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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 11:09pm On May 04
macof:


You and gregyboy are just two sides of a beaten down coin.
One Bini miscreant is claiming oduduwa is from igodomigodo..which nobody outside Bini takes seriously
Another Bini miscreant sees the oduduwa igodomigodo connection doesn't hold weight and just decides to claim oduduwa didn't exist

Both feel good delusions


One would think you yoruba cowards are not on the thread, not knowing are watching to see if they can spot the weak point of the brave....


Cowards...

Only God knows if is not a fellow yoruba cowards that is pleading as edo with the moniker fezz
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 11:11pm On May 04
TAO11:
Yes, there are no arguments about the fact that Ewuare-2 and his father told such great LIES. I didn’t dispute that. Everyone knows those two guys to be great fraud. I pity Ewuare-2 for inheriting his dad’s iZoDuWa fraud.

You should have realized that I know that when I wrote the following:

Which Oba of Benin said Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan?? cheesy

Is it the Benin obas pre-1970, or the two Benin clown-obas post-1970s?? Which ones?? LMAO!


(1) You Binis and falsehood/confusion are like five & six. cheesy
First of all, Eweka-1 is the first king of Benin (if you do not believe me, ask Erediauwa and his predecessors).

On the other hand, Oranmiyan (his father) is the first king of Oyo.

So, riddle me how they (Oranmiyan and Eweka-1) are brothers let alone HaLf brothers.

I like it when I force you Binis to tell more lies to cover up your prior lies out of embarrassment.

(2) Oh wait a second!
So you were actually saying your kings have Yoruba praise titles because of someone else from an entirely different mother. What’s going on hia LMAO! cheesy

Oh wait, child from another woman has By the way, how come your kings have As at 1906, your obas had Yoruba praise-titles such as: Adimula, Õṣa-Ikeji, etc.,

Let me ask you another question because I enjoy it when I force Bini liars to the their job — i.e. to lie:

Do the drawing of Yoruba tribal marks on your kings’ cheeks also result from the strong influence of that same unrelated woman??

Wonders shall never end! [ cheesy careless laughter]

You heard it from the horses mouth when he said Oranmiyan was the first Oba N'edo of Benin Kingdom. I didn't make up such stories over night. The present oba n'edo mentioned it in his inauguration speech.

Ajaka is oba Eweka's (younger) half brother as history clearly depicts. He was the one I was referring to and not Oranmiyan kiss.

You should know this by now, any tribe can give appellation to any king as long as the king is relevant to that tribe. If the yorubas decide to give appellation to the oba N'edo of Benin it's because the respect him as a true king and nothing more. The oba of Benin has never forced anyone to give him appellations, so you should probably go and ask your kins men why they created such appellations for the oba of Benin. Probably because they were once his subordinates and therefore they gave him reverence. kiss kiss

As for the tribal marks, I have no clue which tribal marks belonged to whom in pre colonial era. Some tribal marks do have similarities so I don't know how relevant this is.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 11:13pm On May 04
TAO11:
Sharrap!

The fraudulent 1970 story said Oduduwa is a corrupt alteration of iZoDuWa (or iDoDuWa or ImAdOdUwA).

The fraudulent story didn’t call Oduduwa a title. A corrupt alteration is what it was called by your fraud of a story.

Why would your festival be named after a Yoruba corrupt alteration when the so-called correct names (iZodUwa, iDoDuwA, iMaDoDuWa, and eKaLaDeRhAn) are available?? cheesy

Let’s hear from you. I love it when Bini liars tell more lies in an attempt to cover up their prior lies.

Show him evidence and refrence with eligible quote so he would runoff and go and read..

I thought i taught you well you're still lacking after so much flogging from me

Mtcheew....

You self nor dey try, youre just a wailer and obsessed trolls
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 11:14pm On May 04
TAO11:
Sharrap!

