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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 3:48pm On May 09
gregyboy:
We have so many word for child this is one example
Ovbi, owokan, omo
Even the word “omo” in the Binis’ usage is not used in a general or common sense.

It is reserved particularly for the free-borns, e.g. the royal Yoruba lineage of Benin.

Cc: babtoundey, fregeneh

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 4:18pm On May 09
TAO11:
“Omo” is reserved for the free-borns, e.g. the royal Yoruba lineage of Benin.

Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping


America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 4:18pm On May 09
gregyboy:
I keep beating you at this everytime dont you get tired

I left politics thread longtime again away from paid political zombies and tribal bigot thinking
Culture thread another thing i like and thought it would be more interesting to talk on, and there people like you resides lieing machines

I will see be leaving culture thread from you lots fully back to politics and fucking be cuting those political zombie heads when i arrive

I have done enough good on culture
Dear @Fezz:

The actual questions I had put to you in reply to your comment is as shown in the screenshot below.

Your fellow dummy here has volunteered to assist you in answering those questions.

Are you of the opinion that his incoherent rants here actually address any aspect of my questions to you??

If YES, then please point out how. Thanks.

Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 4:21pm On May 09
Fezz:
It is well known that there was a pregnant woman who was meant to be sacrificed to the Yoruba gods for roaming the streets during a particular festival. Her life was spared because she was pregnant and she was told to dedicate her unborn child to serve the yoruba gods. She eventually gave birth and dedicated her child to serve the Yoruba gods. This child later became the chief priest that worked under oduduwa. His job was to fetch herbs and look after the shrine when oduduwa was busy doing other things. This child was named "Ooni". This was the first time the name "Ooni" was used on Yoruba land... But just take a look at these disgraceful fabricators on nairaland claiming that Ooni was derived from Oghone, presumed to be the same person as Oghene. Just imagine the concoction of fables put together by the Yoruba revionists. This is a shame. Lol
All (including your version) are debunked already. But see attached.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 4:29pm On May 09
gregyboy:
Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping

America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 5:01pm On May 09
[quote author=TAO11 post=101526235][/quote]


Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping

America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 5:04pm On May 09
gregyboy:
Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping

America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap
gregyboy come up with something (e.g. the usual nonsense) — at least try to save Benin kingdom from me. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 5:10pm On May 09
TAO11:
gregyboy come up with something (e.g. the usual nonsense) — at least try to save Benin kingdom from me. grin

Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping

America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap

Lol, you cant even save yourself from weed werey
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 5:19pm On May 09
gregyboy:
Tao11 are still on weed.... smiley, i thought we talked about you stopping

America has spoilt you.... You need to be brought back to Africa asap

Lol, you cant even save yourself from weed werey
This is NOT how to save Benin kingdom from me. You’re making matters worse. Try something else.

Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 5:26pm On May 09
TAO11:
This is NOT how to save Benin kingdom from me. You’re making matters worse. Try something else.

Go sitdown afonja


I know you get this kind wicked mark for face

Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by TAO11(f): 5:28pm On May 09
gregyboy:
Go sitdown afonja
I know you get this kind wicked mark for face
Is that not Oba Esigie as a baby receiving his Iwu facial marks?? Hehehe cheesy grin

Save Benin kingdom from me NOW! cheesy

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by fregeneh(m): 8:14pm On May 09
gregyboy:



We have two words for some things in benin

Unlike the yorubas that have one word for a thing with different spellings


Coconut = evin new( benin)
Coconut = kokodia (old benin)

Ass= onisan
Ass ikebe

Child= omo
Owokan (small child, youngest child)

So basically child is omo which was loaned to the yorubas through benin military expansion
Its that omo/child that I'm asking you where did you foredadies get it from?

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 8:26pm On May 09
fregeneh:

Its that omo/child that I'm asking you where did you foredadies get it from?


Its a benin word


Omomo = baby

The word found its way into yoruba lexicon through benin military conquest of the west
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by fregeneh(m): 8:43pm On May 09
Hahahaha the same way
Ogun
iyemoja
olokun
ayelala
IFA
obatala
etc found their way into Yoruba lexicon through benin imaginary military conquest right?
gregyboy:



Its a benin word


Omomo = baby

The word found its way into yoruba lexicon through benin military conquest of the west

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by macof(m): 11:48pm On May 10
Fezz:


Stop deceiving yourself. What does Oduduwa mean in yoruba? It has no meaning whatsoever unless your fabricators starts adding prefix and suffix to the name before it begins to make any sense in Yoruba language. On the other hand, Oduduwa is a typical Benin name. Izoduwa decided to settle with the name 'Oduduwa" because even though his name was corrupted to Oduduwa, the name still made perfect sense to him because he knew the meaning in Benin dialect. That is why he kept "Oduduwa" as his title name.

