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Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 4:13pm On May 26, 2021
The Prophetic Office. What's All Abt?

Prophetic Preparation for Office of Prophet
Les D. Crause
What the Office of Prophet Is
The prophet is one who hears from God and speaks forth His Word into the earth. When he speaks it forth, it is sent as a creative word as described by Isaiah the prophet
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth: it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall succeed [in the thing] for which I sent it.
When the prophet of God makes a declaration he does not simply predict or indicate the will of God, but he literally speaks forth a decree into the earth. And that word is sent forth in power to make things happen. So it is very important therefore that the prophet hears correctly before he opens his mouth. And that takes a bit of training and development. He must distinguish his own burden and prejudices from the pure word of God.
So God puts the prophet through a prophetic preparation that causes him to come to a place where he cannot rely on his natural abilities. Even his ability to hear the voice of God must be put in question, that he may never boast in himself.
Prophetic Preparation for the Office of Prophet
Let’s look then at prophetic preparation. One of the best passages that describes this is found in Paul’s second letter to the Corinthians.
2 Corinthians 4: 8 [We are] troubled on every side, yet not distressed; [we are] perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
11 For we which live are always delivered over to death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
12 So then death works in us, but life in you.
I am going to look at some of the verses from this passage and discuss each aspect as it relates to the preparation of the prophet.
For many who are called to the Office of Prophet there is an excitement at the prospect of becoming one who speaks for God and stands forth as one elevated to such an office. You expect God to grant great and wonderful revelations, and as you speak them forth people will stand in awe and wonder and wish they had the privilege you have been given.
But for most who receive this call, there comes a sudden shock when they find themselves being rejected, despised and ostracized because of their ministry. This process is called prophetic preparation.
Prophetic Preparation Stage 1: Everything goes wrong
[We are] troubled on every side, yet not distressed;
You are starting to enter into the prophetic preparation phase for the office of prophet. And the first sign of this is when everything in your life starts to go wrong. You know what it is like when you get up in the morning and it is one of those days when you wish you had stayed in bed. Everything you touch turns sour. Your family members all seem to be against you. Your spouse starts to fight with you. And when you arrive at work the boss and your fellow workers seem to pick up on it. You go to church hoping for some relief and the Pastor and other church members seem to have caught the vision too, and feel they have been called to put you in your place.
But the Scripture tells you that you do not need to be distressed. When all this starts to happen you don’t have to throw your hands up in despair and give up. You realize that the Lord is in a most wonderful way, starting to make you into a vessel that is fit for His use.
Prophetic Preparation Stage 2: The Prophet's emotions are challenged.
[we are] perplexed, but not in despair
Once your emotions have been put out of action, the next thing that God has to deal with is your ability to figure your way out of things. One of the things that often stands in the way of the prophet clearly hearing the voice of God is the voice of his own mind. Your mind has a habit of subjecting everything you receive from the spirit to its own close scrutiny and analysis. You try to reason out what God is saying and why He is saying it, and try to make sense of the Word He has given you. But this tendency, especially in those who are prone to the analytical temperamental traits, can become a great hindrance to the pure flow of prophetic revelation.
But once again, you do not have to end up in despair. All that is happening is that the Lord is trying to get your attention. He is trying to tell you that you cannot rely on your natural mental capabilities. He wants you to realize that your ability to be a prophet has nothing to do with your keen mind.
Prophetic Preparation Stage 3: Prophets in Training are Persecuted, but not forsaken
As if all of that is not bad enough, the next thing you find appearing in your life is opposition from people who you thought would support you. Of course you expected opposition from the world. You probably even expected it from those who are not walking closely with the Lord. But that is not where this stage of prophetic preparation comes from. It comes from those who are the closest to you, and from whom you expected the greatest support and understanding.
And do you know what happens when people start to persecute you? They force you to do what they think is right, and they prevent you from doing what you want to do. In other words, your free will is put out of action. The first two things we spoke of put your emotions and your mind out of action. Now this one puts your will out of action. That means that emotions, mind and will are all put on hold. These are the three functions of the soul, and when they are all blocked, your soul life is put out of action and brought to a condition of death. Welcome to prophetic preparation!
Prophetic Preparation Stage 4: Need for Recognition brought to Death
cast down, but not destroyed
Well you might think that all we have looked at so far is about as much as any person can take, but I have some bad news for you. Prophetic Preparation is not over. Because you see, the self-life that is in you is still alive and well. And although you might be forced to walk humbly before the Lord, there still remains that deep inner need for recognition. It is the one thing that drives us all to achieve in this life. We push ourselves beyond our limits at times, so that we can somehow succeed and receive the rewards of our success – recognition from man.
Is this pride? Not necessarily. It is just the way we are. It is the deep cry for recognition from others. And the acclaim that comes with being praised for your efforts makes it worth all the time and labor you spent getting there. Without this motivation few would ever succeed in anything in life. But for the prophet, this motivation must bow to the call of God and the faithful proclamation of the Word.
Whichever form it takes, be sure that this phase of prophetic preparation will happen to you. Why? So that your ministry can never depend on or be influenced by your need for recognition. The Lord does not want to take away this thing from you. In fact He delights in giving you all the recognition you deserve. But like all other things, it must first be brought to the cross.
