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Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by coscj(m): 10:09am On Jun 07
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TB the show man. Even his junior pastor Chris has not spoken, wetin come be CAN own? They probably don't trust his stunts.

Hmm. You want to add another twist to the story. Chris is tb joshua's mentee. And loyal son
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Blackman101: 11:08am On Jun 07
Only God know his true pastor/GO/ prophet.

I have my reservation sha.

let them burial the man first
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Jokerman(m): 11:39am On Jun 07
Who cares about them?? If Jesus accepts him into his kingdom, who cares about their condolences?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Babinski: 11:48am On Jun 07
Luckydubby7:
He disassociated himself from every of those group.

He did not dissociate himself but was rejected and denied membership by PFN! We need to get our facts right and not misinform the public. PFN Ministers do not regard T.B. Joshua as operating a Christian Ministry. One of the simplest reasons is that he is not born again. He claims being born again from the womb which is clearly contrary to Christian teachings on salvation.

In fact PFN warns its members seriously about associating with T. B. Joshua. So it is difficult to find any PFN member commiserating with his family or congregation on his death.

https://www.nairaland.com/463324/pfn-makes-it-clear-member

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Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by AeroplaneApple: 12:06pm On Jun 07
FalseProphet1:

Not really, I believe they collectively choose not to get involved.

They questioned his miracles TB JOSHUA was not a member of Christian Association of Nigeria.
The most important thing in life is legacy, how you will be remembered when you ar gone.

Joshua had done his part and gone back home. Death is inevitable weather people show condolences or not
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jun 07
FalseProphet1:

Even at that, he's a human being, the could have at least pay tribute to the bereaved family. That's what Christianity is all about.

There is no humanity with the law. If u no belong to a group, you no belong.

Some of you are too naive
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Jun 07
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
But what do you as in you think about him since he was globally known for performing great signs? undecided

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TB the show man. Even his junior pastor Chris has not spoken, wetin come be CAN own? They probably don't trust his stunts.
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:44pm On Jun 07
I strongly believe his death will open the eyes of many Churchgoers to the fact that these guys are not worshipers of the same God!

Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Abimbolafavour(f): 2:16pm On Jun 07
FalseProphet1:
Ok, I'm creating this topic because not too long ago daddy Adeboye lost his son, and we saw CAN, an array of top Pentecostal GO's PFN, and other top Christian bodies paying tribute to him.

TB Joshua died yesterday and up till now apart from the regular tribute on social media and prominent Nigerians, no Christian body has openly sent their condolence message to the family.

Wasn't TB Joshua accept into the Christian fold...I know that some people might have their differences with him, but not withstanding, he deserves that right from Christian bodies in Nigeria.

And for the records, I'm not a member of SCOAN.

Cc. Seun
Mynd44
mukina2
dominique
lalasticlala
Honestly my heart is heavy ... am sad over death of prophet T.B Joshua , am still in shock , I love u papa ... RIP my mentor .
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 2:18pm On Jun 07
coscj:


Hmm. You want to add another twist to the story. Chris is tb joshua's mentee. And loyal son

Ahhhh, me i no talk that one ohhhh. Make i dey go my way jejely.
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 2:22pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
But what do you as in you think about him since he was globally known for performing great signs? undecided


Great signs indeed. Anybody can perform great signs, ask Elon Musk. i have always said it and will say it again, TB was a show man. By their fruits, you know them. Recommend one true christian fruit from TB, i am yet to meet one for decades.
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:38pm On Jun 07
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Great signs indeed. Anybody can perform great signs, ask Elon Musk. i have always said it and will say it again, TB was a show man. By their fruits, you know them. Recommend one true christian fruit from TB, i am yet to meet one for decades.

JWs live in Ikotun Egbe (Lagos) where this man built his church and people living around that place often testify to his kind heartedness, philanthropical gesture and generosity.
In fact my brothers and sisters living around his territory often tell us how people there will go inside their rooms and bring out gift items distributed by TB Joshua, food items, relief materials and other things so they often decline listening to our preaching saying "we have a man of God in this place, go and preach elsewhere"
So please tell me what other fruit do you know of that is missing in TB Joshua? undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 2:48pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:


JWs live in Ikotun Egbe (Lagos) where this man built his church and people living around that place often testify to his kind heartedness, philanthropical gesture and generosity.
In fact my brothers and sisters living around his territory often tell us how people there will go inside their rooms and bring out gift items distributed by TB Joshua, food items, relief materials and other things so they often decline listening to our preaching saying "we have a man of God in this place, go and preach elsewhere"
So please tell me what other fruit do you know of that is missing in TB Joshua? undecided

By fruits, i obviously mean persons, disciples, christians. Stop insulting christianity with your local perspective. Go to the middle east and see philanthropy in billions of dollars, or at least you must have heard of charities like the Bill and Melinda foundation. If those are the fruits, are these people also true christians?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Jun 07
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By fruits, i obviously mean persons, disciples, christians. Stop insulting christianity with your local perspective. Go to the middle east and see philanthropy in billions of dollars, or at least you must have heard of charities like the Bill and Melinda foundation. If those are the fruits, are these people also true christians?

