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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 11:49pm On Apr 29, 2021
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 11:56pm On Apr 29, 2021
pricklewane:
This is for the foolish jews from hell fire that believed Ojukwu can overrun Yoruba land.

Dem no born am well.

BTW, Usain Kanu must go down!
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:02am On Apr 30, 2021
Jostoman:
Fulani disguising as Yoruba to cause division between Yoruba and Igbo. we are more than United this time around.

We can NEVER be united. May thunder fire that unity between Yorubas and Ibos.

Even if Yorubaland becomes a sovereign today, we'll chase all Ibos out of SW

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:05am On Apr 30, 2021
christistruth01:

No
why sir?
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:20am On Apr 30, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

And what stopped you guys from reclaiming it
The same thing stopping you guys from leaving Nigeria.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 12:35am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR Ogun state police have cancelled the rally on May 1st.
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:40am On Apr 30, 2021
christistruth01:


Yes

Badagry Port belonged to the Alaafin of Oyo who defeated Dahomey to seize both Badagry Porto Novo and Cotonou

Dahomey retook Cotonou when Oyo was busy fighting Power drunk Afonja and the Fulani's at Ilorin but Oyo managed to hold on to Badagry and Porto Novo in Benin Republic

Onikoyi of Ikoyi is Ethnic Oyo

Lagos Mainland and Coast belonged to the Egba and Ijebu People through War

But Egba ruled over Awori Yoruba who were the real owners of Lagos

The only exemption was Lagos Island which was owned by the Awori Yoruba

All other Parts of Lagos belonged Politically and Military to Egba and Ijebu

But the Original owners of all Lagos except for the Ijebu areas were the Awori Yoruba

You omitted Ijeshas and Ekitis.

There are also Ijesha and Ekiti settlements in Lagos.

Honestly, a lot of Yoruba settlements kind of moved around. Ibadan for example was historically an Egba town until it was sacked by the Ijebu-Ife alliance during the Ijebu-Ife vs Owu war. And the Egbas moved down to establish a new settlement in Abeokuta. Owus also moved down to where they're today after their towns were sacked by Ijebu-Ife.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:42am On Apr 30, 2021
Idiko1:


Yoruba peeps and their revisionist character are specimen to behold. If this Otefan battle was after the occupation of Ogbomoso and Osogbo by the Caliphate, it is debatable and may hold a drop of water. However if it happened before the fall of Ogbomoso and Osogbo, it is a product of delusional imagination.

There's no revisionism there. The only gaffe is the date. I stated that it was 1830, which was the year I saw in Samuel Johnson's book. But it seems it happened in 1835 based on new research.

Check the pictures below

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 12:44am On Apr 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:
OdudwaR Ogun state police have cancelled the rally on May 1st.

Egba people SMH.

cc: Gbajure undecided
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by forgiveness: 12:45am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR:


Yes, the one you posted (Katunga war) was the war that happened in 1835 when they were trying to retake Ilorin. Otefan battle happened in 1830: a completely different war that pitched Oyo directly against the Sokoto caliphate.

The Oyo Chiefs sabotaged that war because Oyo was about to cruise to victory. And that war should be a lesson to Yorubas today about saboteurs. If Oyo had won that war, there would’ve been a renaissance with Oyo becoming powerful again. Oyo would most likely have shielded Yorubaland from colonization and transatlantic slavery wouldn’t have affected Yorubas the way it did.

Ilorin is the cursed part of Yorubaland and it’s one of the reasons why I’m not so keen on including Ilorin in anything that has to do with Yoruba. The downfall of the Yoruba race started in Ilorin.

Atiba sabotaged that war due to his selfish interest to become the Alaafin. He eventually succeeded and tried to defend Oyo against Sokoto.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by amuwo1980: 12:57am On Apr 30, 2021
Jostoman:
Fulani disguising as Yoruba to cause division between Yoruba and Igbo. we are more than United this time around.
I suspect this so so much , they come in waves suggesting it was coordinated. Some pass off as Yoruba and some respond as igbos and the hate game start and the camel poxed jihadist are out there smirking , pig blood on all jihadist

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:57am On Apr 30, 2021
oyatz:

This is false.

This is what it means to be conquered, mind, body and soul


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43yVd9_8VNA

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 12:58am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR:

Egba people SMH.
cc: Gbajure undecided
How does the Ogun police ban on the Odua nation rally relate to Egba people.
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 1:17am On Apr 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:

How does the Ogun police ban on the Odua nation rally relate to Egba people.

Apparently, the ban was requested by the Alake.
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 1:20am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR:

Apparently, the ban was requested by the Alake.
Oh I get, Alake of Egbaland is a known Tinubu puppet, so ko jomi loju.
Do you think the rally would still hold.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 1:20am On Apr 30, 2021
christistruth01:



It was the Sabotage of the Oyo Chiefs because they refused to swallow their own Pride and Put Nation first that allowed the Fulani's at Ilorin to Consolidate

Otherwise the Fulani Jihad in Yorubaland would have only been a footnote in History

That War was the Joker Card that God Almighty himself gave the Oyos to Eradicate Fulani rule in Yorubaland for good but the arrogance and vindictiveness of the Oyo Chiefs let them down
even the Bariba paid a heavy Price for that treachery

You're right.

