Mangekyo:


You're a clown if you think at this point USA can do shit to Russia without getting their asses handed to them. Russia can f**k US up anytime any day! China can go toe to toe with them. But if the NATO decides to step in, then Russia, North Korea, Pakistan, Egypt and others would step in too. Russia alone can clear off the entire NATO leaving the US for China to deal with

You're honestly being very delusional at this point. The Russians have Europe and Canada to deal with on the western front, on the Eastern front China has India,south Korea, Australia and Japan to deal with. I've not counted Israel,Egypt and Saudi Arabia that get billions for defence from the USA yearly. Yes the USA can be bullies but one thing they've done well is arming their allies to the teeth. USA defence budget every year dwarfs that of China and Russia combined back to back. No one knew of the atomic bombs till the first was dropped on Japan, the USA definitely have more in the arsenal than they're letting on.

pansophist:


ICBM's automatically renders any bases, aircraft carriers, submarines utterly useless. Ordinary North Korea, Americans dare not fight, I mean they just left Afghanistan weeks ago after wasting trillions of dollars, and you believe they will defeat China? Why do you also think China do not have its own secret weapons?

Bro, what is ICBM? I am really following the conversation.

pacespot:


You are talking as someone who slept off since 1940 but just woke up in 2021.

All the wars USA won in the past were due to their superior military technology, dropping of atomic bomb (the first of its kind then) on Japanese two cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki effectively ended the WW2 and cemented USA as the preeminent power in the world.

The world has changed since then, even USA was partly defeated in the Vietnam war in 1950s, China was able to stand strong and defend North Korea against all the USA and its Western forces during the Korea war, despite China having far inferior military technology then.

Now you want to compare China of today to China then

The Chinese won due to sheer numbers, today sheer numbers aren't guaranteed to give you victory.

SUCKCESSFUL:
I just dey pity China
Even Putin wey dey try impress Russians know say America no be him papa agemate.
You'll never see America doing this kind of shit, anyways them chinks are just showing Dutch courage.

The weaponry America will employ against them is still classified, no be everybody get the info.

Do your research, the whole Europe would've been a German colony if not for the US. France and great Britain are still grateful till today.

Ordinary China wey Japan invade, war is not won by numbers, Hannibal had fewer men but he almost conquered Rome.

Besides the US has Bases, submarines and aircraft carriers in their backyard whilst none of them have any Ally or base near the north American Continent.

Modified

For some chinko fanboys quoting me and talking shit about Russia stopping the Germans and not the Americans.

Do you know how many Americans that died on the D day at Normandy?

Do you know the amount of support and logistics America gave in the war effort Even before joining the war?

The Russians did nothing tangible against the Germans, Hitler almost took Russia, it was natural causes that stopped him ( which by then America American has joined the war, the Germans were fighting on many fronts amidst depleting resources). That was when your overrated Soviet Union came with their tanks and started forming gra gra.

Where were the Russians when Hitler took Austria and Poland their neighbors??
The same Russia will later claim half of Germany after committing war crimes and raping German girls and women.
Y'all just hate the US.

The real MVPs are Britain and the US
Respect the star spangled banner!!!

As for China, they only want Taiwan in order to have more stake in the south China Sea.
Taiwan and Hong Kong are developed and more democratic than mainland China sef, why is China hell-bent on reuniting it? The Taiwanese people are happy, why are the communist not contented with their over 1 billion population? The answer is simple, the Chinese are greedy people!!!!

As for Ur thoughts on ww2 with US and UK...u where totally wrong.
Where was the US when the German Luftwaffe was bomberding London?
The truth is dat d war ended when Germans where defeated in Stalingrad,and this was the biggest battle of WWII with over 2m soldiers lost.
When it was obvious dat Russia was about to take all of Germany, d westerners moved in.
Don't twist history.