The fraudulent 1970 story said Oduduwa is a corrupt alteration of iZoDuWa (or iDoDuWa or ImAdOdUwA).

The fraudulent story didn’t call Oduduwa a title. A corrupt alteration is what it was called by your fraud of a story.

Why would your festival be named after a Yoruba corrupt alteration when the so-called correct names (iZodUwa, iDoDuwA, iMaDoDuWa, and eKaLaDeRhAn) are available?? cheesy

Let’s hear from you. I love it when Bini liars tell more lies in an attempt to cover up their prior lies.

What was Oduduwas title when he was king of ile-ife ? Because it was not Ooni.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by macof(m): 11:23pm On May 04
TAO11:
Apt summary! grin

Even within Benin, the Ogiamien family do not take it serious.
. Ogiamien family still call the Omonoba a Yoruba man
You would think the Coronation of the Omonoba will have anything to do with Ugbekun and other areas important to the Ogiso dynasty. No
You think the Coronation or this very Odudua festival will have any reservations for Ughotun founded by Ekaladaran, but no grin

Funny miscreants grin

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 11:32pm On May 04
Fezz:
[s]You heard it from the horses mouth when he said Oranmiyan was the first Oba N'edo of Benin Kingdom. I didn't make up such stories over night. The present oba n'edo mentioned it in his inauguration speech.
Horse’s mouth?

When a liar lies and claims it is the truth, we must believe him because he is a hOrSe, right? grin cheesy

Ajaka is oba Eweka's (younger) half brother as history clearly depicts.

He was the one I was referring to and not Oranmiyan kiss.
First of all, which “history” were you talking about when you said Ajaka is younger than Eweka as HiStOrY cLeArLy dEpIcTs?? Hehe undecided

In what kind of reasoning does an individual take on a praise-title because of his half-brother’s mother.

Secondly, Oranmiyan is Oyo’s first king. Ajaka is NOT Oyo’s first king. Ajaka does NOT even come in in any way, shape, or form.

Moreover, Eweka-1 is the classically recognized first Oba of Benin before the official standardization of the year 2016 by Ewuare-2.

Erediauwa was the 38th Benin oba, but his immediate successor (Ewuare-2) names himself as the 40th Benin oba. You get the gist? cheesy

You should know this by now, any tribe can give appellation to any king as long as the king is relevant to that tribe. If the yorubas decide to give appellation to the oba N'edo of Benin it's because the respect him as a true king and nothing more. The oba of Benin has never forced anyone to give him appellations, so you should probably go and ask your kins men why they created such appellations for the oba of Benin. Probably because they were once his subordinates and therefore they gave him reverence. kiss kiss
Lol. Yorubas didn’t give Benin kings any appellation. The Yoruba appellation of the Benin kings were collected by Europeans writing from Benin. So, try another excuse. [ cheesy careless laughter].

As for the tribal marks, I have no clue which tribal marks belonged to whom in pre colonial era. Some tribal marks do have similarities so I don't know how relevant this is.
You have no clue. Of course you should have no clue. You’re just an extra Benin layman.

Your own people informed Europeans that the tribal marks drawn on your obas face during coronation is Yoruba tribal marks.

I look forward to reading another excuse and pleading from you. Taink you. cheesy

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 11:34pm On May 04
Fezz:
What was Oduduwas title when he was king of ile-ife ? Because it was not Ooni.
You often ask questions, and then get so scared of the answers you anticipate. Is that normal? LMAO! cheesy

By the way, how does your question (and your consequent fear) help you to cover-up the fuc.k-up from the name of the festival, viz. ‘Oduduwa festival’??
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 11:45pm On May 04
macof:
. Ogiamien family still call the Omonoba a Yoruba man
You would think the Coronation of the Omonoba will have anything to do with Ubekun and other areas important to the Ogiso dynasty. No
You think the corona or this very Odudua festival will have any reservations for Ughotun founded by Ekaladaran, but no grin

Funny miscreants grin
Hmmmm! I never saw that angle. Thank you.

