The two major causes of division in Nigeria and Africa in general is our nepotistic attention to state of origin/tribe/religion especially when filling legal forms. To me, I feel this is totally unnecessary as it further worsens the unity of the already divided country.

So, I went to fix a tooth at a general hospital one day and on the form, I saw religion and state of origin and I was wondering how relevant that information was related to the application request.

I know some people will want to dissociate themselves from North. But I ask, is there any unity within the entire south? Does an Igbo man see a yoruba man as his brother? How often does a moslem marry a Christian? Most times when this even happens, there are usually lots of kickbacks from friends and family members resulting to disbandment, dissociation or banishment.

Even between the two religions, there are various internal divisions that abound. Does a Jehovah's witness see Pentecostal as worshippers of same God? How does the Pentecostal view an orthodox person? Does a Sunni, Shite or Izallah(Not sure I got the spelling right) share same view? Are they void of discriminations among them? How can we move forward as a people devoid of religious or tribal sentiments? Even animals co exist. Why can't humans do? Why should we be racist to ourselves even considering we're all blacks and everyday we shout black lives matter when it doesn't even matter to us blacks.

For one Nigeria to be achieved, these two questions should be scrapped when filling any legal document. Instead of these, State of residence should rather be alternated for these two questions especially if the person has stayed in that location for up to five years/above. Let's say we even go on our separate ways in the future, are we saying a yoruba person won't be able to enter an igbo or hausa country because we don't share similar views?Enough of these intentional hatred and bias across the two religions and across the various heterogeneous ethnic divisions in the country. Even if the government and religious bodies intentionally created these sorts of division for political reasons, isn't it time we outsmarted them? In the past, we used to see a Fulani and co existed peacefully together. What went wrong?

Let's even agree the government is responsible, why do we now allow ourselves be used as instruments of destruction, prejudice, hatred and maiming? 2023 is around the corner. They will pretend they love us. Let's use our sense. Let's not be blinded by hatred for one another into perpetually doing the wrong things. If you feel a candidate is very qualified, vote him/her irrespective of where the person comes from or his/her religion because if you vote based on religious or tribal sentiments, your God or ethnicity will not make you suffer less than others when the evil person is on the throne by your doing or undoing.


My opinion.

There was a Country but the Arrows of the gods have already pierced its soul. Things have falling apart, the Centre can no longer hold. So hold your peace. No glue, even that made in futa jalon, can recall that that have long left.

Lol
This is African and not the west, scrapping of state of origin will cause more problem than we already have... Let's use Nigeria as a case study from our names you can easily tell were an individual is from and guess his religion, Emeka, ebuka, nonso is definitely from the east and most likely a Christian, sheyi, rotime and adebayo is definitely from the west and a yoruba person.... Musa, sani and Co are definitely from the north and you can guess the religion.....
So imagine a president like buhari in charge of this nation with out state of origin and religion in our laws that dude will appoint only those from this religion and his village into all government offices and no one can ever call him out...
Scraping of state of origin and religion will help the likes of Buhari to carry out nepotism will recourse to anyone

No. We are not Cows. Goats and Kuras. We are not Taliban, Macban, Bokoharam, ISIS, ISWA, or FULANI HERDSMEN.

Seconded and supported

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Adaorababy:
The two major causes of division in Nigeria and Africa in general is our nepotistic attention to state of origin/tribe/religion especially when filling legal forms. To me, I feel this is totally unnecessary as it further worsens the unity of the already divided country.

So, I went to fix a tooth at a general hospital one day and on the form, I saw religion and state of origin and I was wondering how relevant that information was related to the application request.

I know some people will want to dissociate themselves from North. But I ask, is there any unity within the entire south? Does an Igbo man see a yoruba man as his brother? How often does a moslem marry a Christian? Most times when this even happens, there are usually lots of kickbacks from friends and family members resulting to disbandment, dissociation or banishment.

Even between the two religions, there are various internal divisions that abound. Does a Jehovah's witness see Pentecostal as worshippers of same God? How does the Pentecostal view an orthodox person? Does a Sunni, Shite or Izallah(Not sure I got the spelling right) share same view? Are they void of discriminations among them? How can we move forward as a people devoid of religious or tribal sentiments? Even animals co exist. Why can't humans do? Why should we be racist to ourselves even considering we're all blacks and everyday we shout black lives matter when it doesn't even matter to us blacks.