Men,na real war be this oh

zendi:

Both sides coordinated their advances. Hitler was the definition of biting more than you can chew. If Germany had not invaded Russia, and Japan had not attacked America, it's arguable the entire Western Europe would have become German territory; France, Britain and all.

The Russians were the nearest to capturing Hitler. He and his girlfriend committed suicide under a hell of incoming Russian shelling.

Except Britain tho... Those guys defended their land very well that the Germans had to abandon their plans

witworth:
I pity china, make Dem go ask japan wetin U.S use their eyes see for world war 2.
All these threat and warning are irrelevant, no need.
Try and see wetin go do you china.

Nah that was then.
Now almost every one has a nuke.
Am not saying d US is not a strong force oo. U can't compare d present China army to to d Japanese army of of 1948.
Do u know dat Japan defeated China 1895,1937-1945?, but today Japan is seeking protect from China by d US.
Q

Norwichsailor:

The Chinese won due to sheer numbers, today sheer numbers aren't guaranteed to give you victory.

Then what is it to guarantee victory today that China doesn't have. You want to go to war with a country that can manufacture millions of military hardwares in a short space of time given their advanced manufacturing capacity. Even the steels that the USA is using to manufacture its military weaponry are produced in China.

You think the USA is a fool for negotiating peace with North Korea after the initial Donald Trump macho man show?

Jerryherd:



Brainwashed negro... Russians stopped the Nazis not Americans, even the atomic bomb used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki where made by German nazi defacto...

Calling a G7 Japan ordinary is just outrightly silly

In a nuclear warfare 3 things count, ability to lunch a second and 3rd attack, numbers of nuclear warheads you can deliver and your intercontinental ballistic missile to deliver it, China and Russia would give Hollywood movies Americans a run for their money



.

Russia is the king of the north and America is a toothless bulldog.
Russia will turn the whole of America to dust.

joyandfaith:


Read about free France troops during ww2. After defeat of France by both Germany and Italy in 1940, france government did sign armistice with Germany. However, free france trooos were still fighting around the world especially in north Africa.

Abegi! We are talking about France as a nation, you talking about fragments of French people fighting under the British. Some citizens and governments of conquered countries defected to Britain and continued propaganda war against Germany. That's like when you beat up a child and he manages to escape and starts insulting you from afar.

emmaodet:


Bro, what is ICBM? I am really following the conversation.

Inter continental ballistic missles

Asgard73:


Americans not Russia..

Winter and cold stopped the Germans from advancing... not Russian troops.

How exactly did America conquer Germany? Russia committed all their resources, tanks, troops e.t.c to the bloodiest battle in human history (battle of Stalingrad). Although the weather play its part

Etinosa1234:


Except Britain tho... Those guys defended their land very well that the Germans had to abandon their plans

Hitler for some strange reasons did not really want to destroy the British. He considered them a superior race, just like the Aryans (German) remember he let the British Expeditionary Force off the hook at Dunkirk when he could easily have destroyed them. He wanted to make peace with Britain. His real target was Russia. Besides, his calculation was that, if I beat Russia, Britain will have zero motivation to fight.

Asgard73:


Americans not Russia..

Winter and cold stopped the Germans from advancing... not Russians troops.

U need proper history class bro.

sonofthunder:



Lol



I laugh in Russian


I just wonder where you get your information from

Go read your history. I am a big fan of military history. From Hannibal, Mithidrates, King Pyrrhus, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, King Cyrus, you name it. Go read up on the Russian T34 tanks and how it scared the crap out of German soldiers.

pacespot:


Then what is it to guarantee victory today that China doesn't have. You want to go to war with a country that can manufacture millions of military hardwares in a short space of time given their advanced manufacturing capacity. Even the steels that the USA is using to manufacture its military weaponry are produced in China.

You think the USA is a fool for negotiating peace with North Korea after the initial Donald Trump macho man show?

