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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 8:04pm On Aug 02
BassReeves:
I glad that you're slowly but surely opening up

Beloved, you'll have to trust me that I am not asleep. Out of curiosity, what's the awakening to?

I careless about Annunaki

Beloved, I was specific. I said, 'indigenous to here or localised mythology' nah. If you arent privy to any from the west, at least, you're spoilt for choice give any out of the pantheon from the east.

You dont have go personal. Fyi, the bible isnt mine.

How exactly do you mean, a god? In what sense, is Adama, a god created?

Why was she called Eva? Who called her or gave her the name Eva?

The fittest of the fittest survive and stay alive

Repeating myself. Beloved, I was specific. I said, 'indigenous, to here or localised mythology' nah. If you arent privy to any from the west, at least, you're spoilt for choice from the east pantheon

Again, many creation myths around the world feature pairs (duality) sometimes as human beings or something else. The Japanese creation myth features a man and a woman.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 8:07pm On Aug 02
musicwriter:
And on that, I acknowledged that it wasn't a good idea after all.
Please be more clearer how you mean by this remark

BassReeves:
Are you a learner? Dont you know that everything is seasonal? That there is a time for everything? Thats Bible 101 nah, there is a time for everything and a season for every activity under the heavens etc

musicwriter:
But I insist we must see it from the perspective of their time.
Exactly, it was not the hour

musicwriter:
Secondly, there was no precedent for them to learn from.
They weren't created as babies, rather they were created as full gown adults. Yes, there was no precedent for them to learn from, yet they had access and took advantage of fast track learning

musicwriter:
Everything that has been learned on this earth, they did it FIRST!! Hope you understand.
You learn from your prototypes. You take cues from the prototypes. Hope you understand
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 8:12pm On Aug 02
musicwriter:
Again, many creation myths around the world feature pairs (duality) sometimes as human beings or something else. The Japanese creation myth features a man and a woman.
Again, 'indigenous, to here or localised mythology' please?
Whether sometimes as human beings or something else, give me a native one.
I careless about whatever Japanese creation myth that features a man and a woman. I solicit for home-grown talent, so what is it. It shouldn't be hard for you to come out with names

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 8:54pm On Aug 02
BassReeves:
Again, 'indigenous, to here or localised mythology' please?
Whether sometimes as human beings or something else, give me a native one.
I careless about whatever Japanese creation myth that features a man and a woman. I solicit for home-grown talent, so what is it. It shouldn't be hard for you to come out with names

I don't know what is it about native myth. The Dogon creation myth features a female and a male. Again, such is common across the world and told in various forms.

Japanese creation myth features man and woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p59l4kHuRg&pp=sAQA

Dogon creation myth in ancient Mall (West Africa) features a male and female.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKzVdj5j2Q&pp=sAQA

Hindu creation myth in India feature two gods Brahma and Vishnu duality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KilwnThLk_A&pp=sAQA

The Mayan creation myth in South America feature two gods Tepeu and Gucumatz duality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvZYZaICCk&pp=sAQA

Chinese creation myth mentions duality of Ying and Yang

Norse creation myth mentions duality of Umo and Adumla.

The ancient Egyptian creation myth features Shu and Tetnu, female and male duality, and other dualities within dualities.

Again, the creation duality is featured as man or woman or something else across cultures all over the world.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by budaatum: 9:08pm On Aug 02
musicwriter:


And on that, I acknowledged that it wasn't a good idea after all. But I insist we must see it from the perspective of their time. Secondly, there was no precedent for them to learn from. Everything that has been learned on this earth, they did it FIRST!! Hope you understand.

Fact is, keeping the information they had to themselves allowed that information to die off with them, while Judaism, which was disseminated all over the world has become the accepted 'knowledge' precisely because it was disseminated around the world.

That said, I do forgive them. Their writing was on stone, which really could not easily be transported and read, while Judaism was on papyrus which was easily transported. But even the origin of papyrus must not be missed.

