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Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by FreeIgbos: 1:52pm On Jun 13, 2021
There is a popular saying that those who fail to learn from history are bound to fail over again. Nigeria as a nation has been unfortunate to have series of very dull and unintelligent rulers back to back. It is this crass lack of tact and critical planning that has largely left us in the doldrums. Now, the separatist movements, particularly IPOB, the group led by Nnamdi Kanu is exploiting this leadership vacuum to their own benefit. Any discernible observer will easily notice that Nnamdi Kanu has remained one step ahead of both the SE governors as well as Abuja in recent times.

The turning point in the struggle between IPOB and Abuja was the moment the separatists took advantage of SE governors' foot dragging to launch an armed group which is more or less a guerilla army which they camouflage as security outfit. So far, it has remained a mystery how IPOB was able to organize, train, arm and deploy such large number of ESN volunteers without the government and its agencies like DSS knowing about it. That mistake will forever haunt Abuja and here is why; once any separatist movement takes up arms, they never drop it until their mission is achieved!

Another grevious mistake the Federal government made was to alienate the Igbo masses, again the IPOB immediately took advantage of it and presented themselves like the messaih that is out to protect Igbos from annihilation. A wise government would have done everything to gain the confidence of Igbo masses and use them to pull the rug under the feet of IPOB but obviously, the obvious hate against Igbos didn't allow common sense to prevail. But it's too late now.

Now let's face facts, there is no government or external force that ever succeeds against a people that are determined and passionate about a cause. History has proven this assertion to be absolutely factual, and I will provide examples....

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by FreeIgbos: 1:54pm On Jun 13, 2021
1. USSR vs Afghan Masses
When USSR invaded this poor and desert nation, they expected to easily and quickly rout the Mujahideen backed by the Afghan masses. However, to their horror, the war dragged on for years even though they won several battles against the Afghans, they eventually lost the war and the then superpower had to withdraw their forces with their tale in-between their legs.

2. United States vs Vietcongs
Just like the mighty USSR, America was unarguably the world's most powerful nation when the Vietnam war started. Again, they expected a quick win but to their shock, the Vietcongs were determined and even though they lost several battles against the superpower, they continued to hit back at the Americans from all angles of the Vietnamese jungles and eventually, the Americans had to concede defeat and withdraw.

3. Ethiopia vs Eritrean People
Ethiopia used to be a powerful nation, at least by African standards. They were the only African nation that defeated a colonial power, the Italians. However, when the long suffering Eritreans through the EPLF began a movement to have their own nation, Mengistu, the Ethiopian president responded by sending tanks and infantry into the Eritrean towns and villages. They even attempted to use terror in subduing the Eritreans, sometimes locking them up in Mosques and setting it ablaze. However, the Eritreans were determined. Even though they had no arms, they were able to use guerilla means to seize arms from Ethiopian forces and in the long, defeated the much stronger Ethiopian forces who had to withdraw in shame.

There are several other instances that occurred in the not so distant past and all ended in victory for the people against invading forces. If Ojukwu had used guerilla means with the mass support he had, Nigeria too wouldn't have been able to defeat Biafra, even with all the support it enjoyed from Britain and Russia.

Back to the struggle with IPOB, Nigeria is no doubt at its lowest ebb in history. The morale of its soldiers is at an all time low and are bugged down with fights in many fronts. Trying to use force or terror to beat the separatists into submission will obviously not work because they're enjoying mass appeal among the people. How many can they kill to make them give up? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? Already, the Igbo elite and pressure groups are beginning to raise alarm of genocide. So how long can killing of civilians continue before Abuja is pressurized to give up?

If only the Nigerian government are wise and foresighted, they would have called IPOB and other separatists to a meeting to resolve issues holistically but they failed to do that on time, now the window is almost shut.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by esnbrutality: 2:12pm On Jun 13, 2021
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE "LOVE REASONABLE PEOPLE"...

BUT WE ARE ALSO "FANATICALLY STUBBORN" TO MISCREANTS AND OPPRESSIVE UNCIRCUMCISED TERRORISTS MASQUERADING AS LEADERS.

