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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Rickbronz(m): 6:46am On May 06
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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by fadigalfemi(m): 6:47am On May 06
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security


Am sure u Don't know what it takes to be msc holder .....stupid entity

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Buffalo2(m): 7:19am On May 06
Ego, ego and more ego. Tell ur buddy to change his ways. He's too pompous.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Barbara007(f): 7:31am On May 06
FrLukas:


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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Psoul(m): 7:39am On May 06
VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?

Next time, when you want to censor or blur a post, pls do it very well. Chose a colour that will properly hide those things u don't want people to see.

All ur censored parts are still very visible.
I can still read them and people can easily know who and which organization ur friend had this issue wt.
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Leomyke4(m): 8:00am On May 06
From an HR officer perspective:

You have an MSC, so what? Do you have any idea how many quality CVs came in? Do you have any idea what the selection criterias are? Experience?
professional certification? Skill requirements?

This Hr Officer must have been impressed with you CV but because you do not meet the criteria placed on the role you applied for, he shortlisted you for one that you're qualified for. If you didn't want it, just say you're not interested.

You didn't even think to call head of human resources or the hr officer direct supervisor.. Na CEO u wan call, like the decision to shortlist you was not approved by the head of Hr... Your call would have been a waste of time and the CEO would just apologize... FINISH but you, you've most likely been blacklisted from ever being employed in that company and subsidiaries. Blacklist book dey HR office, continue being proud and rude to every HR officer, you hear

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by ABANGWABOI(m): 8:19am On May 06
Nbotee:


Oga wen U know ur worth and value den U won't tale nonsense from people. For someone who was already doing a high paying job and U expect him to clap for the HR officer for telling him he's only fit for an entry level position? Wen u don't attach any value to urself U'll appreciate every and any nonsense dats thrown ur way.


Don't mind the idiot.. they think acquiring Msc is as easy as passing common entrance exam, this guy that you quoted might be a weac holder or one of this idiots that sorted their way thru a polytechnic..
I dey do my Msc and baba e no easy at all..
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by alexsoftwork(m): 8:24am On May 06
MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

Imagine say u apply for the post of a departmental manager, Dem call u say u say "na position of cleaner fit ur CV", u go take the job? Have some self respect bro/sis. Just because job no dey, u come reduce it worth. Abi u be rag?
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Biglittlelois(f): 8:43am On May 06
adabaraabdul:
no pride about this. I feel so bad for us all in this country because lack of opportunities have turned alot of us into stooges. This man knows his worth and he isnt desperate. He has the boost for this because he is currently employed, simple.
If you have ever applied for a job and currently well engaged at the moment of application, my brother you will not take nonsense from any HR.


Explain the nonsense he took from the Hr, sometimes most people are really blind because of their personal negative experience with hr, and that's not what is evident in this thread,

The Op's friend was rude, arrogant, and full of himself when he said "do you know who I am" " I have the number of your CEO" bla bla bla is demeaning when I have an MSc" etc

Will it hurt him if he politely reject the offer without showing himself? Must he sound insulting because he was offered what he didn't apply for? He is currently employed with a high pay, good for him, is he forced to take the job? He threatened the hr and his means of livelihood when he said he'd report to his boss, was that really necessary? That shows the kind of wicked heart the applicant has which is very bad.

This has nothing to do with stooges or whatever, he should stay in his current worthy job, and keep looking for his worth, the unnecessary shalaye was plainly off, very very simple.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Biglittlelois(f): 8:45am On May 06
adabaraabdul:
this kind of mentality is what makes these recruitment guys treat people like shit. The HR guy is clearly in the wrong an he needs to be cleared about it.

You know what they say, evil men are able to go unscathed with evil deeds because the good men see it and do nothing about it. And this kind of arrangement makes one worse than the original perpetrator of the act. Just saying.


You are totally blind to the callousness of the applicant because of a personal experience with HRs just admit it, the hr did nothing wrong, the applicant did everything wrong.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by legba1(m): 8:48am On May 06
MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

Not all applicants are beggers with no choice....
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by fripero(m): 8:52am On May 06
Bleep HR and Bleep Applicant all we need is nnamdi kanu
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by jaxxy(m): 8:56am On May 06
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Read the op’s write up and then read the chat conversation. U shud get the picture properly. All the details a deduced are in there.

