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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:12pm On Sep 16
Another claim of the Watchtower Society about their New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible) is that it is pure and consistent:
In presenting this translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures our confidence has been in the help of the great Author of The Book. Our primary desire has been to seek, not the approval of men, but that of God, by rendering the truth of his inspired Word as purely and as consistently as our consecrated powers make possible.(9)

But when we check the Greek word translated worship when used for Jesus, it is rendered obeisance, but worship at other times! As previously shown, we see an attack on the identity of the Lord. Where exactly did the New World Translation inconsistently translate the Greek word meaning worship?
In Mt. 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 28:17 the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus.

The same inconsistency is shown at Jn. 9:38 and Mk.5:6. It is translated obeisance when referring to Jesus, but worship at Heb. 11:21 when it doesn't refer to Jesus.

Moreover, the same Greek word is found at Mt. 2:2; Rev. 22:8 and Rev. 19:10. At Mt. 2:2, when Jesus is the recipient, obeisance is again used, but in the other two Scriptures, when the Lord is not the recipient, worship is found! Jesus was worshiped in Scripture by Christians, but the Jehovah's Witnesses aren't allowed to worship him!

JW before believe that Jesus should be worshiped

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by haddeylium(m): 9:48pm On Sep 16
Bishopkingsley:


Quote
You've spent so much time speaking about them

I did check it and I discovered that you're obsessed with them cheesy
There are more than 42,000 christian denomination with contradictory doctrines .
You singled out only Jehovah's witnesses church to the false one
This could only be LOVE. Admit it you're in love with them.
Unless you want to prove me otherwise by naming your church cheesy
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:03pm On Sep 16
haddeylium:

I did check it and I discovered that you're obsessed with them cheesy
There are more than 42,000 christian denomination with contradictory doctrines .
You singled out only Jehovah's witnesses church to the false one
This could only be LOVE. Admit it you're in love with them.
Unless you want to prove me otherwise by naming your church cheesy

Majority of Christian organizations
Believe in the Trinity

This trinity is the foundation of the Christian faith

How can I love JW when Bible shows how they twist their own Bible called new world translation
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by haddeylium(m): 10:25pm On Sep 16
Bishopkingsley:


Majority of Christian organizations
Believe in the Trinity
This trinity is my the foundation of the Christian faith
Genuine christians base their faith on what Jesus said it's going to earn them everlasting life .
John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.



How can I love JW when Bible shows how they twist their own Bible called new world translation
42,000 denomination and you chose them.
See love

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:02am On Sep 17
haddeylium:

Genuine christians base their faith on what Jesus said it's going to earn them everlasting life .
John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.




42,000 denomination and you chose them.
See love

Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Jesus equally point out which name not names note
Jesus said the only name one name to do the things of God with which is

The Father
The son
The holy spirit

Jesus already said Jehovah is in me and I am in Jehovah

John 14:11 ►
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

New Living Translation
Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do

I know you love me so much since you doubt my teaching which Is from God that why you come back to refute it because you love me Right
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10am On Sep 17
So in a nutshell you're saying Jehovah is your God. Right?

If so then we have no issues with you since you acknowledge JEHOVAH as God {Mark 12:29} and do you also acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God? Matthew 16:13-19

If you do then we are on the same page! smiley

Bishopkingsley:


JW teaches rightly that God’s name is Jehovah and should be worshiped , but they teach wrongly that Jesus is not Jehovah and they say he should not be worshiped that he is , not God.

Thus, they do not witness to the true Jehovah, the great Three-in-One described in Scripture, but rather to a Jehovah constructed from a misunderstanding of the Bible and from their own thinking. Their New World “Translation” changes key verses showing Jesus is Jehovah, one with the Father.

Let look at the dishonesty of this mistranslation in the new world translation and the difficulty of trying to speak about the Lord Jesus to someone in this seven men organization JW because of it.

But we also saw that even their “version” shows Jesus as THE one true Shepherd, the owner of the sheep — and also shows Jehovah as the true Shepherd, thus demonstrating that Jesus is Jehovah.

In part two we looked at Psalm 110 in the New World “Translation,” which says that Jesus, on the throne with the Father, is “at the right hand” but in verse five names the One at the right hand as Jehovah. Thus, Jesus is clearly named as Jehovah, just as the Father is.