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hxyXkgraII

The Secret History of Writing, Series 1: 1. From Pictures to Words: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000mtmj via @bbciplayer
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 9:17pm On Aug 02
budaatum:


Fact is, keeping the information they had to themselves allowed that information to die off with them, while Judaism, which was disseminated all over the world has become the accepted 'knowledge' precisely because it was disseminated around the world.

That said, I do forgive them. Their writing was on stone, which really could not easily be transported and read, while Judaism was on papyrus which was easily transported. But even the origin of papyrus must not be missed.


Ok, thanks for the documentary. I'll look at it later.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 11:25pm On Aug 02
Below are selected creation stories from different cultures around the world. There are thousands of them, so these are just a few I could find online.

Chinese creation myth- China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkXTBRdYGA

Aztec creation myth- Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW8gRS3GGQM

Koran creation myth- Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaWVSS7uMRg

Babylonian creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXk_StiC8kI

Hindu creation myth- India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KilwnThLk_A

Dogon creation myth- Mali

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKzVdj5j2Q&t

Bible creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaOoWUqqP0

Mayan creation myth- South America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvZYZaICCk

Yoruba creation myth- Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6UuC0aXG0Q

Greek creation myth- Greece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET5I-j2qNYw

Zulu creayion myth- South Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a-FJDc2XQ

Navajo creation myth- native American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgr5TuLF3Nw

Maori creation myth- New Zealand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9YoNVGPSkw

Inca creation myth- Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNPkte3AUz8

Egyptian creation myth- Sudan, Ehiopia, Egypt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B154Cj_zZjE

Norse creation myth- Scandinavia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Samao-doVKE

Sumerian creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZoEMxs1-4

Japanese creation myth- Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p59l4kHuRg

The book of Ra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNQth_kpGk

The book of Ra - is the earliest creation story of the ancient black Egyptians who lived around the river Nile. It is from here and the Dogon creation story that the Bible, Koran, and all other religions and cultures around the world plagiarized their stories from our ancient African ancestors who migrated around the world to occupy and become the many nations in the world today.

It is foreigners and their God that should worship us instead as Africans because we created them!! It is not for us Africans to worship Yahweh or Allah or Jesus. It is incumbent on Yahweh, Allah, Jesus to worship us Africans. But we've been deceived and our power taken away from us during many years of slavery and colonialism. My people, wake up!!

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by The5DME(m): 11:34pm On Aug 02
[quote author=musicwriter post=104367599]Below are selected creation stories from different cultures around the world. There are thousands of them, so these are just a few I could find online.

Chinese creation myth- China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkXTBRdYGA

Aztec creation myth- Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW8gRS3GGQM

Koran creation myth- Arabia0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaWVSS7uMRg

Babylonian creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXk_StiC8kI

Hindu creation myth- India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KilwnThLk_A

Dogon creation myth- Mali

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKzVdj5j2Q&t

Bible creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaOoWUqqP0

Mayan creation myth- South America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvZYZaICCk

Yoruba creation myth- Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6UuC0aXG0Q

Greek creation myth- Greece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET5I-j2qNYw

Zulu creayion myth- South Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a-FJDc2XQ

Navajo creation myth- native American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgr5TuLF3Nw

Maori creation myth- New Zealand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9YoNVGPSkw

Inca creation myth- Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNPkte3AUz8

Egyptian creation myth- Sudan, Ehiopia, Egypt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B154Cj_zZjE

Norse creation myth- Scandinavia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Samao-doVKE

Sumerian creation myth- Mesopotemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZoEMxs1-4

Japanese creation myth- Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p59l4kHuRg

The book of Ra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNQth_kpGk

The book of Ra - is the earliest creation story of the ancient black Egyptians who lived around the river Nile. It is from here and the Dogon creation story that the Bible, Koran, and all other religions and cultures around the world plagiarized their stories from as ancient Africans migrated around the world to occupy and become the many nations in the world today.