U raise all the other less likely possibilities from the the company hr and yet quick to call the man hungry like u know who he is, u also fail to look at the scenario of the hr not going through the man’s CV and realizing he works in a much higher capacity already elsewhere with experience. The op stated this.

In any case it is not hr’s Job to tell people what they are best suited for especially when they are over qualified or currently above it because like I said nt everybody looking for a job in a company is jobless many have great jobs bt want a change for a reason. It can be offensive.

U assumed he’s hungry
U assumed he’s jobless
Probably that’s how u see everybody applying for a job and its really bad and unprofessional mindset that can lead u to serious errors.

My reservation is the choice of words, “best suited for” if the man had applied for a much lower job will the hr say he is best suited for a much higher job?? How did hr arrive at the unnecessary conclusions??

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by angelEmade: 9:04am On May 06
MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security
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God bless you. I know with people like you Nigeria can still be great. I really don't understand what's with job seekers and pride. for all I know...that so called 'entry position' could even be better than the job the guy already have.
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Also sometimes, foresight is what matters. What if he gets promoted just two months after resuming? what if they are only testing his humility?? What has cert. or qualifications got to do with all these?? honestly that guy is too full of himself. A complete slowpoke.
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 9:15am On May 06
9jaRealist:




I don’t know these folks from a can of beans (and presumably neither do you), but...

That dude has an MSc degree does not necessarily mean that he has commensurate professional experience.
Accordingly, HR, having looked at his actual working EXPERIENCE, may rightly think him better suited for the proffered role.

If he disagrees, he’s free to amicably keep it moving. It’s not by force!
>
Dude, when someone applies for a role they aren't qualified for, you reject them, it is not by force to employ them in your company either. If you want to give them a lesser role you ask if they are willing to accept it, not to just invite them for interview for a lesser role and tell them that's what they are qualified for. Did you see the part where OP said the guy hung up on him? Is that right?

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 9:21am On May 06
9jaRealist:




More empty PRIDE than self-worth...

Self-worth is simply declining the offer...
PRIDE is the Nigerian “do you know who I am?”

PRIDE assuredly comes before a FALL!
>
When you are disrespected, you don't walk away because you have self worth, you call the person out. HRs will insult more graduates in this country because people like you think it is virtue to accept insults with a smile.
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by GreaterFuture3: 9:23am On May 06
VTJN:
Are you not in Nigeria where PhD holders are vying for federal government 30k job?
That one is a Lie!
PhD holder vying for which 30k Job?
if the worst comes to the worst, he will be teaching in Private Secondary schools and Universities/Polytechnics/colleges etc. Albeit a very top choice in that Category
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 9:23am On May 06
Someone7:


Don't worry about me. Humility inspite of your qualifications pays. I'm laughing the way to the bank every month on my job. Mr "I kNoW mY WoRTh" on the other hand. He got exactly what he deserved. NOTHING! grin grin
It is funny how you think when people apply for a job, it means they are unemployed. I wonder what makes you think he is not laughing to the bank too.
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by joe4christ(m): 9:49am On May 06
MejiLoyon:

I understand. But what is wrong in " I didn't apply for that. I'm not interested" finish. I hope you get where I'm going to? It costs nothing bro. Even if he was with a very high paying job. Humility matters. I know a person heading a hotel. The cook had msc and no one knew until managerial position opened up. Guess what...she earns times two more than the previous manager. The humility startled the owner. There is a thin line between knowing your self worth and pride....

If you had taken time to read through the screenshot of the conversation. You would have noticed where the applicant dropped the mobile number of the CEO of the organization. And told the HR guy that he would have reported him if he had not apologized. So, you see. He could possibly be a friend of the said CEO. And its definitely gonna be insulting for a HR of your friends company to address you that way. Its really demeaning.
And he still ended up advising the guy against future occurrence!
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by optimistic0001: 10:18am On May 06
luminouz:

Don't defend HR cuz you are one. That's Nigerian sentimentalism at work. Applicant and HR are both wrong