Ready to be a Prophet Now? Prophetic Preparation Continues
Am I ready to be a prophet now? Well almost, but not quite. You see although the soulish life is the greatest hindrance to hearing clearly from the Spirit of God that dwells in your spirit, it is not simply the soul that is the problem. It is the tendency of the soul to submit to the body instead of the spirit. This is what the Bible calls ‘walking in the flesh.’
When the natural bodily desires of nourishment, reproduction and self-preservation come to dominate our lives, they give rise to covetousness, lust and bitterness. So the body must also be brought into subjection. It is likely that you will be led into a situation that could cause your body to come under attack. And you will find yourself facing situations where you cannot eat the food that you desire. Where you cannot fulfill the passions even in marriage, and where you are unable to defend yourself. You end up like the Scriptures describe Jesus, a sheep dumb before its shearers, a lamb being led to the slaughter. Prophetic Preparation will bring your body to complete submission to the spirit.
The Prophetic Preparation Walk: Death to the Flesh
When Jesus was crucified on the cross of Calvary He faced terrific physical pain, but He also faced much more than that. He faced rejection by His own people. He faced the torture and humiliation of the Roman soldiers. He was deserted by those who loved Him. And then He was publicly humiliated as they stripped Him nearly naked and took away even the very clothes that He wore. But the height of His suffering was as He hung there on the cross and turned towards the only One who really cared for Him and on whom He could rely – His heavenly Father. And that was when He faced the most painful part of His death. Because even the Father turned His back and looked the other way.
Learning to Die in Prophetic Preparation
But our Savior showed us how to die. He cried out with a loud voice. "It is finished." Andthen He handed himself over to the Father and gave up His spirit. People didn’t usually die this way on the cross. They would hang and suffer there until they became exhausted from struggling to stay alive. They would continually push themselves up on the cross by their feet so that they could still breathe. Only when exhaustion set in and they had no more energy left would they stop doing this, and then they would suffocate to death. That is why the Romans decided to break the legs of the prisoners when Jesus was crucified, so that they would die more quickly. In Prophetic Preparation you will learn how to "Die Already."
Now I want to show you what the Lord taught me from death by crucifixion. Paul said in Galatians 2:20
"I have been crucified with Christ."
He was speaking about us becoming identified with Jesus in His death. And although our old nature was nailed to the cross with Jesus, and we by faith now reach out and take that death and apply it to ourselves, it takes an experimental application of the cross to our lives to cause sin to be dealt with in the flesh.
Prophetic Preparation Means Identifying with the Death of Christ
No one can experience the death of the cross alone. You cannot commit suicide by crucifixion in prophetic preparation. You can only hold up your hands and invite someone to nail you to the cross. And if you wish to go through the preparation and the death that it entails, then you have to commit yourself to the Lord and invite Him to prepare you. And when you do this, you can expect to feel some nails being driven in. You can expect to have someone spit in your face, and push a crown of thorns on your head. And you can expect those who are closest to you to desert you.
Prophetic Preparation Death: Letting Go
But the final death can only come when you make a choice to let go. While you push up on the cross and struggle to stay alive, the pain will only continue. But when you can with the Lord Jesus declare, "It is finished," and yield up your spirit in death, then it will end. And thethere will come a season in the grave followed by the victorious resurrection of your ministry in the fullness of power. If you don’t allow this to happen, then you become a candidate for leg breaking in your prophetic preparation. And the Lord has to take drastic measures to bring you fully to the end of yourself.
Is your Prophetic Office Calling Real?
You are reading this study as one who has been called by God to the Office of Prophet. And if this was a true calling, you know and acknowledge that what I have said is true. And you have been going through the mill in your prophetic preparation. The pressure has been on, probably for a long period of time already. The chances are you are totally confused by all of this and do not understand what has been happening. It is called Prophetic Preparation. And I want to assure you now that it is not necessary for the pain to continue. You can end it all very quickly by recognizing what God is telling you and coming to the end.
You must stop struggling and yield to what has been happening. When you are falsely accused you must not try to defend yourself and seek justification or vindication. But you must submit yourself humbly and die. And when you do this, all the turmoil will cease. The noise will disappear. And there will come a calm such as you have never known in a long time. And there will come a deep stirring inside you that you will not be able to understand. Now is the time to let go of all effort and ministry. In fact you would probably do better to avoid any kind of spiritual activity at all. Just get involved in something secular. And leave the Lord to do His work in secret, because the body is now placed in the tomb.
Jesus spent three full days in the tomb, and during that period He accomplished our redemption from the powers of darkness. They thought they had defeated Him, but on the third day He arose triumphant, with power and authority, having the keys of death and Hades. He was given the Name above every other name. And He took His place in heaven, sending forth the power of the Holy Spirit upon the church and interceding at the right hand of the Father.
Prophetic Preparation Time in the Grave
So once you have gone through death, there will come a waiting period, where you will remain in the grave. And nothing will seem to be happening. Do not let it concern you, because things are happening that you cannot see. Just wait for the resurrection, for it will surely come. And when it comes, there will come a new power and a new authority. And suddenly your ministry will spring forth in power and authority. And you will rise up to take your place as a fully-fledged Prophet of God.
Of course that is not the end. There will be further times of training and further deaths to go through. Each new stage in your development will follow a very similar trend. But each one will also bring a greater depth of understanding and involvement in the Body of Christ.
Prophetic Preparation is Real!

