yanabasee1:


We do... But because of the rot in the system... Nobody's willing to step on toes to set things right...

There are people holding Buhari on his balls that he can't dare them... There are people that the Vice president is loyal to, who gave him the privilege to become what he is today and so he wouldn't dare them...

We just need someone that will be bold enough to restructure this country....


I am not a fan of Tinubu, but I believe that if he becomes the pre6today... he will restructure this country... so that he'd be able to have control of the SW...

Bobo! Tinubu will restructure Nigeria!
What a joke?

Instead of him promising to protect the right of nigerian citizens he is their promising heaven and earth as if he is the God or the constutions that provide

do anyone no the right of a nigerian citizen
pls do share

Penguin2:


You are right!

But would you blame us? Imagine choosing to vote Moghalu in the last election, that would only but widen the victory prospects of APC or whichever party in power who would always deploy all arsenal of government to rig themselves to power.

Imagine where results of parties that have their agents at the polling unit is rewritten, how much more a party without an agent at the polling unit.

Another huge factor is ethno-religious sentiments of voters with large chunk of these voters coming from illiterate north, don’t blame parties who choose candidates who appeal to their emotions rather than their brains.

Forget, our problem multi-faceted.

If everyone or at least majority vote based on issues, would there be any fear of widening the APC victory gap through voting for Moghalu?
Even the blame about the party rigging machinery you talk about still falls back on the followership because it is not the politicians of the parties that come out to do rigging but the voters themselves in exchange for gifts. Have you ever seen a politician carry a gun to disrupt voting in any election?
We have had examples in some states where voters took a principled stance against rigging by the party in power and succeed. Why can't Nigerians do so across all states of the federation for an obviously potentially good candidate if they sincerely desire a more result-oriented government?
I would disagree with your postulation that Northerners are more responsible for voting based on ethnoreligious sentiments than the South because in 1999 the SE and my own SS gave a combined higher percentage total votes on state by state basis to Obasanjo who was himself the candidate presented by the supposedly illiterate North and presented no manifesto, over the Falae who was the candidate of one of the regions of the more educated South and had a pragmatic manifesto. Then in 2003, Ojukwu, a long time graduate of the prestigious Oxford University and who was armed with the best and most practically realistic manifesto, couldn't even get convincingly voted by his own equally well educated South Eastern brothers let alone other regions. His attempt again in 2007 had the same outcome. So ethnoreligious and primordial sentiments are a general Nigerian disease regardless of level of literacy.

9jaRealist:


So-called “resource control” is NOT substantive restructuring…
Unless you merely mean restructuring the LOOTING from Abuja to state capitals.
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It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Deadlytruth:
If everyone or at least majority vote based on issues, would there be any fear of widening the APC victory gap through voting for Moghalu?
Even the blame about the party rigging machinery you talk about still falls back on the followership because it is not the politicians of the parties that come out to do rigging but the voters themselves in exchange for gifts. Have you ever seen a politician carry a gun to disrupt voting in any election?
We have had examples in some states where voters took a principled stance against rigging by the party in power and succeed. Why can't Nigerians do so across all states of the federation for an obviously potentially good candidate if they sincerely desire a more result-oriented government?
I would disagree with your postulation that Northerners are more responsible for voting based on ethnoreligious sentiments than the South because in 1999 the SE and my own SS gave a combined higher percentage total votes on state by state basis to Obasanjo who was himself the candidate presented by the supposedly illiterate North and presented no manifesto, over the Falae who was the candidate of one of the regions of the more educated South and had a pragmatic manifesto. Then in 2003, Ojukwu, a long time graduate of the prestigious Oxford University and who was armed with the best and most practically realistic manifesto, couldn't even get convincingly voted by his own equally well educated South Eastern brothers let alone other regions. His attempt again in 2007 had the same outcome. So ethnoreligious and primordial sentiments are a general Nigerian disease regardless of level of literacy.