My brother, I'm not defending that HR, but saying things how they are. Did you read the screenshots the OP posted, see the HR comments and judge fairly. Let me ask you and other applicants, if you apply for a position and the HR or management consider you for another position instead of discarding your application, will you be sad or arrogant to them like the OP and the friend? What is not your job is not your job and HR is one. Most times, we look at certain things before considering some people or pushing then to various positions instead of discarding their applications. Mind you, I remain kind and respectful to applicants and I even give them tips sometimes on how to face Senior management in the recruitment process because I will be an applicant sometime and anytime. As job applicant, this arrogance and highheadness won't take applicant anywhere, anything you don't like on your recruitment process or job schedules, you can easily say NO and reject it. For the HR to even apologize shows humility, if the OP and friend is not full of themselves or arrogant, since the HR apologize, they will let it go and don't need to bring it here or anywhere. I always tell people the truth at the course of my career even management that I work for.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by princessdoyenne(f): 11:02am On May 06
I like that guy. I like his confidence. I like his response.
He wasn't begging for a job and knew what he wanted from the first instance, so I understand he must have felt slighted when the HR said that. The HR too should have used a better language.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by FrLukas(m): 11:17am On May 06
jaxxy:


Read the op’s write up and then read the chat conversation. U shud get the picture properly. All the details a deduced are in there.

U raise all the other less likely possibilities from the the company hr and yet quick to call the man hungry like u know who he is, u also fail to look at the scenario of the hr not going through the man’s CV and realizing he works in a much higher capacity already elsewhere with experience. The op stated this.

In any case it is not hr’s Job to tell people what they are best suited for especially when they are over qualified or currently above it because like I said nt everybody looking for a job in a company is jobless many have great jobs bt want a change for a reason. It can be offensive.

U assumed he’s hungry
U assumed he’s jobless
Probably that’s how u see everybody applying for a job and its really bad and unprofessional mindset that can lead u to serious errors.

My reservation is the choice of words, “best suited for” if the man had applied for a much lower job will the hr say he is best suited for a much higher job?? How did hr arrive at the unnecessary conclusions??

Isn't it interesting that despite the fact that the original post never mentioned

1. The applicants qualifications

2. The post being applied to

3. What kinda job it is

4. What type of company as per size and industry

5. The applicant's former job description

6. The applicants experience in the field

You and those who have posted like you have immediately condemned the HR guy as unprofessional and wrong.

Quite funny.

Despite the fact that these facts weren't included in the original post, it is safe to allow the benefit of doubt for the HR department that handled his application.

If indeed it is a big firm (otherwise, someone with such an ego problem won't go there) then it is safe to say their HR department isn't just one person.

Erring on the side of caution is giving the HR the benefit of the doubt that they did their job. They could have written a rejection letter or not even responded to his application, but they thought he might fill another position in their firm.

That's reasonable, especially if they want to save money for vacancy advertisement.

Also, many people have an inflated perspective of themselves and their capabilities.

I believe the HR doesn't have a personal opinion, only a professional one based on the CV submitted.

Despite all these, it's their firm and there's no law that compels anyone to hire any specific being.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by FrLukas(m): 11:25am On May 06
joe4christ:


If you had taken time to read through the screenshot of the conversation. You would have noticed where the applicant dropped the mobile number of the CEO of the organization. And told the HR guy that he would have reported him if he had not apologized. So, you see. He could possibly be a friend of the said CEO. And its definitely gonna be insulting for a HR of your friends company to address you that way. Its really demeaning.
And he still ended up advising the guy against future occurrence!

Yinmu.

If he knows the CEO on a personal basis, then what's he doing submitting CV?

Why not go to the CEO directly and ask him for the job?

You guys will believe anything.

Just ask yourself, if you were close enough to Dangote to have his personal phone number, would you write an "I beg to apply..." letter to any Dangote company?

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by FrLukas(m): 11:30am On May 06
GreaterFuture3:

That one is a Lie!
PhD holder vying for which 30k Job?
if the worst comes to the worst, he will be teaching in Private Secondary schools and Universities/Polytechnics/colleges etc. Albeit a very top choice in that Category

Lol.

Google is your friend.

A few years back when Dangote group of companies advertised for the position of drivers, guess who applied?

PhD holders did.

Many Masters holders did.

Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Someone7(m): 11:32am On May 06
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

It is funny how you think when people apply for a job, it means they are unemployed. I wonder what makes you think he is not laughing to the bank too.

It's funny how you think he applied for the job and threw a childish dont-you-know-i-have-msc tantrum when he didn't get it because he loved his current job grin grin

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by GreaterFuture3: 11:39am On May 06
FrLukas:


Lol.

Google is your friend.

A few years back when Dangote group of companies advertised for the position of drivers, guess who applied?

PhD holders did.