In Summary:
(1) They lied that Ekaladerhan (their son) is Oduduwa

(2) Their history admit that Ekalderhan is the founder of Ughoton kingdom.

(3) Yet their Oduduwa festival has nothing to do with Ughoton.

cheesy cheesy grin [Careless Laughter]

Lies are like path-works, the seams always show. grin

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 12:01am On May 05
TAO11:
Hmmmm! I never saw that angle. Thank you.

In Summary:
(1) They lied that Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa

(2) Their history admit that Ekalderhan founded Ughoton.

(3) Yet their Oduduwa festival has nothing to do with Ughoton.

cheesy cheesy grin [Careless Laughter]

Lies are like path-works, the seams always show. grin

. You won kill the fezz guy....

He doesn't even know anything beyond the internet myth Mtcheew
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 12:03am On May 05
Fezz:


What was Oduduwas title when he was king of ile-ife ? Because it was not Ooni.


Like Oduduwa even existed TAO11 go finsh yiu nor b u won argue myth

Wait until she used egharevba narrative to finsh you
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 12:07am On May 05
gregyboy:
Like Oduduwa even existed TAO11 go finsh yiu nor b u won argue myth

Wait until she used egharevba narrative to finsh you
I have a genuine question for you. Shall I proceed?



Disclaimer: Please don’t feel too dignified because Tao is exchanging words with you. Thank you!
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by IDENNAA(m): 12:07am On May 05
LMAO....when we showed you your true father you thought we were fooling around. Now your papa don come out come show us who truly fathered you. Bini people are sub tribe of Yoruba nation. You have absolutely nothing in common with any Igbo speaking group. Just because you bordered Anioma and a minute migration from Bini went eastward, culture diffused all of a sudden you want to claim a proper Igbo speaking group just because of Bini elements in Anioma who are very vocal and loud. Nobi your Omonoba dey wan celebrate Igue Oduduwa like so ?

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 12:37am On May 05
IDENNAA:
LMAO....when we showed you your true father you thought we were fooling around. Now your papa don come out come show us who truly fathered you. Bini people are sub tribe of Yoruba nation. You have absolutely nothing in common with any Igbo speaking group. Just because you bordered Anioma and a minute migration from Bini went eastward, culture diffused all of a sudden you want to claim a proper Igbo speaking group just because of Bini elements in Anioma who are very vocal and loud. Nobi your Omonoba dey wan celebrate Igue Oduduwa like so ?


Mechunu
Juliusmalema
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 7:59am On May 05
gregyboy:


. You won kill the fezz guy....

He doesn't even know anything beyond the internet myth Mtcheew

Dude stop whinning like a kid. It doesn't make you look good in public space. If you don't have anything sensible to offer just stay quiet by the corner and stop ranting. Samuk will never do what you are doing and that is why I said he has more wisdom than you, and yet you keep on comparing yourself to him. Take life easy okay. Cheers!
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 8:11am On May 05
TAO11:
Horse’s mouth?

When a liar lies and claims it is the truth, we must believe him because he is a hOrSe, right? grin cheesy

First of all, which “history” were you talking about when you said Ajaka is younger than Eweka as HiStOrY cLeArLy dEpIcTs?? Hehe undecided

In what kind of reasoning does an individual take on a praise-title because of his half-brother’s mother.

Secondly, Oranmiyan is Oyo’s first king. Ajaka is NOT Oyo’s first king. Ajaka does NOT even come in in any way, shape, or form.

Moreover, Eweka-1 is the classically recognized first Oba of Benin before the official standardization of the year 2016 by Ewuare-2.

Erediauwa was the 38th Benin oba, but his immediate successor (Ewuare-2) names himself as the 40th Benin oba. You get the gist? cheesy

Lol. Yorubas didn’t give Benin kings any appellation. The Yoruba appellation of the Benin kings were collected by Europeans writing from Benin. So, try another excuse. [ cheesy careless laughter].

