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Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:47am On Aug 18, 2021
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by lymelyte(m): 11:09am On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.
well said..food for thought

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Gerrard59(m): 11:21am On Aug 18, 2021
In 2000, no one envisaged people would be kidnapped and huge ransoms paid to have them released. Ten years later, kidnappings became rife.

Prior to the late 2000s, no one believed Nigerians will indulge in suicide bombings. Ten years later, suicide bombings became a norm. In 2010, no one ever thought that school children would be kidnapped, raped and some killed or ransoms close to N1BN will be paid for their release. Just more than ten years on, such is rampant.

Currently, aircrafts are being shot down. By 2031, it will become a norm for aircrafts, commercial and military, to be shot down daily.

The Nigeria of today will be a paradise to the Nigeria in the next ten years.




Don't say you were not warned.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 11:23am On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.

We really need to discuss. Bro, relax.

I sympathize with you and all. I feel same too. Nigeria is becoming harder, no doubt. But....hmmmmm!

Personally, I have a problem with the kinds of techs around. Some of them are used to launder money and we know this is true.

Also, all these investment techs...they are thieves. Really, I need to look into these new cases. Imagine some of these starts up, they start with something, and before you know it....they start promoting different investments which at the end are rubbish. I can count many of them just opening real estate and agro investments which are the top tools for scamming fo olish Nigerians. And they contract them out to illiterates in bushes. Many of them have squandered millions. Meanwhile, if they used all in the said businesses, fine...but they dont. They divert the money for their own enjoyment. If they use it for something tangible...fine...but they buy luxurious cars and you start seeing pictures on Instagram pages testifying to the goodness of God meanwhile, businesses are failing. Annoying part is they pay tithes from investment funds. Meaning they had made profit already... grin And they dont even protect themselves from been liable to paying back debts. Let's get it straight and not just blame government for everything.

We are the reasons forex and why govt releases terrible policies. Govt banned BDC, people cried they are not good. Meanwhile, it will have positive effect on someone like you. Yet, people who arent driving our economic positively are the ones always having upper hands.

Well, in a way...hmmm I see Nigeria going the Afghanistan route., but I keep praying against it. And the whole world knows if this happen, the whole of WEST africa is in trouble. Bro, rather than this to happen, the south will break. And if this happens, I swear, north will suffer. Is it Niger or the upper part that are able to team up with the north and flourish? But if the south breaks, just look at our partners - Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, etc. So, this thing is not only about govt only.

Corruption is what finished Afghanistan. Imagine the president there right under the nose of the Americans....according to Russians ran away with cars loaded with money and the chopper he used too was loaded. Just imagine this. It means the man had money at home anytime ready to take off. Corruption is the main issue.

So, look at the fintechs people are creating...invest this...invest that...bla bla bla. And cos they know about crypto, fx, etc...politicians use them to move out stolen loots too. Let us not close our eyes to these issues.

If you read me well, my stuff are towards making Nigeria better. There are start ups we can do. I still know we can do it.

Yes, I agree with you...anyone who wants to jakpa should. There is no thinking about it. Just Jakpa. But we can still save Nigeria.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 11:25am On Aug 18, 2021
Gerrard59:


In 2000, no envisaged people would be kidnapped and huge ransoms paid to have them released. Ten years later, kidnappings became rife.

Prior to the late 2000s, no one believed Nigerians will indulge in suicide bombings. Ten years later, suicide bombings became a norm. In 2010, no one ever thought that school children would be kidnapped, raped and some killed or ransoms close to N1BN will be paid for their release. Just more than ten years on, such is rampant.

Currently, aircrafts are being shot down. By 2031, it will become a norm for aircrafts, commercial and military, to be shot down daily.

The Nigeria of today will be a paradise to the Nigeria in the next ten years.




Don't say you were not warned.

A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Gerrard59(m): 11:27am On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:


A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

Keep writing and speaking English.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 11:32am On Aug 18, 2021
Gerrard59:


Keep writing and speaking English.
You are an idiootaaa for this. A big one. Go na. Go and find another nation and leave us with our Nigeria. Mu.mu.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Gerrard59(m): 11:39am On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

You are an idiootaaa for this. A big one. Go na. Go and find another nation and leave us with our Nigeria. Mu.mu.