Lol
The reason people run to China to produce is basically because of two things, cheap manufacturing cost and cheap labour, nothing special, so you find many foreign companies going there to produce and everyone feels China is amazing. Its just like you setting up a company in Ghana but mainly servicing the Nigerian marker because its easy to produce in Ghana than here.
One advantage the USA has over its allies is having bases near their enemies while their enemies can't have anything close to their soil and the allies factor, aside China and North Korea every other Pacific power eg Japan,South Korea, Australia, Singapore, etc are American allies with great military capability.
Note I'm talking about convention warfare and not nuclear warfare because everybody will die regardless of which side yurr on.

Can u give me a link on YouTube or any video that I can watxh a documentary base on this?

dermmy:
Taiwan used to be part of China until China was defeated by Japan during the First Sino-Japanese war of 1894. After which Japan forced China to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki of 1895 under it Japan forced China to cede Taiwan, Pescadores Island and Liaodong peninsula and China paid a heavy indemnity to Japan even though Japan started the war by launching a surprise attack on China.

After the communists seized power in 1949, Chiang Kai Shek the country's president and the chairman of Chinese Nationalist Party(Kuomintang) fled China with over 2 million Kuomintang party members went to Taiwan to set up a new nationalist government there.

Chiang Kai Shek pronounced Taiwan as the new Republic of China with U.S. backing. U.S failed to recognize the new communist govt in mainland China The people's Republic of China (PRC) because the cold War had already started. The fear that communism could spill into other parts of Asia made America to isolate China and prevent it from getting Taiwan from the capitalist dictator Chiang Kai Shek.

America's Hypocrisy

When the U.S. puppet Chiang Kai-Shek was still ruling China America had no problem with Taiwan being part of China but when the communist Mao Zedong unseated Chiang Kai shek leading to Chiang Kai Shek's exit to Taiwan, Taiwan ceased to be part of China according to America and Chiang Kai Shek.

The Communists had plans to invade Taiwan and get it back from the Kuomintang leader Chiang Kai Chek during the early cold war years but America killed that ambition by bringing Taiwan into the San Francisco System which led to the Sino-American Mutual Defence Treaty with Chiang Kai-Chek's Taiwan making it difficult for China to invade and get back its lost territory.

China lost Taiwan to U.S. cold war powerplay.

joyandfaith:


You are wrong. Nazi invaded Russia up to outskirts of Moscow. As Germans were Russians in Russia soil, japan was occupying China. italian with german forces were fighting allies in North Africa and Europe.
US joined the war when Japan declared war on us by bombing pearl harbour. From 1941, US fought in four major fronts - Pacific, North Africa, Asia and Europe. Uk fought in all fronts against axis but more in Europe and North Africa. France fought mainly in the North Africa and Europe. It was US and UK war efforts that stop Germany and Japan. Japan was last to surrender to US and war ended.
US was major supplies of weapons to Soviet union and other allies powers. US made bombs that were used in bombing japan. Albert Einstein , a german jew who escaped to USA was instrumental in formula they used in making the bomb.

Lies lies lies.
Russia was the main MVP OF WW2.
STOP ALL DIS ATOMIC WEAPON OF HIROSHIMA SHIT,... GERMANY WAS THE MAIN OPPOSING FORCE IN WW2....YES US, UK F ANCE DEFEATED JAPAN,ITALY AND FINLAND.
BUT STALIN DEFEATED HITLER.
LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE.
THE BATTLE AT STALINGRAD WAS THE D BIGGEST BATTLE OF WW2 AND IT WAS FOUGHT BY D GERMAN AND RUSSIAN FORCES. THAT IS THE WAR THAT DEMORALISED HITLER.
THE RUSSIANS WON THAT BATTLE ALONE. FROM THERE THEY PUSHED TO BERLIN AND STARTED TAKING OVER GERMANY, ON HEARING THAT, THE US AND THEIR ALLIES QUICKLY MOVED IN, THAS WHY U COULD SEE DAT RUSSIAN TOOK D CHUNK OF GERMANY BEFORE D WEST CAME IN.
DAT WAS D GENESIS OF THE COLD WAR.