Psalm 110
4 Jehovah has sworn an oath, and he will not change his mind:*
“You are a priest forever+
In the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek!”+
5 Jehovah will be at your right hand;+
He will crush kings on the day of his anger.+
Another new world translation showing Jesus is Jehovah below

Matthew 28:19 (New World “Translation”)

Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
This is quite simple. This instruction to baptise is accurately translated by the “Jehovah’s Witnesses” (though they wrongly dishonour the Holy Spirit by using lower-case).

The verse does not say to baptise in the “names” but the “Name.” It directly links that Name to each of three Beings with the words “of the.” “Of the Son” and “of the Holy Spirit” can refer only to that same “Name.” Jesus could have said “names” but He didn’t — “name” is singular, which tells us the Three all have the same Name.

Any “Jehovah’s Witness” can tell you — the Father’s Name is Jehovah, and Jesus makes clear that His Name is also Jehovah (as is the Spirit’s). When born, He was given another Name, Jesus (as Saviour), and He was also called Lord, Christ, and Immanuel. But His name before birth, through all eternity, always was and remains Jehovah.

Side note: The reference to only one name in this passage helps explain why there is no contradiction with Acts 2:38 and 19:5, where baptism is in the name of Jesus. When we baptise in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (or Holy Spirit) we baptise in a single name. To baptise in the name of the Three is to baptise in the name of One of the Three, as well. Thus there is no contradiction between a passage that says to baptise in the name of all Three and a passage that says to baptise in the name of One of the Three.

The “Jehovah’s Witnesses” have no explanation for the difference between Matthew and Acts, but the fact that Father, Son, and Spirit are One and bear the same Name removes any confusion.
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:08am On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you're saying Jehovah is your God. Right?

If so then we have no issues with you since you acknowledge JEHOVAH as God {Mark 12:29} and do you also acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God? Matthew 16:13-19

If you do then we are on the same page! smiley


I won't be the one to save you from the lake of fire since you chose not to believe in Jesus as your God Almighty

You will still bow down and worship Jesus when the time comes for this is the will of God this is what gives God joy when you do it by admission, you will see Jesus on the throne and you will cry had I known or had I listened to Bishopkingsley

Your Bible told you Jehovah is at the right hand of Jesus at the right hand of the Great priest Jesus

I will laugh you at the last day
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:22am On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:

I won't be the one to save you from the lake of fire since you chose not to believe in Jesus as your God Almighty
You will still bow down and worship Jesus when the time comes for this is the will of God this is what gives God joy when you do it by admission, you will see Jesus on the throne and you will cry had I known or had I listened to Bishopkingsley
Your Bible told you Jehovah is at the right hand of Jesus at the right hand of the Great priest Jesus
I will laugh you at the last day

The only true God {John 17:3} is JEHOVAH {Psalm 83:18} and Jesus is God's Son! John 3:16-18
That's what God's word said we need to know for our salvation:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father AND the Son. 1John 2:22

It has always been WRITTEN in the scriptures that the Father is different from the Son! John 8:28

So keep tormenting yourself! cheesy
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:08pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:


The only true God {John 17:3} is JEHOVAH {Psalm 83:18} and Jesus is God's Son! John 3:16-18
That's what God's word said we need to know for our salvation:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father AND the Son. 1John 2:22

It has always been WRITTEN in the scriptures that the Father is different from the Son! John 8:28

So keep tormenting yourself! cheesy

Several differences between the NWT and legitimate translations include the following: The NWT has the Greek term word “staurós” (“cross”) as “torture stake”.

It leaves out the words “sheol,” “hades,” “gehenna,” and “tartarus”, where other translations translate some, or all, of these as “hell” (JW’s do not believe in hell).

The NWT uses “presence” as for the Greek “Parousia” instead of “coming” (JW’s believe that Christ returned in the early 1900’s). In contrast with the translators’ stated goals, these differences clearly represent “sectarian religious coloration.”

These might be laughable except that the NWT goes much farther with its mistranslation than this. The most important of these is how God is treated.