You have no clue. Of course you should have no clue. You’re just an extra Benin layman.

Your own people informed Europeans that the tribal marks drawn on your obas face during coronation is Yoruba tribal marks.

I look forward to reading another excuse and pleading from you. Taink you. cheesy

You are just blabbing without making any sense. You think writing long sermons will cover your emptiness. I asked a simple question and you are giving me long epistles. What is the name of the title given to Oduduwa during his reign?..

It is the yorubas that gave oba N'edo the appellations, stop lying.

Regarding the tribal mark, I have no clue what you are talking about. You are just trying to make a fuse out of nothing. Name the obas that have Yoruba tribal marks and let's see pics if possible, or did you see Yoruba tribal marks on Oba N'edo Ewuare ii face ?

I'm not here to argue. I just make my points and move on. I don't have time for unecessary jargons.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 8:14am On May 05
gregyboy:



Like Oduduwa even existed TAO11 go finsh yiu nor b u won argue myth

Wait until she used egharevba narrative to finsh you

It is obvious your are running away from a hitted argument with the Yoruba liars and that's why you have chosen the easy way out to claim Oduduwa does not exist. Shame!!
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 11:58am On May 05
Fezz:


It is obvious your are running away from a hitted argument with the Yoruba liars and that's why you have chosen the easy way out to claim Oduduwa does not exist. Shame!!


What do you know about yoruba history,

And what do you know about benin history


If i am arguing on Oduduwa myth i will still be flogging yorubas because i know the real truth
Behind the myth which youre scared to look into yourself


Lol... Ooh because oba says there is Oduduwa history in benin so you believe it can never be false because he is oba of benin

Do you even wonder why the Oduduwa myth always doesn't match....


If you would drop your pride and decide to read benin history thoroughly without allowing people tell you what to believe in
. You wont be talking trash

Better still visit my profile and read.....

Remember anyone even your king would fool you if need be


If you not scared of the truth which youre start reading from my profile threads from there you can start your personal thread

Thats how normal people begin, when you see a new knowledge you dont fight it verbally but
Ideas
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 12:02pm On May 05
Fezz:
You are just blabbing without making any sense. You think writing long sermons will cover your emptiness. I asked a simple question and you are giving me long epistles. What is the name of the title given to Oduduwa during his reign?..

It is the yorubas that gave oba N'edo the appellations, stop lying.

Regarding the tribal mark, I have no clue what you are talking about. You are just trying to make a fuse out of nothing. Name the obas that have Yoruba tribal marks and let's see pics if possible, or did you see Yoruba tribal marks on Oba N'edo Ewuare ii face ?
I'm not here to argue. I just make my points and move on. I don't have time for unecessary jargons.
An irredeemably dull slave of the Benin kings have submitted his latest pleadings as expected of him.

(1) EUrOpEaNs writing from Benin (NOT from Yoruba land) already documented the Yoruba title by which your oba was praised.

Yes I understand that knowing this hurt you, but it is what it is. See R. E. Dennett (1906).

(2) Yes, you are not expected to have clue. You are a Bini dullard, remember.

However, ethnographic evidence documented by the EUrOpEaN observer (Michael Crowder, 1978) noted that at certain points during the traditional coronation rites, the incoming Benin king has Yoruba tribal mark drawn with chalk on his cheek.

But somehow, an irredeemably dumb slave of Benin kings (i.e. @Fezz) needs to see a permanent impressions formed by CHALK on his masters’ cheeks.

Is God not wonderful? cheesy

(3) Oh I saw where you wrote Oba N’Edo. LMAO! I guess you’re embarrassed by the actual title which is Omon’oba N’Edo. Lol.

I love it when I force Bini liars to tell more lies in an attempt to cover up their previous lies.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 12:49pm On May 05
TAO11:
An irredeemably dull slave of the Benin kings have submitted his latest pleadings as expected of him.

