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Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:35pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
perezeghi:John 6:63 (KJV) It's is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. The Words of Jesus are the Words of the Spirit which gives eternal life, so forget about trying to edify people, just do your part and teach people His Words as He commanded us to do and It would take care of the rest. You can check my dp to see the difference it could make. As for Matthew 19:21, you would see that it wasn't about having eternal life but being perfect, but it appears you can't comprehend the difference. That was the answer to the man's second question, not the first. The first was about having eternal life and it had already been answered, and according to Jesus, it was to keep God's Word which is the works of righteousness! |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Tochj(m): 1:10pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
His death on the cross would have been nothing if works is required for salvation. Pharisees and Sadducees are doing the work like kilode. But they're not the requirements His righteousness is the only requirement for salvation. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Kobojunkie: 1:43pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
perezeghi:1. Even in Jesus Christ, your faith points to the works done iin continual submission to and obedience of the teaching and commandments of Jesus Christ - without this Faith, it is impossible to please God as God is only honored by our obedience of His commandments to us. So yes, I was saved and born-again by faith in Jesus Christ which requires careful trust and obedience of the very teachings and commandments regarding this as given in His Truth which is the very Word out of God's own mouth. 2. In John 6 vs 55 -58, Jesus Christ tells you in plan speak that His body and His blood are real food, not abstract things. Why else do you think some of his followers abandoned Him after hearing this teaching from Him - John 6 vs 66 ? 3. In John 3 vs 5 - 8, Jesus Christ explained to you what it means to be born again - to be born of water and to be born of Spirit. And we know that John the Baptist, from Matthew 3 vs 7 -11, explained clearly to us what it means to be born of water. And in Ezekiel 36 vs 25 -26, God Himself explained a bit of what takes place when a person is born of water and born of Spirit- He gets a new spirit installed inside of him by God, the Holy Spirit comes after one is born again and this , according to Jesus Christ, if one continues in submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- John 14 vs 20 -21. 4. According to Jesus Christ, the gates are doors into His Kingdom - Matthew 7 vs 13-14. As you can see, rather than dabble in man's doctrines and traditions as you seem filled with, I like to deal and trust in what God says of all these things- the Word out of God's own mouth - His Truth. And this explains why I didn't hit born-again status over-night but over time as it dawned on me that this was meant as a process, by God Himself, and not some magical transformation of sorts that happens after you say a prayer and wish some happy thoughts or two. 5. The same new path Jesus Christ spoke to Nicodemus of is the very same which applies to each and everyone who desires to enter into the Kingdom of God. And throughout the conversation, Jesus Christ never once mentions the Spirit of God, not even as a guide in entering into the Kingdom, and how can - John 3 vs 1 - 21. After all, one must be made holy before the Spirit of God can inhabit such a one, and those who enter the Kingdom of God are not made perfect/holy. |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 1:44pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
Gullah:License to sin. Ok |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Kobojunkie: 1:50pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
Tochj:Actually, His death on the cross carries with it a meaning different from what you were taught in the many doctrines and traditions of men you have been fed with. The Pharisees and Sadducees were instead busy doing their own works, according to their own doctrines and traditions, not God's commandments to them - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14. Salvation you recieve in Jesus Christ is from Death, not from sin. Righteousness comes afterwards and this from your continual submission and obedience of the teaxhings and commandments of Jesus Christ- John 15 vs 7 - 11. |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by perezeghi: 4:13pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
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Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Kobojunkie: 4:17pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
perezeghi:1. Faith is not derived either. It is a pointer to ones works... and from the very beginning, all those who were accorded faith in God,have all had one major thing in common, and that is that they all did works in submission to and obedience of God's direct commandments to them - Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Job, David,etc., Not a single person was said to have pleaded God in disobedience. I can give you an absolute verse as I did not come by this knowledge through the reading of a verse or two. Nope, I did as Jesus Christ said to do- I used basic comprehension skills I have in human language and book, the dots were connected for me by Him. 2. Well, according to Jesus Christ, only those who use the little understanding they have will be given more. Those who refuse to do as Jesus Christ commands will have even the little understanding they have taken away from them....Parable of the 10 talents - Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30. So clearly, the major problem is not a lack of understanding but a refusal to obey the commandments of Jesus Christ even in this, a rejection of His teachings and commandments. 3. I am afraid I am not the one who does not understand what is clearly written in scripture in this. Again, In John 3 vs 5 - 8, Jesus Christ explained to you what it means to be born again - to be born of water and to be born of Spirit. And we know that John the Baptist, from Matthew 3 vs 7 -11, explained clearly to us what it means to be born of water. And in Ezekiel 36 vs 25 -26, God Himself explained a bit of what takes place when a person is born of water and born of Spirit- He gets a new spirit installed inside of him by God, the Holy Spirit comes after one is born again and this , according to Jesus Christ, if one continues in submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- John 14 vs 20 -21. 4. God's Law isn't about whatever works for one. The same Law applies to each and everyone who will choose Jesus Christ. There is no pass given to those who think they can cherry-pick where the Law is concerned...you either accept All of it or you are better off taking none of it. Those who enter into the Kingdom of God through the broad gate are those who cherry-pick as even though they believe in Jesus Christ, they condemned for refusal to obey God's every comandments/rules. Only the few who carefully obey the teachings & commands of Jesus Christ gain entrance through the narrow gate which leads to reward. Yes, those who are damned, this including the demons and devils, all believe in God, and Jesus Christ . |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:43pm On Jun 22, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:44am On Jun 25, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:24am On Jun 28, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:02pm On Jun 28, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:46pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:09am On Jul 01, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:03am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:38pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Bodydiialect57: 10:03pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Gullah:Well said. |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Bodydiialect57: 10:06pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Can you explain the bolded, please? |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by Kobojunkie: 10:14pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Bodydiialect57:There are particular commandments that Jesus Christ marked as necessary in order to become worthy of Him. Those are the commandments I refer to. For example
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Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:26am On Jul 27, 2021 |
Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:48am On Aug 14, 2021 |
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