The Divine Name

The most noticeable change in the Watchtower Bible, and one they cite as proving its superiority, is the insertion of the name “Jehovah” over 200 times in the New Testament.

This word is allegedly a transliteration of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH– although it does not appear in any Greek manuscripts. They claim that this “restoration” of the divine name (i.e., “Jehovah”) is required to worship God in truth (although Hebrew has no letters that would transliterate to a “J”!).

They fail to see God has many different names in the Bible and revelation shows God has a name which no one knows, and God has a new name we will call him in the world to come.

JW told you there is no hell fire guess that is the place those who reject Jesus end up those who don't believe Jesus is God Almighty are sent their to receive great torment in the lake of fire
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:50pm On Sep 17
OK you want to switch over to another topic shey? cheesy
Well that's how misinformed Churchgoers who wants to judge true Christians always do, once they are stuck in a corner they start looking for escape route.
JEHOVAH is the most high God! Psalms 83:18
And Jesus is God's Son! Matthew 16:16
JEHOVAH acknowledged Jesus as Son! Matthew 3:17; 17:5
Jesus acknowledged JEHOVAH as his Father and God! John 8:28; 20:17

Case Closed! smiley

Bishopkingsley:


Several differences between the NWT and legitimate translations include the following: The NWT has the Greek term word “staurós” (“cross”) as “torture stake”.

It leaves out the words “sheol,” “hades,” “gehenna,” and “tartarus”, where other translations translate some, or all, of these as “hell” (JW’s do not believe in hell).

The NWT uses “presence” as for the Greek “Parousia” instead of “coming” (JW’s believe that Christ returned in the early 1900’s). In contrast with the translators’ stated goals, these differences clearly represent “sectarian religious coloration.”

These might be laughable except that the NWT goes much farther with its mistranslation than this. The most important of these is how God is treated.

The Divine Name

The most noticeable change in the Watchtower Bible, and one they cite as proving its superiority, is the insertion of the name “Jehovah” over 200 times in the New Testament.

This word is allegedly a transliteration of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH– although it does not appear in any Greek manuscripts. They claim that this “restoration” of the divine name (i.e., “Jehovah”) is required to worship God in truth (although Hebrew has no letters that would transliterate to a “J”!).

They fail to see God has many different names in the Bible and revelation shows God has a name which no one knows, and God has a new name we will call him in the world to come.

JW told you there is no hell fire guess that is the place those who reject Jesus end up those who don't believe Jesus is God Almighty are sent their to receive great torment in the lake of fire
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:41pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:


The only true God {John 17:3} is JEHOVAH {Psalm 83:18} and Jesus is God's Son! John 3:16-18
That's what God's word said we need to know for our salvation:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father AND the Son. 1John 2:22

It has always been WRITTEN in the scriptures that the Father is different from the Son! John 8:28

So keep tormenting yourself! cheesy

This is the same topic

The problem with you you don't even know the meaning of Jehovah

Jehovah definition is - God

Jehovah is a Latin name for God

Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). ... The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).


So we are not talking about just the father so when we say Jesus is Jehovah what it means is Jesus is God

So you are confused as usual the father is God that why we can say Jehovah is the father of Jesus

Hope you now understand this things that confuse your brain

Only when you understand the father has a special work the son has his the holy spirit has his own

Just like your body has his own work your soul has his own work your own spirit has his own work but all three is what makes you a man
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:47pm On Sep 17
JEHOVAH is a transliteration for YAHWEH the divine name just as JESUS is the transliteration for YEOSHUA!

So if you disqualify the name JEHOVAH because it comes with letter "J" then there's no way you can prove that God's Son is JESUS since he is a Jew too and his name also start with letter "J"! wink

Bishopkingsley:

This is the same topic
The problem with you you don't even know the meaning of Jehovah
Jehovah definition is - God
Jehovah is a Latin name for God
Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). ... The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).
So we are not talking about just the father so when we say Jesus is Jehovah what it means is Jesus is God
So you are confused as usual the father is God that why we can say Jehovah is the father of Jesus
Hope you now understand this things that confuse your brain
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 3:50pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


This is the same topic

The problem with you you don't even know the meaning of Jehovah

Jehovah definition is - God

Jehovah is a Latin name for God

Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). ... The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).
So we are not talking about just the father so when we say Jesus is Jehovah what it means is Jesus is God




So you are confused as usual the father is God that why we can say Jehovah is the father of Jesus

Hope you now understand this things that confuse your brain

Only when you understand the father has a special work the son has his the holy spirit has his own

Just like your body has his own work your soul has his own work your own spirit has his own work but all three is what makes you a man

Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).