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Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 4:22pm On May 26, 2021
Truvelisback:
The Prophetic Office. What's All Abt?

Prophetic Preparation for Office of Prophet
Les D. Crause
What the Office of Prophet Is
The prophet is one who hears from God and speaks forth His Word into the earth. When he speaks it forth, it is sent as a creative word as described by Isaiah the prophet
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth: it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall succeed [in the thing] for which I sent it.
When the prophet of God makes a declaration he does not simply predict or indicate the will of God, but he literally speaks forth a decree into the earth. And that word is sent forth in power to make things happen. So it is very important therefore that the prophet hears correctly before he opens his mouth. And that takes a bit of training and development. He must distinguish his own burden and prejudices from the pure word of God.
So God puts the prophet through a prophetic preparation that causes him to come to a place where he cannot rely on his natural abilities. Even his ability to hear the voice of God must be put in question, that he may never boast in himself.
In the New Covenant relationship, Jesus Christ, between God and individual man, every follower of Jesus Christ is a de facto prophet, for every one of them hears from God and speak the Truth of Jesus Christ and the only preparation to becoming a prophet of God is submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.. this the only training necessity and the way of life for all called to believing in Jesus Christ by God. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 9:22am On May 27, 2021
Kobojunkie:
In the New Covenant relationship, Jesus Christ, between God and individual man, every follower of Jesus Christ is a de facto prophet, for every one of them hears from God and speak the Truth of Jesus Christ and Christ only preparation to becoming a prophet of God is through submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.. this the only training necessity and the way of life for all called to believing in Jesus Christ by God. undecided
What Do U Mean By De Facto? It Has Nothing To Do With What U Are Saying. Dis Not A Salvation Message.
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 2:06pm On May 27, 2021
Truvelisback:
What Do U Mean By De Facto? It Has Nothing To Do With What U Are Saying. Dis Not A Salvation Message.
Salvation message? undecided
Read carefully what is stated....
Kobojunkie:
In the New Covenant relationship, Jesus Christ, between God and individual man, every follower of Jesus Christ is a de facto prophet, for every one of them hears from God and speak the Truth of Jesus Christ and Christ only preparation to becoming a prophet of God is through submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.. this the only training necessity and the way of life for all called to believing in Jesus Christ by God. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 3:10pm On May 28, 2021
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Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 2:55pm On May 30, 2021
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Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 9:58am On Jun 16, 2021
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Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 11:01am On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
In the New Covenant relationship, Jesus Christ, between God and individual man, every follower of Jesus Christ is a de facto prophet, for every one of them hears from God and speak the Truth of Jesus Christ and

