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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 11:50am On Sep 21, 2018 |
homesteady:This is not true of Rakitic, at Sevilla, he was the creative force, he has had to adapt tp the role expected of him at Barcelona, the coach can't keep playing him if he is not delivering according to the game plan... |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Coutinho14: 1:26pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
wicked Ororo 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Coutinho14: 1:27pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
beardless Leo is back! 6 Likes
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 1:32pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Suarez was a scoring force at Liverpool and he has had to adapt to the barca style, the coach has been playing him and he has been delivering according to the game plan. orisirisi |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Sommyroy10: 1:36pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
homesteady:Not true. A bleacher report article prior to Rakitic's transfer to Barca and Wikipedia (stats when he was at Sevilla)
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Avraham: 2:12pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Coutinho14:He should try remove the tattoos |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 2:53pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Enough said. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 3:20pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Messi has gone back to this face. 2 Likes
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 3:24pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: The role is bringing balance or more like doing dirty work on the right side, which he is doing well and everybody agrees with this. But like I said in my previous post, we are always in possession of the ball, which automatically means we have less chasing after balls to do, therefore, his creative side should be more on display. But sadly no. He hardly does any innovative or risky thing to aid our offense, except his long distance shots. Yes we want him to continue to bring solidity to that right side, but he also needs to add more elements to him game, which is the advantage other top club midfielders have over ours. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 3:41pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
femiti:I hope you're not looking at Suarez and thinking he should be acoring like Messi? He has been great for Barcelona and currently he is on the decline ao your point about his days at Liverpool doesn't hold water... |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Excallibur(m): 3:46pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Excallibur(m): 3:47pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
jonsnow92:NOOOOOOO!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 3:51pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
I think most folks here don't understand what some of us imply when we say Rakitic has been doing a great job for the team albeit one that isn't aesthetically pleasant on the eye... If you want him to play like Xavi or offer more in attack then you must know this, Barcelona doesn't have a RW as Messi is fond of drifting into the AM position thus Roberto is left exposed everytime a team attacks through the right of Barcelona's defense where you have a slow Roberto, slow Pique (age factor and a Messi that doesn't really track back)...Now this is where Rakitic is a necessity... On the left of the team, you have a Dembele who does a lot of tracking back and who has pace to burn, you also have Alba who is very fast and covering up for him is Umtiti who is one of the fastest CBs around thus you don't have same defensive burden placed on Coutinho... When Xavi was in that Midfield, you had a much younger Busi in midfield who covered so much distance on the pitch, you also had a younger Alves and a Pique who was very much on top his game thus the midfield didn't have the responsibility of always covering up for Alves as Pique and Busi did so with aplomb... I expect a fan who watches most of gis team's games to know these... 2 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Excallibur(m): 3:58pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
We are talking about a player with the highest number of completed passes in laliga last season... |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 3:59pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Now let's compare stats of Modric and Rakitic for last season. (Screenshot below) I'm using Modric because he plays almost the same role with Rakitic. - From the stats, You can see how Modric destroys Rakitic in offensive contributions. - You can also see Modric defensive contribution, which is quite similar to Rakitic contribution, except unsurprisingly aerial duels. he even makes more interceptions and tackles than Rakitic. This just sums my problem with Rakitic.
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 4:11pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Nobody is disputing this, and we all know this is the reason why Rakitic is important. But I've said this many times here - We are almost always in total control of the ball, with the opponent only getting few brief spells, therefore that right wing is not constantly under attack. The periods when we have the ball, which is the case in most games, what special thing does Rakitic do to help the attack? |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 4:21pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Modric plays on the right side of Madrid midfield 3 in the right side of attack, you have Bale or Vasquez who do a good job tracking back, in defense, you have Carvajal and Varane covering up, you can'tcompare that to Messi who hardly tracks back, Roberto who is a midfielder playing RB and an aging Pique. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 4:32pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
still looks the same,doesn't age
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 5:57pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
So i just re-watched the 4th goal against PSV, that's messi's 3rd goal, All 10 players(including Ter Stegen) touched the ball with Umtiti sent off, 22 touches all in 60 seconds with the move resulting in a goal. it was glorious. Frankly I wish we can see more of this, This is the season EV should be judged with. 3 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 5:59pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
MJBOLT:dippset always says Messi would pray till he's 37, i honestly wish and pray it happens. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 6:00pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Excallibur:Lol, i preferred the Lion bearded kinda look though. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 6:19pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
I'm hoping he plays till 40 jonsnow92: |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:24pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: But rakitic has been peak xavi right?...he is been so good to the extent that the coach keeps playing him just as the "declining" Suarez has been playing too. What point are you trying to make ffs? |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 6:26pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
femiti:You can skip my post...Thanks |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:49pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 6:51pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
homesteady:I don't even think you understand what you are saying or posting. You were saying one thing and yet posting something else which entirely supports our point. Check the: -Total forward passes. - Total Chances created. - Successful passes. - Key passes. - Assists... Rakitic trumps in all against Modric using what you posted. So, exactly what are you even saying? 2 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 7:13pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: From the stats I posted, Modric defensive contribution isn't far off from Rakitic contribution. In two major defensive stats - Interception and tackles won, Modric even had better stats. As you rightly said, the Madrid right side is more fortified than Barcelona's, yet we still see Modric posting almost similar defensive stats with Rakitic who is supposed to be guarding Barcelona's weaker right side. This just proves my point that Rakitic doesn't spend a significant period of time defending as you guys are assuming. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 7:16pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
philfearon: Are we looking at the same stats I posted? Besides Barcelona plays more of possession, so it should be expected that Rakitic have more passes than Modric. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 7:17pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
homesteady:Stats doesn't really tell the story in this case, I hope Rakitic misses a couple of games and let's see how the team fares without him... 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by LethargiQue: 7:20pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
Coutinho14: I hope the world is ready to be blown |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 8:17pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
patrickmuf: This is not the case of them Hazard and Co where the stats don't really tell the story. Modric is one workhorse that always amazes me! Despite his age, that guy still chases after the ball. That's why I've been using him as an example since. One reason I think Rakitic have refused to improve his game is because there has been no real competition for his spot for a while now. I just hope Arthur comes good, then we'd realise what we've been missing. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 8:53pm On Sep 21, 2018 |
homesteady:I'm guessing Tiki taka plays itself!!! 1 Like |
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