Christistruth00:


But that was the War in Which the Alaafin was killed

The Crown prince of Oyo and Eleduwe the Bariba King were also killed in that War

Oshogbo of 1840 and the Jalumi war were the real deal

At the Oshogbo War the Fulani Jihad fled all the Way to Kebbi without Stopping and Oyo People Crossed the Niger and settled in Towns all the Way to Mokwa though the Oyo and Ibadan Army remained at Jebba

Alaafin and Eleduwe weren’t killed in that war. Only Eleduwe lost his son.

But Eleduwe was killed in the 2nd war in 1835 when they tried to retake Ilorin. Oyo lost that war due to internal sabotage within. I believe it was that war that led to the total collapse of Oyo.

So that is why they feel terribly bitter and scared of the Yorubas, e don tey wey dem dey chop slap from back of neck in hands of Yoruba, been whom are they want revenge at any cost and this is the time for them, when they are in control military, AJEKUN IYA LE JE.

OdudwaR:


Alaafin and Eleduwe weren’t killed in that war. Only Eleduwe lost his son.

But Eleduwe was killed in the 2nd war in 1835 when they tried to retake Ilorin. Oyo lost that war due to internal sabotage within. I believe it was that war that led to the total collapse of Oyo.

In the War that lead to the Collapse of Old Oyo called Katunga Alaafin, Eleduwe and the Crown Prince all died.

The Oyo Chefs played a game of Sabotage that they lived to regret very bitterly otherwise Ilorin was in Panic and expecting to be completely destroyed.

Many of the Oyo Chiefs that Sabotaged the War paid for their Mistake with their lives and the lives of their wives and Children in the Wars that followed with the Fulani

Old Oyo was abandoned and deserted completely

Ibadan, Modakeke and Abeokuta were born as massive refugee Camps of the fleeing Oyos from every direction

But that was the. Last time the Oyo Chiefs made such a mistake

Thereafter they remained United even in the face of disagreements amongst themselves

christistruth01:


In the War that lead to the Collapse of Old Oyo called Katunga Alaafin, Eleduwe and the Crown Prince all died.

The Oyo Chefs played a game of Sabotage that they lived to regret otherwise Ilorin was in Panic and expecting to be completely destroyed

Yes, the one you posted (Katunga war) was the war that happened in 1835 when they were trying to retake Ilorin. Otefan battle happened in 1830: a completely different war that pitched Oyo directly against the Sokoto caliphate.

The Oyo Chiefs sabotaged that war because Oyo was about to cruise to victory. And that war should be a lesson to Yorubas today about saboteurs. If Oyo had won that war, there would’ve been a renaissance with Oyo becoming powerful again. Oyo would most likely have shielded Yorubaland from colonization and transatlantic slavery wouldn’t have affected Yorubas the way it did.

Ilorin is the cursed part of Yorubaland and it’s one of the reasons why I’m not so keen on including Ilorin in anything that has to do with Yoruba. The downfall of the Yoruba race started in Ilorin.

OdudwaR was Lagos part of the old Oyo empire.

OdudwaR:
The war that sent shockwaves into the heart of the old Sokoto caliphate was not Osogbo war of 1840. It was the Alaafin Oluewu's war of 1830.
This was not a war between Ilorin and Oyo...it was a war between Sokoto caliphate and Yorùbá nation in coalition with Baribas. Most of the powerful Yorùbá warrior kings and Warlords that would later prove their legends were involved in this war.

The Phalanx a coalition of vast soliders under the commands of Alaafin Oluewu, prince Atiba of Ago Oja (who would later be the next king after Oluewu), Baale of Ogbomoso, Onikoyi, Eleduwe (A king in one of the Bariba kingdoms) Jato(a general in the Borgu army whose earlier campaigns against the Futa jalon earned him a reputation). Baale of Iseyin and Baale of Saki. Kurumi of Ijaye also joined the ranks with his private militia (at this time,he was a provincial ruler).

They camped at a place called Otefan. The leaders of the expedition were Oluewu of Oyo and Eleduwe of Burgu. The Eleduwe trusted all the lesser generals. Under his command but Alaafin did not trust some of his, including of Ogbomoso and Onikoyi (Onikoyi had a long history of being controversial. He was one of the first provincial rulers of Oyo to pledge allegiance to the Emir of Ilorin)... Oluewu was careful not to put them in strategic sections in the military formations.