It is foreigners and their God that should worship us instead as Africans because we created them!! It is not for us Africans to worship Yahweh or Allah or Jesus. It is incumbent on Yahweh, Allah, Jesus to worship us Africans. But we've been deceived and out power taken away from us during many years of slavery and colonialism. My people, wake up!![/quote

You keep saying "Africa is great" and all that, but I'm still yet to find that greatness being that Africa is home to some of the poorest and technologically underdeveloped people. It's just akin to saying a child is brilliant, yet he keeps getting F's in school.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 12:10am On Aug 03
@The5DME

We weren't always this way.

There was a time black people ruled the world and that was thousands of years ago. But foreigners (Europeans and Arabs) got jealous, came here and destroyed everything we created. You need to study history to understand how so many chains of events led to another and eventually brought us to our present condition. You can begin by listening to the song "I can" by Nas.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 11:08am On Aug 03
musicwriter:
@The5DME

We weren't always this way.

There was a time black people ruled the world and that was thousands of years ago. But foreigners (Europeans and Arabs) got jealous, came here and destroyed everything we created.
'But foreigners (Europeans and Arabs) got jealous' comes across as a very simplistic and bubblegum thing to say

musicwriter:
You need to study history to understand how so many chains of events led to another and eventually brought us to our present condition.
You need to study history to understand that, just as like I earlier mentioned, the fittest of the fittest survive and stay alive

musicwriter:
You can begin by listening to the song "I can" by Nas.
Nas giving out false and inaccurate information with saying:
'Alexander the Great went. He was so shocked at the mountains with black faces. Shot up they nose to impose what basically Still goes on today, you see?'

Look at your struggling and unable to give, again, 'indigenous, to here or localised mythology'
Whether '... sometimes as human beings or something else, sic as you put it, just give me a native one.

I careless about all those far flung creation myth stories you're trying to palm me with, some featuring a man and a woman, when all just what I solicit from you is to table the home-grown talent, give me something native here. I suppose its hard for you to come out with names. Yeah we just have to blame the foreigners (i.e. Europeans and Arabs) who got jealous, and that the excuse for your inability to come up with anything. Give me typical case(s) autochthonal to Nigeria, dont go foreign with me
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by Anas09: 11:16am On Aug 03
BassReeves:
Not what the hell but rather what a demonic paradise the thread will turn in to become!!!!!
And demons paradise is hell na
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by Anas09: 11:22am On Aug 03
musicwriter:


Thanks for reading.

If you read it all it means you actually find it interesting. However, you're not supposed to understand it because it's meant only for adults seeking true knowledge. I made that clear from the beginning.
Interesting? Hahahahahahahahaha. I wanted to get your point, but nothing here.
Guy if this is your dept of knowledge, pls return to school.
Wait, how old are you again?

You are a traumatic child. Listen, right here in this forum, I have read great esoteric minds. Occult men and women, New Agers. Openly proclaimed satanists. Very smart an insightful in their submissions. Compared to them? You never start. Yet, we floored them all.
You be pikin and I can't waste my time on a senseless kid.
Goodday

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 12:08pm On Aug 03
musicwriter:
Thanks for reading.

If you read it all it means you actually find it interesting. However, you're not supposed to understand it because it's meant only for adults seeking true knowledge. I made that clear from the beginning.

Anas09:
Interesting? Hahahahahahahahaha. I wanted to get your point, but nothing here.
Guy if this is your dept of knowledge, pls return to school.
Wait, how old are you again?

You are a traumatic child. Listen, right here in this forum, I have read great esoteric minds. Occult men and women, New Agers. Openly proclaimed satanists. Very smart an insightful in their submissions. Compared to them? You never start. Yet, we floored them all.
You be pikin and I can't waste my time on a senseless kid.
Goodday
Fyi and mind you, OP is a grown arse alpha male in his own right and no spring chicken.

Unnecessary overthinking is the art of creating problems, that even weren't there in the first place. That's reason its advised not to unnecessarily go too deep, as it will lead to the sort of overthinking, that leads to problems, that even weren't there in the first place.