IGBO PEOPLE THE "EPI-CENTER OF GREATNESS"

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Ngorbungor(m): 2:21pm On Jun 13, 2021
FreeIgbos:
1. USSR vs Afghan Masses
When USSR invaded this poor and desert nation, they expected to easily and quickly rout the Mujahideen backed by the Afghan masses. However, to their horror, the war dragged on for years even though they won several battles against the Afghans, they eventually lost the war and the then superpower had to withdraw their forces with their tale in-between their legs.

2. United States vs Vietcongs
Just like the mighty USSR, America was unarguably the world's most powerful nation when the Vietnam war started. Again, they expected a quick win but to their shock, the Vietcongs were determined and even though they lost several battles against the superpower, they continued to hit back at the Americans from all angles of the Vietnamese jungles and eventually, the Americans had to concede defeat and withdraw.

3. Ethiopia vs Eritrean People
Ethiopia used to be a powerful nation, at least by African standards. They were the only African nation that defeated a colonial power, the Italians. However, when the long suffering Eritreans through the EPLF began a movement to have their own nation, Mengistu, the Ethiopian president responded by sending tanks and infantry into the Eritrean towns and villages. They even attempted to use terror in subduing the Eritreans, sometimes locking them up in Mosques and setting it ablaze. However, the Eritreans were determined. Even though they had no arms, they were able to use guerilla means to seize arms from Ethiopian forces and in the long, defeated the much stronger Ethiopian forces who had to withdraw in shame.

There are several other instances that occurred in the not so distant past and all ended in victory for the people against invading forces. If Ojukwu had used guerilla means with the mass support he had, Nigeria too wouldn't have been able to defeat Biafra, even with all the support it enjoyed from Britain and Russia.

Back to the struggle with IPOB, Nigeria is no doubt at its lowest ebb in history. The morale of its soldiers is at an all time low and are bugged down with fights in many fronts. Trying to use force or terror to beat the separatists into submission will obviously not work because they're enjoying mass appeal among the people. How many can they kill to make them give up? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? Already, the Igbo elite and pressure groups are beginning to raise alarm of genocide. So how long can killing of civilians continue before Abuja is pressurized to give up?

If only the Nigerian government are wise and foresighted, they would have called IPOB and other separatists to a meeting to resolve issues holistically but they failed to do that on time, now the window is almost shut.

Inasmuch as I don't want Nigeria to break, Abuja is making a very big mistake, for security reasons which I will not like to say some certain things on this platform, but let it be known that Ipob is building capacity and they are trying to lure Abuja into what will be the end of Nigeria. Let them use there head and not sending boots to solve problem.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Oharina(m): 2:49pm On Jun 13, 2021
One thing about the fulanis is that they don't learn from past mistakes and also learn from mistake super powers allover the world have made thinking they can suppress self determined people. Their cow dung and ceptic tank sniffing brain will always propel them to do things without reasoning

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by FreeIgbos: 2:49pm On Jun 13, 2021
Ngorbungor:


Inasmuch as I don't want Nigeria to break, Abuja is making a very big mistake, for security reasons which I will not like to say some certain things on this platform, but let it be known that Ipob is building capacity and they are trying to lure Abuja into what will be the end of Nigeria. Let them use there head and not sending boots to solve problem.

That vegetable in Abuja and the those in his kitchen cabinet are all brain dead. They allowed their hate for Igbos to becloud their sense of reasoning. They kept dishing out threats and hate speeches against Igbos with other oppressive acts targeted at us. All these combined to make even the ardent Igbo believer in Nigeria to lose faith.

Nnamdi Kanu knows them even more than they know themselves. He keeps dragging them out and roping them in while they continue to fall into his trap. Immediately Yorubas formed Amotekun and Abuja warned SE errand boys governors not to do same, Nnamdi Kanu immediately saw a golden opportunity and he didn't waste time to form ESN. Now he has the initiative, a standing army! Again, he has continued to show the world that he is not the aggressor but only trying to protect his people and their interests.

If they fail to deescalate tensions now and continue with what they're doing in the East, this will most likely transform into a guerilla war which will eventually end in breakup.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by 2020Experience(m): 2:50pm On Jun 13, 2021
Nigeria won’t end well.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by chatinent: 3:19pm On Jun 13, 2021
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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Ngorbungor(m): 3:34pm On Jun 13, 2021
FreeIgbos:


That vegetable in Abuja and the those in his kitchen cabinet are all brain dead. They allowed their hate for Igbos to becloud their sense of reasoning. They kept dishing out threats and hate speeches against Igbos with other oppressive acts targeted at us. All these combined to make even the ardent Igbo believer in Nigeria to lose faith.

