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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 10:24pm On Jul 12, 2021
youngpresidooo:
sorry what is wrong in paying tithe
there is nothing wrong in paying tithe but when last did you pay according to Deu 14:22-27? Why should a so called man of God say if someone doesn't pay tithe he/she wouldn't make it to heaven, is that not falsehood? Where is it written in the Bible? Though shalt not add or remove from these things therein!..... Be careful who, what you follow or listen to.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 11:37pm On Jul 12, 2021
lookingfly:
there is nothing wrong in paying tithe but when last did you pay according to Deu 14:22-27? Why should a so called man of God say if someone doesn't pay tithe he/she wouldn't make it to heaven, is that not falsehood? Where is it written in the Bible? Though shalt not add or remove from these things therein!..... Be careful who, what you follow or listen to.
is it God's commandment that we should pay tithe?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 7:43am On Jul 13, 2021
youngpresidooo:
is it God's commandment that we should pay tithe?
why are you dodging the questions i asked you? The truth is too much that you want bypass those questions right? Don't be an hypocrit!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Essien45: 7:49am On Jul 13, 2021
Empty minds discuss people. They discredit others because they feel that way they will be greater than the person they are discrediting.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by oluwafemim(m): 9:32am On Jul 13, 2021
bezimo:


Yes he did..the Pentecostal movement in Africa in the 70s was birthed after the ministry of Idahosa. Go and study history. Dont expose ignorance here.
I guess you don’t want to learn but want to fight with your statement but sorry you miss me and we’ll check this and find out.
Joseph Ayo Babalola
It was formally established in 1941 after a split from the Apostolic Church which the original Aladura organization (Faith Tabernacle) had invited to Nigeria. Its growth was led by Joseph Ayo Babalola, a road construction driver who became its founder.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Christ Apostolic Church - Wikipedia
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by preciousose(m): 11:36pm On Jul 13, 2021
youngpresidooo:
wait is TB joshua the only one that have died in this year? Or the only popular person that have died this year that this people didn't go there?
Like they don't see him as a pastor neither is church a church. And you want them to identify with them? I don't get, they know what they are doing. You guys see them as the same church but they don't see tb joshua church as a church in the first place neither do they see him as a colleague so what is the fuzz about?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by bezimo(m): 5:16pm On Jul 14, 2021
oluwafemim:

I guess you don’t want to learn but want to fight with your statement but sorry you miss me and we’ll check this and find out.
Joseph Ayo Babalola
It was formally established in 1941 after a split from the Apostolic Church which the original Aladura organization (Faith Tabernacle) had invited to Nigeria. Its growth was led by Joseph Ayo Babalola, a road construction driver who became its founder.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Christ Apostolic Church - Wikipedia

Oga no one fighting with you..but you with yourself.I know of very much about Babalola..but he was not part of the Pentecostal movement that started in the 70s.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by oluwafemim(m): 8:03pm On Jul 14, 2021
bezimo:


Oga no one fighting with you..but you with yourself.I know of very much about Babalola..but he was not part of the Pentecostal movement that started in the 70s.
You don’t know him, if you do then this case is settled
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by bezimo(m): 1:03am On Jul 15, 2021
oluwafemim:

You don’t know him, if you do then this case is settled

Rest on this matter in Jesus Name.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by oluwafemim(m): 9:11am On Jul 15, 2021
bezimo:


Rest on this matter in Jesus Name.
Amen
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 1:51pm On Jul 15, 2021
lookingfly:
there is nothing wrong in paying tithe but when last did you pay according to Deu 14:22-27? Why should a so called man of God say if someone doesn't pay tithe he/she wouldn't make it to heaven, is that not falsehood? Where is it written in the Bible? Though shalt not add or remove from these things therein!..... Be careful who, what you follow or listen to.
where is it written in the bible that you shouldn't smoke?
Is it right or wrong to smoke?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 1:52pm On Jul 15, 2021
lookingfly:
why are you dodging the questions i asked you? The truth is too much that you want bypass those questions right? Don't be an hypocrit!
you answering this question will answer your question
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 3:57pm On Jul 15, 2021
LordIsaac:
Christianity is designed not to cause harmony between those who follow Scriptures and mere humanists cum pastors.
Designed by whom? undecided
How many of your pastors follow scripture when they are busy using there special interpretation powers/magic to change even scripture? undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 4:55pm On Jul 15, 2021
youngpresidooo:
where is it written in the bible that you shouldn't smoke?
Is it right or wrong to smoke?
is it right or wrong to drink beer?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 4:56pm On Jul 15, 2021
lookingfly:
is it right or wrong to drink beer?
Not wrong. undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 5:03pm On Jul 15, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Not wrong. undecided
why is it labeled as sin?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 5:06pm On Jul 15, 2021
lookingfly:
why is it labeled as sin?
Who labelled it sin? You? undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 6:21pm On Jul 15, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Who labelled it sin? You? undecided
you know the drill na.....u still de ask.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 6:27pm On Jul 15, 2021
lookingfly:
you know the drill na.....u still de ask.
God is the author of His Law and if God does not condemn a thing as sin, no man has authority to do such on His behalf. undecided
God never condemned alcohol or even smoking as sin. Anyone who does such attempts to impersonate God and is therefore against God. undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 6:11am On Jul 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
God is the author of His Law and if God does not condemn a thing as sin, no man has authority to do such on His behalf. undecided
God never condemned alcohol or even smoking as sin. Anyone who does such attempts to impersonate God and is therefore against God. undecided
all i know is that there are lots of denominations which have their Man made doctrine and quote portions of the Bible in order to drive down their point and make somethings look like it's a sin. I totally don't support that. Also, the law doesn't have a hold on us anymore because Jesus Christ the author and finisher of our faith came to fulfill and when something is fulfilled, it's complete and that was why he said on the cross that it's finished. So anyone forcing tithe on you should also ensure themselves obey other laws in the Bible but they never obey such laws but singled out tithing because of the money gain.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 8:42am On Jul 16, 2021
lookingfly:
all i know is that there are lots of denominations which have their Man made doctrine and quote portions of the Bible in order to drive down their point and make somethings look like it's a sin. I totally don't support that. Also, the law doesn't have a hold on us anymore because Jesus Christ the author and finisher of our faith came to fulfill and when something is fulfilled, it's complete and that was why he said on the cross that it's finished. So anyone forcing tithe on you should also ensure themselves obey other laws in the Bible but they never obey such laws but singled out tithing because of the money gain.
I am afraid you are still being deceived by man-made doctrines and denominatons there. undecided