I will never understand how a human being can be daft enough to say Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba but does in Edo only to go ahead to show that it actually has no meaning in Edo grin
"Oduduwa" is not "Izoduwa". "Odu" and "Izo" are not the same thing. You don't just throw away a part of the name like that and add something unrelated.. Doing exactly what you mean @bold

Accusing Yoruba of what you were about to do in the next sentence
This only shows that the people who came up with the story in the 70s were intellectually deficient

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Juliusmalema: 10:08pm On May 11
gregyboy:



Mechunu
Juliusmalema


Mechie Onu not Mechunu...

Lol.

I have told you that I will gladly teach you igbo language only one condition.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Ideadoctor(m): 5:45am On Jun 22
gregyboy:


The was never the first ruler title, it has always been oba


The ogiso the benins mentioned to europeans in the 1600Ad were one of their mythical faiy tale stories


The benin tradition doesnt even belive in heaven they believed in the world that existed here on earth, they believed the oba who is a supereme God throne was on earth

They didnt believe in heaven which could have been result of contact with europeans over time for them to be having that thought

I believed with the europeans interaction over time during the ancient period made them to start associating A God to the heavens

Which birthed ogiso narrative

You need to understand the benin traditional belive system to get my point here

The ethnographer who took the history of ogiso narrative by benins could have even influenced the benin people on assumptions of a sky king...like Jesus


Without any further bothering


Just know there was never ogisos who really ruled bini, it is a bini myth you need to read bini ancient text writing by europeans to know this

The bini people started by migrating to their present location and they once lived in fragmented clan and each clan rose to be stronger with leaders protecting their clans, but they were so much dissatisfaction coming from the rulers the various benin clan, and man called eweka rose up from a particular clan and fought wars with the other clans defeated their leaders and formed an autonomous kingdom, after a while some clans wanted to succeed and they were attacked and defeated and there was a need to form a central government were the oba was supreme


Now oba eweka from my research would be the founder of benin kingdom and was the first oba

Ogiso were mythical talks because the benin religion does not believe in heaven they beleive on life at earth that is on land and and sea after death, the European contact was likely what made them consider life on air


Have you seen this bronze casting


The bronze shows my illustrations

The oba holdimg a leopard signifying is contol over the fofest (land) and the oba holding a fish signifying sea

There was nothing show an heavenly beign dominated the oba in heavens


If you really need a discussion buzz me up
werey! You still dey run mouth. Bini this bini that. You no dey tire? Lie Is your area of specialization. Omode.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Ideadoctor(m): 5:46am On Jun 22
TAO11:
Even the word “omo” in the Binis’ usage is not used in a general or common sense.

It is reserved particularly for the free-borns, e.g. the royal Yoruba lineage of Benin.

Cc: babtoundey, fregeneh

Tao11 weldone, it has been long.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Ideadoctor(m): 5:54am On Jun 22
davidnazee:


Even TAO11's obsession is already a proof of Benin influence over the Yorubas.
listen boy, look around you, in the words you speak, in things you see, in clothes you wear, it is Yoruba. Yorubas are great in the past, in the present and more greatness is coming to us in the future. We are like the sun that all eyes see, we are beyond the shores of Africa, we are the root of the faith of many, the anscenstors of billions and the source of your royalty. Benin would forever be under the hold of oranmiyan our father, the great conqueror of the barbarians (ogisos).

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 7:51am On Jun 22
Ideadoctor:
werey! You still dey run mouth. Bini this bini that. You no dey tire? Lie Is your area of specialization. Omode.

Ozwor,

Yoruba defender
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by gregyboy(m): 7:54am On Jun 22
Ideadoctor:
listen boy, look around you, in the words you speak, in things you see, in clothes you wear, it is Yoruba. Yorubas are great in the past, in the present and more greatness is coming to us in the future. We are like the sun that all eyes see, we are beyond the shores of Africa, we are the root of the faith of many, the anscenstors of billions and the source of your royalty. Benin would forever be under the hold of oranmiyan our father, the great conqueror of the barbarians (ogisos).