Oh! That's what you meant by FRUITS!

So where are those FRUITS from others?
Please don't tell me it's some businessmen claiming (pastors) who are simply doing their own personal business o! undecided
FRUITS is what everyone around you both insider and outsider can eat and derive satisfaction not some selfish business ventures that's not benefitting anybody! undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 3:05pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:


Oh! That's what you meant by FRUITS!

So where are those FRUITS from others?
Please don't tell me it's some businessmen claiming (pastors) who are simply doing their own personal business o! undecided
FRUITS is what everyone around you both insider and outsider can eat and derive satisfaction not some selfish business ventures that's not benefitting anybody! undecided


Who are the others, Jwickedness? Stop insulting christianity with your local perspective. Go to the middle east and see philanthropy in billions of dollars, or at least you must have heard of charities like the Bill and Melinda foundation. If those are the fruits, are these people also true christians?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On Jun 07
Why can't you just answer the question straight forward without being biased?

Please don't let me conclude that you have nothing to say against this man than what the daddy GOs and their cohorts infuse in your head. undecided

Please say something reasonable!

Convince me that you know what you're saying against TB Joshua! undecided

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Who are the others, Jwickedness? Stop insulting christianity with your local perspective. Go to the middle east and see philanthropy in billions of dollars, or at least you must have heard of charities like the Bill and Melinda foundation. If those are the fruits, are these people also true christians?

Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 3:38pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:
Why can't you just answer the question straight forward without being biased?

Please don't let me conclude that you have nothing to say against this man than what the daddy GOs and their cohorts infuse in your head. undecided

Please say something reasonable!

Convince me that you know what you're saying against TB Joshua! undecided


You asked me what i think about him, and i told you clear and straightforward that he is a show man with no fruits. i graciously explained what fruits are as written in 1 corinthians 13 and and Matthew 7v20. Would you be his disciple?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51pm On Jun 07
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You asked me what i think about him, and i told you clear and straightforward that he is a show man with no fruits. i graciously explained what fruits are as written in 1 corinthians 13 and and Matthew 7v20. Would you be his disciple?

1Corinthians 13

1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed,,, the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself,, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.,
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly;, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.



Matthew 7:20

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Please where in this verses can you point out that says anything wrong with TB Joshua's ministry? undecided

For your information, his saying is

We are sons and daughters of love, LET LOVE LEAD!

So what exactly do you mean by that statement "he is a show man with no fruits"
Because that's what led to the question what fruits has others produced so far that supercedes TB Joshua's ministry?

Please choose your words wisely now! Matthew 7:1-4 smiley

Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 3:52pm On Jun 07
ThothHermes:
It's called discernment.
Really? undecided
The very same are known to cuddle up to politicians and businessmen but they discern it unwise to associate with one who, from where I sit, is no different from them? undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 3:54pm On Jun 07
soulpeppersoup:
There is no humanity with the law. If u no belong to a group, you no belong.

Some of you are too naive
So this isn't about God but about denominations/factions? undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 3:57pm On Jun 07
Blackman101:
Only God know his true pastor/GO/ prophet.

I have my reservation sha.

let them burial the man first
That is not true! undecided
Anyone who is a follower or Jesus Christ is easily able to spot a false prophet or a false Teacher from over a mile away. And this because Jesus Christ did a thorough job of sensitizing those who belong to Him against those of the false prophets and teachers out there. undecided

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Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 4:00pm On Jun 07
Jokerman:
Who cares about them?? If Jesus accepts him into his kingdom, who cares about their condolences?
Jesus Christ made it clear that false teachers and prophets will not have a place in His Kingdom. If you do not know this, say so, rather than pretend Jesus Christ somehow left this up in the air- Matthew 23 undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by ThothHermes: 4:07pm On Jun 07
Kobojunkie:
Really? undecided
The very same are known to cuddle up to politicians and businessmen but they discern it unwise to associate with one who, from where I sit, is no different from them? undecided
undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by FalseProphet1(m): 5:37pm On Jun 07
agadam:
wait @FalseProphet1 is that you
No it's not me. I'm only on Twitter not Facebook.
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On Jun 07
ThothHermes:
undecided
Oh,is you mean it is truly discernment when they choose to diss one of their kind even if at the same time they continue to cuddle up to other equally questionable characters? undecided
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by agadam(m): 6:07pm On Jun 07
FalseProphet1:

No it's not me. I'm only on Twitter not Facebook.

is okay cool
Drop your handle let's follow you grin
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 11:21pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:


1Corinthians 13

1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed,,, the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself,, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.,
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly;, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.