Nnamdi Kanu knows them even more than they know themselves. He keeps dragging them out and roping them in while they continue to fall into his trap. Immediately Yorubas formed Amotekun and Abuja warned SE errand boys governors not to do same, Nnamdi Kanu immediately saw a golden opportunity and he didn't waste time to form ESN. Now he has the initiative, a standing army! Again, he has continued to show the world that he is not the aggressor but only trying to protect his people and their interests.

If they fail to deescalate tensions now and continue with what they're doing in the East, this will most likely transform into a guerilla war which will eventually end in breakup.


Let me shock you, ipob said they are producing their weapons locally write? But what we don't know is the kind of weapons they are building, and it will not come from my own mouth, make Abuja just thread with care because they are in for a surprise if they think they can over power ipod.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by FreeIgbos: 4:51pm On Jun 13, 2021
Ngorbungor:


Let me shock you, ipob said they are producing their weapons locally write? But what we don't know is the kind of weapons they are building, and it will not come from my own mouth, make Abuja just thread with care because they are in for a surprise if they think they can over power ipod.

This is serious...
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Igboid: 5:04pm On Jun 13, 2021
IPOB should de-escalate issues Biko.
I don't see any evidence that they are currently ready to take on Nigeria and win.

Nigeria is a failed shit hole country that is decayed from top to bottom and is bound to collapse any moment from now. We should not allow NIGERIA collapse on top our head again.

We should just secure our forests from Herdsmen and wait out Nigeria imminent collapse.
We should do more of what we did on June 12, by totally showing disdain and not participate in anything that promotes NIGERIA Unity.

We are not NIGERIANS, we are Biafrans and even Nigerians know that we are not one of them.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by ba7man(m): 5:05pm On Jun 13, 2021
Can people that smoke Igbo be classified as Igbo people

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jun 13, 2021
No need to say that they'll eventually drag Nigeria to guerilla war because that is what currently going on in the east

And believe you me i feel for NA this time around guerilla war is worst kind of war . If the unknown gun men attack in aba you go after then in aba they withraw and attack in anambra and with that same pettern keep changing cities now tell how can anyone win this kind of war it is late but never too late but the hatred for igbo won't allow them see beyond their nose... they'll keep lossing able soldier in the name of I'll threat them in language they'll understand

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 5:31pm On Jun 13, 2021
Ngorbungor:


Let me shock you, ipob said they are producing their weapons locally write? But what we don't know is the kind of weapons they are building, and it will not come from my own mouth, make Abuja just thread with care because they are in for a surprise if they think they can over power ipod.

See as Una dey give Una self hope. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I guarantee you this, all you think you know about IPOB is just fallacy. IPOB are doing what they know how to do best. They are only Chest beating. It's more like clout chasing. But in reality, they lack the tactics to fight a War. In less than two months now, the Nigerian Galant Soldiers have Killed several IPOB top Commanders. That shows they are bunch of amateurs who only come online to Chest beat. IPOB will continue to loose against our Galant Northern Soldiers and Police.

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 5:35pm On Jun 13, 2021
ba7man:
Can people that smoke Igbo be classified as Igbo people

Yes they are cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by joyandfaith: 5:38pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


See as Una dey give Una self hope. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I guarantee you this, all you think you know about IPOB is just fallacy. IPOB are doing what they know how to do best. They are only Chest beating. It's more like clout chasing. But in reality, they lack the tactics to fight a War. In less than two months now, the Nigerian Galant Soldiers have Killed several IPOB top Commanders. That shows they are bunch of amateurs who only come online to Chest beat. IPOB will continue to loose against our Galant Northern Soldiers and Police.

Just as bokoharam and iswap are loosing against Nigeria army?...

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 5:39pm On Jun 13, 2021
joyandfaith:


Just as bokoharam and iswap are loosing against Nigeria army?...

Yes na.
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by joyandfaith: 5:42pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


Yes na.

Very good
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by PoloG: 5:46pm On Jun 13, 2021
Igbo igbo igbo everyday on nairaland.. undecided
Una no dey tire you this fcvking noise makers.
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Pentagon007: 5:54pm On Jun 13, 2021
Igboid:
IPOB should de-escalate issues Biko.
I don't see any evidence that they are currently ready to take on Nigeria and win.