HISTORY 101.

CUMIN:


China will still take over Taiwan... it's just a matter of time.

It's wrong... Let Taiwan be, I will even prefer a China disgrace, their own too much.
It's shocking that it's dis same wicked China we are taking loan from.
The day we default on these loan, we go see OBA.
China doesn't regards for humans.

Norwichsailor:

Lol
The reason people run to China to produce is basically because of two things, cheap manufacturing cost and cheap labour, nothing special, so you find many foreign companies going there to produce and everyone feels China is amazing. Its just like you setting up a company in Ghana but mainly servicing the Nigerian marker because its easy to produce in Ghana than here.
One advantage the USA has over its allies is having bases near their enemies while their enemies can't have anything close to their soil and the allies factor, aside China and North Korea every other Pacific power eg Japan,South Korea, Australia, Singapore, etc are American allies with great military capability.
Note I'm talking about convention warfare and not nuclear warfare because everybody will die regardless of which side your on.

You are stating his point, war is a no holds barred affair and America knows that war with China is mutual suicide. China has nuclear submarines that can get close to America and launch nuclear missiles. So the advantage of distance that America used to have is no more there. Do you think China will think twice about nuking America? You know the answer.

asamaigho:


Lies lies lies.
Russia was the main MVP OF WW2.
STOP ALL DIS ATOMIC WEAPON OF HIROSHIMA SHIT,... GERMANY WAS THE MAIN OPPOSING FORCE IN WW2....YES US, UK F ANCE DEFEATED JAPAN,ITALY AND FINLAND.
BUT STALIN DEFEATED HITLER.
LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE.
THE BATTLE AT STALINGRAD WAS THE D BIGGEST BATTLE OF WW2 AND IT WAS FOUGHT BY D GERMAN AND RUSSIAN FORCES. THAT IS THE WAR THAT DEMORALISED HITLER.
THE RUSSIANS WON THAT BATTLE ALONE. FROM THERE THEY PUSHED TO BERLIN AND STARTED TAKING OVER GERMANY, ON HEARING THAT, THE US AND THEIR ALLIES QUICKLY MOVED IN, THAS WHY U COULD SEE DAT RUSSIAN TOOK D CHUNK OF GERMANY BEFORE D WEST CAME IN.
DAT WAS D GENESIS OF THE COLD WAR.

HISTORY 101.

Spot on!

Masterito:
See while you try to make sense, China can cause alot of damage to the US but won't win US in a war (conventional or nuclear). US has many classified weapons and alot of surprises for war. They don't display arms like China does. But China knows very well not to mess with Americans. Just like Japan, China will learn learn a good lesson if they mess with Americans.

And u think China doesn't have classified weapons.

kponkedenge:


Go read your history books.... Russia was invaded by the nazis......Russia didn't defeat them.

Bros d Germans invaded every one,....UK, Poland,France, Russia was not an exception. But it was only Russia dat pushed d Germans back and deciminated them at Kursk, STALINGRAD, Leningrad,Kiev etc.
D battle was won d day d Russians pushed d Germans back to Berlin and dat battle lasted for any 163days with over 2m soldiers lost.
D battle of Normandy France was a child's play.

Norwichsailor:

Lol
The reason people run to China to produce is basically because of two things, cheap manufacturing cost and cheap labour, nothing special, so you find many foreign companies going there to produce and everyone feels China is amazing. Its just like you setting up a company in Ghana but mainly servicing the Nigerian marker because its easy to produce in Ghana than here.
One advantage the USA has over its allies is having bases near their enemies while their enemies can't have anything close to their soil and the allies factor, aside China and North Korea every other Pacific power eg Japan,South Korea, Australia, Singapore, etc are American allies with great military capability.
Note I'm talking about convention warfare and not nuclear warfare because everybody will die regardless of which side yurr on.