Many Masters holders did.
Was Dangote going to pay them 30K NAIRA?
If one or two applied for a Job, doesn't mean many PhD holders applied too.
Most of what is on the internet is half truths, you should know that
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by jaxxy(m): 11:42am On May 06
FrLukas:


Isn't it interesting that despite the fact that the original post never mentioned

1. The applicants qualifications

2. The post being applied to

3. What kinda job it is

4. What type of company as per size and industry

5. The applicant's former job description

6. The applicants experience in the field

You and those who have posted like you have immediately condemned the HR guy as unprofessional and wrong.

Quite funny.

Despite the fact that these facts weren't included in the original post, it is safe to allow the benefit of doubt for the HR department that handled his application.

If indeed it is a big firm (otherwise, someone with such an ego problem won't go there) then it is safe to say their HR department isn't just one person.

Erring on the side of caution is giving the HR the benefit of the doubt that they did their job. They could have written a rejection letter or not even responded to his application, but they thought he might fill another position in their firm.

That's reasonable, especially if they want to save money for vacancy advertisement.

Also, many people have an inflated perspective of themselves and their capabilities.

I believe the HR doesn't have a personal opinion, only a professional one based on the CV submitted.

Despite all these, it's their firm and there's no law that compels anyone to hire any specific being.

A lot of Hr’s are incompetent and irresponsible and even some times plain wicked and these are also very likely possibilities especially in Nigeria. Hr’s also have inflated egos.

The fact Ure in Hr doesn’t automatically mean ure a wonderful person and sound professional especially the low cadre hr staffs. Talk to a hr boss and then u will see a difference in professionalism.

I said read what the op said and read the man’s chat. He’s not even egotistical he even added with all humility in his statement not minding if he was talking to sm1 of much lower professional background or experience to him. What a gentleman.

The rude person might even be the unprofessional hr staff if u ask me.

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Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by luminouz(m): 12:27pm On May 06
optimistic0001:


My brother, I'm not defending that HR, but saying things how they are. Did you read the screenshots the OP posted, see the HR comments and judge fairly. Let me ask you and other applicants, if you apply for a position and the HR or management consider you for another position instead of discarding your application, will you be sad or arrogant to them like the OP and the friend? What is not your job is not your job and HR is one. Most times, we look at certain things before considering some people or pushing then to various positions instead of discarding their applications. Mind you, I remain kind and respectful to applicants and I even give them tips sometimes on how to face Senior management in the recruitment process because I will be an applicant sometime and anytime. As job applicant, this arrogance and highheadness won't take applicant anywhere, anything you don't like on your recruitment process or job schedules, you can easily say NO and reject it. For the HR to even apologize shows humility, if the OP and friend is not full of themselves or arrogant, since the HR apologize, they will let it go and don't need to bring it here or anywhere. I always tell people the truth at the course of my career even management that I work for.
I get your point.

Although I still feel HR has some blame too.

Anyways, do have a nice day
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by fof1: 1:31pm On May 06
MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

Everybody is not the Same and Not every Graduate and with their Certifications are Equal too. Didn't You read that, he is already doing or having a high Flying or Paying Job? So he is not a Beggar, Pls. He knows his Worth and Position. I DO NOT CONSIDER HIM TO BE PROYD OR SELF CONCEITED, BUT VERY CONFIDENT OF HIS STANDINGS,PLS.
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 1:34pm On May 06
Someone7:


It's funny how you think he applied for the job and threw a childish dont-you-know-i-have-msc tantrum when he didn't get it because he loved his current job grin grin
You just made a failed attempt at trying to make sense. undecided
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by Someone7(m): 1:42pm On May 06
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

You just made a failed attempt at trying to make sense. undecided

It's not my fault you don't understand simple English
Re: An Ugly Experience With A HR Officer In Abuja by FrLukas(m): 1:49pm On May 06
jaxxy:


A lot of Hr’s are incompetent and irresponsible and even some times plain wicked and these are also very likely possibilities especially in Nigeria. Hr’s also have inflated egos.

The fact Ure in Hr doesn’t automatically mean ure a wonderful person and sound professional especially the low cadre hr staffs. Talk to a hr boss and then u will see a difference in professionalism.

I said read what the op said and read the man’s chat. He’s not even egotistical he even added with all humility in his statement not minding if he was talking to sm1 of much lower professional background or experience to him. What a gentleman.

The rude person might even be the unprofessional hr staff if u ask me.

Read the last paragraph of my comment you quoted and rest.

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