Bishop LIENUS, who is the "HE"?
How many persons is the "HE" who "Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” ?



Something is seriously wrong with your brain grin grin
.
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:53pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH is a transliteration for YAHWEH the divine name just as JESUS is the transliteration for YEOSHUA!

So if you disqualify the name JEHOVAH because it comes with letter "J" then there's no way you can prove that God's Son is JESUS since he is a Jew too and his name also start with letter "J"! wink


Quote
So if you disqualify the name JEHOVAH because it comes with letter "J" then there's no way you can prove that God's Son is JESUS since he is a Jew too!

Answer

I did not disqualify anything now Greek was the official language of the world when Jesus came notice most of the new testaments was written in Greek that why they translated YEOSHUA! To Jesus

Which equally means the same thing God's salvation or the Savior or the messiah

JW claim Jehovah is the only Name of God but Hebrew many articles say they don't have j that the problem with JW they get too much wrong information

God put his name in each language because he is vast and unlimited how can God have only one name in only one language when he is the one who created all languages ask your brain this simple question
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:57pm On Sep 17
Janosky:


Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).

Bishop LIENUS, who is the "HE"?
How many persons is the "HE" who "Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” ?



Something is seriously wrong with your brain grin grin
.

You know I don't entertain insult when you become civil call me
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:00pm On Sep 17
Jesus is born and raised a Jew so if his name is transliterated to Greek there's nothing bad in the transliteration of the divine name! smiley

Bishopkingsley:


Quote
So if you disqualify the name JEHOVAH because it comes with letter "J" then there's no way you can prove that God's Son is JESUS since he is a Jew too!

Answer

I did not disqualify anything now Greek was the official language of the world when Jesus came notice most of the new testaments was written in Greek that why they translated YEOSHUA! To Jesus

Which equally means the same thing God's salvation or the Savior or the messiah

JW claim Jehovah is the only Name of God but Hebrew many articles say they don't have j that the problem with JW they get too much wrong information

God put his name in each language because he is vast and unlimited how can God have only one name in only one language when he is the one who created all languages ask your brain this simple question

Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:05pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is born and raised a Jew so if his name is transliterated to Greek there's nothing bad in the transliteration of the divine name! smiley


That is the same thing am saying

Now let me ask you is Jehovah the only name of God
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:

That is the same thing am saying
Now let me ask you is Jehovah the only name of God
Jesus said:

“I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word" John 17:6

"I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them" John 17:26


He (Jesus) answered a question saying:


"The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29

Moses wrote:

Then God said to Moses: “I am Jehovah. And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

David wrote:

May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth! Psalms 83:18

So Answer your own question using God's own word as spoken through the mouth of three Witnesses! Deuteronomy 17:6 smiley
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 4:16pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:

#1
Several differences between the NWT and legitimate translations include the following: The NWT has the Greek term word “staurós” (“cross”) as “torture stake”.

#2
It leaves out the words “sheol,” “hades,” “gehenna,” and “tartarus”, where other translations translate some, or all, of these as “hell” (JW’s do not believe in hell).

#3
The NWT uses “presence” as for the Greek “Parousia” instead of “coming” (JW’s believe that Christ returned in the early 1900’s). In contrast with the translators’ stated goals, these differences clearly represent “sectarian religious coloration.”

These might be laughable except that the NWT goes much farther with its mistranslation than this. The most important of these is how God is treated.

The Divine Name

The most noticeable change in the Watchtower Bible, and one they cite as proving its superiority, is the insertion of the name “Jehovah” over 200 times in the New Testament.

This word is allegedly a transliteration of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH– although it does not appear in any Greek manuscripts. They claim that this “restoration” of the divine name (i.e., “Jehovah”) is required to worship God in truth (although Hebrew has no letters that would transliterate to a “J”!).

They fail to see God has many different names in the Bible and revelation shows God has a name which no one knows, and God has a new name we will call him in the world to come.