For one Nigeria to be achieved, these two questions should be scrapped when filling any legal document. Instead of these, State of residence should rather be alternated for these two questions especially if the person has stayed in that location for up to five years/above. Let's say we even go on our separate ways in the future, are we saying a yoruba person won't be able to enter an igbo or hausa country because we don't share similar views?Enough of these intentional hatred and bias across the two religions and across the various heterogeneous ethnic divisions in the country. Even if the government and religious bodies intentionally created these sorts of division for political reasons, isn't it time we outsmarted them? In the past, we used to see a Fulani and co existed peacefully together. What went wrong?

Let's even agree the government is responsible, why do we now allow ourselves be used as instruments of destruction, prejudice, hatred and maiming? 2023 is around the corner. They will pretend they love us. Let's use our sense. Let's not be blinded by hatred for one another into perpetually doing the wrong things. If you feel a candidate is very qualified, vote him/her irrespective of where the person comes from or his/her religion because if you vote based on religious or tribal sentiments, your God or ethnicity will not make you suffer less than others when the evil person is on the throne by your doing or undoing.


My opinion.

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Wrong.

To deny me my nationality is to deny me my herritage.

The last time ethnicity/nationality plus religion was scrapped, the people ended up slaving and worshiping the state.

Globohomo aka Globalized Homogeneity calls for a Brazilesque world with mixed race people with no faith.

Will Abubakar Shinkafi now say he is from IMO State? We go slap am.

naija4life247:
Will Abubakar Shinkafi now say he is from IMO State? We go slap am.

If he has stayed in imo state for 5years(+) and he's known to be responsible such that he conducts his business in a very sane manner, then he should be addressed as an imo state person regardless of his religion or where he's originally from. This is the same way various people from all spheres of life become citizens in developed nations. If it's working for them, I wonder why it can't work here. Well, for me, I feel more comfortable dealing with a northern regarding business compared to a southerner. It's easy to see people with integrity from the north than from the south.

Just last week, I interacted with a keke young boy who should be about 15 and a Fulani. He spoke good English. I was very impressed. I engaged him in deep conversations regarding his plans for life. I realized he was writing NECO then and planning on writing WAEC. The guy plans to be an astronaut. When he said it, I was like, does this guy knows what he's saying? I even asked him to spell it and he spelt it correctly and explained what an astronaut does. I was amazed that I had to leave my balance with him. it's a few rotten eggs that spoilt the good ones. Bad people abound in all tribes. Let's learn to coexist peacefully in the most detribalized manner.

AntiBalaka:
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Wrong.

To deny me my nationality is to deny me my herritage.

The last time ethnicity/nationality plus religion was scrapped, the people ended up slaving and worshiping the state.

Globohomo aka Globalized Homogeneity calls for a Brazilesque world with mixed race people with no faith.

Still trying to understand you. Please write in a lay man's language.

Adaorababy:


Still trying to understand you. Please write in a lay man's language.

Soviet Russia abolished race and nationality.

They also abolished Religion towards creating a more homogenous state in order to get their most cherished socialist equality.

Isn't it ironic that leftists who promote diversity are only concerned about destroying identities, race and nationalities?

Think about it for a second.

AntiBalaka:


Soviet Russia abolished race and nationality.

They also abolished Religion towards creating a more homogenous state in order to get their most cherished socialist equality.

Isn't it ironic that leftists who promote diversity are only concerned about destroying identities, race and nationalities?

Think about it for a second.

What do you think will be the solution to the unending religious and ethnic differences/crisis that we currently suffer as a nation?

Adaorababy:


What do you think will be the solution to the unending religious and ethnic differences/crisis that we currently suffer as a nation?

God created that division for a reason when HE scattered the tongues of men in Babel.

Only Christ can unite the world in peace and love.

Any talk of any man made unity is of the devil.

annisy:
Lol
This is African and not the west, scrapping of state of origin will cause more problem than we already have... Let's use Nigeria as a case study from our names you can easily tell were an individual is from and guess his religion, Emeka, ebuka, nonso is definitely from the east and most likely a Christian, sheyi, rotime and adebayo is definitely from the west and a yoruba person.... Musa, sani and Co are definitely from the north and you can guess the religion.....
So imagine a president like buhari in charge of this nation with out state of origin and religion in our laws that dude will appoint only those from this religion and his village into all government offices and no one can ever call him out...
Scraping of state of origin and religion will help the likes of Buhari to carry out nepotism will recourse to anyone

. That's a valid point. But assuming we all vote based on competence regardless if the person is Fulani, Tiv, Ebira, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw or Berom? Will this nepotism still be an issue? It is nepotism like this that continues to drag us behind. Don't you think so?