Dont get me wrong, thinking is a sexy, pretty and beautiful thing to do, but as for overthinking, it can end things before they ever get the chance to develop into anything good. Overthinking often leads to negative emotions, energy and thoughts, just we've so far seen displayed on this thread

I now understand the quote, that someone who overthinks, is also someone who overloves. Overthinking when nt checked becomes your worst enemy. There is nothing, in this world that trouble you as much as your own thoughts, especially if they are unguarded thoughts. Case in point, Eve. Some thoughts can be deadly and overthinking, potentially, doesnt just kills, it can destroy who you are. Eve's thought killed her. Overthinking, also is an art, only few can master and without messing themselves up
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 1:33pm On Aug 03
Only the creator ( Chukwu in igbo, Eledumare in yoruba) have the power to create and destroy , condemn and save, create light and darkness...


Any body posing as your saviour is just an imposter or an idol...(including the so called Jesus that the romans created).

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 3:14pm On Aug 03
22jumpstreet:
Only the creator ( Chukwu in igbo, Eledumare in yoruba) have the power to create and destroy, condemn and save, create light and darkness...
You're actually doing a better job than OP, musicwriter, with what you're so far coming out with. Chukwu, is synonymously used with Chineke that creates. The Ch in Chukwu (i.e. chukwu itself means big spirit) is derived from the Chi (i.e. spirit) in Chineke, (i.e. spirit that creates) which for the eagle eyes, they can see a semblance or connection with the Chinese', Chi (i.e. vital life force)

22jumpstreet:
Any body posing as your saviour is just an imposter or an idol...(including the so called Jesus that the romans created).
God, by proxy Yahshua ha'Mashiah, saves
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 7:01pm On Aug 03
BassReeves:
You're actually doing a better job than OP, musicwriter, with what you're so far coming out with. Chukwu, is synonymously used with Chineke that creates. The Ch in Chukwu (i.e. chukwu itself means big spirit) is derived from the Chi (i.e. spirit) in Chineke, (i.e. spirit that creates) which for the eagle eyes, they can see a semblance or connection with the Chinese', Chi (i.e. vital life force)

God, by proxy Yahshua ha'Mashiah, saves

When I say save, I mean from physical danger...
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 7:07pm On Aug 03
22jumpstreet:
When I say save, I mean from physical danger...
I guess you did, be that as it may, when I say 'God, by proxy Yahshua ha'Mashiah, saves' I mean save from eternal destruction and damnation. Why its because He is Yahweh Yireh
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 7:13pm On Aug 03
BassReeves:
I guess you did, be that as it may, when I say 'God, by proxy Yahshua ha'Mashiah, saves' I mean save from eternal destruction and damnation. Why its because He is Yahweh Yireh

I sincerely doubt if the creator created any gas chamber or incinerator for any of his creation. I wonder where you guys get this ideas from?

Man is God's spirt dwelling within a body he fashioned from dust of the earth. When man "dies" it means God has taken his spirit ..the body returns to dust with time...

I wonder who or what God is sending to a gas chamber?
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 7:52pm On Aug 03
22jumpstreet:
I sincerely doubt if the creator created any gas chamber or incinerator for any of his creation. I wonder where you guys get this ideas from?
You have no need for anxiety, if you're any of His creation and so not going to end up there. Fyi, its not even called a gas chamber. It of course is a form of incineration though

22jumpstreet:
Man is God's spirt dwelling within a body he fashioned from dust of the earth ...
Man is a soul, housed in dirt called a body, brought alive by ruach aka breath aka spirit of God.

22jumpstreet:
... When man "dies" it means God has taken his spirit ..the body returns to dust with time.
The life of the flesh is in its blood. The life of the soul is in the spirit. The spirit serves as our conduit for use to connect with God. When the spirit combines with a human brain (i.e. soul), it charges up the spirit man allowing the person to have the spiritual powers of mind.