JW told you there is no hell fire guess that is the place those who reject Jesus end up those who don't believe Jesus is God Almighty are sent their to receive great torment in the lake of fire

#1
Wetin concern Greek stauros, upright pole with your pagan traverse beam you label "Cross"?

#2
Mark 9:43 NWT, "Gehenna"
2 Peter 2:4 NWT " Tartarus"
Bishop is a LIENUS grin .
Sheoll/Hades = grave.
Greek Parousia meaning 'prescence' , it's not debatable.

Bishop LIENUS says Gehenna is torture chamber of hellfire , this Bros, you need medication? grin

Jeremiah, Jude, Jonah, Joshua are Bible names in that Bible you carry upandan yet you no get shame dey vex we call JEHOVAH with a letter 'J'.
Bishop LIENUS Is a proven hypocrite
grin cheesy

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:18pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus said:

“I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word" John 17:6

"I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them" John 17:26


He (Jesus) answered a question saying:


"The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29

Moses wrote:

Then God said to Moses: “I am Jehovah. And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

David wrote:

May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth! Psalms 83:18

So Answer your own question using God's own word as spoken through the mouth of three Witnesses! Deuteronomy 17:6 smiley








Lol you did not even answer the question because you don't even know the real answer


Let me ask again is Jehovah the only name of God

And

Let me ask you more which language is Jehovah is it Greek or Hebrew or Latin or your yoruba lol
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:20pm On Sep 17
Janosky:


#1
Wetin concern Greek stauros, upright pole with your pagan traverse beam you label "Cross"?

#2
Mark 9:43 NWT, "Gehenna"
2 Peter 2:4 NWT " Tartarus"
Bishop is a LIENUS grin .
Sheoll/Hades = grave.
Greek Parousia meaning 'prescence' , it's not debatable.

Bishop LIENUS says Gehenna is torture chamber of hellfire , this Bros, you need medication? grin

Jeremiah, Jude, Jonah, Joshua are Bible names in that Bible you carry upandan yet you no get shame dey vex we call JEHOVAH with a letter 'J'.
Bishop LIENUS Is a proven hypocrite
grin cheesy


When reply without abuse and insult then we discuss inform Me when you are ready to become civil
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 4:20pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


You know I don't entertain insult when you become civil call me

Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” , how many persons is the "HE"?
Bishop dodging question.

When you copy and paste GIBBERISH without giving credit to the authors, are you civil?


Copy copy thief thief cheesy

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:21pm On Sep 17
Janosky:


Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” , how many persons is the "HE"?
Bishop dodging question.

When you copy and paste GIBBERISH without giving credit to the authors, are you civil?


Copy copy thief thief cheesy

Bye
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31pm On Sep 17
What did your own copy of the Bible say about the question?


I have quoted God's word (Bible) so you don't even believe in those THREE Witnesses?

If you doubt Moses and David, are you also doubting Jesus? smiley

Well if you don't believe the Bible in your hand i can't help you in this condition! smiley

Bishopkingsley:

Lol you did not even answer the question because you don't even know the real answer
Let me ask again is Jehovah the only name of God
And
Let me ask you more which language is Jehovah is it Greek or Hebrew or Latin or your yoruba lol
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36pm On Sep 17
Janosky:

Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” , how many persons is the "HE"?
Bishop dodging question.
When you copy and paste GIBBERISH without giving credit to the authors, are you civil?

Copy copy thief thief cheesy

His problem is the efficacy of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in delivering the message with the use of appropriate scriptures. Inside him he's feeling really really bad but there's nothing he could hold on to condemn God's people. So he's been running from pillar to post trying to find something incriminating about JWs! smiley
What a pity? Ó mà ṣeo! embarassed
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:39pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
What did your own copy of the Bible say about the question?


I have quoted God's word (Bible) so you don't even believe in those THREE Witnesses?