Sultan Belo of Sokoto (son of usman Dan Fodio) sent a much larger army of 17 warlords and their soldiers under the command of Esugoyi(ruler of the vassal state of Rabbah) to meet with much smaller army of the Emir of Ilorin. He hoped for victory in a decisive battle against Oyo and obsession to extend to the coast. The army he sent was so large that the coalition army of Oyo was outnumbered twelve to one.

Usual battle Phalanx of the southwest at the time was usually divided into three. A Phalanx stays at the center, one to the right and another to the left(this formation was usually followed religously during....that Lisabi of Egbaland used the positions to confer military titles in his militia. The Jaguna commanded the army at the center,Lukotun commanded the right flank and Lukosi commanded the left flank). In this battle,the Eleduwe fought at the center with his battle-hardened warriors.

Oluewu fought from the right and lesser rulers manned the Phalanx to the left. Eleduwe was the instant hero of the battle. As he suppressed the enemy from the center, he sent soldiers to fill the ranks on each sides at the same time to force the enemy Into the center. From the center, they greatly slaughtered the Fulani warriors and broke their ranks. They fled in different directions with the coalition army routing them as they fled and slaughtering them in thousands. As the Fulani nobles took to hero...they delegated horsemen to confront the enemies pursuing them to slow them down using the calvary advantage as they escaped. The victory was decisive but came with its casualties as well, Eleduwe lost his son in the war.

After this war,the Sokoto caliphate gave up on annexing Yorùbáland and the combats went back to tensions between Ilorin and Oyo.

Culled from: https://twitter.com/tyewoolove/status/1387737973907726337

I think Fulanis tried again twice with Ilorin Emirate after the fall of Oyo during the Oshogbo and Jalumi wars but they were defeated by Ibadan army.

Yoruba peeps and their revisionist character are specimen to behold. If this Otefan battle was after the occupation of Ogbomoso and Osogbo by the Caliphate, it is debatable and may hold a drop of water. However if it happened before the fall of Ogbomoso and Osogbo, it is a product of delusional imagination.

ShadowCracker:
OdudwaR was Lagos part of the old Oyo empire.

Yes

Badagry Port belonged to the Alaafin of Oyo who defeated Dahomey to seize both Badagry Porto Novo and Cotonou

Dahomey retook Cotonou when Oyo was busy fighting Power drunk Afonja and the Fulani's at Ilorin but Oyo managed to hold on to Badagry and Porto Novo in Benin Republic

Onikoyi of Ikoyi is Ethnic Oyo

Lagos Mainland and Coast belonged to the Egba and Ijebu People through War

But Egba ruled over Awori Yoruba who were the real owners of Lagos

The only exemption was Lagos Island which was owned by the Awori Yoruba

All other Parts of Lagos belonged Politically and Military to Egba and Ijebu

But the Original owners of all Lagos except for the Ijebu areas were the Awori Yoruba

DubaiLandLord:
If it was not for Afonja, they won't have gotten ilorin.

And what stopped you guys from reclaiming it

Christistruth00:


But that was the War in Which the Alaafin was killed

The Crown prince of Oyo and Eleduwe the Bariba King were also killed in that War

Oshogbo of 1840 and the Jalumi war were the real deal

At the Oshogbo War the Fulani Jihad fled all the Way to Kebbi without Stopping and Oyo People Crossed the Niger and settled in Towns all the Way to Mokwa though the Oyo and Ibadan Army remained at Jebba and didn’t Cross the Niger because they didn’t know what to expect on the other Side

The Fulani Jihad had reached kebbi before stopping because they thought the Ibadan Warriors were still Pershing them

Later on when the Emir of Kontagora started issuing threats the Oyos that gasped settled in Towns and Villages all the way to Mokwa moved back across the River Niger to the Jebba Area for safety

The Fulani quietly smuggled themselves back into Ilorin while the Yorubas was busy beating themselves up in the Kiriji War years later on and still yet the Ibadan Army still managed to inflict the Calamitous defeat of the Jalumi War on Ilorin again while the Ibadan were fighting War on 5 fronts


Aare Ogunmola of Ibadan was something else, fighting Ogedengbe and the Ekiti Parapo on one Side, beating up Ilorin on the Other, fighting Egba and Ijebu on another front at the same time as keeping Ijaye and Dahomey in Check and Ogunmola never lost any War

How did Ogunmola even manage to Sleep?