When man or woman dies, the body returns to the dust with time, but his spirit returns to God (i.e. Ecclesiastes 12:7). Now God safeguards the returning spirit because it has the record of all the man or woman has done in his or her entire life.

22jumpstreet:
I wonder who or what God is sending to a gas chamber?
It would be the same way how you similarly decide, what or what not, goes get thrown into your trash can, to then ultimately end up, at your local refuse dump site, for incineration, after being taken there in a refuse disposal truck.
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 8:30pm On Aug 03
BassReeves:
You have no need for anxiety, if you're any of His creation and so not going to end up there. Fyi, its not even called a gas chamber. It of course is a form of incineration though
Lol.
Psalm104:29-31" send fort your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to dust"..

It like voltron, when the 5 lions combine they form voltron. After defeating Hagers monsters, the lions return to their resting places. Same also is man, when the spirit and the body combines they form a soul.(usually inside a woman's womb) when death occurs the soul ceases to exist. The spirit returns to God and becomes one with it while the body becomes part of the earth.
"God formed man from the DUST of the earth and breathed through his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul."...

Man is a soul, housed in dirt called a body, brought alive by ruach aka breath aka spirit of God.
Exactly what I said above, when man dies, the soul ceases to exist.

the life of the flesh is in its blood. The life of the soul is in the spirit. The spirit serves as our conduit for use to connect with God. When the spirit combines with a human brain (i.e. soul), it charges up the spirit man allowing the person to have the spiritual powers of mind.

It's amazing how you speak of the human brain and spirituality while at the same time believing another man's wife was impregnated by God to sire a son. Didn't your brain tell you that a woman needs a man's sperm to become pregnant. Just like God neded the earth to form man.

When man or woman dies, the body returns to the dust with time, but his spirit returns to God (i.e. Ecclesiastes 12:7). Now God safeguards the returning spirit because it has the record of all the man or woman has done in his or her entire life.

The spirit becomes one with God. Waiting for another opportunity to come to earth if it has not completed its mission. " before you where formed in your mother womb,i knew you."

It would be the same way how you similarly decide what or what not, gets to be thrown into your trash can, to then ultimately end of at your local refuse dump sites for incineration, after being taken there by the refuse disposal trucks

Lol..we are Gods spirit having a human experience, when we die, we go back being God. We become one with God. Just like pouring water into the ocean..
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 9:53pm On Aug 03
22jumpstreet:

Lol..we are Gods spirit having a human experience, when we die, we go back being God. We become one with God. Just like pouring water into the ocean..

That's the absolute truth. And please stop wasting your time further with that guy. He's still trapped in Jesus. Funny enough, when I became HALF awake I was still trapped in Jesus for two years until I realized what a fraud Jesus is.

Again, please don't waste your time any longer talking to anybody who believes in Jesus. They think like babies.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 10:49pm On Aug 03
22jumpstreet:
Lol.
Matthew 13:40-42
'40So just as the weeds are gathered up and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age.
41The Son of Man will send out His angels,
and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend [those things by which people are led into sin],
and all who practice evil [leading others into sin],
42and will throw them into the furnace of fire;
in that place there will be weeping [over sorrow and pain] and grinding of teeth [over distress and anger].
'

Whats the Lol all about? There wouldnt be any Lol going on out there, instead and in place, there will be weeping and gnashing teeth.

22jumpstreet:
Psalm104:29-31" send fort your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to dust".
Genesis 2:7
'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.
'

When God breathed into Adam, through his nose into his body, His Ruach, aka life force passed into body caused it to pant. It is from the panting that the man became a living soul. It essentially was a step on, from being 2 dimensional character on a comic book to becoming a 3 dimensional character in a cartoon strip

22jumpstreet:
It like voltron, when the 5 lions combine they form voltron. After defeating Hagers monsters, the lions return to their resting places. Same also is man, when the spirit and the body combines they form a soul.(usually inside a woman's womb) when death occurs the soul ceases to exist. The spirit returns to God and becomes one with it while the body becomes part of the earth.
"God formed man from the DUST of the earth and breathed through his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul."...
You comparing a mindless robot machine from an animated television series with an intelligent, interesting, thoughtful, mind boggling, formidable, impressive and powerful Supreme Being called God. Hmm?

