BKayy:

Your behaviour here showed how toothless you are to non Igbo but vocal when it is time to push Ndigbo under the bus.
Step aside, let me handle all of them on behalf of the Good people of Ndokwa.


Madam kmcutez, your turn to be clarified.
First of all you have to acknowledge and accept that Africa is a patrichal society. So the ethnicity of the father of a child goes a long way in dictating the identity of the child.
You've been bent on your mother's Igbo name to prove that Isoko bears igbo name but never mentioned anything about your father, his ethnic or clue about his own name. No two Isoko parents will give birth and name the baby full Igbo names except as a tribute to an Igbo man who can be a very close family friend or mentor (eg Ex Gov Rotimi Amaechi).
The question here should not be the Igbo name of your mother but the ethnicity of your father.
If your father is Isoko, forget the Igbo name of your mother. You are Isoko.
If the father of your mother is Isoko and due to some circumstances she was given Igbo name, She is also Isoko.

Isoko doesn't own Ndokwa or Igbo lands in Bayelsa. Any Isoko in Ndokwa is simply a mere extremely small fraction. They dont represent Ndokwa. Ndokwa is Igbo although the contemporary people say they are Bini.
Thank you

igbo is not recognized in bayelsa, while ndokwa is joint own by both ethnic groups

Abohboy:



You realize that different areas can have different people living within them right? And that different ethnic groups can be within a single LGA? If you don't know this then you're an idiot becaus that should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about Nigeria, Delta State has 5 major ethnic groups including Igbo, Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri and Ijaw and where i'm from Aboh is an igbo community

aboh is just a single town in ndokwa east

isokomarine:
we can't never be igbo. Don jazzy mother is from abia while his father is from isoko part of ndokwa east

did i say you are Igbo? what does Ifeanyi, Onwuneme and Enebeli mean in Isoko?

BKayy:

Nna same here. I don't want anything to do with those people. Instead, we will dash them the whole of Ndokwa.
The Bini that Ika brought to us is enough wahala

The only thing I see there is Isoko giving the people confused about their Igboness the Isoko tag like a pet. They are free to remain in confusion if that is their wish

Efewestern:


What's the meaning?

Haven't heard of such name.

you can find such name among isoko people of ndokwa

ZZ22:
did i say you are Igbo? what does Ifeanyi, Onwuneme and Enebeli mean in Isoko?

during colonial time isoko were divided into two parts, one isoko mainland were added to Eastern urhobo while the island were included in aboh division before the creation of local government with relation, you will expect some isoko people bearing such name

BKayy:

You claim to know your history and to an extent that of Ndigbo but a lady from Ndokwa East (which your Aboh is the HQ) is proving beyond Reasonable doubt here that both You and her are Isoko and all you can do is attempt to sabotage what Ndigbo have worked for over the years.
Mtcheww, Nwokem go and sit down one place let's enjoy this lady's submission

You need to pipedown so you learn what you don't know. I understand your apprehension about Abohboy but you must stay open to learning for clarity sake. Myself I'm learning from this thread.

BKayy:

Thanks for yielding on time before we dive deeper into history so that you won't disgrace yourself and the entire Isoko people further.
Okolo being Bini? Mtcheww
Make Bini people no catch you

I yielded on time because I noticed everything was becoming a supremacy battle for you and not you wanting to argue intellectually.

So yes, you win and I was wrong. Thanks for your time.

BKayy:

Your behaviour here showed how toothless you are to non Igbo but vocal when it is time to push Ndigbo under the bus.
Step aside, let me handle all of them on behalf of the Good people of Ndokwa.


Madam kmcutez, your turn to be clarified.
First of all you have to acknowledge and accept that Africa is a patrichal society. So the ethnicity of the father of a child goes a long way in dictating the identity of the child.
You've been bent on your mother's Igbo name to prove that Isoko bears igbo name but never mentioned anything about your father, his ethnic or clue about his own name. No two Isoko parents will give birth and name the baby full Igbo names except as a tribute to an Igbo man who can be a very close family friend or mentor (eg Ex Gov Rotimi Amaechi).
The question here should not be the Igbo name of your mother but the ethnicity of your father.
If your father is Isoko, forget the Igbo name of your mother. You are Isoko.
If the father of your mother is Isoko and due to some circumstances she was given Igbo name, She is also Isoko.

Isoko doesn't own Ndokwa or Igbo lands in Bayelsa. Any Isoko in Ndokwa is simply a mere extremely small fraction. They dont represent Ndokwa. Ndokwa is Igbo although the contemporary people say they are Bini.
Thank you

My dad and his dad are both from Aboh my dad's traditional name is Obinna I said my dad's mother is from Anambra so ultimately I am Igbo I never mentioned my mother once

BKayy:

You know you are lying but you think it's cool because you don't know the implications.
I will allow you to finish before I let you know

Igo******!

kmcutez:


I’m a female. Why should I lie?

Because you are female

BKayy:

Well, since your mom said she is from Aboh, Abohboy will clarify you.
Whatever he says is fine by me. If he confirms her people (Aboh) is either Isoko or Bini, I am OK with it.
Thank you

Aboh is a mixed town and so is the whole of Ndokwa land both Igbo and Isoko live there, in Aboh town there are different divisions or quarters for different ethnic groups other the years different people came and set up base in Aboh but it was ultimately an Igbo area so to assimilate the Isoko immigrants had to make their names Igbo and even celebrate Igbo festivals held in Aboh.

OfoIgbo:


Because you are female

Lol. It came out wrong.

