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Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Enemyofpeace: 7:27am On Jun 17, 2021
this guy is finished
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Frankiss44(m): 7:41am On Jun 17, 2021
true2god:
Stop this nonsense bro. The guy is never guilty of any crime and FYI, it were in western countries, the so-called princess will be in jail and not baba Ijesha.

Did he rape the girl? No.

SMH
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by BenAndrew: 8:04am On Jun 17, 2021
grin grin
timberprides:
that man na stack illiterate,just heard some tatata english.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by chessguru(m): 9:00am On Jun 17, 2021
BenAndrew:
Even with glaring evidence and him pleading the other time for forgiveness, he’s still pleading not guilty? Na wa o.
How can God forgive u when u won’t even admit to your wrongs?
what he said when he was ambushed in that video was under duress , he was beaten up and forced to say things . use your head . the girl , the alleged victim denied all that .
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 1:58pm On Jun 18, 2021
kingthreat:


He did not have sex with her. He did not rape her. As long as the girl was not penetrated that day, he is innocent.

No 1, your comment is limited by the video you are allowed to see.
No 2, Innocent of what exactly?! have you forgotten that over 5 charges were brought against him by the govt?! even penetration with fingers without penile penetration is also an offence on its own, kissing, caressing, fumbling of breasts or other body parts of a minor is considered an assault.
there are over five(charges) levelled against him, so there is nothing like "he is innocent if he is not guilty of one of them (penetrative sex)", he is only free or innocent if he is not guilty of any of the 5 charges (u can read them up).
and with the glaring video evidence i am wondering is he acting a movie? even on a movie set they may not depict a real underage they may use somewhat an adult (young looking or small stature) to play that role.
So only time will tell.
No emotion.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 2:08pm On Jun 18, 2021
Hamiltonii:

When are you supposed to remember him?
Everytime

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Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by kingthreat(m): 2:08pm On Jun 18, 2021
Yinkusgold:


No 1, your comment is limited by the video you are allowed to see.
No 2, Innocent of what exactly?! have you forgotten that over 5 charges were brought against him by the govt?! even penetration with fingers without penile penetration is also an offence on its own, kissing, caressing, fumbling of breasts or other body parts of a minor is considered an assault.
there are over five(charges) levelled against him, so there is nothing like "he is innocent if he is not guilty of one of them (penetrative sex)", he is only free or innocent if he is not guilty of any of the 5 charges (u can read them up).
and with the glaring video evidence i am wondering is he acting a movie? even on a movie set they may not depict a real underage they may use somewhat an adult (young looking or small stature) to play that role.
So only time will tell.
No emotion.

Well you have a strong point. Wish him luck.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 2:14pm On Jun 18, 2021
GboyegaD:


I read different versions of the story even one where it was claimed it was a set up. It is not for me to conclude but allow the law take its course.
if you are "set up" to commit a crime who bear the brunt?
e.g you are set up to kill, rape, abuse a minor, steal e.t.c would the law not apply? even though there is room fair hearing.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 2:44pm On Jun 18, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


What glaring evidence?

There are claims that the girl is not a minor. And the video shows a willingness on the part of the lady.

One thing with sexual molestation is that it is hard to prove.

As for the video of Baba Ijesha pleading for forgiveness, that is not a proof of wrongdoing. Some stuffs are said under duress, that is why the courts don't admit them.

Baba Ijesha had been manhandled when he began pleading for forgiveness. Who knew what they did to him or what threats were issued.

How you plead in court is what matters. Even how you confess in the police station is always taken with a pinch of salt because the courts know that the police usually beat suspects to make them confess even to crimes that they did not commit.
"there are claims the girl is not a minor"
let them come and present that in court.
agbayas/paedophiles plenty for naija who can't wait for young girls to mature, counting days and months.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 2:49pm On Jun 18, 2021
dragunov:


Bros, you can get carried away with anything and believe any shiit. That video clip you saw showed nothing near an assault.