Of course, upon expiring of the man, when the Owner of the breath requires it back, it returns back, leaving the man or woman dropping dead. The returned spirit, among other things, serves as a hard drive or memory bank, saving all records of what the dead man or woman had been up to when alive, in the land of the living.

22jumpstreet:
Exactly what I said above, when man dies, the soul ceases to exist.
Correctly put, when man dies, the soul ceases to exist, only in the land of the living, it is very much, after cross over, continues existing, in the land of dead

22jumpstreet:
It's amazing how you speak of the human brain and spirituality while at the same time believing another man's wife was impregnated by God to sire a son.
Its amazing thing to understand how the body, spirit and soul have different faculties, where the Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, to see, via the eyes, hear, via the ears, feel, via applicable part of the body, smell, via the nose and taste, via the mouth, then the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition (i.e. super consciousness) faculties with the Soul faculties, being made up of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions. It is super consciousness that will permit you to grasps how an incorporeal Being pulled off becoming God Incarnate

22jumpstreet:
Didn't your brain tell you that a woman needs a man's sperm to become pregnant. Just like God neded the earth to form man.
So you now, want to go personal. You want to go dirty, you want to play in the gutter, you want to fling dirty water about. You cant manage discussing in a matured, courteous and mutual respect manner. No problem, as I suppose, two can play that your game, but I am not going to join in yet as I am watching to see if you'll continue with the same attitude of mind.

Now, if you're equipped enough and be able to explain, how a menopause and impotent couple were able to give birth to the promised child when well advanced in age, then you'll get an ah ha moment and arrive at the answer to your flippant remark, that's betraying a confused state of the mind

22jumpstreet:
The spirit becomes one with God. Waiting for another opportunity to come to earth if it has not completed its mission. " before you where formed in your mother womb, i knew you."

Lol..we are Gods spirit having a human experience, when we die, we go back being God. We become one with God. Just like pouring water into the ocean.
.
Hebrews 9:27
'And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once and after this [comes certain] judgment,'

People die once. In fact, everyone dies once, and after that comes judgment, to be judged by God.
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 10:49pm On Aug 03
musicwriter:
That's the absolute truth. And please stop wasting your time further with that guy.
The trouble for you is, you think you have time

musicwriter:
He's still trapped in Jesus. Funny enough, when I became HALF awake I was still trapped in Jesus for two years until I realized what a fraud Jesus is ...
I believe in God, who by proxy Yahshua ha'Mashiah, saves.

musicwriter:
... Again, please don't waste your time any longer talking to anybody who believes in Jesus. They think like babies.
Matthew 18:3
'Then He said to them,
"I can guarantee this truth:
Unless you change and become like little children (i.e. babies),
you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
'

Insults, name calling, abusive languages etc are the argument employed by those who are in wrong. The moment someone like you, who it seems I have misjudged, needs to resort to regarding another person with contempt and/or disrespect then it means you do so because you're caught flatfooted. Look at you still unable to honour my humble give me an 'indigenous, to here or localised mythology' request
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by GardenOfGod(m): 1:36am On Aug 04
musicwriter:
The whole lie about Satan began from a misunderstanding by Hellenized Jews (European Jews) of the Adam and Eve and Satan story in bible book of Genesis. That story is an allegory and it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

In one such African mythology, the story goes that a king wanted his daughter to get married but the condition given by the king was that whoever would marry the daughter must bring an elephant to his (the king's) palace

The wise tortoise heard about it (the tortoise is always wise) and was able to trick his friend the elephant to the king's palace by telling the elephant that the king has invited him (the elephant) to be the chairman of an important occasion in the town. The elephant was very excited.

A date was set and the tortoise and the elephant arrived the king's palace, only for the tortoise to tell the king "this is the elephant I've brought to marry your daughter." And that's how the tortoise married the most beautiful girl in the land.