It could only have been the Grace of God towards the Yoruba it was a near impossible feat


OduduwaR how come i who you accused of being Bororo Fulani is now the one correcting your Yoruba History ?

But when we say Ekiti, Ijebu, Awori, Egbas, Ilajes are not Yorubas you guys will start bleating like a goat.

TAO11 do you have anything to say please?

christistruth01:


Yes

Badagry Port belonged to the Alaafin of Oyo

Hmm according to omonnakoda, Lagos was not part of Oyo empire, and Oba Eko was not consulted on the Actualization of Yoruba nation, so Lagos would not be part of Yoruba nation.

He said Yoruba nation is a thing of Oyo.

I am from Epe, according to omonnakoda Epe is not part of Lagos, so I am not a Lagosian.

CC: OdudwaR

SouthEastFacts:

But when we say Ekiti, Ijebu, Awori, Egbas, Ilajes are not Yorubas you guys will start bleating like a goat.

TAO11 do you have anything to say please?

All the above are Yorubas


Please stick to South East Facts

ShadowCracker:

Hmm according to omonnakoda, Lagos was not part of Oyo empire, and Oba Eko was not consulted on the Actualization of Yoruba nation, so Lagos would not be part of Yoruba nation.

He said Yoruba nation is a thing of Oyo.

I am from Epe, according to omonnakoda Epe is not part of Lagos, so I am not a Lagosian.

CC: OdudwaR

Awori Yoruba and Ijebu are 100% Yorubas

Till today, the biggest opposition to Yoruba nation are Ilorin!

christistruth01:

Awori Yoruba and Ijebu are 100% Yorubas

I am an Ijebu man.

christistruth01 are you in support of Yoruba nation.

Nigercity:


Are you sure
You know geography?

Yes sir

christistruth01:


All the above are Yorubas

Please stick to South East Facts

How come they were fighting wars, sabotaging each other and killing themselves?

SouthEastFacts:

How come they were fighting wars, sabotaging each other and killing themselves?

Omo nna mind your business stop poking your dirty nose on Yoruba matter.

Anambra Igbos don't regard Ebonyi people as Igbos.

SouthEastFacts:

How come they were fighting wars, sabotaging each other and killing themselves?

Don't your family members fight ?

It may interest you to know that Somalia has one Tribe -------Somali

Yet their Clans are still at each others throats

OdudwaR:


Yes, the one you posted (Katunga war) was the war that happened in 1835 when they were trying to retake Ilorin. Otefan battle happened in 1830: a completely different war that pitched Oyo directly against the Sokoto caliphate.

The Oyo Chiefs sabotaged that war because Oyo was about to cruise to victory. And that war should be a lesson to Yorubas today about saboteurs. If Oyo had won that war, there would’ve been a renaissance with Oyo becoming powerful again. Oyo would most likely have shielded Yorubaland from colonization and transatlantic slavery wouldn’t have affected Yorubas the way it did.

[s]Ilorin is the cursed part of Yorubaland and it’s one of the reasons why I’m not so keen on including Ilorin in anything that has to do with Yoruba. The downfall of the Yoruba race started in Ilorin.[/s]

People shouldn't continue to pay for the mistake of a king......Yoruba elders especially in arodun have been pushing for the inclusion of kwara in the south west.

SouthEastFacts:

How come they were fighting wars, sabotaging each other and killing themselves?

That is why we have learned our lessons
War is never nice
Ekitiparapo(Egba,Ekiti,Ijebu etc) wanted to be free from Ibadan oppression

But we have learned that diplomacy is always better

We have seen far more war than Igbos will ever see

SouthEastFacts:

And what stopped you guys from reclaiming it

We almost did succeeded in the 1960s but thanks to Nnamdi Azikiwe who worked with the northerners to ensure it never happened.......read history, there's a reason enlightened Yoruba's don't trust Igbos.

TheLionofLasigi:


We almost did succeeded in the 1960s but thanks to Nnamdi Azikiwe who worked with the northerners to ensure it never happened.......read history, there's a reason enlightened Yoruba's don't trust Igbos.

The Igbos have done more harm to the Yoruba race in sixty years than any other tribe ever in history.

They played the spoiler role in whittling down influence of Western Nigeria, teamed up with the Fulani and core North to carve Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi States to North, created Mid-West and so many other sins like that.