If you doubt Moses and David, are you also doubting Jesus? smiley

Well if you don't believe the Bible in your hand i can't help you in this condition! smiley




You read a fake Bible and you ask me that is what the bible said when that is not what the true Bible says

You can't even defend Jehovah meaning or the language it came from you just following what you don't even understand lol

Hahahaha so funny

In the old testament go read it in a proper Bible God identify himself with many names

Even in new testaments Jesus shows many names of God Jesus even show us that God is called the father

When Jesus was even leaving the world he commands us on another name of God to use

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

I Ask you this
Let me answer them

Let me ask again is Jehovah the only name of God....... No
And


Let me ask you more which language is Jehovah is it Greek or Hebrew or Latin or your yoruba lol

Jehovah is a name from Latin language so it can not be the only name of God
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Sep 17
How pathetic this condition is turning? undecided

Well Jesus said:

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah (YAHWEH) our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29

I believe Jesus' statement against yours Bishop TRINITY! cheesy



Bishopkingsley:

You read a fake Bible and you ask me that is what the bible said when that is not what the true Bible says
You can't even defend Jehovah meaning or the language it came from you just following what you don't even understand lol
Hahahaha so funny
In the old testament go read it in a proper Bible God identify himself with many names
Even in new testaments Jesus shows many names of God Jesus even show us that God is called the father
When Jesus was even leaving the world he commands us on another name of God to use
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
I Ask you this
Let me answer them
Let me ask again is Jehovah the only name of God....... No
And
Let me ask you more which language is Jehovah is it Greek or Hebrew or Latin or your yoruba lol
Jehovah is a name from Latin language so it can not be the only name of God

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:50pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
How pathetic this condition is turning? undecided

Well Jesus said:

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah (YAHWEH) our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29

I believe Jesus' statement against yours Bishop TRINITY! cheesy




Lol that fake Bible see real Bible

Mark 12:29 ►

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

New Living Translation
Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .

English Standard Version
Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Berean Study Bible
Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear this O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord,

King James Bible
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

New King James Version
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.

New American Standard Bible
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE;

NASB 1995
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

So it Bishopkingsley that said

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Only God can help you
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13pm On Sep 17
This shows how ignorant you are! cheesy
Go and read the preface of each translation, find out the text they rendered as "The LORD" before coming to disgrace yourself on social media! cheesy

I have passed your level!
I was once like you, arguing blindly until i was advised by a JW to read the preface of each translator.

For your information this is summary of what all of them say:

The original four Hebrew letters YHWH is used over 7,000 times as the divine name but since Jewish Scholars don't know the vowels inserted to pronounce the divine name due to the tradition of the Jews who doesn't want the divine name to be misused. The original pronunciation was lost so we believe that it's appropriate to render the divine name as LORD! smiley
But since Jesus God's only begotten Son wants us to use his Father's name then we must use it whether the Jews agree or not. The transliteration JHVH (JEHOVAH) has been in use for centuries in line with transliteration of other Jewish names like Jacob, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John and Jesus.
So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES chose to restore the divine name back to it's proper places in the scriptures.

That's why when other translations found it difficult to translate Psalms 110:1

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES find it easy to say:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” New World Translation

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. King James Version

And who are blessed by the Author of the book?
Well it's the global family of peace loving worshipers who are preaching zealously and industriously teaching with the same line of thought in all our neighbourhood: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES John 17:20-23

When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Luke 11:23 smiley









Bishopkingsley:

Lol that fake Bible see real Bible
Mark 12:29 ►
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
New Living Translation
Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .
English Standard Version
Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Berean Study Bible
Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.
Berean Literal Bible
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear this O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord,
King James Bible
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
New King James Version
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
New American Standard Bible
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE;
NASB 1995
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
So it Bishopkingsley that said
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Only God can help you

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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by achorladey: 6:06pm On Sep 17
Bishopkingsley:


Lol that fake Bible see real Bible

Mark 12:29 ►

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

New Living Translation
Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .

English Standard Version
Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Berean Study Bible
Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear this O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord,

King James Bible
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

New King James Version
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.

New American Standard Bible
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE;

NASB 1995
Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

So it Bishopkingsley that said

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Only God can help you

Look for this words numbered 1 and 2 in bold in the picture below coming from the only revered Bible scholar in the history of the ORGANIZATION WTBTS.....

1. “It no doubt causes wonderment that God’s name, viz., JEHOVAH, does not occur in the New Testament, and neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “

2. “The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament, and has permitted the Christian churches throughout this era to overlook God’s outstanding name. “

You will see how far they can go to manipulate their words and members.