This story is not to be taken literally. It isn't an actual event but a story told to teach something. And the lesson is that YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL BECAUSE EVEN YOUR FRIEND CAN BETRAY YOU.

There was no king.
There was no elephant.
There was no daughter.
There was no tortoise.


It's just an allegory used to teach something.

So is the creation story in the bible book of Genesis. We all have read how a God created Adam and Eve and they lived peacefully in the garden of Eden where Satan deceived Eve.

That story is not mean to be taken literally.

There was no Adam.
There was no Eve
There was no Satan
There was no God
There was no fruit
There was no garden of Eden




Your Contradiction.... Evident!

budaatum:
when we shall become able to critically analyse the Biblical creation myth without beliefs blinding us from so doing.

Lived as ignorant naked slaves more like, until use her own senses Eve decided to critically analyse what Adam believed, only to find she did not surely die on the day that she ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, since knowledge does not kill.

Instead, her eyes opened; she and Adam were freed from slavery and became self employed on their own land where they lived for 800 or so years during which they went on to populate the earth with billions of human beings, some of whom are today on the way to rule over Mars and Jupiter and Uranus!

https://www.nairaland.com/6389881/god-dead-god-alive-praise/2#102483429

That last bit, however, music, "where Satan deceived Eve". Who was deceiving whom in that story? Did Eve die, or did her eyes open as the serpent said they would?

Adhering to your instructions, I tried to use my mature brain to analyse your thesis and commentaries on some teachings of the Bible, especially the story of Adam and Eve.
At first you submitted that the entire story was "an allegory and it wasn't meant to be taken literally".
You continue by illustrating the story of the King, his daughter, elephant and tortoises. Saying, just like the story wasn't a real story, so was the story of Adam and Eve. In conclusion you said that "There was no Adam.
There was no Eve
There was no Satan
There was no God
There was no fruit
There was no garden of Eden"

However, in your second attempt to analyse your thesis further, you committed a blunder. Utterly contradict your first position by giving your own version of a story you earlier said never existed. A story you was just a mere allegory and not literal. But you have told your own literal meaning of it.
How ridiculous!

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by musicwriter(m): 7:30am On Aug 04
GardenOfGod:



Your Contradiction.... Evident!



Adhering to your instructions, I tried to use my mature brain to analyse your thesis and commentaries on some teachings of the Bible, especially the story of Adam and Eve.
At first you submitted that the entire story was "an allegory and it wasn't meant to be taken literally".
You continue by illustrating the story of the King, his daughter, elephant and tortoises. Saying, just like the story wasn't a real story, so was the story of Adam and Eve. In conclusion you said that "There was no Adam.
There was no Eve
There was no Satan
There was no God
There was no fruit
There was no garden of Eden"

However, in your second attempt to analyse your thesis further, you committed a blunder. Utterly contradict your first position by giving your own version of a story you earlier said never existed. A story you was just a mere allegory and not literal. But you have told your own literal meaning of it.
How ridiculous!

My brother, I made it clear this thread is for those half awake or already awake looking for further information. You cannot be a Christian and understand the bible or spirituality because the moment you do, you'll quit.

Even the analysis I gave are also not literal but I still have to use language to explain it because there's no way to by-pass language and tell you something unless I'll just show you a picture or have you touch something or smell something or taste something. Those are the only way in nature to avoid allegorical metaphor.

If your bible creation story is literal, let me know what makes the Chinese, Yoruba, Indian, South African, Maori, Norse, Indonesian, Japanese, etc creation stories not literal too.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by GardenOfGod(m): 8:49am On Aug 04
musicwriter:


My brother, I made it clear this thread is for those half awake or already awake looking for further information. You cannot be a Christian and understand the bible or spirituality because the moment you do, you'll quit.

Even the analysis I gave are also not literal but I still have to use language to explain it because there's no way to by-pass language and tell you something unless I'll just show you a picture or have you touch something or smell something or taste something. Those are the only way in nature to avoid allegorical metaphor.

