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Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by abopal: 9:47am On May 05, 2011
Musiwa,:

that is a sign of hate

north 6 universities
east get 2 universities
west get 1 universities


Please, if I may say, do you have to regionalize everything?
Ok going by your incorrect logic, 'North' as you called comprises of North-west, north-east, north-central.
So it is not the issue of North has 6.

I do not support the idea of distributing universities in every LGA as GEj's policy believes, I still know that the main Unis in Nigeria should be strengthened to be among the first 500 on earth!
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by ufumes(m): 10:05am On May 05, 2011
If its just 500 students per session, then the federal government should be planning to create 10 of such universities in each state. Well, its a good development.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by tollu: 10:15am On May 05, 2011
Kingabz:

Who ever postd dis trend shld plz help me tell our useless leaders that establishin 9 additional university wil nt solve our problems of unemployment. The graduate nigeria higher institution is even too much compare to d developmnt rate. I wz listenin 2 a programe on self empowerness where min. Of educt. Advise graduate to even sell beans cake(akara) as 2 be self employed. Imagine afta 4-5yrs studyin 4 does dat got it easily,payin huge tuition fees n labourious readin

Just imagine! All that self employment talk pisses me off no end. Though it's true, why does it have to be the way to go? Especially as there is no enabling environment.

This doesn't make a shred of sense. Why not develop the existing ones with so much infrastructure already? If you even have to build, Why not create 2 universities with an initial capacity of 2,250? We are talking about universities here not catering schools. Or perhaps I'm wrong, just maybe we are talking about vocational schools.
What kind of country is this anyway? Everybody does not have to go to university! Why the focus on tertiary education when the basic one is completely screwed up? Is this the kind of development Nigerians should look forward to for the next 4 years? Talk about a regressive country.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by fm7070: 10:24am On May 05, 2011
pls. I want to get something clear, are these 9 New Universities newly built or Old Poly & College of Educations were upgraded to Universities?? Please educate me,
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by spikedcylinder: 10:44am On May 05, 2011
**[size=20pt] Half-baked graduate issues we currently have in the country has little to nothing to do with school capacity[/size]. As it is, most all of our universities(government owned) are operating at less than half capacity -- have been for decades.

Jesu!!!! Did a self proclaimed well informed adult just say this? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by mustafar1: 10:58am On May 05, 2011
GEJ said in his only 'debate' that the schools would av a capacity of 500 per level by the time the schools get up to 400/500 level. Why u guys are crying wollf now is beyond me. He has helped ease the strain on current schools, abi no be as una GEJ supporters for NL talk am be that.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by kholis(m): 11:23am On May 05, 2011
In the first instance, the solution to our educational woes does not lie on duplication of universities but to sustain on the numerous existing ones in terms of adequate infrastructural update, quality personnel based on proficiency and integrity, efficient database of students coupled with graduation plan etc.

Being what they are and will always be, unless by God's intervention, PDP uses such mouth-watering contracts to settle one another. You guys will marvel if you know the group of thieves this contracts were given. In the same vein, an unnecessary contract of #69b for a few kilometer runway of Nnamdi Azikiwe int'l airport was recently awarded by PDP govt. As if they do not know what Nigerians really need.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 11:29am On May 05, 2011
A country of 150 million people, with average of 200,000 writing JAMB each year, and a "President" established 6 new Universities, for in take of maximum of just 500 each at maximum capacity. Is Jonathan crazy ? So 3000 will enroll into the 6 six new universities and the rest are flushed into the old Universities. We need to impeach this president and find return this country to colonial rule if there is no qualified Nigerian to run the affairs of this country.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 11:33am On May 05, 2011
A country of 150 million people, with average of 200,000 writing JAMB each year, and a "President" established 6 new Universities, for in take of maximum of just 500 each at maximum capacity. Is Jonathan crazy ? So 3000 will enroll into the 6 six new universities and the rest are flushed into the old Universities. We need to impeach this president and  return this country to colonial rule if there is no qualified Nigerian to run the affairs of this country.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 12:07pm On May 05, 2011
You people voted the dude in, knowing fully well that he was not capable. Stop complaining and analyzing trash and prepare for another four years of mismanagement and misguided policies. Hehehehehe grin grin grin grin grin grin angry
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by member479760: 12:20pm On May 05, 2011
we voted for him in order to see the end of the qouta system professor. he is one of those dumb prof we have in this country. hahahehe yeye dey smell!
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 12:29pm On May 05, 2011
nakedall:

we voted for him in order to see the end of the qouta system professor. he is one of those dumb prof we have in this country. hahahehe yeye dey smell!
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Soundmind(m): 2:21pm On May 05, 2011
In my opinion, the limit of 500 students is a personal opinion of the minister. I don't think it is feasible in Nigeria now. We have more than 500000 students seeking for admission every year and less then 1/4 gets admission.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by ladej(m): 2:40pm On May 05, 2011
spikedcylinder:

Jesu!!!! Did a self proclaimed well informed adult just say this? shocked shocked shocked shocked
indeed a self proclaimed well informed adult did. grin
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Reference(m): 3:35pm On May 05, 2011
And I sincerely hope at least one of these institutions will be dedicated to issues of population control and mass literacy because I think that's what we need as well. The rate of student growth is just unsustainable even if we spend 70 to 90% of our budget on this matter. I'm always an advocate of the bottom line approach whether in economic, politics or education as we have here. I think the prosperity of this country lies in basic education to the most disadvantaged as much as the top tier. It doesn't take that many super educated people to turn nations around but when half cannot read and write then you have a flood of all manner of social issues like we've witnessed post election and the population charge we see.