Coming from someone I always see viewing the Canada express entry thread, you are the biggest hypocrite I have seen today.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 11:48am On Aug 18, 2021
Gerrard59:


Coming from someone I always see viewing the Canada express entry thread, you are the biggest hypocrite I have seen today.

grin grin grin

You dont know me. Oga go and check my previous comments. You will know me....and I never hid my recent support for youths moving out.

But that Canadian thread you mentioned...you failed. Na lie. You be muskie. I have universities degrees not from naijas. From the US of A. So, to me...travelling is not a new issue. Maybe it is for you and it is. Like I said...you are a mu.mu.

I suggest you take a flight from wherever you are and just enter a plane for once in your life. Feel it. It will keep you calm. He always sees me on Canadian thread.... grin...muskie .... very funny. grin trying to be smart.... grin Since you haven't experienced it in your life. Muskie.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by ichidodo(m): 11:57am On Aug 18, 2021
I understand french and I am currently learning python to build an algorithm on a ground breaking idea...And if I eventually get a hang of this programming language...I will like to find a country that appreciates the easy migration of programmers especially in Africa..

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by The5DME(m): 12:11pm On Aug 18, 2021
I hate Nigeria to be honest.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by callmemikel(m): 12:31pm On Aug 18, 2021
Nice line of thoughts.

tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by MirthOsas(m): 12:35pm On Aug 18, 2021
My Oga @Tensazangetsu20 has dropped another one ooo... Japa-ing is the goal grin

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Deasegun19(m): 1:15pm On Aug 18, 2021
Nigeria, we hail thee...

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Nickisindigo(m): 2:12pm On Aug 18, 2021
Which platform did you use for the job search
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 2:25pm On Aug 18, 2021
Nickisindigo:
Which platform did you use for the job search
LinkedIn.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by genaro2000(m): 2:33pm On Aug 18, 2021
Hmmm
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Maj196(m): 4:51pm On Aug 18, 2021
Oga chill, your blood too dey hot.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Elmaaq: 6:02pm On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:


A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

Nigeria is gone as in beyond redemption
Until the Split Survival is the game or japa

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 7:16pm On Aug 18, 2021
Elmaaq:


Nigeria is gone as in beyond redemption
Until the Split Survival is the game or japa
I am not saying boys and girls should not move out...infact, I am moving out too again also cos I have done my best too in the little ways God sent me. However, I do not appreciate the way OP is doing it.

He is going to be a secondary citizen where he is going. Well, who cares about that? But the issue is that he has relatives here. So? What about that?

Anyone who talks like OP has the tendency to just leave, forget about Nigeria, even abandon everything including his friends.

With that kind of style, they always return only when they want to contest for political positions. Though, they tell you they will not, but trust me ...they will.

And if care is not taking, there are jobs he will want or progress he desires that he needs to still look Niaja side. If Naija is destroyed, he wont have such. No matter what and whenever he fills any form, he will forever write Nigeria as his place of birth. The reference will be there for the rest of his life. That's it.

So, why cant we be positive in the midst of calamities? I dont pray Nigeria turns to Afghanistan.

So sir, take back your statement. Nigeria will never go beyond redemption. If you understand this negative statement, you will never utter it.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:29pm On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

I am not saying boys and girls should not move out...infact, I am moving out too again also cos I have done my best too in the little ways God sent me. However, I do not appreciate the way OP is doing it.

He is going to be a secondary citizen where he is going. Well, who cares about that? But the issue is that he has relatives here. So? What about that?

Anyone who talks like OP has the tendency to just leave, forget about Nigeria, even abandon everything including his friends.

With that kind of style, they always return only when they want to contest for political positions. Though, they tell you they will not, but trust me ...they will.

And if care is not taking, there are jobs he will want or progress he desires that he needs to still look Niaja side. If Naija is destroyed, he wont have such. No matter what and whenever he fills any form, he will forever wrote Nigeria as his place of birth. The reference will be there for the rest of his life. That's it.

So, why cant we be positive in the midst of calamities? I dont pray Nigeria turns to Afghanistan.

So sir, take back your statement. Nigeria will never go beyond redemption. If you understand this negative statement, you will never utter it.

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by ClixMaster: 7:44pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.
Oboi! The hate is first grade. Me self wan japa like mad. Connect me too oo

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:46pm On Aug 18, 2021
ClixMaster:
Oboi! The hate is first grade. Me self wan japa like mad. Connect me too oo
No problemo we would have more opportunities in the coming months just get good and PM me once you are confident to take a job. Our hiring window is closed now but you need to pass our test.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 8:14pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.
If Insit you down and tell you mt story...hmmm... Bro, people like you end up returning to Nigeria. Just try not to show your feelings about Nigeria. Truly, Nigeria head no correct. It is not like I enjoy it, I am just using faith too myself. And I am happy for you. I will keep encouraging you.