(1) EUrOpEaNs writing from Benin (NOT from Yoruba land) already documented the Yoruba title by which your oba was praised.

Yes I understand that knowing this hurt you, but it is what it is. See R. E. Dennett (1906).

(2) Yes, you are not expected to have clue. You are a Bini dullard, remember.

However, ethnographic evidence documented by the EUrOpEaN observer (Michael Crowder, 1978) noted that at certain points during the traditional coronation rites, the incoming Benin king has Yoruba tribal mark drawn with chalk on his cheek.

But somehow, an irredeemably dumb slave of Benin kings (i.e. @Fezz) needs to see a permanent impressions formed by CHALK on his masters’ cheeks.

Is God not wonderful? cheesy

(3) Oh I saw where you wrote Oba N’Edo. LMAO! I guess you’re embarrassed by the actual title which is Omon’oba N’Edo. Lol.

I love it when I force Bini liars to tell more lies in an attempt to cover up their previous lies.


1978 article you said kiss.. that sums it up mate. The revitionists are at work. They had to wait that long to put it in record that chalk was used to draw yoruba tribal marks on the Obas face. Such senseless talk. We have so many bronze heads of the obas, show me one where yoruba tribal mark is present. You guys employed whites and the British to distort Benin history in the 1970's and you think we will fall for it. Why weren't such articles about tribal marks recorded pre colonial era. Nonsense!

I'm still waiting for you to tell me Oduduwas title. The Benin chiefs took Oduduwa as his title and that is why he's still recognised as Oduduwa till today. We all know his real name was Ekalederan. In Benin Kingdom once you become a king, you are addressed using your kingship name while your real name is discarded.

That is the mistake so many people make. This is his real title "Omon’oba N’Edo".. Oba is just the short form of his title and that's why the yorubas think it's a yorubas word whereas it's purely a Benin title.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 1:05pm On May 05
gregyboy:



What do you know about yoruba history,

And what do you know about benin history


If i am arguing on Oduduwa myth i will still be flogging yorubas because i know the real truth
Behind the myth which youre scared to look into yourself


Lol... Ooh because oba says there is Oduduwa history in benin so you believe it can never be false because he is oba of benin

Do you even wonder why the Oduduwa myth always doesn't match....


If you would drop your pride and decide to read benin history thoroughly without allowing people tell you what to believe in
. You wont be talking trash

Better still visit my profile and read.....

Remember anyone even your king would fool you if need be


If you not scared of the truth which youre start reading from my profile threads from there you can start your personal thread

Thats how normal people begin, when you see a new knowledge you dont fight it verbally but
Ideas

You claim the Ogisos are a myth as well. I have nothing to discuss with you because you clearly don't know your roots. I will give you an assignment, feel free to submit it anytime. Go and find out the difference between folklore/fairytale and oral history.

The fact that the Portuguese where not around during the ogiso era does not mean they didn't exist. Our forefathers past on ancient history using our bronze casting and oral history. We are far different from the yoruba tribe because they built their history on folklore/fairytales.
In Benin history, you will never hear of stories of someone descending from the sky with chains or certain people turning into rivers or lakes. Our history is far more factual and authentic. You better find pride in our history and defend it instead of cutting corners by saying certain ancestors didn't exist.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by temitope27(m): 1:12pm On May 05
fregeneh:


benin lie to them self's yet still believed the same lies to be true, his title name changed once he become king king of where king of benin right ? so pathetic I wonder how someone you never knew existed before his grandson came to colonies you title change when he became king
thank you sir someone who never even become a king how can they change his name
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by temitope27(m): 1:13pm On May 05
Fezz:


Oduduwa is the title name of Ekalederan. In Benin a king is always known by his title name once he becomes king. Why don't you call Oba Ewuare by his real name, I'm sure you don't even know his real name. Ekalederan's name changed to Oduduwa once he became king and that is why he's known as Oduduwa till today and he's celebrated with that name.
Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba unless you disect his name into pieces like you guys always do, but Oduduwa is a pure Benin name, we don't need to break it down into pieces or add anything to his name before it has a meaning.
oduduwa was never a king in Benin his son oranmigan was so how can they change his name
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 1:14pm On May 05
temitope27:
thank you sir someone who never even become a king how can they change his name

LOL... who was never a king?
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 1:17pm On May 05
temitope27:
oduduwa was never a king in Benin his son oranmigan was so how can they change his name

The Benins didn't change his name to Oduduwa. The people in ile-ife corrupted his name from Izoduwa to Oduduwa and that was his title since then. As God will have it even though his name was corrupted to Oduduwa, it still has a strong meaning in Benin language but it doesn't have any meaning in yoruba language unless the fabricators start with their fabrications kiss kiss
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 1:43pm On May 05
Fezz:
1978 article you said kiss.. that sums it up mate. The revitionists are at work. They had to wait that long to put it in record that chalk was used to draw yoruba tribal marks on the Obas face. Such senseless talk. We have so many bronze heads of the obas, show me one where yoruba tribal mark is present. You guys employed whites and the British to distort Benin history in the 1970's and you think we will fall for it. Why weren't such articles about tribal marks recorded pre colonial era. Nonsense!
Another senseless pleading as is to be expected :- yOrUbAs HiReD tHe EuRoPeANs tO wRiTe tHaT. Very typical. cheesy

Wait! Did you really ask about Benin bronze with chalk marks of Yoruba tribal marks? cheesy What!? shocked Which hole were your dug out from?? grin

By the way chalks are not one and the same thing as razor. cheesy grin I needed to point that out to you due to your confusion.

And which Benin bronze depicts the coronation stage noted by M. Crowder, or which Benin bronze depicts any coronation event at all?? Your dumbness syndrome na follow come. cheesy

And please point out any single pRe-CoLoNiAL article which discusses Benin coronation.

Use your brain for once today, this is the only escape route you have from remaining a slave of the Yoruba dynasty in Benin kingdom. Haha!

I'm still waiting for you to tell me Oduduwas title. Is there any reason why The Benin chiefs took Oduduwa as his title and that is why he's still recognised as Oduduwa till today. We all know his real name was Ekalederan. In Benin Kingdom once you become a king, you are addressed using your kingship name while your real name is discarded.
Oduduwa is NOT a title, dullard.

No Benin Chief took Oduduwa as a title, dullard.

He is NOT Ekaladerhan because historians have called out your Benin fraudster on that.

Oduduwa didn’t rule Benin, so your pleading is of zero consequence.

Iginuwa went to rule Itsekiri, and his name remained his name, Iginuwa.

That is the mistake so many people make. This is his real title "Omon’oba N’Edo".. Oba is just the short form of his title and that's why the yorubas think it's a yorubas word whereas it's purely a Benin title.
Why do you Binis strongly believe that if you repeat a lie many times it will magically transform into truth?? Lol. Why?

Oba is NOT a short form of Omon’oban’Edo.

Oba is a Yoruba word, while Omon’oban’Edo is a phrase that contains the word Oba.

Your king is the son of a king elsewhere. Your Oba is an Omo n’Oba.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by temitope27(m): 1:54pm On May 05
Fezz:

LOL... who was never a king?
I mean oduduwa was never a king in Benin
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by temitope27(m): 1:56pm On May 05
Fezz:


The Benins didn't change his name to Oduduwa. The people in ile-ife corrupted his name from Izoduwa to Oduduwa and that was his title since then. As God will have it even though his name was corrupted to Oduduwa, it still has a strong meaning in Benin language but it doesn't have any meaning in yoruba language unless the fabricators start with their fabrications kiss kiss
so I you know his real name(izoduwa) y not call lyk that and calling him oduduwa

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 3:08pm On May 05
Fezz:


You claim the Ogisos are a myth as well. I have nothing to discuss with you because you clearly don't know your roots. I will give you an assignment, feel free to submit it anytime. Go and find out the difference between folklore/fairytale and oral history.