Matthew 7:20

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Please where in this verses can you point out that says anything wrong with TB Joshua's ministry? undecided

For your information, his saying is

We are sons and daughters of love, LET LOVE LEAD!

So what exactly do you mean by that statement "he is a show man with no fruits"
Because that's what led to the question what fruits has others produced so far that supercedes TB Joshua's ministry?

Please choose your words wisely now! Matthew 7:1-4 smiley

Happy to see you actually open the Bible and quote, i don't think i remember you ever doing that. Maybe it skipped sha, i think this covid is doing wonderful things in your life.
The whole of 1Corinth 13 is a testament against the ministry of TB. how you do not see it is a miracle, i guess you are spiritually blind though. His is all the external works without the real charity. You can only see with your physical eyes the externalities. We that have the spiritual eyes can see further, you believe you will see further in paradise, right. Pity, well good for you. There is not ONE fruit of his ministry that i have seen as a true christian. You have been unable to produce any too. All we have are mainly numerous that escape from his jokes and make videos and books about the deceit going on there. Who asked this question and when "what fruits has others produced so far that supercedes TB Joshua's ministry?" Grow up and grow wise, those that love silly comparisons are not wise, you must have read that before, right?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07am On Jun 08
I know you don't have anything to say against TB Joshua's ministry, you're only carried away by the occultic ranking of those religionsts, that's why i purposely quoted the whole of 1Corinthians 13 and Matthew 7:20 for you, perhaps you can point to one difference between TB Joshua's ministry and the others.
So thanks for proving me right! smiley

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Happy to see you actually open the Bible and quote, i don't think i remember you ever doing that. Maybe it skipped sha, i think this covid is doing wonderful things in your life.
The whole of 1Corinth 13 is a testament against the ministry of TB. how you do not see it is a miracle, i guess you are spiritually blind though. His is all the external works without the real charity. You can only see with your physical eyes the externalities. We that have the spiritual eyes can see further, you believe you will see further in paradise, right. Pity, well good for you. There is not ONE fruit of his ministry that i have seen as a true christian. You have been unable to produce any too. All we have are mainly numerous that escape from his jokes and make videos and books about the deceit going on there. Who asked this question and when "what fruits has others produced so far that supercedes TB Joshua's ministry?" Grow up and grow wise, those that love silly comparisons are not wise, you must have read that before, right?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Image123(m): 2:42pm On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:
I know you don't have anything to say against TB Joshua's ministry, you're only carried away by the occultic ranking of those religionsts, that's why i purposely quoted the whole of 1Corinthians 13 and Matthew 7:20 for you, perhaps you can point to one difference between TB Joshua's ministry and the others.
So thanks for proving me right! smiley


As usual, you do not know what you want exactly but are as confused as the JW organisation. Do you want what is wrong with TB or you want a difference between TB and your denomination? When are you going to be free from these childish comparisons? My church is the best, my pastor is better than your pastor, yen yen yen, yada yada yada. Is that all they teach you in the sad hall?
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51pm On Jun 08
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As usual, you do not know what you want exactly but are as confused as the JW organisation. Do you want what is wrong with TB or you want a difference between TB and your denomination? When are you going to be free from these childish comparisons? My church is the best, my pastor is better than your pastor, yen yen yen, yada yada yada. Is that all they teach you in the sad hall?

The highlighted!

Stop condemning TB Joshua's ministry, none of your daddy GOs is better than him! grin
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jun 11
Kobojunkie:
So this isn't about God but about denominations/factions? undecided

How many people for your church who died and the next branch put them on news paper?

Some of una are too emotional to have sense.
Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Kobojunkie: 12:38pm On Jun 11
soulpeppersoup:

How many people for your church who died and the next branch put them on news paper?
Some of una are too emotional to have sense.
But what part of that is a about God and what He commands? Isn't that the purported focus on your churches...serving God? undecided

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