Another interesting thing about those periods is that while some Yorubas were fighting Fulanis in the North, others were fighting among themselves in the South.

So it begs the question: have Yorubas ever fought a war against any opposing group as one? I'd like to know if there is any because a combined Yoruba forces going against anyone would be crazy.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 1:27am On Apr 30, 2021
oyatz:

By 1830, the Sokoto Caliphate was still trying to find it feet and naturally encountered resistance from neighbours who didn't want to be conquered and annexed into the growing Sokoto Caliphate.


The rulers of the Caliphate were suberb Administrators, who though they were minority non-indigenous tribe as at 1830, they succeeded in forging unity among diverse tribes under the banners of Islam.

I won't call them superb administrators. They're the masters of deceit who had religion, which is the opiate of the masses, at their disposal. So it was easy for them to use the brainwashing tool to galvanize religious people.

However, they lost most of those wars and offered little or no resistance to the colonizers when they came although they were able to use that to make the colonizers install emirs in places where they were defeated. Apart from Hausas, and parts of Nupes, they didn't really do much.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 1:30am On Apr 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:

Oh I get, Alake of Egbaland is a known Tinubu puppet, so ko jomi loju.

Do you think the rally would still hold.

I don't know (I don't live in Nigeria).

I'm watching Koiki on Youtube now. And he's saying it will go ahead.

There would also be rallies on Saturday in Europe.

Koiki is the one who said the Alake requested the ban.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 1:39am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR:

I don't know (I don't live in Nigeria).
I'm watching Koiki on Youtube now. And he's saying it will go ahead.
There would also be rallies on Saturday in Europe.
Koiki is the one who said the Alake requested the ban.
Oh I get, I would watch Kooiki broadcast later in the day to get more info. Thanks.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by SouthEastFacts: 1:47am On Apr 30, 2021
TheLionofLasigi:


We almost did succeeded in the 1960s but thanks to Nnamdi Azikiwe who worked with the northerners to ensure it never happened.......read history, there's a reason enlightened Yoruba's don't trust Igbos.
Every Yoruba man by default blames Ndi Igbo for everything. You guys destroyed Lagos during EndSars and blamed Ndi Igbo.

Ijaw was president but the hatred was on Ndi Igbo.

SS/SE refused to protest during the Occupy Nigeria protest but it was Ndi Igbo that received the hatred.

You looted Igbo shops during the Endxenaphobia protest in Lagos and still blamed Ndi Igbo.

Fulani killed Afenifere daughter, Tinubu, Yoruba's hero blamed Ndi Igbo.

Yoruba killed innocent Hausas in Sasa and said Ndi Igbo instigated them.

Una go still blame Ndi Igbo for Tinubu losing the presidency.

A Yoruba man is the Governor of Kwara, what stops him from systematically reclaiming Illorin for Yorubas?

I guess Igbos again?

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by SouthEastFacts: 1:54am On Apr 30, 2021
theTranslator1:

That is why we have learned our lessons
War is never nice
Ekitiparapo(Egba,Ekiti,Ijebu etc) wanted to be free from Ibadan oppression

But we have learned that diplomacy is always better

We have seen far more war than Igbos will ever see
Because Ibadan was trying to force Yorubaness down their throat.

How many times have igbo, Ijaws, Binis, Igalas and Hausas fight themselves on scale the so-called Yorubas did?

You'll rarely see it in history because they are ONE ETHNIC.

Oyo, Ekiti, Aworis, Ijebus, Ugbo, Ilajes are a different ethnic group and that's why OYO was named an empire. If not history, would have recognized OYO as just a kingdom.

You can only be an empire when other kingdoms are invloved.
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Elliotwaveforec: 1:54am On Apr 30, 2021
OdudwaR:


Yes, the one you posted (Katunga war) was the war that happened in 1835 when they were trying to retake Ilorin. Otefan battle happened in 1830: a completely different war that pitched Oyo directly against the Sokoto caliphate.

The Oyo Chiefs sabotaged that war because Oyo was about to cruise to victory. And that war should be a lesson to Yorubas today about saboteurs. If Oyo had won that war, there would’ve been a renaissance with Oyo becoming powerful again. Oyo would most likely have shielded Yorubaland from colonization and transatlantic slavery wouldn’t have affected Yorubas the way it did.

Ilorin is the cursed part of Yorubaland and it’s one of the reasons why I’m not so keen on including Ilorin in anything that has to do with Yoruba. The downfall of the Yoruba race started in Ilorin.

Ilorin was cursed by Alaafin Aole that they would always be slaves in their own land; until the curse is broken, Illorins would always be pleased to be slaves. No wonder den carry Islam for head like say na only then be Muslims for Yorubaland.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by SouthEastFacts: 1:58am On Apr 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:

Omo nna mind your business stop poking your dirty nose on Yoruba matter.

