yoruba. If there exist one then it is due to outside marriages aimed at polishing their genes with future generation.

theTranslator:
He is Igbo He said that in mock

Can we see your facial look, maybe then I am wrong.?

Juliusmalema:




Can we see your facial look, maybe then I am wrong.?

I am in between light and dark
All my siblings are like that except my sister who is very very light
Even her daughter is very light

They call her Omo Igbo even though the father is Yoruba

Juliusmalema:



Any proof to this?

How can the dark percentage be in total and absolte majority

1. There are scarifications people and non scarification set of people,who are of Yoruba ethnic groups.

2. Among the ancient Yorubas, it was postulated by Al Ilori assert yorubas to be of Negroes, Nubians, Moors etc., Al-Ilori, A. A. (1987). Nasimus-Sibafi Akhbaril-Islam wa cUlamai Bilādi Yoruba (Gentle Wind on the Information of Islam and the Scholars in Yoruba Land) (2nd ed., p. 33). Cairo: 'al-Matba'atun Namudhajiyyah.

As at when he posited this position, some scholars of 19th and 20th century especially pro Africans of an African origin of Yorubas. But today, science has proven European,Near East(Asian) breed amongst Yorubas. In which ,Yoruba has been confirmed to carry a gene of Neanderthal. This information confirm partly position of Al Ilori. Even

3 .According to Yoruba oral account in Ileife, albino is referred as a high Orísá as compared to Darkskin people. If you are a deep traditional Yoruba being, my position ought be more clearer to you.

4. There is a family lineage in Ileife called as the ancestors of the albino cum white skin groups.

5. As it was in the ancient time,so as it today and shall be till infinity. The Yorubas as at ancient times have core light skin groups, such as mulattoes, high light skin Caucasians, Arab, Negroes, etc who are directly or indirectly related to Yoruba genetically.

Juliusmalema:


Light skin is a rare thing in yoruba. If there exist one then it is due to outside marriages aimed at polishing their genes with future generation.

Lol!No problem. Enjoy the information you believe to true but does not change the fact, that contrary to your view ,ancestors of Yorubas are hybrid of extremely brilliant breed for thousands of years.

Juliusmalema:


Light skin is a rare thing in yoruba. If there exist one then it is due to outside marriages aimed at polishing their genes with future generation.

Light skin is not rare in Eastern yorubaland especially Ekiti

Juliusmalema:


Light skin is a rare thing in yoruba. If there exist one then it is due to outside marriages aimed at polishing their genes with future generation.

You're just stupid....lol

Yoruba have iberomaurasian DNA, which are not Berbers they're ancestral north Africans and are the ancestors of Berbers plus modern Berbers are even more mixed with Europeans.so

Yoruba people have the most negroid features in Nigeria followed by south south minorities
Comedy thread

Juliusmalema:


There is nothing like self hate Abeg.

The darkness too much.

Proudnigerian60:
Yoruba people have the most negroid features in Nigeria followed by south south minorities
Comedy thread

If you don't know
Berbers are negroid

Adeba01:
I found an interesting article on the yorubas, that I find very insightful, wherein in states that Yorubas have berber caucasiod through mixing with the fulanis.

Here is the link of the source, you will find the information fascinating :-

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Yorubas

What do you think?

Genetics does not confirm this. My Yoruba friend did her test and it came back as pure West African. 100%, no mixing!
Her mum is very fair, and her mum's dad (grandfather) is very fair as well.

DON'T EVER BE DECEIVED, GO TO A LAB AND TEST YOUR GENES IF IN DOUBT!!!

Caucasiod ko, Coke and Soda ni

theInterpreter:
If you don't know
Berbers are negroid

No they’re asiatic

Proudnigerian60:


No they’re asiatic

oh
Sorry
I'm not talking of the present Arabs occupying north Africa