The truth is a good number of graduates are first generational i.e. probably the first in tne family tree to attain that level. That resounding gap is probably why we have many problems today. You're either a graduate or illiterate. And that's why when the system fails the quality of graduates fail. Our education resource wise is too top heavy.

What will it gain Nigeria to produce that many graduates only for the majority to depart our shores or slide sideways in employment. Then by reason of education all the important decisions are taken by those who have no education whatsoever - the voters.

Thats why I think if the government can raise 500 ultra high quality grads and on account of funds spread the pie to the bottom line we will have a much better society and probably a less violent one. The education and literacy gap between the haves and have nots is just too large.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by lorkiy: 3:51pm On May 05, 2011
Well,i think d building of these varsities makes sense,though d admittn of only 500 is kindda too small,probably they wnt to admit few students and see if they r up to the task and then admit more as d yrz pass by, oh well, well dn Gej
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Kobojunkie: 4:42pm On May 05, 2011
kholis:

In the first instance, the solution to our educational woes does not lie on duplication of universities but to sustain on the numerous existing ones in terms of adequate infrastructural update, quality personnel based on proficiency and integrity, efficient database of students coupled with graduation plan etc.

Being what they are and will always be, unless by God's intervention, PDP uses such mouth-watering contracts to settle one another. You guys will marvel if you know the group of thieves this contracts were given. In the same vein, an unnecessary contract of #69b for a few kilometer runway of Nnamdi Azikiwe int'l airport was recently awarded by PDP govt. As if they do not know what Nigerians really need.


Thank you!! Many of our old schools were built with capacities of 20,000 upwards, but as result of low funding and decay, many are not even operating at half capacity today. I understand the need for new schools but if we are serious about helping the more than 200,000 applicants we have each year, 500 per year schools ain't gonna cut it. lol
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by robola: 6:22pm On May 05, 2011
It would be unwise after so much money put in to admit only 500 students per session. These new universities will do little in reducing the number of admission seekers
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Musiwa13: 6:48pm On May 05, 2011
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Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by YungDoc(m): 11:40pm On May 05, 2011
only 500? i seriously doubt it. they'd probably admit over 1500, or sumting
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by rejoice3: 5:00am On May 06, 2011
"She urged the vice- chancellors to ensure strict compliance with the Nigerian Universities Commission (NUC) guidelines on the carrying capacity of the universities set up as specialised institutions, saying, “we really want to have control so that we can have more effective teaching and quality graduates in these institutions."

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Absolute load of tosh! Why more Federal Universities are needed when the existing ones are under-funded, under-equipped and inadequately maintained is beyond me. I have reasons to believe that President Jonathan is looking for quick wins in all key sectors, but this isn't a clever move.
Specialised institutions? Really? You mean like Cambridge/Havard/Oxford? lol
One thing is certain: Nigerian leaders and decision makers will continue to amaze Nigerians, in a funny way!
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Kobojunkie: 12:29pm On May 06, 2011
Capacity of some of the major schools
Source http://www.black-collegian.com/issues/1997-10/bumpy.shtml

Ahmadu Bello University ~ 30,000
University of Benin ~ 21,000
University of Calabar ~ 17,000
University of Ibadan ~ 13,000
University of Ilorin ~ 10,000
University of Jos ~ 13,500
University of Lagos ~ 23,000
University of Nigeria, Nsukka ~ 18,000
Obafemi Awolowo University ~ 18,500
University of PH ~ 11,000



we would need to have on average 3 – 5 more universities per state at an average of 30,000 students each – that is after sometimes more than doubling the present size of many of the universities listed above!
http://www.dawodu.com/aluko6.htm
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Twoboys: 1:54pm On May 06, 2011
Besides the increase in capacities, the new universities were met to create a sense of equity with every state having at least a federal university. The challenge before us now is getting use to the new way of approaching development which places emphasis on specialised output that have clear bearing to the developmental needs of the society where such developemts are so intended. This approach may take us away from the usually huge structures (often difficult & costly to maintain) dat define our universities, with its cost impact on limited resources and overcrowding student populations (outside of effective monitoring and control). The results of which is the mass of unemployable graduates (self employment inclusive) who are so ill equipped to face the challenges of building a functional society. You will agree that even within a state the developemental needs of the different senatorial zones varies, with this model we can align our universities to these needs. Its a new beginning we just have to give it the chance to evolve, even though i have my own reservation about the 500 number.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 5:01pm On May 06, 2011
Please o!! IS YABATECH NOW A UNIVERSITY??

Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Reference(m): 6:04pm On May 06, 2011
!rejoice:

"She urged the vice- chancellors to ensure strict compliance with the Nigerian Universities Commission (NUC) guidelines on the carrying capacity of the universities set up as specialised institutions, saying, “we really want to have control so that we can have more effective teaching and quality graduates in these institutions."

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Absolute load of tosh! Why more Federal Universities are needed when the existing ones are under-funded, under-equipped and inadequately maintained is beyond me. I have reasons to believe that President Jonathan is looking for quick wins in all key sectors, but this isn't a clever move.
Specialised institutions? Really? You mean like Cambridge/Havard/Oxford? lol
One thing is certain: Nigerian leaders and decision makers will continue to amaze Nigerians, in a funny way!

Its a chicken and egg scenario here. We want quality and quantity at the same time. Something must give and I think we must all take responsibility to ensure quality first by a few institutions. In every nation there are but just a handful of the very top colleges. The others are mass market corporations. What the government should do in the case of education like every other sector of the economy is to broaden not reduce the tier system. It was a bad mistake to convert polytechnics to degree awarding institutions. The quality fell off from there. We who demand education and they who employ labour should be more reasonable. Government should be pro-active in ending employment discrimination and revert back to the multi-tier system of education. Not all feet are same size neither are all shoes. Why should every one have a college degree. When you consider the largest employers of labour and the largest sectors of productivity anywhere world-wide agriculture, mining, construction and industry the bulk of operators are well of on certificates not degrees. Ask the multi-nationals in control of manufacturing and construction to tender the qualifications of their expatriates and you will see what I'm saying yet they do very well.

Specialization and decentralization is the key to meeting the avalanche of education seekers. If we have a broad choice of banking from esusu, micro-finance, community, right through commercial banks up to the Zenith (no pun intended) and we have major and independent petroleum marketers all doing well, large and small construction companies why can't the top tier of education be broader than it currently is. This is where government should be focusing. For private patrons, captains of industries and the well to do in society investment in education becomes more attractive to them when they have the choice of scale and diversity. Dangote for example will find it a lot more attractive to invest in education that fits his line of business knowing the products will be accepted universally. If we think with 150 million and a weak economy government can do it alone then let every family continue to send six and seven children to free schools and expect Harvard or MIT quality. It simply won't happen. We and the government needs to rethink our approach to this education challenge.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by santanovva(m): 9:15pm On May 06, 2011
500 students in a university!!!May God bless Jonathan, Nigerians,welcome to goodluck grin grin
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by santanovva(m): 9:19pm On May 06, 2011
500 students in a university!!!May God bless Jonathan, Nigerians,welcome to goodluck grin grin grin
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Gbenge77(m): 9:28pm On May 06, 2011
why cant he upgrade the existing universities than estabish new ones.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Kobojunkie: 2:33am On May 08, 2011
Capacity of some of the major schools
Source http://www.black-collegian.com/issues/1997-10/bumpy.shtml

Ahmadu Bello University  ~ 30,000
University of Benin ~ 21,000
University of Calabar ~ 17,000
University of Ibadan ~ 13,0000
University of Ilorin  ~ 10,000
University of Jos ~ 13,500
University of Lagos ~ 23,000
University of Nigeria, Nsukka ~ 18,000
Obafemi Awolowo University  ~ 18,500
University of PH ~ 11,000



we would need to have on average 3 – 5 more universities per state at an average of 30,000 students each –  that is after  sometimes more than doubling the present size of many of the universities listed above!
http://www.dawodu.com/aluko6.htm


This was reported back in 2002 or so. Fast forward 9 years later, nothing of the sort still?
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by DonShark(m): 3:22pm On May 10, 2011
I believe the 500 students per session is for a start,if not,there is no need for establishing it,instead, let's expand and engage more lecturers for the existing ones.
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Nobody: 7:23pm On May 10, 2011
I'm surprised people are debating capacity instead of seeing where all 5 of 8 universities went to, this isn't unifying ppl at all. Many want unis in their LGAs too, This isn't equality at all,  Nigeria is spending too much on Northerners than those who can actually generate the fund,  Just shoot me please if this isn't biased,

When it's about census which affects budget and allocation, Jigawa, gombe, Taraba, Nasarawa and Katsina states all become part of the North,  What da hell? What da hell? this is cheating,

Kogi,, Ebonyi, Bayelsa, Ekiti, that's all other parts of Nigeria has while North as a political entity get 5!! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked,


Let this country shred into pieces if this is how it will be handled,
Re: Fg Pegs Carrying Capacity Of 9 New Varsities At 500 Students by Natasha2(f): 9:55pm On May 12, 2011
hmm cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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