The fact that the Portuguese where not around during the ogiso era does not mean they didn't exist. Our forefathers past on ancient history using our bronze casting and oral history. We are far different from the yoruba tribe because they built their history on folklore/fairytales.
In Benin history, you will never hear of stories of someone descending from the sky with chains or certain people turning into rivers or lakes. Our history is far more factual and authentic. You better find pride in our history and defend it instead of cutting corners by saying certain ancestors didn't exist.


Guy stop priding with ignorance....

I wont go extra miles to dig up materials to disprove you dont worth it,

You dont worth it, not at a particular time i am busy....

Your laziness stinks i want to belive you're yoruba trying to use an edo identity against me on a norms an edo man wont be this persistence you remain a suspect....


Anyway the benins in 1600 told europeans

Ogiso ruled in the time of "no sun or moon", i hope you regard this as a fairycious statement

If you need me to dig you this particular quote with refrence, i will charge you 3k for it, for your laziness and blockheadness


Are you aware as far back as 1400Ad europeans visited the benin palace to take document about their history...
They didnt just visit benin they actually visited the palace and had a chat with the benin royals and even spoke bini


The origin of ogba river were a human turned into a river is a myth,

Are you aware benin origin of creation...

How osanobua children descend fron the sky to earth only that in the myth they didnt specify their neans of transportation unlike the yorubas who specified theirs as chain climbers, probably osanobua children jumped from heaven to earth

Again the Portuguese relationship with binis ended very shortly it lasted 200yrs,you mentioning Portuguese instead of europeans tells how little you know in benin history


My guy go sitdown

You dont know benin history, you dont know yoruba history but attacked me proactively with an empty coconut head

If you pick a book and research bini and yoruba history thoroughly will you die.......


You know nothing i can detect is the history you read on net, that you came here to argue on

Nairaland is a place to meet people who are smarter and knowledgeable than you, you can only learn new thing if you drop what you already know

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by davidnazee: 3:30pm On May 05
TAO11:
Another senseless pleading as is to be expected :- yOrUbAs HiReD tHe EuRoPeANs tO wRiTe tHaT. Very typical. cheesy

Wait! Did you really ask about Benin bronze with chalk marks of Yoruba tribal marks? cheesy What!? shocked Which hole were your dug out from?? grin

By the way chalks are not one and the same thing as razor. cheesy grin I needed to point that out to you due to your confusion.

And which Benin bronze depicts the coronation stage noted by M. Crowder, or which Benin bronze depicts any coronation event at all?? Your dumbness syndrome na follow come. cheesy

And please point out any single pRe-CoLoNiAL article which discusses Benin coronation.

Use your brain for once today, this is the only escape route you have from remaining a slave of the Yoruba dynasty in Benin kingdom. Haha!

Oduduwa is NOT a title, dullard.

No Benin Chief took Oduduwa as a title, dullard.

He is NOT Ekaladerhan because historians have called out your Benin fraudster on that.

Oduduwa didn’t rule Benin, so your pleading is of zero consequence.

Iginuwa went to rule Itsekiri, and his name remained his name, Iginuwa.

Why do you Binis strongly believe that if you repeat a lie many times it will magically transform into truth?? Lol. Why?

Oba is NOT a short form of Omon’oban’Edo.

Oba is a Yoruba word, while Omon’oban’Edo is a phrase that contains the word Oba.

Your king is the son of a king elsewhere. Your Oba is an Omo n’Oba.

Your argumentative disorder has no cure lol. I told u before you will continue to argue Edo history for a long time..
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by davidnazee: 3:33pm On May 05
gregyboy:



Guy stop priding with ignorance....