Nigeria is a failed shit hole country that is decayed from top to bottom and is bound to collapse any moment from now. We should not allow NIGERIA collapse on top our head again.

We should just secure our forests from Herdsmen and wait out Nigeria imminent collapse.
We should do more of what we did on June 12, by totally showing disdain and not participate in anything that promotes NIGERIA Unity.

We are not NIGERIANS, we are Biafrans and even Nigerians know that we are not one of them.

So we sit idly and wait? wait for how long 10..20..30 years?

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by 247Dior(m): 5:57pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


See as Una dey give Una self hope. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I guarantee you this, all you think you know about IPOB is just fallacy. IPOB are doing what they know how to do best. They are only Chest beating. It's more like clout chasing. But in reality, they lack the tactics to fight a War. In less than two months now, the Nigerian Galant Soldiers have Killed several IPOB top Commanders. That shows they are bunch of amateurs who only come online to Chest beat. IPOB will continue to loose against our Galant Northern Soldiers and Police.
just like you pointed out, they're amateurs but what do you expect? They're not upto 6 months in Creation and they're not doing badly, 6 soldiers killed yesterday in ohaofia, it's only a matter of time before you urchins get served

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by ba7man(m): 5:58pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


Yes they are cheesy grin grin cheesy grin
That means Igboland is land where igbo is grown. grin

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by mrvitalis(m): 6:05pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


See as Una dey give Una self hope. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I guarantee you this, all you think you know about IPOB is just fallacy. IPOB are doing what they know how to do best. They are only Chest beating. It's more like clout chasing. But in reality, they lack the tactics to fight a War. In less than two months now, the Nigerian Galant Soldiers have Killed several IPOB top Commanders. That shows they are bunch of amateurs who only come online to Chest beat. IPOB will continue to loose against our Galant Northern Soldiers and Police.
Swear 2 years ago if someone told u ipob would train and arm over 10,000 youths as ESN without Nigeria security knowing would u have believed. ..kanu talks too much but all his plenty words he gives little or nothing just rants ...u don't know the capability of ipob ...no body knows

But weapons igbos can make are not something Nigeria want to face

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 6:10pm On Jun 13, 2021
ba7man:
That means Igboland is land where igbo is grown. grin

You are correct. That's why them no Dey Joke with drugs worldwide. grin grin grin grin

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Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 6:14pm On Jun 13, 2021
247Dior:
just like you pointed out, they're amateurs but what do you expect? They're not upto 6 months in Creation and they're not doing badly, 6 soldiers killed yesterday in ohaofia, it's only a matter of time before you urchins get served

Do you know how many IPOB, ESN, Unknown Gunmen and their SYMPATHISERS were killed that yesterday? If you know, you won't celebrate IPOB. You will rather pitty the Innocent people in the EAST.

God bless our Galant Soldiers and Police.

Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by AchalugoNwa(f): 6:20pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


You are correct. That's why them no Dey Joke with drugs worldwide. grin grin grin grin
Mynd44 lalasticlala Seun
Rule 2
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Jamesbally: 6:23pm On Jun 13, 2021
mrvitalis:

Swear 2 years ago if someone told u ipob would train and arm over 10,000 youths as ESN without Nigeria security knowing would u have believed. ..kanu talks too much but all his plenty words he gives little or nothing just rants ...u don't know the capability of ipob ...no body knows

But weapons igbos can make are not something Nigeria want to face

Trash. IPOB are nothing. Our Galant Soldiers are only careful not to affect the innocent people in the EAST. But when you hear of the death of 5 Soldiers, I guarantee you that, more than 50 IPOB and innocent People must've been killed you the Army.

If this fight continue till this time next year, the People in the EAST will kick against IPOB. Cause the implications of this fight will affect them most and the East will become the most unsafe Region.
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by mrvitalis(m): 6:30pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


Trash. IPOB are nothing. Our Galant Soldiers are only careful not to affect the innocent people in the EAST. But when you hear of the death of 5 Soldiers, I guarantee you that, more than 50 IPOB and innocent People must've been killed you the Army.

