Lifestone:

Lets wait till judgement day to find out, but today Oyedepo has properly handled an unfruitful branch Pastor

Acidosis:
The media will always use people's minds and emotions the way they want. That's why I didn't bother to respond to that thread.

First, whoever believes that Winners Chapel will release such a letter and cite money reasons must be very very senseless in real life.

Second, the idea of dismissing a pastor out of service doesn't make sense. However, I do not expect an unproductive church to remain unproductive either. What are you doing as a Church if you don't attract new souls? Of course, more souls typically means more income for the church. So yeah, no one should be surprised when everyone focus on the money which they believe is the answer to all their life troubles.

If the church is not growing, what should the church management do? The right alternative should have been to change the leadership of the local church, not outrightly sack a pastor (unless there are genuine reasons to do so). He may thrive better in a new environment, or simply work together with other pastors in an established church. This is the norm everywhere.

Wiseandtrue:
I wasn't going to comment on this topic until Oyedepo himself address this issue!

But Reno, got this all wrong!

You guys have become fishers of money and not fishers of men chai! God must be a patient God oooo!

Now if the growth you are talking about is the physical growth:

Did the apostles win souls for Christ when He was with them I mean they were always going about with Jesus

And if the monetary aspect, many of the disciples STOPPED working when they met Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ has been taking care of every of their needs! Go and read Matthew 4:18–22, Mark 3:16-20 and Luke 5:1–11 , John 1:35–51!

So if BISHOP Oyedepo is really like Christ and is doing the work of Jesus Christ why can't he take care of his pastors need Or is God Almighty not a great provider again

Is Oyedepo now God Stop making mockery of God's name all in the name of looking for money!
Modified:

Did you read at all

Did Oyedepo ordained these men without hearing from God

God cannot contradict Himself!

Who is Oyedepo to sack those who wish to serve God

Even when the apostles were trying to stop those worshipping God simply because they are not part of them

Jesus Christ said "leave them! If they are not against us, they are with us!

How do you sack a pastor who is not stealing, going diabolical As a pastor, was he not prayerful Is he found wanted as a leader at home

Common!

MemoriesAndMe:

I read it very well. I also read the comment from one of the affected pastors that said he called to get some clarification and he was told that the church needs revenue to operate and can't operate at a loss. How is it his fault? I bet he won't be affected Ted if his church members were fraudsters, kidnappers, drug dealers etc that are able to donate more than enough.

Haven't we all seen how many of these churches want branches in Abuja, PH, Lagos etc and barely think of remote places where financially struggling villagers are? Would they fire pastors there too if they can't meet the said index?

ijaw1stson:
Is Reno so bored in America? Must he react over everything he sees online? I tire for this man abeg

cassidy1996:
seems he is, he misses Nigeria too, but he dey fear to come home

dazzlingd:


Hahaha,

Performance review, church don dey do appraisal
This church business is booming

Lifestone:

You see most of you guys can't be a good judge. Why should we bring in all these side talk and stick with what is written in black and white

Onepeople:
he can be redeployed into other departments in the church, I don't want to believe that this was how it happened, what happened to payment of benefits and other entitlements? Reno can quote any part of the bible to back up this nonsense, but definitely wrong in strata of human endeavour, I am a fan oyedepo,but is not right.

Lifestone:

With this type of attitude, he they will pollute any department he's posted to, he's toxic and best he they was sacked

Lifestone:
Some lazy anti church elements never bothered to read the letter anyway, they ran to town screaming Church is a Business.
What's in a Pastor that could not bring in souls into the Kingdom of God? What was he hired to do?
Am not surprised where we are today as a nation when we could not hold people accountable for the assignments that they were given.
The attitude of the Pastor is the more reason he failed, an entitlement mentality and he was rightly sacked.

Lifestone:

You are prejudiced.
Why will you insinuate what was not written in the letter. It's convenient for you to insult the Church and not hold the Pastor accountable for what he was hired to do.
Oyedepo is not a stupid man otherwise he wouldn't have been successful in building a Church from zero to over 2million membership. Simply say you hate the Church but that won't stop the church of Christ from growing.

thesicilian:
But should "church growth" only be measured by the number of new comers in the church? If a church has 20 members and they're all growing spirituality through the teachings and guidance of the pastor, isn't that worthy of commendation as well?

HRSweetness:


Of course church is a business. Jesus said I must go about my father's business. So it is right to say church is a business, but the church business is about soul winning and ensuring that won souls enjoy the abundant life Christ promised.

Lifestone:

Look at your twisted rationality, a Church hired a Pastor and he should evangelize for convert to go to other churches when he's heading a church where these converts can be discipled.
Well the simple question that his employer asked him is to show his fruits, he couldn't and he was rightly fired.

Lifestone:
Some lazy anti church elements never bothered to read the letter anyway, they ran to town screaming Church is a Business.
What's in a Pastor that could not bring in souls into the Kingdom of God? What was he hired to do?
Am not surprised where we are today as a nation when we could not hold people accountable for the assignments that they were given.
The attitude of the Pastor is the more reason he failed, an entitlement mentality and he was rightly sacked.

ijaw1stson:
Is Reno so bored in America? Must he react over everything he sees online? I tire for this man abeg

Acidosis:
The media will always use people's minds and emotions the way they want. That's why I didn't bother to respond to that thread.
First, whoever believes that Winners Chapel will release such a letter and cite money reasons must be very very senseless in real life.
Second, the idea of dismissing a pastor out of service doesn't make sense.


[s] However, I do not expect an unproductive church to remain unproductive either. What are you doing as a Church if you don't attract new souls? Of course, more souls typically means more income for the church. So yeah, no one should be surprised when everyone focus on the money which they believe is the answer to all their life troubles.
If the church is not growing, what should the church management do? The right alternative should have been to change the leadership of the local church, not outrightly sack a pastor (unless there are genuine reasons to do so). He may thrive better in a new environment, or simply work together with other pastors in an established church. This is the norm everywhere [/s] .

Verysmart101:


When you talk about fruit,wat does "fruit" signify?

Verysmart101:


U forgot to add that he is the richest pastor in the world with numerous private jets.Stop being sentimental Mr man.

advanceDNA:


I don’t thinks this is about money..

In winners, the main duty of resident pastor is church growth i.e in numbers of people...

the fact is...no pastor can force people to give...Increase in number of people doesn’t necessarily translate to increase in money...

For example...if number of women( mothers are on the increase in a particular month. Automatically that’s double or triple because mothers will come with kids... but that won’t mean increase in offering or tithe...as children don’t give...

A pastor can’t drag rich people to church or force them to give so really he has no control over increase in money....

My opinion shaa

Ever8090:
oh...he was hired and not called abi?...una try well well...

LegacyB:
Let’s stop all this hypocritical analysis please. What were the pastors employed for in the first place??.
So they want to continue lounging while they get free salaries. If you can’t stand the heat pls get out of the kitchen.

advanceDNA:


I don’t thinks this is about money..

In winners, the main duty of resident pastor is church growth i.e in numbers of people...

the fact is...no pastor can force people to give...Increase in number of people doesn’t necessarily translate to increase in money...

For example...if number of women( mothers are on the increase in a particular month. Automatically that’s double or triple because mothers will come with kids... but that won’t mean increase in offering or tithe...as children don’t give...

A pastor can’t drag rich people to church or force them to give so really he has no control over increase in money....

My opinion shaa

Commentor:


Will you shut up?

What was the spurpose of the Widow's mite?

Ever8090:
I don't understand this growth in population you people are forcing us to accept in a particular meaning..the direct meaning there is, the more the population the higher the money, this is simple logic I beg...