Anambra Igbos don't regard Ebonyi people as Igbos.
Ebonyi currently provides political leadership for the entire South East. So, what are you saying?

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by SouthEastFacts: 2:01am On Apr 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:

How does the Ogun police ban on the Odua nation rally relate to Egba people.
Because Egbas are not Yorubas

Cc:
thetranlator 1
Helinues
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by ShadowCracker(m): 2:11am On Apr 30, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

Ebonyi currently provides political leadership for the entire South East. So, what are you saying?
Ebonyi are not Igbos - Anambra.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 2:14am On Apr 30, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

Every Yoruba man by default blames Ndi Igbo for everything. You guys destroyed Lagos during EndSars and blamed Ndi Igbo.

Ijaw was president but the hatred was on Ndi Igbo.

SS/SE refused to protest during the Occupy Nigeria protest but it was Ndi Igbo that received the hatred.

You looted Igbo shops during the Endxenaphobia protest in Lagos and still blamed Ndi Igbo.

Fulani killed Afenifere daughter, Tinubu, Yoruba's hero blamed Ndi Igbo.

Yoruba killed innocent Hausas in Sasa and said Ndi Igbo instigated them.

Una go still blame Ndi Igbo for Tinubu losing the presidency.

A Yoruba man is the Governor of Kwara, what stops him from systematically reclaiming Illorin for Yorubas?

I guess Igbos again?

Last time i checked the people blaming Yoruba's, tinubu and virtually everyone for their failures were the igbos...everyone knows this, read history and stop deflecting.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 2:19am On Apr 30, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

Because Ibadan was trying to force Yorubaness down their throat.

How many times have igbo, Ijaws, Binis, Igalas and Hausas fight themselves on scale the so-called Yorubas did?

You'll rarely see it in history because they are ONE ETHNIC.

Oyo, Ekiti, Aworis, Ijebus, Ugbo, Ilajes are a different ethnic group and that's why OYO was named an empire. If not history, would have recognized OYO as just a kingdom.

You can only be an empire when other kingdoms are invloved.

Typical flatin0 ape with the IQ of a dog..... arguing with falsehood and misinformation displaying his stupidity for the whole world to see.....better focus on your cursed region were the army are currently using you guys for war games.... stupid descendant of cain the vagabond.

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 2:21am On Apr 30, 2021
StaffofOrayan:


This is what it means to be conquered, mind, body and soul


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43yVd9_8VNA

The shiek isn't even yoruba... what's worse than being conquered is to be irredeemably ignorant.
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by Christistruth00: 3:59am On Apr 30, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

Every Yoruba man by default blames Ndi Igbo for everything. You guys destroyed Lagos during EndSars and blamed Ndi Igbo.

Ijaw was president but the hatred was on Ndi Igbo.

SS/SE refused to protest during the Occupy Nigeria protest but it was Ndi Igbo that received the hatred.

You looted Igbo shops during the Endxenaphobia protest in Lagos and still blamed Ndi Igbo.

Fulani killed Afenifere daughter, Tinubu, Yoruba's hero blamed Ndi Igbo.

Yoruba killed innocent Hausas in Sasa and said Ndi Igbo instigated them.

Una go still blame Ndi Igbo for Tinubu losing the presidency.

A Yoruba man is the Governor of Kwara, what stops him from systematically reclaiming Illorin for Yorubas?

I guess Igbos again?

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Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 5:28am On Apr 30, 2021
TheLionofLasigi:


The shiek isn't even yoruba... what's worse than being conquered is to be irredeemably ignorant.

What's worse than being ignorant is living in denial and self induced delusion!!

Adam al-Ilory was born in the province ofJugu, the headquarter of Barba tribe in the city of Wasa, northern region of the republic of Benin, to a Beninese mother and a Nigerian father of Yoruba ethnicity

I wonder why yorubas would allow a non Yoruba tell them their history, they must be even more lost than I thought
Re: Battle Of Otefan 1830: The Battle Where Oyo Defeated Sokoto Caliphate by jneutron4000: 5:47am On Apr 30, 2021
NwaAro:
At the end they got what they wanted which was ILORIN, and nothing else matters... every other yarns na story for the gods.
Ilorin is still Yoruba land. The emir is half Yoruba half Fulani who does not even understand his Fulani language, the Issue of Ilorin became a religious issue between the Yoruba Religion and the Islam religion so you now have Yorubas who resisted Yorubas because of the are Muslims, also Ilorin is what it is today because of Nigeria, so there are politics involved too, where they bribe some greedy Yorubas who act as antagonists for the Yoruba conplete take over of Ilorin. But no matter the Fulani game, Yorubas will still completely take charge of that land but the Emir will not ge abolished or stopped because Ilorin will be Yoruba Mecca so their Emirate will emulate that of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other properly and develop Muslim countries around the world. Fulanis that were born in Ilorin and have more than 2 generations there shall continue to live in Ilorin Provided they behave civilised anyways we can see that Fulanis that have mixed Yorubas are more refined.

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