Not allnare prophets . Not allnhave the gift of prophecy. there are different gifts and different offices in the body of christ

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 11:55am On Jun 16, 2021
petra1:

Not allnare prophets . Not allnhave the gift of prophecy. there are different gifts and different offices in the body of christ

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

1. In the Kingdom of God , there is only one Teacher, one Shepherd, one Master, one Fathed, one Head, one Leader/Authority, one Helper, one Comforter, one Counselor, one Father, over each one who belongs to Jesus Christ. undecided

2. In the Kingdom of God, inside of everyone of those who belong to Him .I.e. those who live in continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ,God's Law(Truth) the Father, through His very own Spirit comes and makes His home - John 14 vs 23-26. And it is through the very same that He speaks His very Word to the people of the world, causing them do His Will, Just as Jesus Christ did before them - John 15 vs 5 - 11. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 1:16pm On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. In the Kingdom of God , there is only one Teacher, one Shepherd, one Master, one Fathed, one Head, one Leader/Authority, one Helper, one Comforter, one Counselor, one Father, over each one who belongs to Jesus Christ.

There are many teachers. There are many prophets . There are many Apostles. Jesus is chief corner stone .

Ephesians 2:20 (KJV)
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;


Eph 4:11 — Eph 4:12 (KJV)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 1:34pm On Jun 16, 2021
petra1:

There are many teachers. There are many prophets . There are many Apostles. Jesus is chief corner stone .

Ephesians 2:20 (KJV)
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Eph 4:11 — Eph 4:12 (KJV)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

There is only one Teacher - God Almighty Himself- Jeremiah 31 vs 34. Every other who claims to be Teacher to anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ is a liar and a deceiver- Matthew 23 vs 6-10. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 1:56pm On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
There is only one Teacher - God Almighty Himself- Jeremiah 31 vs 34. Every other who claims to be Teacher to anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ is a liar and a deceiver- Matthew 23 vs 6-10. undecided

How does God teach his people.
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 2:36pm On Jun 16, 2021
petra1:

How does God teach his people.
The same way He was able to teach even Abel, Cain, Noah, Enoch, Job, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses etc. of Himself since the beginning - that is the same way He reaches in to teach all those who will turn to Him of Himself. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 3:23pm On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The same way He was able to teach even Abel, Cain, Noah, Enoch, Job, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses etc. of Himself since the beginning - that is the same way He reaches in to teach all those who will turn to Him of Himself. undecided

All through the ages both Old and new testament God has always taught the people through Leaders and covenant Heads.

Nehemiah 8:7
7 Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.

Nehemiah 8:8 (KJV)
8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

Genesis 18:19 (KJV)
19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice andjudgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV)
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On Jun 16, 2021
petra1:

All through the ages both Old and new testament God has always taught the people through Leaders and covenant Heads.

Nehemiah 8:7
7 Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.