I wont go extra miles to dig up materials to disprove you dont worth it,

You dont worth it, not at a particular time i am busy....

Your laziness stings i want to belive you're yoruba trying to use an edo identity against me on a norms an edo man wont be this persistence you remain a suspect....


Anyway the benins in 1600 told europeans

Ogiso ruled in the time of "no sun or moon", i hope you regard this as a fairycious statement

If you need me to dig you this particular quote with refrence, i will charge you 3k for it, for your laziness and blockheadness


Are you aware as far back as 1400Ad europeans visited the benin palace to take document about their history...
They didnt just visit benin they actually visited the palace and had a chat with the benin royals and even spoke bini


The origin of ogba river were a human turned into a river is a myth,

Are you aware benin origin of creation...

How osanobua children descend fron the sky to earth only that in the myth they didnt specify their neans of transportation unlike the yorubas who specified theirs as chain climbers, probably osanobua children jumped from heaven to earth

Again the Portuguese relationship with binis ended very shortly it lasted 200yrs,you mentioning Portuguese instead of europeans tells how little you know in benin history


My guy go sitdown

You dont know benin history, you dont know yoruba history but attacked me proactively with an empty coconut head

If you pick a book and research bini and yoruba history thoroughly will you die.......


You know nothing i can detect is the history you read on net, that you came here to argue on

Nairaland is a place to meet people who are smarter and knowledgeable than you, you can only learn new thing if you drop what you already know




Are u saying Ogisos are not real but fairytales?
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Fezz: 3:39pm On May 05
gregyboy:



Guy stop priding with ignorance....

I wont go extra miles to dig up materials to disprove you dont worth it,

You dont worth it, not at a particular time i am busy....

Your laziness stings i want to belive you're yoruba trying to use an edo identity against me on a norms an edo man wont be this persistence you remain a suspect....


Anyway the benins in 1600 told europeans

Ogiso ruled in the time of "no sun or moon", i hope you regard this as a fairycious statement

If you need me to dig you this particular quote with refrence, i will charge you 3k for it, for your laziness and blockheadness


Are you aware as far back as 1400Ad europeans visited the benin palace to take document about their history...
They didnt just visit benin they actually visited the palace and had a chat with the benin royals and even spoke bini


The origin of ogba river were a human turned into a river is a myth,

Are you aware benin origin of creation...

How osanobua children descend fron the sky to earth only that in the myth they didnt specify their neans of transportation unlike the yorubas who specified theirs as chain climbers, probably osanobua children jumped from heaven to earth

Again the Portuguese relationship with binis ended very shortly it lasted 200yrs,you mentioning Portuguese instead of europeans tells how little you know in benin history


My guy go sitdown

You dont know benin history, you dont know yoruba history but attacked me proactively with an empty coconut head

If you pick a book and research bini and yoruba history thoroughly will you die.......


You know nothing i can detect is the history you read on net, that you came here to argue on

Nairaland is a place to meet people who are smarter and knowledgeable than you, you can only learn new thing if you drop what you already know




If you can't make reasonable points without dropping unnecessary childish abuses then I'm sorry, you can't hear from me again. I don't have time to waste. I don't know you and you don't know who I'm. No wonder they say Nairaland is no longer home to intellectuals but a den for unstable minds. If you like respond to this post or not, but you will never get a reply from me again. It's a total waste of time. Cheers!

Note: Every tribe has a creation story which is usually a myth. You can't compare that to Oduduwa folklore that was meant to have taken place just few centuries ago
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by IDENNAA(m): 3:40pm On May 05
Whenever I see Yoruba and Bini arguing I amazes me because the two are from the same pack it just happens that Edo broke off and formed a different identity, shikena. The Bini are probably a splinter group who moved East and formed a new identity with aboriginals. This is common sense but I guess common sense can be rare sometimes. Africans are so uncivilized including my own Igbo people.

We fight over senseless things like who invented the Oba title.

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