Adaorababy:



If he has stayed in imo state for 5years(+) and he's known to be responsible such that he conducts his business in a very sane manner, then he should be addressed as an imo state person regardless of his religion or where he's originally from. This is the same way various people from all spheres of life become citizens in developed nations. If it's working for them, I wonder why it can't work here. Well, for me, I feel more comfortable dealing with a northern regarding business compared to a southerner. It's easy to see people with integrity from the north than from the south.

Just last week, I interacted with a keke young boy who should be about 15 and a Fulani. He spoke good English. I was very impressed. I engaged him in deep conversations regarding his plans for life. I realized he was writing NECO then and planning on writing WAEC. The guy plans to be an astronaut. When he said it, I was like, does this guy knows what he's saying? I even asked him to spell it and he spelt it correctly and explained what an astronaut does. I was amazed that I had to leave my balance with him. it's a few rotten eggs that spoilt the good ones. Bad people abound in all tribes. Let's learn to coexist peacefully in the most detribalized manner.

Go and check history. This is the reason why fulani are killing people in south even in their farmland because Their grandfathers made them believe that south is their land. So anywhere they enter, they see such place as their land and state then they will start killing innocent people.

AntiBalaka:


God created that division for a reason when HE scattered the tongues of men in Babel.

Only Christ can unite the world in peace and love.

Any talk of any man made unity is of the devil.

You expect a Muslim to believe in the coming of Christ?

AntiBalaka:


God created that division for a reason when HE scattered the tongues of men in Babel.

Only Christ can unite the world in peace and love.

Any talk of any man made unity is of the devil.

Only Christ? But we're able to converse freely and understand each other in English language. We need Christ to come down before we can coexist peacefully? I'm sorry, I don't agree with you.

Dymaco:

Go and check history. This is the reason why fulani are killing people in south even in their farmland because Their grandfathers made them believe that south is their land. So anywhere they enter, they see such place as their land and state then they will start killing innocent people.

Odiegwu!!!

143WaZoBia:

You expect a Muslim to believe in the coming of Christ?

The Muslim Apocalypse speaks of Christ returning to wage war alongside the Imam Mahdi to establish a Muslim dominated world with Jeruslam as the Capital.

Only daft Sunni Wahabbi goat fckers of the sect of Judaism refuse to see Christ as the divine being that HE is.

Adaorababy:



If he has stayed in imo state for 5years(+) and he's known to be responsible such that he conducts his business in a very sane manner, then he should be addressed as an imo state person regardless of his religion or where he's originally from. This is the same way various people from all spheres of life become citizens in developed nations. If it's working for them, I wonder why it can't work here. Well, for me, I feel more comfortable dealing with a northern regarding business compared to a southerner. It's easy to see people with integrity from the north than from the south.

Just last week, I interacted with a keke young boy who should be about 15 and a Fulani. He spoke good English. I was very impressed. I engaged him in deep conversations regarding his plans for life. I realized he was writing NECO then and planning on writing WAEC. The guy plans to be an astronaut. When he said it, I was like, does this guy knows what he's saying? I even asked him to spell it and he spelt it correctly and explained what an astronaut does. I was amazed that I had to leave my balance with him. it's a few rotten eggs that spoilt the good ones. Bad people abound in all tribes. Let's learn to coexist peacefully in the most detribalized manner.

That's how fulanis took over hausa land ...we won't allow that

Adaorababy:


Only Christ? But we're able to converse freely and understand each other in English language. We need Christ to come down before we can coexist peacefully? I'm sorry, I don't agree with you.

Conversing in similar tongues is not the same as coexisting in peace.

The divisions are beyond language differences but cultural and religious.

Only Christ message of peace and unity can truly heal and unite the world.

Better believe that.

143WaZoBia:

You expect a Muslim to believe in the coming of Christ?

I wonder. Exactly my point. This is why the division continue to exists. As far as a Muslim is concerned, that's a christian's stuff and vice verse.

AntiBalaka:


Conversing in similar tongues is not the same as coexisting in peace.

The divisions are beyond language differences but cultural and religious.

Only Christ message of peace and unity can truly heal and unite the world.

Better believe that.