1. You were never under the Old Covenant Law and so tithing and offering which were defined in it were never any of your business because God excluded you all Gentiles from that agreement which He only made with the Jews - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it was not Jesus Christ that fulfilled the Law on your behalf but instead God that never had you bound to that Law to begin with. undecided

2. Jesus Christ is God's Law and agreement which you are bound to when you believe in Jesus Christ, even as a Gentile. He is God's way/agreement in the Kingdom of God and so you are meant to submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, God's Truth, as one who is bound to Him - John 14 vs 23-25. Sure, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of your faith and what He, your master, has called you to doing is to do as He commands of you. He even declares that those who are His friends are those who do as He commands them to do - John 15 vs 14 - implying that anyone who rejects His commands is an enemy of His. undecided

Jesus Christ gave His followers over 57 different laws which we are all expected to live by - every Word out of the mouth of God, Jesus Christ - Matthew 4 vs 4. undecided

God is God of Laws and He interacts with us through these Laws and agreements. His very relationship with us is defined in these contracts and handled faithfully so by Him. It was so in the Garden of Eden and remains so even in Jesus Christ...God's Laws are everlasting relationships He makes with us, His creation and He never changes. So to assume that you are no longer under Law is to assume God has changed His mind and that is a lie. undecided

Anyone who teaches you that God has changed is a liar and not of God either. It is best to read and understand God for yourself than listen to men lie to you in the name of God. undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 8:49am On Jul 16, 2021
uote author=Kobojunkie post=103759228]I am afraid you are still being deceived by man-made doctrines and denominatons there. undecided

1. You were never under the Old Covenant Law and so tithing and offering which were defined in it were never any of your business because God excluded you all Gentiles from that agreement which He only made with the Jews - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it was not Jesus Christ that fulfilled the Law on your behalf but instead God that never had you bound to that Law to begin with. undecided

2. Jesus Christ is God's Law and agreement which you are bound to when you believe in Jesus Christ, even as a Gentile. He is God's way/agreement in the Kingdom of God and so you are meant to submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, God's Truth, as one who is bound to Him - John 14 vs 23-25. Sure, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of your faith and what He, your master, has called you to doing is to do as He commands of you. He even declares that those who are His friends are those who do as He commands them to do - John 15 vs 14 - implying that anyone who rejects His commands is an enemy of His. undecided

Jesus Christ gave His followers over 57 different laws which we are all expected to live by - every Word out of the mouth of God, Jesus Christ - Matthew 4 vs 4. undecided

God is God of Laws and He interacts with us through these Laws and agreements. His very relationship with us is defined in these contracts and handled faithfully so by Him. It was so in the Garden of Eden and remains so even in Jesus Christ...God's Laws are everlasting relationships He makes with us, His creation and He never changes. So to assume that you are no longer under Law is to assume God has changed His mind and that is a lie. undecided

Anyone who teaches you that God has changed is a liar and not of God either. It is best to read and understand God for yourself than listen to men lie to you in the name of God. undecided[/quote]are you a true believer or one atheist trying so hard to make your point known because lots of what you type here are contradictory?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Kobojunkie: 9:00am On Jul 16, 2021
lookingfly:
are you a true believer or one atheist trying so hard to make your point known because lots of what you type here are contradictory?
Point out the contradictory items in my comment please. undecided
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by ofuonyebi: 9:27pm On Feb 13, 2023
Why i dont like a Christian condemning or criticizing a christian which the muslims dont do...

Yet, there is a little sense in what the attention seeking Ayodele has said about these so called big men of God of our era

if it was any member G.O of the CAN OR PFN thad passed on like TB,Joshua

All these men of God will wear their best to be named at the roll call in his book of tributes or even at the burial...

must everybody be forced to join any association before been recognized?