BKayy:

Nobody said you are Igbo but thank God you managed to prove my post right.
Your Father and Mother who are Isoko made sure non of your siblings bear Emeka or Chiamaka which proves that no two Isoko parents can name their Children Full Igbo names for no reason.
As for your mother. Find out how she got her Igbo name.
Even if she is full blooded igbo, that still doesn't make you Igbo because your own father is not.
You are a full Isoko lady my dear but your identity doesn't decide that of your local Government or Neighbours.
Ndokwa is Igbo land.
I hope this helps.
Thank you

If she truly has 2 Igbo sounding names then matter don get kleg.

ZZ22:
Where is Don Jazzy from? They wrote in Wikipedia he is Isoko but Don Jazzy once said he is Igbo. Meanwhile his father's full name is Collins Ifeanyi Owuneme Ajere Enebeli.

I'm not saying Isoko is Igbo and I dont want them to be.

Wahala dey!

BKayy:

Ndokwa East must be Bini. Ask Abohboy
He is the Bini representative of Ndokwa people home and abroad on nairaland

The arguments here begs one question!

What is the exact authentic history of Isoko!

BKayy:

Ndokwa East must be Bini. Ask Abohboy
He is the Bini representative of Ndokwa people home and abroad on nairaland

This is cyber bullying. Accept his identity as he projects it and treat him accordingly.

A quick search on Google.


Screenshot from : (PDF) Origins of the Isoko People of South-Central Nigeria Reconsidered.

SlayerForever:



This is cyber bullying. Accept his identity as he projects it and treat him accordingly.

Abohboy:


Aboh is a mixed town and so is the whole of Ndokwa land both Igbo and Isoko live there, in Aboh town there are different divisions or quarters for different ethnic groups other the years different people came and set up base in Aboh but it was ultimately an Igbo area so to assimilate the Isoko immigrants had to make their names Igbo and even celebrate Igbo festivals held in Aboh.

Read this post from the horses mouth.
You are welcome

ZZ22:
The only thing I see there is Isoko giving the people confused about their Igboness the Isoko tag like a pet. They are free to remain in confusion if that is their wish

Exactly

BKayy:




Read this post from the horses mouth.
You are welcome

Where does it say that I AM not Igbo? Same way Brass and Bonny have Igbo and Kalabari so does Ndokwa have Aboh and Isoko

BKayy:




Read this post from the horses mouth.
You are welcome

If it is about the claim in the second paragraph he is 100% correct. It seems you're not familiar with that issue. Check Ibrede, Igbuku, Onogboko, Osafo, Ige etc etc.

SlayerForever:



If it is about the claim in the second paragraph he is 100% correct. It seems you're not familiar with that issue. Check Ibrede, Igbuku, Onogboko, Osafo, Ige etc etc.

LOL. You guys did not discern what Bkayy is doing here. He is just paying back... If this were the Ijaw guys here or other landgrabbing fellas, there are so many things they would do with this. Just like them claiming Ndoki in Abia state.

But the truth is that most of the Igbos here are just in search for the truth and correct the wrongs that have been left unattended to for years. You guys are not here for confusion but clarity.

However, these other guys are not playing by the same rule. So, Bkayy is just playing a game. LOL.

Efewestern:


Lying? What will I benefit from lying?

First, I've given you all use of okoro amongst the Edoid groups and second, some of these groups had no contact with igbo, so it's just impossible for them to borrow a word from a group of people they never had contact with.

Okoro was used by ancient Bini kingdom and we all know how the Bini influenced most groups in southern Nigeria, that was how tribes like Itsekiri and Ilaje got to make use of it. Definitely, Urhobo being a direct offshoot of Bini kept its usage.

Okoro is derived from the Edoid word "Oko". Oko When translated into English means Young man.

I will rather think the "oko" root word is from the ancient proto-kwa language. (Ok)urin is man in Yoruba. Oke/Oko is male in Igbo. Even Idoma has a similar word (I think something like Oklo) for male. These languages are all related and from a single source. It has very little with one group influencing the other.

Ofodirinwa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQa7jUozajE

Found a man trying to teach Isoko on Youtube

So far I've learned

1. Ere - Eating
2. Enve - Monkey
3. Anye - Women
4. Omu - Child

What if I tell you that ;

Anye= Onye
Omu= Umu ?

kmcutez:


Yeah. Ufoma is isoko name. Can also be spelt as Ufuoma.

I know one aunty in our area bearing Ufoma Akonaghovwo (I am not so sure I get the spelling of the surname well). She is Urbobo

Collyweed:


I will rather think the "oko" root word is from the ancient proto-kwa language. (Ok)urin is man in Yoruba. Oke/Oko is male in Igbo. Even Idoma has a similar word (I think something like Oklo) for male. These languages are all related and from a single source. It has very little with one group influencing the other.

Never thought it this way. Thanks for your input.

Indeed we all came from a single root.

..

Efewestern:

What's your name?
We have some Urhobo names that sound igboid but aren't.
Umukoro is one good example.
In igbo, it can be translated into Umu-okoro (Children of Okoro)
but in Urhobo it means Umuko-oro (Golden Cup).
If you tell me your name, I will give you its Edoid translation.

Before you continue ur lies. Which language is edoid..

Efewestern:


Lying? What will I benefit from lying?

First, I've given you all use of okoro amongst the Edoid groups and second, some of these groups had no contact with igbo, so it's just impossible for them to borrow a word from a group of people they never had contact with.

Okoro was used by ancient Bini kingdom and we all know how the Bini influenced most groups in southern Nigeria, that was how tribes like Itsekiri and Ilaje got to make use of it. Definitely, Urhobo being a direct offshoot of Bini kept its usage.

Okoro is derived from the Edoid word "Oko". Oko When translated into English means Young man.

Lai mohammed will be proud of you...

You lie with so much ease.

oyatz:


I know one aunty in our area bearing Ufoma Akonaghovwo (I am not so sure I get the spelling of the surname well). She is Urbobo

UFUOMA is the correct spelling and it means Peace.