Ever heard of the Tyranny of the Majority?

We have a majority of the Nigerian populace who are not informed nor quite educated.

It will be a Herculean task trying to explain to this people how Moghalu for instance was a former deputy governor of the Central Bank and has better manifesto on what can work for Nigeria while Buhari can’t find the NEPA Bill we asked him to bring in place of certificate or how Atiku is just another crook who contributed in the mess Nigeria finds itself now.

There’s something called psychology of Association. The greater percentage of these guys are already associated with APC and PDP so that what you can do as an informed member of the society is to help shepherd them towards the party with the lesser evil as a candidate.

Do you know the amount of money it would take to run television ads, radio jingles, road shows and rallies that would inform the entire population of voters nationwide that there’s a certain YDP and what its logo looks like? Does Moghalu or his party have such money?

Go to the rural areas of Nsukka in Enugu, Abakaliki in Ebonyi, Bichi in Kano, Ogbomoso in Oyo, ask the rural dwellers there how many parties are in Nigeria and know how many of them know anything beyond APC and PDP.

Deadlytruth:

It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Lol! The way you just opened my eyes about resource control eh, it just seems that resource control is the only thing we need to do to set everything else aright.

Because when poor states start to seek way to generate revenue from every possible way, it will increase production.

No illiterate would wanna become a governor since it will no longer be a funny venture.

Taxation will be enthroned. And with taxation will come more demand for accountability from taxpayers.

There will be no more subsidy which will increase foreign direct investment because investors know they will be selling their services for the price it’s worth.

No region, especially poor ones, will be agitating for state creation anymore especially when they have seen that existing ones are having it tough.

Seems Resource Control is the answer to 70 percent of Nigeria’s problem.

Thank you for opening my eyes further on the discourse.

We will ensure its implementation. If not today, then tomorrow.

Penguin2:


Lol! The way you just opened my eyes about resource control eh, it just seems that resource control is the only thing we need to do to set everything else aright.

Because when poor states start to seek way to generate revenue from every possible way, it will increase production.

No illiterate would wanna become a governor since it will no longer be a funny venture.

Taxation will be enthroned. And with taxation will come more demand for accountability from taxpayers.

There will be no more subsidy which will increase foreign direct investment because investors know they will be selling their services for the price it’s worth.

No region, especially poor ones, will be agitating for state creation anymore especially when they have seen that existing ones are having it tough.

Seems Resource Control is the answer to 70 percent of Nigeria’s problem.

Thank you for opening my eyes further on the discourse.

We will ensure its implementation. If not today, then tomorrow.

Thanks for the acknowledgement. I actually don't frequently discuss Nigeria's problems because most analysts don't seem to understand that all the ills of Nigeria, be it insecurity, poor healthcare delivery, unemployment, electoral malpractices, tribalism, nepotism, favouritism, unbridled corruption, terrorism, political thuggery, etc are all fundamentally connected to the faulty centripetal structure we operate. All governments from 1999 till the present one have failed mostly due to the fact that each of them tried to treat selected national challenges in isolation of others whereas only a holistic approach which only resource control guarantees will address most of these challenges organically and systematically.

Penguin2:


Ever heard of the Tyranny of the Majority?

We have a majority of the Nigerian populace who are not informed nor quite educated.

It will be a Herculean task trying to explain to this people how Moghalu for instance was a former deputy governor of the Central Bank and has better manifesto on what can work for Nigeria while Buhari can’t find the NEPA Bill we asked him to bring in place of certificate or how Atiku is just another crook who contributed in the mess Nigeria finds itself now.

There’s something called psychology of Association. The greater percentage of these guys are already associated with APC and PDP so that what you can do as an informed member of the society is to help shepherd them towards the party with the lesser evil as a candidate.

Do you know the amount of money it would take to run television ads, radio jingles, road shows and rallies that would inform the entire population of voters nationwide that there’s a certain YDP and what its logo looks like? Does Moghalu or his party have such money?