Honestly, TB..JOSHUA has broken that yoke....he stood with God alone and was recognised by the whole world!

Let the primate too be focused and stop character assasination of others....our God is the best judge...everybody will die one day no matter how long you live..
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Nobody: 10:55pm On Feb 13, 2023
pansophist:
Of course, I know. I have always said earlier that what Africans considered independence was a transition of the old method of exploitation (colonialism), to a new, self-sustaining, sophisticated method of permanent subjugation (imperialism). They replace the white colonial faces with black faces, whom they promise all the support and will ignore all their crimes if they continue sustaining all their exploitative structures that were built in the colonial era. So as countries were getting their so-called independence, they were ushered into western imperialistic ecosystems. So they became a member of the UN, and ICC, must use the dollar, imposed educational systems, their corporations coming in to control their resources, (eg Shell and Nigeria oil), and so on. In simple terms, think of how a butcher moves the cows from the farm to the slaughterhouse. In the cow's mind, he is free from the enclosed farm, but the slaughterhouse though modern and shiny with machines is worse than where they were coming from. You see the way the US froze billions of dollars of Afghanistan's foreign reserves, and as they did with Russia as well, that's exactly the fate that awaits any country that tries to pull off their imperialistic eco-system. While we are busy fighting each other like idiots, they are up there designing sophisticated systems to keep others down, and themselves on top. And this world order must go, or else, the global south will never develop. China refused to be part of that system, now look at them. Iran refused and was sanctioned to death, but they still thrive and built their own planes and so forth. Until we leave western dependence and walk our own part, no magic Peter Obi will perform. It's like putting a pilot in a ship, it can't do anything with it. How can the world be democratic when less than 15% of the world population (the west) controls everything? if this is not authoritarianism, then what is authoritarianism? But I always take responsibility, so I won't blame them much, I blame our ancestors for letting this degrade this badly, and makes it harder for current and future generation to solve. The rot is too much.

pansophist:
Josep Borell is a racist piece of shit. Sadly, this scum is a top EU politician, and calling the non-western countries jungle is a reincarnation of the mindset that led to colonialism and slavery pro-max. He still sees the world from a colonial lens, but his arrogance is needed since that's how he can cope in a changing world that is increasingly becoming multi-polar and catching up.

From 1991 to 2022, something that has never happened before in the history of the world happened, that thing is called unipolarism. After the collapse of the soviet union in 1991, China was dirt poor, imperial Japan has been defeated and occupied, the same with nazi Germany, India still recovering from British colonialism, Iran was in deep soup, and Africa was too backward to even be noticed.

The west, especially the US was the largest economy, and the strongest military power holds the world's reserved currency and enjoys an unparalleled political, economical, military, and soft power globally. The US was so strong that when it coughs, the world shivered. And then they showed themselves. Then the global bombing tour started, from Iraq to Syria, Venezuela to Yugoslavia, and Libya to Iran, to name a few.

Meanwhile, the Chinese who have suffered what they called a ''century of humiliation'' was in the background bidding their time, getting stronger, and building themselves up. The Chinese who lost territories the size of Nigeria x4, an empire nation that was torn apart by foreign powers, and saw what awaits you when you are weak, said to themselves, NEVER AGAIN.

Putin was then a KGB agent in Germany, young and smart, but silent and working his way up into the Kremlin. He witnessed how countries that used to be part of Russia have now become sworn enemies of Russia, and he dreamt of a stronger, independent, and sovereign Russia that occupies its rightful place on the international stage.

And February, 24th of 2022 will be remembered as the date when the world becomes clearly multipolar, after thirty years of failed unipolarism. The world has clearly understood the kind of monster the west is, and how they dream of a world where everyone is down, and only them up. Now, the way the international stage is set up, other stronger countries are now a deterrent, and they will never allow themselves to be weak again. NEVER.

It will not happen very fast, but the complete breakdown of western hegemony will happen faster than the time it took to build it. Destruction is faster than building, and destroying evil is even faster, especially when the destroyers are the victims of the very evil. I know the Russia-China alliances are cooking something, I suspect that they have set traps that will render all western imperialistic ecosystems useless.

From my calculations, the more the west throws out a country from its imperialistic systems, an alternative will be invented that will make that system useless. So for example, they threw Russia out of swift, but Russia created SPFS which they used to carry financial transactions between themselves and other countries.

If they threw China out of the UN for example, then a new UN that is fair will be invented, rendering the western controlled system useless. If you refuse to sell your tech, buy our oil, or ban us from visiting your countries (as they did with Russians), you will kill your industry and other regions will benefit financially from your market loss. One thing that kills a monopoly is competition, especially competent competition.

We live in very interesting times. Brace up, shit might get really bad before it gets better. Sha has proper wealth, not fiat money only, which can collapse. Have farmland, a water well, and livestock/poultry, these will keep you alive, not chains, iPhones, and paper money. Your survival is in your hands, not the government. Be vigilant, and use the internet to learn real stuff and how the world works, not just for social media and entertainment.

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