Anti Balaka, you can not use a problem to create a solution. Religion is the reason for this anarchy today. Does a moslem agree with this? No... Does an Atheist agree? No... Even among the Christian denominations, not everyone agrees to this. So why can't we reach a consensus or speak in a language that everyone understands or agrees to otherwise, the world might just be completely desolate with the rising spate of killings and nonstop violence before Christ comes

Adaorababy:

Anti Balaka, you can not use a problem to create a solution. Religion is the reason for this anarchy today. Does a moslem agree with this? No... Does an Atheist agree? No... Even among the Christian denominations, not everyone agrees to this. So why can't we reach a consensus or speak in a language that everyone understands or agrees to otherwise, the world might just be completely desolate with the rising spate of killings and nonstop violence before Christ comes

That is why Christianity isn't a religion but a way of life in its truest form.

Unlike other Abrahamic faiths, Christianity does not advocate for a violent world take over (Judaism and Islam have this ambition).

someone will just come on Nairaland and start talking rubbish Nigeria has never been one we need either Regionalism or division

AntiBalaka:


That is why Christianity isn't a religion but a way of life in its truest form.

Unlike other Abrahamic faiths, Christianity does not advocate for a violent world take over (Judaism and Islam have this ambition).

I think there's a misconception here. The topic suggests the scrapping of the question as it bothers on religion and ethnicity to be replaced with state of residence instead. This is not to say religion or origins of ethnicity is to be dismissed in it's entirety but to enable peaceful coexistence because humans have always existed before the advent of religion.

AntiBalaka:


That is why Christianity isn't a religion but a way of life in its truest form.

Unlike other Abrahamic faiths, Christianity does not advocate for a violent world take over (Judaism and Islam have this ambition).

do you read your Bible well at all?
all Abrahamic religions have the tendency to violently promote their religion

or why do you think you're a Christian today?
because the missionaries came in peace?

theTranscriber:
do you read your Bible well at all?
all Abrahamic religions have the tendency to violently promote their religion

or why do you think you're a Christian today?
because the missionaries came in peace?

Not true.

Christianity came to these shores not by compulsion.

It was through Christian evangelism.

And for the umpteenth time, stop comparing Christianity to both Judaism and its lower sect Islam.

Adaorababy:

I think there's a misconception here. The topic suggests the scrapping of the question as it bothers on religion and ethnicity to be replaced with state of residence instead. This is not to say religion or origins of ethnicity is to be dismissed in it's entirety but to enable peaceful coexistence because humans have always existed before the advent of religion.

Religion has always been a part of humanity.

It is our sentient nature that led us to question our very own existence.

To remove religion in man's life is to pave way for materialism aka communism which you are promoting here without knowing so by claiming that equality can only come when diversity is embraced and later destroyed.

Don't you see the paradox in your own thinking?

You want to promote peaceful co-existence among all the nations and peoples of the earth by destroying what makes them individually unique.

That is not in anyway promoting and celebrating diversity but rather watering it down to create one big mulatto Brazil world.

AntiBalaka:


Not true.

Christianity came to these shores not by compulsion.

It was through Christian evangelism.

And for the umpteenth time, stop comparing Christianity to both Judaism and its lower sect Islam.

lol
you've been reading propaganda
do you know that Christianity is based on Judaism and Islam is in turn based on christainity?
why do you think the missionaries made sure you had no choice?
or you think violence is only about taking arms?

theTranscriber:
lol
you've been reading propaganda
do you know that Christianity is based on Judaism and Islam is in turn based on christainity?
why do you think the missionaries made sure you had no choice?
or you think violence is only about taking arms?

Wrong.

Islam was created by Jews to rid the Middle East of Christianity and from there reclaim Jerusalem.

See this thread for more:

https://www.nairaland.com/5850631/first-caliph-islam-mohammeds-father

Also, note that current Talmudic Judaism is based not on the Wriiteen Laws of Moses but that of the Oral Traditions of Jewish scribes and rabbis.

Judaism is no longer about Temple worship as they don't have the temple to worship anymore since Titus sacked and destroyed Jerusalem rather Judaism of today is much younger than Christianity and is based on laws and codex of the Jewish Rabbis.

The religion has so much deviated that it is barely indistinguishable from satanism.

Christ did not only destroy the Temple but the old religion of Temple worship.

And as I said earlier, Islam remains a Jewish creation.

theTranscriber:
lol
you've been reading propaganda
do you know that Christianity is based on Judaism and Islam is in turn based on christainity?
why do you think the missionaries made sure you had no choice?
or you think violence is only about taking arms?

AntiBalaka is such an intelligent fellow but I wonder why he reasons this way.

They should remove religion from document. But state of origin is important