In your mind now you think those Asian neighbours will go to war with China because of United States, a North American country?

We are talking about Chinese engineers who manufacture everything, is like you don't know how these manufacturing companies deliver their products, they source for components elsewhere, for instance, it might be only the mother board of iPhones that is truly Apple made. Most of these technologies in manufacturing are in the hands of Chinese engineers.

timesup234:
Be like you want make them ring 40 beer bottles for your head. Be like you won mad enter grave

words of a lowbirth!

Just one frustrated internet nobody.

BritishNaija:


Please stop using information thst was used to clarify if UFO exists or not to make a point.

I'm glad I could join discussion on here now after being granted leave.

Truth be told, there is no way China can match U.S. in terms of military power, U.S. I more of offensive force while China is more of defensive.

Beside China live using propaganda to make a point, and can't risk the fall out of war.
If their hope of defeating U.S. is based on their atomic bomb, then they do get wipe out pretty sooner than later.

When it comes to using conventional weaponry, China is no where close to U.S. they are just being lousy and bully to their small neighbours.

Bro .... look at what is happening on ground and you can get a good idea who is afraid of who. When US takes it military into what it claims to be international waters and China claims it is their territory.... why is it that the US doesn't stand its ground but always backs out when confronted by China's military? When has China or Russia ever backed off in modern times in any confrontation? China said Taiwan is theirs ... which foreign military has entered Taiwan to prove otherwise? Why not? This is 2021 ... not the 1900's.

Chinese fighter jet backing off US jet. Photo taken from US jet.

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Fuckyoumod:
truly illiteracy and ignorance is a dieses! Guy you posses the both!
The atomic bomb used in Japan was classified unheard of, unknown to Germany , Russia and even 89% of Americans didn't know it existed until that D day.

Forget Russia and her noisy display lately, there are so many classified American weapons that are unheard of. It would never be heard of until they day they use it on your big head.

Your ignorance and brainwashing are unprecedented. Sorry, bro.

Bro, what is ICBM? I am really following the conversation. [/quote]

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aidameoryou:


story, keeping shouting brainwashed negro as if you know any better
none and i mean NONE can still match the US military and her allies till date, its not about launching 1st 2nd 3rd and 18th ballistic nuclear brouhaha as you mention as if you know with evidence...

US is still the UNO with regards to military, and what you just need is to test snd see....
not by noise making, and writing meaninglessly

Get your Hollywood ass outta here

Etinosa1234:


Russia did not stop the Nazis alone..

If u had read, Stalin begged the allies to open another warfront in the West to ease pressure on his army

And they didn't open any until D-Day invasion 6th June 1944.

By then the Russians have already broken the German Wermacht into bloody pieces.

Also remember that the Germans deployed their best fighting force to the east against the Russians and the German war against the Russians was a War of Annihilation.

Not a brother to brother war like it did against the west.

Anyways I respect your view �

HolinessForever:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLzk8T9yJI

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15723481/ww3-fears-china-stages-taiwan-invasion-drills/amp/

.... Empty vessels always make the loudest noise..... If they really want to show force, they should do the needful and not make noise about it.... Let your actions speak for you and not your words

Zeezy81:


None is being brainwashed here. He has said his bit and you have said yours.

Let me add, that Russia did not stop Germany, but America did. Germany lost men to the harsh terrains and extreme weathers of the USSR, but Winston Churchill got the support of the US to overcome the Germans

Russians also lost men to their own harsh terrains.

If you know how the Russians stood alone against the German Wermacht during the dark days of 1941,1942 & 1943 you will understand their enormous effort in saving the day

During the 6 months of the Battle of Stalingrad alone , the Russians killed over 1million Germans . More German were killed in this battle alone than were killed in entire WW2 by America.

It was the Germans +4 other countries against Russia

Western media will always hide the Russian efforts during WW2

The Americans did their very best no doubt but Omo, don't even touch WW2 if you don't have the knowledge. It's bigger than Hollywood