When you are beaten up thoroughly and surrounded by a gang of boys, you will apologize for an imaginary offense too.
the girl is not 14 and the video doesn't represent molestation. You can't sit in your bed and provide details of the case based on the limited knowledge you have of it.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 2:56pm On Jun 18, 2021
breezeng:
People will never mind their business. As if they are saints.

no saints in the world. so we should all go into crime because others will mind their business abi?
moreover the guy is in the news so you don't expect people not to talk about him.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 3:21pm On Jun 18, 2021
true2god:
Stop this nonsense bro. The guy is never guilty of any crime and FYI, it were in western countries, the so-called princess will be in jail and not baba Ijesha.

Did he rape the girl? No.

There are other charges up to 5 or more against him apart from rape. (especially if she is established that she is a minor)
So u can't say he didn't do anything, the court will call for evidence.
u have to be educated on that.
if you charge princess that would have been for different reason and it doesn't prevent baba ijesa from facing his trial, even if princess sent baba ijesa to go and kill and he is caught will he not face the consequence?! Western countries are not foolish they know what to do.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 3:28pm On Jun 18, 2021
otipoju:


A million likes for you. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. All have sinned. Make men dey apply C- Caution for enything wey him dey do

then there shouldn't be punishment now! Let man without sin cast a stone, then everyone should go into crime. smh
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 3:39pm On Jun 18, 2021
authority2006:


Just like using sledge hammer to kill a mosquito. Everyone handling this case has been intimidated and blackmailed

what's the big deal about the bail condition? refundable fees, relatives if he never shows up, civil servant why should that be an issue if he is not guilty.
say no to sexual assault.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 3:50pm On Jun 18, 2021
GeneralPula:

Which evidence. The girl wasn’t raped nor rough handled..
Man isn’t God.
according to you? do you know all charges against him?
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 4:04pm On Jun 18, 2021
[quote Aauthor=chessguru post=102807099] what he said when he was ambushed in that video was under duress , he was beaten up and forced to say things . use your head . the girl , the alleged victim denied all that .
[/quote]

it is still early to decide, how can u solely say it is under duress, is it not possible for him to confess what he's done as well? Let the court decide.
don't carry everything on ur head.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by authority2006(m): 5:12pm On Jun 18, 2021
Yinkusgold:


what's the big deal about the bail condition? refundable fees, relatives if he never shows up, civil servant why should that be an issue if he is not guilty.
say no to sexual assault.

This is emotional blackmail we're talking about. Why must he provide two sureties of those characteristics and still be asked to deposit 500k naira upfront? That's too much of a bail condition for the offence!
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by BluntTheApostle(m): 7:07pm On Jun 18, 2021
Yinkusgold:

"there are claims the girl is not a minor"
let them come and present that in court.
agbayas/paedophiles plenty for naija who can't wait for young girls to mature, counting days and months.

The problem with people like you is that you are the more likely to have a lot of skeletons in their cupboards.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Therock5555(m): 10:27pm On Jun 18, 2021
Omihanifa:
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned


I see you man ...
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by dragunov: 12:25am On Jun 19, 2021
Yinkusgold:

the girl is not 14 and the video doesn't represent molestation. You can't sit in your bed and provide details of the case based on the limited knowledge you have of it.

Did you read my comment properly, niggah?
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 8:34am On Jun 19, 2021
dragunov:


Did you read my comment properly, niggah?

Oh boy! i read your comment properly and absolutely. u said the video clip is no near an assault (molestation) and also said the girl's not 14.
go back to ur comments, tho i will remind u now.
the point is, again u can't say in the affirmative what the court should determine.
It is premature.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 8:41am On Jun 19, 2021
dragunov:

He did not. Although he was randy. The girl is not 14.
Oh boy, have u forgotten this?
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by DonroxyII: 9:26am On Jun 19, 2021
Fistop:
Why do we always remember God mostly when in need?
That's the only option for any person and the last option!
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by DonroxyII: 9:31am On Jun 19, 2021
stalwart123:


Coz he's our oniduro.

He loved us, even when we didn't love him.
Why is God a "he" ?
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 9:32am On Jun 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


The problem with people like you is that you are the more likely to have a lot of skeletons in their cupboards.


firstly, "have a lot in your cupboards" not "in their cupboards"
as used above.

secondly, you have problems and you are also a menace to the society because you are holding on to hearsay and you are attacking when we say let the court do a thorough job.
I ain't no proud paedophile like you.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:42am On Jun 19, 2021
Yinkusgold:


firstly, "have a lot in your cupboards" not "in their cupboards"
as used above.