Go to the rural areas of Nsukka in Enugu, Abakaliki in Ebonyi, Bichi in Kano, Ogbomoso in Oyo, ask the rural dwellers there how many parties are in Nigeria and know how many of them know anything beyond APC and PDP.

You have some point Anyway. But what of a state like Anambra where they consistently reject these two big parties for APGA which throws up candidates from the corporate sector? Aren't there rural areas in that state? What of Edo State where majority ditched the big two (PDP and ANPP) and opted for a relatively unknown AC back then all due to Oshiomhole's labour activism credentials and quality of his campaigns as at that moment in time? What of Ondo State where they opted for Olusegun Mimiko on account of his track record despite he didn't emerge through either PDP or ANPP? The victory of David Lyon in Bayelsa which was annuled by the Supreme Court was based on his personality than on his party. With these examples you can easily deduce that at state level Nigerians could do away with sentiments and vote based on issues but once it gets to presidential election they give up issues for ethnoreligious and primordial sentiments. Why?

Deadlytruth:

It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Dude, it was you who “isolated” resource control….
And thus I highlighted and addressed it SPECIFICALLY.

Not everyone has time for a dissertation on Nairaland…
Suffice it to note that GOOD GOVERNANCE does not require restructuring first.

Restructuring is NOT a silver bullet…
And if these folks are incapable of good governance now, it won’t change much!
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Deadlytruth:

It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

The IRONY of your dissertation is that restructuring was NOT needed to create the LCDAs…
The only thing states CANNOT do is create LGAs because it requires a constitutional amendment (which is eediotic btw).

Meanwhile, some might point out that even with the LCDAs, the state government is still primarily responsible for practical all development in Lagos State - including basics like building/rehabilitating inner streets, patching up portholes on local streets (through LSPWC), primary healthcare centers, neighborhood skill development and recreational centers and facilities, social housing, primary and secondary schools, garbage disposal and waste management (through LAWMA), gutters and canals, streetlights, neighborhood watch (through LNSC), parks and greenery (through LASPARK), among other basically LOCAL governance responsibilities. Leaves rational people pondering what exactly these LCDAs do (perhaps other than providing jobs and perks for politicians and their Agberos). But let’s continue to fixate over the shadow of “restructuring” instead of concentrating the substance of good governance.
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Deadlytruth:

It is quite funny that you isolated resource control from all other elements of restructuring I mentioned e.g. LCDAs among other Lagos State centripetal policies I hinted at.
Secondly, the massive looting at Abuja is actually made possible by the presence there of a huge centralized purse courtesy of the current system. But on the contrary, resource control will actually reduce looting considering the fact that what will be available at each state will be at an average of one thirty sixth of what you presently have concentrated in Abuja so there will be less available to loot. Moreover, resource control will awaken the residents of all states to their responsibility of constantly demanding accountably from their governors and commissioners as the revenues in their states will come from their own sweat rather than as manna from Abuja. With resource control a lot of non-viable local government areas especially in the North will collapse and falsification of census figures will become unnecessary hence die a natural death. All these endless agitation for creation of more states will end once it becomes a law that each state will run her own affairs with funds generated from within her domains hence it will no longer be an issue of social injustice for the North to have 19 states against the South's 17 and that is if some Northern States don't collapse into others. Then with a leaner central purse courtesy of resource control, the federal government will be forced to stop contemplating crazy and wasteful policies like amnesty package for militans, bandits and terrorists; sponsoring of religious pilgrimages; tradermoni largesse; subsidy payments for importation of refined petroleum products and edibles like rice, chicken, and others; there will no longer enough funds to sustain the jumbo allowance of senators and representatives thus politics will become unattractive to political investors and therefore become a venture for accomplished veterans in different fields who will bring their professional experiences to bear on legislative business. Each state government will have no option than to look inwards into untapped resources in their respective states. Political investors will therefore be forced to invest in the real sector to the effect of stimulating productivity towards diversification thus reversing our net importer situation which is responsible for the ever falling value of the Naira to all other world currencies. All this will birth a new socio-economic order where every pay is earned as against the current one which encourages entitlement mentality, rent seeking, laziness, political thuggery, propensity towards TV shows like BB Naija, etc.
Positions like yours over this resource control question usually come from people who don't see the bigger picture.