You're still living in your own, dresms i hooe you wake up soon amd realize it


Yorubas are cowards, their population have been a blessing to them nothing more

Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Ideadoctor(m): 7:59am On Jun 22
gregyboy:


You're still living in your own, dresms i hooe you wake up soon amd realize it


Yorubas are cowards, their population have been a blessing to them nothing more
learn to give honor to those that deserves honor boy, give thanks to the yorubas for the civilization they brought to your ascenstors.
Either you recognize the lordship of the yorubas or not it doesn't change the stable fact that Benin is our colony.
You ingrates! We gave you a name, a king from the seeds of the living god of ife, we taught you art,we taught you how to count days and months,now you think you have grown. Forever till kingdom come, you are a conquered people. But I will advice you to stop staining the great Yoruba culture and history,or else your entire acenstors would bear the insults from me. Funny boy.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Ideadoctor(m): 8:12am On Jun 22
gregyboy:



Nope you funny because ypu dont think, you see only what people want you to see

I read the obvious message on screenshot before i sent it, i thought you would see beyond what was written and get my message

But you still need to be spoon fed


I pity the benins of this generation

Even to defend the history our ancestor made they cant....


If i was select true binis people like ur kind would be out listed
(laughs) liars don't agree. Since you lots had decided to base your judgement on lies you will always contradict each other.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by UGBE634: 5:53pm On Jun 22
Juliusmalema:


I have since stopped replying weak argument.

Edo origin...Edo ancestry...Is Nnaemeka an Edo word?

Is Ifeanyi an Edo word? Do you even know the meaning?

Is there anything like obi in Edo?

But we have oba both in Edo and Yorubas.
Tunde, Rotimi, Olusegun, segun both in Edo and Yorubas....history Oduduwa...

This is logic, sound plus visible at that.
It is not a general thing for Edos to bear Yoruba name. Most Edos don't bear it, you will only find such phenomenon among Edos that are bordered by, those who grew up in and those whose mum are yorubas. As an Edo man you can't interpret those names except with the exceptions I mentioned above who as a result of those circumstances are Bilingual.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by UGBE634: 8:46am On Jun 23
"NAN reports that Odudua rite is a ceremony used to commemorate the return of Oranmiyan, the son of Odudua, to his biological land of Benin."


Malema you forgot this.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Juliusmalema: 7:31pm On Jun 23
UGBE634:
It is not a general thing for Edos to bear Yoruba name. Most Edos don't bear it, you will only find such phenomenon among Edos that are bordered by, those who grew up in and those whose mum are yorubas. As an Edo man you can't interpret those names except with the exceptions I mentioned above who as a result of those circumstances are Bilingual.

Bilingual means a lot existed. Even chief staff to Governor obaseki or is it SSG has a Yoruba name.

The interconnectivity remains the reason the history is conflicting but one thing we know is that Edo and yoruba are same people.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by Juliusmalema: 7:32pm On Jun 23
UGBE634:
"NAN reports that Odudua rite is a ceremony used to commemorate the return of Oranmiyan, the son of Odudua, to his biological land of Benin."


Malema you forgot this.

Leave what was reported but facts that both divide only tries to promote themselves.

It only means they are one.
Re: Oba Of Benin Announces Date For Outdoor Ceremony Of Odudua Rites by UGBE634: 8:54pm On Jun 23
Juliusmalema:


Bilingual means a lot existed. Even chief staff to Governor obaseki or is it SSG has a Yoruba name.

The interconnectivity remains the reason the history is conflicting but one thing we know is that Edo and yoruba are same people.
And I have told you they are not in the majority. An Edo man cannot and is not suppose to be able to interpret Yoruba names. The fact you see them in Yoruba land does not mean they make up the majority at all. people from communities in Uhuwonde, Orhiowmon, ikpoba okha, oredo, Egor cannot do not come with those names except they have Yoruba mothers. There are Over 200 bini speaking communities in the two Ovia local government areas. But you only get to see them in their numbers in about 8 of them bordering ondo state. Taiwo akerele is not from Bini, he is from the northern part of Edo. Those Edoids groups that directly borders akoko in ondo state. You know this thing with proximity, sometimes you take up the language of your host as a second language in order for you to survive for the purpose of trade, interaction and all especially when your neighbours are in the majority and you are far from your host. We are not the same at all. As these yoruboid groups are to Binis and other groups in Edo state so is Ekpon to Esan. Ekpon bear Igboid names, some of them in Ekpon because they are Bilingual and their second language is close to Ika. It is only Ekpon that can interpret those names, and Ekpon is a minute part of Esanland. One can't say because Ekpon is Bilingual and is Igboid, the whole of Esan is one and the same with Igbo.

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