Firstly, it is "have a lot of skeletons in your cupboards" not "have a lot in your cupboards".

secondly, you have problems and you are also a menace to the society because you are holding on to hearsay and you are attacking when we say let the court do a thorough job.
I ain't no proud paedophile like you.

Secondly, it is hearsays, not hearsay.

And there is a difference between a pedophile and a sexual molester.

A pedophile can be a molester, but not all child molesters are pedophiles.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 11:54am On Jun 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


Firstly, it is "have a lot of skeletons in your cupboards" not "have a lot in your cupboards".



Secondly, it is hearsays, not hearsay.

And there is a difference between a pedophile and a sexual molester.

A pedophile can be a molester, but not all child molesters are pedophiles.

1stly, u just have 2 admit d 1st correction; rather u misunderstood me.
d indefatigable point is dat "......have a lot of ----- in your cupboard and not "their". if you like put skeletons, clothes or money depending on d usage my point is use d proper or suitable pronoun (your).

Secondly, u are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! to tell me dat "hearsay" is not correct FYI "hearsay" is an uncountable noun & just like other uncountable nouns, it appears usually d same way as its' singular form. d only time u can use "hearsays" is when there is collection of it at different times/on different issues & is not about many people's position on a single issue go & do ur research.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 12:06pm On Jun 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


Firstly, it is "have a lot of skeletons in your cupboards" not "have a lot in your cupboards".



Secondly, it is hearsays, not hearsay.

And there is a difference between a pedophile and a sexual molester.

Pedophile can be a molester, but not all child molesters are pedophiles.

Thirdly, who asked for the difference between paedophile and a molester?
Paedophilia is the sexual attraction towards a minor (not neccesary a molester or an abuser and he/she may also act on his/her feeling.)
A sexual molester actually abuses sexually i.e in the act he/she may be a paedophile or not.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by BluntTheApostle(m): 12:18pm On Jun 19, 2021
Yinkusgold:


Thirdly, who asked for the difference between paedophile and a molester?
Paedophilia is the sexual attraction towards a minor (not neccesary a molester or an abuser and he/she may also act on his/her feeling.)
A sexual molester actually abuses sexually i.e in the act he/she may be a paedophile or not.

Because I saw the way you were using the word pedophile anyhow.

Baba Ijesha may be a molester, but not necessarily a pedophile.

Because every time you ignorant people hear about child sexual molestation, you start screaming pedophile up and down.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by BluntTheApostle(m): 12:20pm On Jun 19, 2021
Yinkusgold:


1stly, u just have 2 admit d 1st correction; rather u misunderstood me.
d indefatigable point is dat "......have a lot of ----- in your cupboard and not "their". if you like put skeletons, clothes or money depending on d usage my point is use d proper or suitable pronoun (your).

Secondly, u are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! to tell me dat "hearsay" is not correct FYI "hearsay" is an uncountable noun & just like other uncountable nouns, it appears usually d same way as its' singular form. d only time u can use "hearsays" is when there is collection of it at different times/on different issues & is not about many people's position on a single issue go & do ur research.

The point is that you don't leave a major argument and start chasing shadows.

How can you be taken seriously
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 12:22pm On Jun 19, 2021
authority2006:


This is emotional blackmail we're talking about. Why must he provide two sureties of those characteristics and still be asked to deposit 500k naira upfront? That's too much of a bail condition for the offence!

They are achievable.

My main concern is that his innocense is proven in the court of law.
Re: Baba Ijesha In Court Today, Holds Christian Book, Pleads Not Guilty by Yinkusgold: 12:35pm On Jun 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


The point is that you don't leave a major argument and start chasing shadows.

How can you be taken seriously


how can you learn or grow in knowledge if people like us dont correct you? if you think all this forum is meant for is to just type senseless abuse up and down and you can't benefit from it intellectually then you are mistaken. example how can u tell me there is nothing like "hearsay" if u haven't read.
Don't play ostrich and don't be too proud learn from any given opportunity.

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