If this fight continue till this time next year, the People in the EAST will kick against IPOB. Cause the implications of this fight will affect them most and the East will become the most unsafe Region.
Are u from igbo ? Have u ever lived in the east ?
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Ngorbungor(m): 6:32pm On Jun 13, 2021
Jamesbally:


See as Una dey give Una self hope. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I guarantee you this, all you think you know about IPOB is just fallacy. IPOB are doing what they know how to do best. They are only Chest beating. It's more like clout chasing. But in reality, they lack the tactics to fight a War. In less than two months now, the Nigerian Galant Soldiers have Killed several IPOB top Commanders. That shows they are bunch of amateurs who only come online to Chest beat. IPOB will continue to loose against our Galant Northern Soldiers and Police.

Like I said earlier, I support Nigeria been restructured not break up,. for your information am better informed than you, those guys are not what you think they are.
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jun 13, 2021
Two esn commanders killed within two months, ebubeugwu commmander resigned less than a month into it's creation, 400+ plus extrajudicial deaths. But OP is making comparisons with Vietcong and eritreans.

Group narcissism and delusions.
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jun 13, 2021
FreeIgbos:
1. USSR vs Afghan Masses
When USSR invaded this poor and desert nation, they expected to easily and quickly rout the Mujahideen backed by the Afghan masses. However, to their horror, the war dragged on for years even though they won several battles against the Afghans, they eventually lost the war and the then superpower had to withdraw their forces with their tale in-between their legs.

2. United States vs Vietcongs
Just like the mighty USSR, America was unarguably the world's most powerful nation when the Vietnam war started. Again, they expected a quick win but to their shock, the Vietcongs were determined and even though they lost several battles against the superpower, they continued to hit back at the Americans from all angles of the Vietnamese jungles and eventually, the Americans had to concede defeat and withdraw.

3. Ethiopia vs Eritrean People
Ethiopia used to be a powerful nation, at least by African standards. They were the only African nation that defeated a colonial power, the Italians. However, when the long suffering Eritreans through the EPLF began a movement to have their own nation, Mengistu, the Ethiopian president responded by sending tanks and infantry into the Eritrean towns and villages. They even attempted to use terror in subduing the Eritreans, sometimes locking them up in Mosques and setting it ablaze. However, the Eritreans were determined. Even though they had no arms, they were able to use guerilla means to seize arms from Ethiopian forces and in the long, defeated the much stronger Ethiopian forces who had to withdraw in shame.

There are several other instances that occurred in the not so distant past and all ended in victory for the people against invading forces. If Ojukwu had used guerilla means with the mass support he had, Nigeria too wouldn't have been able to defeat Biafra, even with all the support it enjoyed from Britain and Russia.

Back to the struggle with IPOB, Nigeria is no doubt at its lowest ebb in history. The morale of its soldiers is at an all time low and are bugged down with fights in many fronts. Trying to use force or terror to beat the separatists into submission will obviously not work because they're enjoying mass appeal among the people. How many can they kill to make them give up? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? Already, the Igbo elite and pressure groups are beginning to raise alarm of genocide. So how long can killing of civilians continue before Abuja is pressurized to give up?

If only the Nigerian government are wise and foresighted, they would have called IPOB and other separatists to a meeting to resolve issues holistically but they failed to do that on time, now the window is almost shut.

Your first two examples don't count, as the US were giving material and technical support to the Mujjahideen in the Afghan war, while the Soviets were doing the same for the Vietcongs against the US in the Vietnam war. Each group needed the backing of a superpower (who used them as proxies to fight each other).
Re: Revealed!!! Factors Why Nigeria Would Never Subdue Igbos With Force by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jun 13, 2021
inderhappy:
No need to say that they'll eventually drag Nigeria to guerilla war because that is what currently going on in the east

And believe you me i feel for NA this time around guerilla war is worst kind of war . If the unknown gun men attack in aba you go after then in aba they withraw and attack in anambra and with that same pettern keep changing cities now tell how can anyone win this kind of war it is late but never too late but the hatred for igbo won't allow them see beyond their nose... they'll keep lossing able soldier in the name of I'll threat them in language they'll understand

Guerrilla war is hard for any military to combat, but there is a difference here: the military that have fought against guerillas in most other climes follow the rules of engagement when it comes to combat. They follow international laid down procedures on prosecuting a war. The braindead Nigerian army is not exactly known for the use of their heads. I hope they won't wipe out the civilian population in the east before the crisis ends.

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