As God would have it, Yorubas in those States have written to National Assembly that they want to re-unite with their kiths and kins in South West, that they share nothing in common with North.
Same can not be said of the SSners. Shame on anuofia Azikiwe and his likes.

OdudwaR:


Yes, the one you posted (Katunga war) was the war that happened in 1835 when they were trying to retake Ilorin. Otefan battle happened in 1830: a completely different war that pitched Oyo directly against the Sokoto caliphate.

The Oyo Chiefs sabotaged that war because Oyo was about to cruise to victory. And that war should be a lesson to Yorubas today about saboteurs. If Oyo had won that war, there would’ve been a renaissance with Oyo becoming powerful again. Oyo would most likely have shielded Yorubaland from colonization and transatlantic slavery wouldn’t have affected Yorubas the way it did.

Ilorin is the cursed part of Yorubaland and it’s one of the reasons why I’m not so keen on including Ilorin in anything that has to do with Yoruba. The downfall of the Yoruba race started in Ilorin.

It was the Sabotage of the Oyo Chiefs because they refused to swallow their own Pride and Put Nation first that allowed the Fulani's at Ilorin to Consolidate

Otherwise the Fulani Jihad in Yorubaland would have only been a footnote in History

That War was the Joker Card that God Almighty himself gave the Oyos to Eradicate Fulani rule in Yorubaland for good but the arrogance and vindictiveness of the Oyo Chiefs let them down
even the Bariba paid a heavy Price for that treachery

flokii:


The Igbos have done more harm to the Yoruba race in sixty years than any other tribe ever in history.

They played the spoiler role in whittling down influence of Western Nigeria, teamed up with the Fulani and core North to carve Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi States to North, created Mid-West and so many other sins like that.

As God would have it, Yorubas in those States have written to National Assembly that they want to re-unite with their kiths and kins in South West, that they share nothing in common woth North.
Same can not be said of the SSners. Shame on anuofia Azikiwe and his likes.

True talk......I always say that if anyone reads and goes through history pre-civil war you'd understand that these igbo people are exactly like the fulani's and Azikiwe with his father also had been working with the british to give the igbos an unfair advantage in the south, Azikiwe was a demonic power hungry closet tribalist who had the tendencies of an african Hitler with his Igbo supremacist rhetorics and it's still this same mentality that's been carried on till today by his kinsmen, most yoruba's are just awake to these people's intentions, been blinded by zombie liberalism.

Fake history , ppl that faint at the sound of a gun shot , the British won’t be babying u this thing and you will cry to a private this time

ShadowCracker:
christistruth01 are you in support of Yoruba nation.

No

Fun fact,in 1830s.Sokoto caliphate was at war with Oyo,Damagaram,Borno,Abuja,Bussa,Igala,So defeating them in one battle was not an impressive act,cause they were facing enemies at all front.

Idiko1:


Yoruba peeps and their revisionist character are specimen to behold. If this Otefan battle was after the occupation of Ogbomoso and Osogbo by the Caliphate, it is debatable and may hold a drop of water. However if it happened before the fall of Ogbomoso and Osogbo, it is a product of delusional imagination.

Did you read the story at all?
The Otefan war happened in 1830. Ogbomosho and Oshogbo were never occupied and if you think they were , please State the date such occupation occurred.


The period between 1825-1855 were period of wars Western half of what we now call the Federal Republic of Nigeria and several kingdoms/empires were key players in that war.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Fun fact,in 1830s.Sokoto caliphate was at war with Oyo,Damagaram,Borno,Abuja,Bussa,Igala,So defeating them in one battle was not an impressive act,cause they were facing enemies at all front.

By 1830, the Sokoto Caliphate was still trying to find it feet and naturally encountered resistance from neighbours who didn't want to be conquered and annexed into the growing Sokoto Caliphate.


The rulers of the Caliphate were suberb Administrators, who though they were minority non-indigenous tribe as at 1830, they succeeded in forging unity among diverse tribes under the banners of Islam.

StaffofOrayan:
Till today, the biggest opposition to Yoruba nation are Ilorin!

This is false.

ShadowCracker:

Hmm according to omonnakoda, Lagos was not part of Oyo empire, and Oba Eko was not consulted on the Actualization of Yoruba nation, so Lagos would not be part of Yoruba nation.

He said Yoruba nation is a thing of Oyo.

I am from Epe, according to omonnakoda Epe is not part of Lagos, so I am not a Lagosian.

CC: OdudwaR

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