Nehemiah 8:8 (KJV)
8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

Genesis 18:19 (KJV)
19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice andjudgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV)
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1. In His Old Testament, God set men, beginning with Moses, as teachers of His Law - Deuteronomy 4 vs 7 - 10. God put the responsibility of teaching His Law on every man and woman in the Land, instructing them to teach to their children and grandchildren , and neighbors- Deuteronomy 6 vs 1 - 9 - and neighbors, also writing it on their doorposts for all to see declaring it sin even for one to withhold such information - Deuteronomy 11 vs 18 - 22

God also taught them in song - Deuteronomy 31 vs 19 - which they were to pass on to their children in His name - Deuteronomy 32 vs 44 - 47 - declaring that the teachings He has given them are their very lives. These commands are to be forever obeyed by those of the old Covenant Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 29 vs 29. undecided

2. In the New Covenant Law of Jesus Christ, however, God made the decision that He alone will teach everyone of Himself - Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34. He fired all His former Shepherds - Ezekiel 34 vs 9 - 16 - and installed Himself as all and all to all each one who will heed His call to believe in His New Law, Jesus Christ, His New Covenant - Matthew 23 vs 1 - 36. He declared also that only those who are taught belong to Him - John 6 vs 43 -45. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by ichuka(m): 7:19pm On Jun 16, 2021
There's nothing like Prophetic office.
Even the school of prophets initiated by Samuel resulted in breeding fasles prophets.
A prophetic ministry is personified,its not something you work in and later resigns or workout.its who you are.
Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 10:34pm On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. In His Old Testament, God set men, beginning with Moses, as teachers of His Law - Deuteronomy 4 vs 7 - 10. God put the responsibility of teaching His Law on every man and woman in the Land, instructing them to teach to their children and grandchildren , and neighbors- Deuteronomy 6 vs 1 - 9 - and neighbors, also writing it on their doorposts for all to see declaring it sin even for one to withhold such information - Deuteronomy 11 vs 18 - 22

God also taught them in song - Deuteronomy 31 vs 19 - which they were to pass on to their children in His name - Deuteronomy 32 vs 44 - 47 - declaring that the teachings He has given them are their very lives. These commands are to be forever obeyed by those of the old Covenant Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 29 vs 29. undecided

2. In the New Covenant Law of Jesus Christ, however, God made the decision that He alone will teach everyone of Himself - Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34. He fired all His former Shepherds - Ezekiel 34 vs 9 - 16 - and installed Himself as all and all to all each one who will heed His call to believe in His New Law, Jesus Christ, His New Covenant - Matthew 23 vs 1 - 36. He declared also that only those who are taught belong to Him - John 6 vs 43 -45. undecided

There is difference between The church and Restoration pf israel. The prophecies you quoted are futuristic . They have to do with the millenium . When Israel would be saved . Thats not the church .
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 10:44pm On Jun 16, 2021
petra1:

There is difference between The church and Restoration pf israel. The prophecies you quoted are futuristic . They have to do with the millenium . When Israel would be saved . Thats not the church .
1. Considering the time of Ezekiel and Jeremiah, was the coming of Jesus Christ not futuristic? undecided

2. Israel was saved by Jesus Christ - Luke 13 vs 6 - 9 - or are you assuming that the salvation for israel only comes after they are all dead and then raise back up from the dead for 1000 years when Jesus Christ returns or something , as it is kinda written of in the book of dream/visions called Revelations? undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by petra1(m): 2:35am On Jun 17, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. Considering the time of Ezekiel and Jeremiah, was the coming of Jesus Christ not futuristic? undecided

2. Israel was saved by Jesus Christ - Luke 13 vs 6 - 9 - or are you assuming that the salvation for israel only comes after they are all dead and then raise back up from the dead for 1000 years when Jesus Christ returns or something , as it is kinda written of in the book of dream/visions called Revelations? undecided

israel was not saved by Jesus . They rejected him.

Jn 1:11 — Jn 1:12 (KJV)
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


That was why God shifted attention to us the Gentile for the time being. isreal has not accepted Jesus as messiah.

Romans 11:25 (KJV)
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.



They will eventually accept the antichrist as Messiah. until he show his true colour . that is when their eyes will be open and they will start looking for the Messiah they once rejected . Thats when jesus and the raptured saints will come from heaven to save isreal. and isreal will officially acceot the messiah. The salavtion of isreal a national declaration .