Are there data science and artificial intelligence opportunities at your end?

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 8:22pm On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

If Insit you down and tell you mt story...hmmm... Bro, people like you end up returning to Nigeria. Just try not to show your feelings about Nigeria. Truly, Nigeria head no correct. It is not like I enjoy it, I am just using faith too myself. And I am happy for you. I will keep encouraging you.

Are there data science and artificial intelligence opportunities at your end?
Na only web development. Trust me bros me I always do what I say. You can go and trace my posts from when I started learning programming here and was even creating threads asking for help on CSS. Those threads are still there. Even getting certified in salesforce. Someone here said that I won't achieve anything with it. The same salesforce is giving me interviews from large corporate firms from all over the world o.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 8:31pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Na only web development. Trust me bros me I always do what I say. You can go and trace my posts from when I started learning programming here and was even creating threads asking for help on CSS. Those threads are still there. Even getting certified in salesforce. Someone here said that I won't achieve anything with it. The same salesforce is giving me interviews from large corporate firms from all over the world o.
Can what you do lift 100 Nigerians abroad to have better life? If yes, is it ok if you can just give me a view of it? I will crack it and put it in a format responsible youths can follow. There are many brilliant graduates who have been talking to me. Unfortunately, I am not into looking for jobs abroad. If you dont mind. Let us lift many out of poverty.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 8:43pm On Aug 18, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

Can what you do lift 100 Nigerians abroad to have better life? If yes, is it ok if you can just give me a view of it? I will crack it and put it in a format responsible youths can follow. There are many brilliant graduates who have been talking to me. Unfortunately, I am not into looking for jobs abroad. If you dont mind. Let us lift many out of poverty.
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by ClixMaster: 8:53pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

No problemo we would have more opportunities in the coming months just get good and PM me once you are confident to take a job. Our hiring window is closed now but you need to pass our test.
Wow! I appreciate you bro. That's why I am following you. I am now doing some projects. Will get intouch once am done so you can rate me.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by PeaceJoyLove: 9:14pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.
Oladipo hustling. Hmmmm! You took the West decision to take a break and study. That's just it. Boys showed me "pepper" and I vexed amd returned to coding too. I had a laptop which I bought and for one year did not open cos I am always with my phone. I opened it and I started too. I vexed that day cos the disappointment and embarrassment was too much.

I abandoned every other thing, and I was coding. It was like those days in Nigerian institution. I was just going forward. I abandoned every other thing. Learning programming was rhe last thing on my mind. I ever thought of it.

Anyway, we thank God.

Concerning your thought about Nigeria, that is the spirit. Exactly waht I wish you do.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Karleb(m): 9:22pm On Aug 18, 2021
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I find the part you said you'd curse any of your generation that wants to come back to Nigeria stark naked and when they land, it will be instant death very funny.

Nigeria is really a lost cause.

I try not to think about this country too much because when I do, I tend to overthink and I no wan die of hypertension.

One particular Ondo state governor has not paid April salary and people still shout that government job is the best.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 9:22pm On Aug 18, 2021
Karleb:
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I find the part you said you'd curse any of your generation that wants to come back to Nigeria stark naked and when they land, it will be instant death.

Nigeria is really a lost cause.

I try not to think about this country too much because when I do, I tend to overthink and I no wan die of hypertension.

One particular Ondo state governor has not paid April salary and people still shout that government job is the best.
Since April is good na. My own state has been owning workers for 3 years and doctors for 18 months.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Karleb(m): 9:35pm On Aug 18, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Since April is good na. My own state has been owning workers for 3 years and doctors for 18 months.

That must be Victor Ipkeazu.

It's so bad that my Dad got a government work side hustle as a retiree, they still owed him.

Abroad is the best for programmers. Most people who started learning to code a year ago abroad are now with atleast a paid internship, some of them are not that good sef. In some certain European countries, some of them are employed then taught how to code on the job while earning.

I see them celebrate everyday on Twitter and LinkedIn. It's just so easy for those guys, even their freelancers are finding it too easy on upwork and Co.

Man, my own future ambition is to leave this country before I'm 30.

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