Btw, James Ibori (and there are many others) did NOT have to go to Abuja to LOOT massively…
The notion that “resource control” (so-called, instead of loot reallocation) would magically increase accountability is delusional.
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9jaRealist:


Btw, James Ibori (and there are many others) did NOT have to go to Abuja to LOOT massively…
The notion that “resource control” (so-called, instead of loot reallocation) would magically increase accountability is delusional.
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Can you compare what Ibori looted in Delta with that looted in Abuja by the likes of Diezani, Dasuki, Dokpesi, together with all the largesse shared by the Jonathan presidency in the build up to 2015 election? Can any individual state governor afford to bribe his state's house of assembly with the quantum of cash that Obasanjo deployed for his third term agenda pursuit?
And mind you that the looting in Abuja is sustained by the continued flow of crude oil revenues. Once this alternative energy thing becomes a full reality and crude oil revenue becomes nearly zero, will the FG force the non-crude oil producing states to hand over to the center the revenues they will be generating through taxation of their state residents, harnessing of their other local natural and human resources?
It is under unitary system that accountability is delusional hence the absence of it right now under this present structure.

9jaRealist:


The IRONY of your dissertation is that restructuring was NOT needed to create the LCDAs…
The only thing states CANNOT do is create LGAs because it requires a constitutional amendment (which is eediotic btw).

Meanwhile, some might point out that even with the LCDAs, the state government is still primarily responsible for practical all development in Lagos State - including basics like building/rehabilitating inner streets, patching up portholes on local streets (through LSPWC), primary healthcare centers, neighborhood skill development and recreational centers and facilities, social housing, primary and secondary schools, garbage disposal and waste management (through LAWMA), gutters and canals, streetlights, neighborhood watch (through LNSC), parks and greenery (through LASPARK), among other basically LOCAL governance responsibilities. Leaves rational people pondering what exactly these LCDAs do (perhaps other than providing jobs and perks for politicians and their Agberos). But let’s continue to fixate over the shadow of “restructuring” instead of concentrating the substance of good governance.
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And you forgot that the LCDAs creation wasn't the original idea but only came to be what the Lagos State had to settled for after the Supreme Court invoked relevant parts of the unitary constitution to overrule the actual LGAs created originally. It is actually eediotic to believe that constitutional amendment is not possible in favour of states having the power to create their own LGAs without recourse to approval by the National Assembly.

And in what ways exactly are theLGAs in states without LCDAs different from Lagos LCDAs in functional redundancy? If your argument is to be extended, then we wouldn't need even states since the governors aren't accountable. In fact we wouldn't even need a country since the presidency is not accountable. We would just rather have the whole of Africa as just one country to be governed from the capital without any subnational units and that will guarantee good governance? How delusional!

9jaRealist:


Dude, it was you who “isolated” resource control….
And thus I highlighted and addressed it SPECIFICALLY.

Not everyone has time for a dissertation on Nairaland…
Suffice it to note that GOOD GOVERNANCE does not require restructuring first.

Restructuring is NOT a silver bullet…
And if these folks are incapable of good governance now, it won’t change much!
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No. You it was who decided to isolate resource control obviously because you are an apostle of unitary system.
If good governance doesn't require restructuring, then how come you have never been able to get it again since 1966 when the military introduced the present structure? The only era which Nigerians are unanimous in reminiscing about as regards good governance and satisfactory progress was the 1960 to 1966 era which was founded on a decentralized arrangement. Were the politicians of that era saints?