Point to note.....

1. neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “

2. The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament


That second point na serious laughing matter since God unquestionably have it omitted. Then, they should tell us when the Lord unquestionably want it returned back to the new testament.

Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by achorladey: 6:10pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
This shows how ignorant you are! cheesy
Go and read the preface of each translation, find out the text they rendered as "The LORD" before coming to disgrace yourself on social media! cheesy

I have passed your level!
I was once like you, arguing blindly until i was advised by a JW to read the preface of each translator.

For your information this is summary of what all of them say:

The original four Hebrew letters YHWH is used over 7,000 times as the divine name but since Jewish Scholars don't know the vowels inserted to pronounce the divine name due to the tradition of the Jews who doesn't want the divine name to be misused. The original pronunciation was lost so we believe that it's appropriate to render the divine name as LORD! smiley
But since Jesus God's only begotten Son wants us to use his Father's name then we must use it whether the Jews agree or not. The transliteration JHVH (JEHOVAH) has been in use for centuries in line with transliteration of other Jewish names like Jacob, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John and Jesus.
So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES chose to restore the divine name back to it's proper places in the scriptures.

That's why when other translations found it difficult to translate Psalms 110:1

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES find it easy to say:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” New World Translation

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. King James Version

And who are blessed by the Author of the book?
Well it's the global family of peace loving worshipers who are preaching zealously and industriously teaching with the same line of thought in all our neighbourhood: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES John 17:20-23

When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Luke 11:23 smiley










When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!..... MaxInDHouse


The scattered teachings and doctrines within your own very religious group is enough to scatter all other 42000 religious group paapaa.

An excerpts from how those scattered doctrines and teachings look like is captured in the post above and the mentality within your religious organisation concerning the name JEHOVAH captured as below from someone......

"For me it has been a long standing contradiction that God has clearly preserved this name in copies of Hebrew manuscripts so that it could be restored in the O.T. and yet was somehow unable or unwilling to do the same for the more recent Greek manuscripts of the N.T".
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:14pm On Sep 17
MaxInDHouse:
This shows how ignorant you are! cheesy
Go and read the preface of each translation, find out the text they rendered as "The LORD" before coming to disgrace yourself on social media! cheesy

I have passed your level!
I was once like you, arguing blindly until i was advised by a JW to read the preface of each translator.

For your information this is summary of what all of them say:

The original four Hebrew letters YHWH is used over 7,000 times as the divine name but since Jewish Scholars don't know the vowels inserted to pronounce the divine name due to the tradition of the Jews who doesn't want the divine name to be misused. The original pronunciation was lost so we believe that it's appropriate to render the divine name as LORD! smiley
But since Jesus God's only begotten Son wants us to use his Father's name then we must use it whether the Jews agree or not. The transliteration JHVH (JEHOVAH) has been in use for centuries in line with transliteration of other Jewish names like Jacob, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John and Jesus.
So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES chose to restore the divine name back to it's proper places in the scriptures.

That's why when other translations found it difficult to translate Psalms 110:1

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES find it easy to say:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” New World Translation

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. King James Version

And who are blessed by the Author of the book?
Well it's the global family of peace loving worshipers who are preaching zealously and industriously teaching with the same line of thought in all our neighbourhood: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES John 17:20-23

When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Luke 11:23 smiley










Funny how can a former Muslim a lost soul say he was once like me lol

Is that not lack of respect for the truth

Islam hate Jesus
You converted to Christianity yet you carry that hate to JW don't you see how lost you are

Quote
The original pronunciation was lost so we believe

Answer
Now the devil probably told you that the original pronunciation was lost is that not idea from Satan

Because that never in the original Greek word never was Jehovah used there so it devil idea to assume original pronunciation was lost but as a former Muslim that you are they decieved you

The bible warn don't put idea as God word
Repent

Quote
I believe Jesus' statement against yours Bishop TRINITY!

. Answer
If Jesus comes now and ask you you will say it Bishopkingsley that wrote

Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,


Are you not showing how you hate Jesus by saying he did not write it that it Bishopkingsley that wrote it in your new world translation Bible

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