Does John 15:13 Really Talks About The Greatest Love?
John 15:13
[13]Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Lots of us are quite conversant with the verse above, nevertheless, many of us do not know what the verse means at all. Perhaps we will get the full meaning of that verse if we read it in contrast with Romans 5:8. Let's see what that verse says.
Romans 5:8
[8]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Looking at the two verses above, there is a sharp contrast. A man died for his friends and Christ died for sinners, not friends. Romans 5:6-8 clearly brings it out.
Romans 5:6-7
[6]For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
[7]For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Friends are often good folks, the good people we share the same thing with. Generally, friends are likeable people. Now Jesus said, "greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." That verse speaks of the love of man and the height of that love. No man dies for his enemy. No man dies for evil people. The height of human love is to die for his friends (friends here will include generally all the good people around that person, including his family). Jesus Christ in John 15:13 was talking about loving as a man or rather how man loves. The love of man does not transcend dying (making sacrifice) for ones friends or those that are likeable to one.
Now according to Romans 5:7, it is even very scarce for a righteous or good man to find someone who will die for him. Yet that is the height of the love of man, nonetheless it is very scarce to find. Am I disputing the fact that he referred to the disciples as friends in that verse? No, I am not. Jesus was only espousing love to them, albeit in the human language that they can easily understand. More so, He was also teaching them the height of the love of man.
The love of Christ for us transcends what is described in John 15:13. Jesus was teaching His disciples the highest any man could ever love in that verse. The love of God for us is far greater than the love of man described in John 15:13. We only need to put John 15:13 beside Romans 5:6-8 and we will see a very big difference.
Looking at that John 15:13 closely, we see a man loving and dying for his friends. Where is the Grace in that? Selah! Where is Grace in one man dying for his good friends? The love in that place is merited and not gracious one bit. The love of our Abba Father is not so. Friends are people who are in one's good books. Human love does not transcend making sacrifice for one's friends. This kind of love is merited and conditional. The love of man does not transcend death, but the love of God does. Let me leave you with this little thought-provoking question. If John 15:13 really describes the height of God's love for us, is it not the case that there are certain human beings (history is filled with people who have died for others out of sheer love) who have the capacity to love just as God Himself? The true meaning of John 15:13 is that no man can love beyond dying for another. Is that the limit of God's love too? Watch out for the second part in order to have the full picture.

Yadid:
Does John 15:13 Really Talks About The Greatest Love?
John 15:13
[13]Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Romans 5:8
[8]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Looking at the two verses above, there is a sharp contrast. A man died for his friends and Christ died for sinners, not friends. Romans 5:6-8 clearly brings it out.

Friends are often good folks, the good people we share the same thing with.

You have made yourself an example of "bad thinking, bad product".

Did you not see that evil people, love evil people, therefore, they too have evil friends, sharing the same evil.things?

Hence proving the Truth of the statement "birds of the same feather flock together".

That same statement also applies in the world of evil people too, so you have fallen here.

And there is no contrast nor contradiction for John 15:13 is A Proverb exactly as the "birds of the same feather" proverb applied to men and men do not have feathers.

Whilst Romans 5:6-8 clearly explains what God did.

Yadid:

No man dies for his enemy. No man dies for evil people.

And this is where your other brothers from one of Satan's wives have deceived people with there "Grace" teaching.

For Grace is given to ONLY THOSE Who have Obeyed The Law and not to those who disregard it.

Hence, evil men are not under nor covered by the Sacrifice of the Lamb.

Yadid:

The height of human love is to die for his friends (friends here will include generally all the good people around that person, including his family).

True!

But do people do so?

As you truly said "The love of man does not transcend dying [(making sacrifice) Dying] for ones friends or those that are likeable to one."

Yadid:

Now according to Romans 5:7, it is even very scarce for a righteous or good man to find someone who will die for him.

A Righteous man does not need anyone to die for him for, he is safe from Trouble.

It is rather the sinner who needs to pay his debts of sin, which is the payment of death, for he gave deaths, in Accordance with The Law.

But the Rightfull man's debt is Life, for he gave Lifes, thus, Lifes will be given him, in accordance with The Law.

Yadid:

Yet that is the height of the love of man, nonetheless it is very sarce to find.

Surely, you must understand that the-dead, can not die for the-dead, for their dying is a trouble unto them, neither do they have Life to give to another person.

But it is The-Living, Who have Life or Lifes and therefore, they can give Life.

Thus, The Truth of The Law, "You can only give what you have".

Christ Lived and had Life, therefore, He could give Life and thus, Gave Life.

But the-dead have death, therefore, they can Only give death and must give death.

Yadid:
Looking at that John 15:13 closely, we see a man loving and dying for his friends. Where is the Grace in that? Selah. Where is Grace in one man dying for his good friends?

As I said earlier, Grace is not given to Law breakers (Enemies) but to Law Obeyers (Friends)

Yadid:

The love in that place is merited and not gracious one bit.

If it was merited it would not be Grace but "Qualification".

Grace is not qualification but "the granting of A Good and Favour to the Receivee of it" (like scoring 46/100 where 50 is the pass mark in your exams yet the Lecturer still gave you a pass. You have just received "Grace" from him, even though you fell short of the mark. Grace pushed you to the mark)

Yadid:

The love of our Abba Father is not so.

The Love of God is So, which is why He declared His intention that He is not happy that men should die, BUT NOMETHELESS, HIS WORD, THE LAW, MUST RUN ITS SET COURSE.

Yadid:

Let me leave you with this little thought-provoking question. If John 15:13 really describes the height of God's love for us, is it not the case that there are certain human beings (history is filled with people who have died for others out of sheer love) who have the capacity to love just as God Himself?

As I said earlier up, the-dead do not have Life to give ONLY DEATH. Thus, their dying for another, is a nullity.

But Christ's Own was not!

Yadid:

The true meaning of John 15:13 is that no man can love beyond dying for another

Giving Life to another is the highest and the greatest gifts that can be given a person, for all other gifts eg house, healing, food are less in that they are and can only be received and valued by the living and not the-dead or the-dying.

Yadid:

Is that the limit of God's love too? Watch out for the second part in order to have the full picture.

Nope!

But all that we have received from God is all we are to receive from Him.

Any other thing is above our grade, exactly as it is nonsensical to give a car to a baby.