Romans 11:26 (KJV)
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:


it is at this futuristuc salavtion of isreal that God said "They will all know him .
Re: Prophetic Office by Kobojunkie: 2:55am On Jun 17, 2021
petra1:

israel was not saved by Jesus . They rejected him.

Jn 1:11 — Jn 1:12 (KJV)
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


That was why God shifted attention to us the Gentile for the time being. isreal has not accepted Jesus as messiah.

Romans 11:25 (KJV)
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.



They will eventually accept the antichrist as Messiah. until he show his true colour . that is when their eyes will be open and they will start looking for the Messiah they once rejected . Thats when jesus and the raptured saints will come from heaven to save isreal. and isreal will officially acceot the messiah. The salavtion of isreal a national declaration .

Romans 11:26 (KJV)
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:


it is at this futuristuc salavtion of isreal that God said "They will all know him .
1. The same Jesus Christ told you that He did not come for the righteous in Israel -those already saved by the Old Law, but for the lost sheep of Israel- Matthew 15 vs 21 - 24. It is for these He came and died for, that they may have a way through Him to God the Father... of which His disciples where among, the very same who will, be raised to reign over Israel with Jesus Christ when He returns - Matthew 19 vs 27 - 30 undecided

2. Jesus Christ was sent by God to save the Jews, for by His death, those sinners of the Old Covenant, were able to transition from the Old yoke and burden to the lighter yoke and easy burden of the New Covenant Law, this while holding on to the Old Covenant promise as well as grabbing onto the New Covenant promises. So, yes, Jesus did save all the Old Covenant sinners who God gave to Him, who would have otherwise perished.
As for the gentile nations, His resurrection is key in ushering us into the New agreement , and this as God had promised. undecided

3. God is a Faithful God and what that means is that He always holds up His end of the bargain, even if man fails. The Covenant God made made was not just with the people or Israel, but with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as well, His faithful servants, ensuring that the Covenant would never be broken. So, God could never abandoned His promise to His servant Israel, nor the people of Israel. The very idea that God did that is born out of ignorance of who God is, and what the Covenant is and means as far as Israel is concerned.undecided

God will never shift His attention off of those He has made a promise to, especially not His servants who served Him till the end - Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - even if long dead. Long after their deaths, the Covenant God made with and to them He, God, keeps, this no matter what men do or fail to do. undecided
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 5:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
Dis Msg Is Not Meant 4 Everyone. Those Who It's Meant 4 Will Understand Dis Msg.
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 11:28am On Aug 07, 2021
Happy new month.
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 8:56pm On Sep 12, 2021
SpiritLifeNG, read this.
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 1:03pm On Feb 03, 2022
Truvelisback:
SpiritLifeNG, read this.
SpiritLifeNG.
Re: Prophetic Office by SpiritLifeNG: 1:39pm On Feb 03, 2022
Truvelisback:
SpiritLifeNG.

Thanks brother... reading now
Re: Prophetic Office by SpiritLifeNG: 3:24pm On Feb 03, 2022
Truvelisback:
SpiritLifeNG, read this.

It's a powerful piece of truth brother.
Speaks of the cross and death to self will as a path to the kingdom and enthronement in the ordained reality of God for man.

I tried to Dm you but the email for this Spiritlife Account isnt available..
Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 4:06pm On Feb 03, 2022
SpiritLifeNG:


It's a powerful piece of truth brother.
Speaks of the cross and death to self will as a path to the kingdom and enthronement in the ordained reality of God for man.

I tried to Dm you but the email for this Spiritlife Account isnt available..
I have seen ur Dm. The Cross and death symbolizes the Suffering/death every Prophet must pass tru. God is going to deal with anything(character or behaviour) that would prevent u from being a vessel unto honour. Is it pride, is it anger, is it fear of men, just name them. The experience isn't funny at all. It is HELL ON EARTH, SIMILAR TO JOB EXPERIENCE. So, pity any guy who has this Prophetic call. We may come out smiling, encouraging or cheering others up or giving people prophetic words but deep inside us, we are in agony, suffering and in pains.

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Re: Prophetic Office by Truvelisback(m): 11:50am On Oct 09, 2022

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