If your bible creation story is literal, let me know what makes the Chinese, Yoruba, Indian, South African, Maori, Norse, Indonesian, Japanese, etc creation stories not literal too.
You should be able to respond to questions with open mind and not trying to defend your theory. Answer questions as it is asked and not be reacting as if you are bearing grudges with your readers. Look at my question again and respond appropriately.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by HellVictorinho(m): 8:52am On Aug 04
musicwriter:


You're entitled to your opinion. But the information I posted isn't meant for everyone because not everyone is awake enough to understand what I wrote. I've said it many times that it's meant only for adults seeking true knowledge.

There's nothing to understand in what you posted despite your invalid claim to be awake.


So, you keep repeating things in vain like budaatum.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by HellVictorinho(m): 8:54am On Aug 04
GardenOfGod:

You should be able to respond to questions with open mind and not trying to defend your theory. Answer questions as it is asked and not be reacting as if you are bearing grudges with your readers. Look at my question again and respond appropriately.


That guy is a waste of time

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 9:00am On Aug 04
musicwriter:


That's the absolute truth. And please stop wasting your time further with that guy. He's still trapped in Jesus. Funny enough, when I became HALF awake I was still trapped in Jesus for two years until I realized what a fraud Jesus is.

Again, please don't waste your time any longer talking to anybody who believes in Jesus. They think like babies.


That's a fact actually..
Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by HellVictorinho(m): 9:17am On Aug 04
22jumpstreet:




That's a fact actually..


You are wasting your time with that guy


People like him and budaatum are addicted to repeating things in vain


I can easily and similarly say that Allah is my mother but some people are not intelligent enough to understand.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by 22jumpstreet: 10:25am On Aug 04
musicwriter:


That's the absolute truth. And please stop wasting your time further with that guy. He's still trapped in Jesus. Funny enough, when I became HALF awake I was still trapped in Jesus for two years until I realized what a fraud Jesus is.

Again, please don't waste your time any longer talking to anybody who believes in Jesus. They think like babies.

The truth of the matter is that you take them from the beginning of show them that there was never any need for the Jesus character, whether they understand you or not, they will still find a way to bring him to the discussion. I have been singing from the top of my voice that he is just a Roman/Greek creation. There is no where in the entire Tanakh that God or any prophet claimed that God was going to have a son by impregnating a human woman to sacrifice his life as a Ransome. No where. But they have refused to remove their Jesus glasses. They want to hold on to absurdities...

The thing just tire me.

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Re: Only Satan Shall Set You Free. What's Satan? by BassReeves: 11:23am On Aug 04
HellVictorinho:
You are wasting your time with that guy

People like him and budaatum are addicted to repeating things in vain

I can easily and similarly say that Allah is my mother but some people are not intelligent enough to understand.
The trio, thats including the 22jumpstreet guy havent got a Scooby Doo idea.

So you too have noticed how addicted all three are, to repeating things in vain. Easy, simple and straightforward I asked OP, musicwriter, to share all he came up with is 'foreigners (Europeans and Arabs) got jealous, came here and destroyed everything we created.' Before that the first Woman was called Eva, but when he was asked, why was she called Eva? Who called her or gave her the name Eva?, he clammed up, resorting to belittling people calling them babies and all sorts

I posited to 22jumpstreet that if 22jumpstreet is equipped enough and be able to explain, how a menopause and impotent couple were able to give birth to the promised child when well advanced in age, then 22jumpstreet will get an ah ha moment and arrive at the answer to the 22jumpstreet flippant remark(s), that's betraying a confused state of the mind, but hey ...

Once you know what Adam represented, talking in terms of being a prototype, then you'll understand, not only the significance for the reason of another one, but also be able to relate with the varying dynamics, levels, processes, journeys to arrive at that salvation place or destination

You know what they say. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. It rings true, so, I reiterate God, by proxy, Yahshua ha'Mashiah, God Incarnate, saves.

You know what they say. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself

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