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Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Nobody: 7:51am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf:It is very clear you are just reacting to details you dont know. Have you seen the contract? Have you read the details? Have you downloaded it? Did you read the claim of France? Did France complain of breach of contract? Use your head. Read details before you comment. A contract you have not read the details and you are bild to best your chest about. Get the crap outta my mention. Dullar.d! |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by JuanDeDios: 7:52am On Sep 19, 2021 |
gnykelly:But it isn't. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 7:55am On Sep 19, 2021 |
PeaceJoyLove: See the kind of childish clowns on Nairaland. I just made a comment on how contracts work based on the complains France themselves made. You yourself were telling them to let it go and I was pointing out to you that no country has ever done that. Some even go as far as seeking arbitration in world courts. Now you have resorted to insults because you can't even defend your claims with logic. I don't blame you. It should have been clear you are a king of morons from your claims about them forgetting the contract. What a joke. A man cannot think beyond the abilities of his mental faculties. What a clown 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by JuanDeDios: 7:57am On Sep 19, 2021 |
OriOko88:WW2? French forces? The UK only provided naval assistance? |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by EMAXIM(m): 7:57am On Sep 19, 2021 |
olugabbie: What do you even know about world politics bro? Let me engage you a little then; why should France be bitter? When France alligned with China sometimes ago America were never embittered. That's was the reason I made the first post you quoted. I'm a statistician, at least I know a bit about operational research so called by British, Americans call it management science. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by mu2sa2: 8:00am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Britain and US behaving like oduduwa descendants and nyamiris - no matter how close and how long you have known these treacherous people, they will stab you in the back at some point. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 8:04am On Sep 19, 2021 |
EMAXIM: Stop comparing apples and oranges. France didn't align with China by canceling any monetary deal they had with the US. It's not the same thing. Even the US will complain bitter if the same thing happened to them. I don't know why we always like to argue with bias on Nairaland. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Nobody: 8:08am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf:The joke is on you. Go and read your claim on DNA also. Your mu.mu is raised to the power of infinity. Your brain did not tell you that France did not accuse Australia of breach of contract. If it is the case, na court straight. But what do they say? Answer na. France has no case and is not going to court, so that should tell you that there is no breach in contract. And I asked you that did you read the contract to know there was a breach? You are a clown trying to be educated, but you are an illiterate. You need to grow up and replace the fufu brain of yours. Just roaming around NL and dropping rubbish. If you were a lawyer, your clients are in soup. Get the crap outta my mention if you still dont get what breach of contract means and how to spot one. Just a simple diagnostic sense to scan the whole thing you dont know. Mumu, France is banking on good faith. There is no arrangement made yet. If there was, France would have listed everything out. All the other stuff done, we will assume Australia paid France and there was no debt. And if there was any debts that is what France should tackle. And face it squarely. Let me teach you like a kid that you are. France would do same again and again. Do you know how France is holding and even betraying those African French speaking countries? Between Franxe and Australia, from record ....France is the bigger betrayal. Go and read history well. France is talking about good faith and that she is left out of the new deal. That is all. Australia saw a better deal with the US and decided to quit that with France. Shikena. The money dem don make is enough. If there is any amount to pay, let France approach international court. Do you want Austrslia to get broke? More so....France should get into humanity development more. And not into war weapons development. All of them should stop nuclear and submarine rubbish. Contract or no contract. You are just focused on the money alone cos that is who you are. Get the crap outta my mention and grow. I will school you about contract. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by EMAXIM(m): 8:12am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf: I'm not being bias bro, it's called preference. Australia wants to cut cost and still attain optimum satisfaction. Take yourself to be in their shoes. Mind you, they are not also rans like African countries |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 8:15am On Sep 19, 2021 |
PeaceJoyLove: Why couldn't you just have made your counter without insults? First it was a breach of a contract and a deal. France does not want to go to court because it doesn't expect to do that with an ally. And the fact that 2 other allies are the ones stabbing it in the back is why it has decided to take them directly. It is looking for other forms of compensation. Please I am waiting for you to present what is wrong with any claims I made about the DNA on the thread you saw it. I will be willing to learn from you if you show any knowledge in the subject matter. The fact that you are bringing things unrelated to the discussion shows your immaturity. It takes a subhuman to quickly turn to insults and display of crass stupidity instead of just countering back with valid points. I am waiting for you to make sense on this thread and so far you have demonstrated you are incapable of it. The only thing I have seen from you are infantile tantrums and sheer petulance. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 8:19am On Sep 19, 2021 |
EMAXIM: Of course, Australia has every right to do what they want. France also has a right to protest any perceived unfair treatment. We can't just expect them to just keep quiet on it. That will send a wrong signal to other allies that they can just renege on agreements with France without consequences. France is just making all these noise to prevent that and also to get compensated by US and Australia some other way. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by EMAXIM(m): 8:23am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf: Exactly boss. You hit the nail on the exact spot |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by alfredilly: 8:24am On Sep 19, 2021 |
MrsDot: Bestie for where? Cat and rat life |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by cyrilamx(m): 8:33am On Sep 19, 2021 |
ttmacoy: |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by NEROSKY(m): 8:34am On Sep 19, 2021 |
blamingthedevil:Abd you forget how France is currently milking 14 African country of 500 billion annually.. France is core criminal same as UK & US, they don't have the right to protest.stupid people!! 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by cyrilamx(m): 8:35am On Sep 19, 2021 |
ttmacoy:lol.Francis aided the US to gain independence from Britain cos Britain defeated them earlier on in war. Well France should know blood is thicker than water. I tell you the US and Britain are more like son and mother relationship. They re more bonded than France. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by alfredilly: 8:36am On Sep 19, 2021 |
bjdon: They hate anything from the English speaking world. That also explain their insecurity at this Anglo-American comnectiom |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by NEROSKY(m): 8:37am On Sep 19, 2021 |
deleo16: Have been reading comment to find this, you get sense.. France and UK are the biggest destroyers of the world, France is currently ruining the lives of people in 14 countries of Africa. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by alfredilly: 8:40am On Sep 19, 2021 |
deleo16: I wrote this in the previous thread on this issue yesterday,- Massive eaction from France over the loss of 65 billion deal, an insignificant sum considering the level of wealth being shared amongst the developed nation of the world. Macron body language will fuel suspicion from allies as to his inner intent which isn't about the monetary loss and the indo-pacific relevance. The French wouldn't have made much of an issue out of this if UK, hadn't been involved. The bitterness over Great Britain relevance in the deal is what unsettle France. France is a notable Anglophobic country. There is a common rhetorics that the French don't feel comfortable whenever English made a headline. This feeling is also reciprocated at the other side of the atlantic but the French sometimes take it over the edge. And in recemt time, following Britain withdrawal from EU, it has assumed a much more political dimension. The feeling of threat is also more intensified as the three AUKUS nation are all English speaking. This may sent a strong message of Anglophilic connection 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by kjhova(m): 8:47am On Sep 19, 2021 |
EMAXIM: Ok, I'd fill you in on the basics. Australia needed a strategic response to Chinese expansion in the Asia-Pacific region. In the Trump America first era, they had no one else to turn to except France who agreed to supply them diesel powered submarines + maintenance, training etc. Contract is underway, the french has gone on to invest heavily in prep to production, the returns has been factored into future plans, only for the US & UK to secretly hijack the deal and announce the AUKUS (Australia-UK-US) security pact which includes supply of nuclear powered subs to Australia! Australia immediately cancelled the existing contract with France. The french are angered because: a) They are supposed to be best friends with the UK & US. Real friend's don't treat each other like that. b) If it's nuclear powered subs the Aussies want, France make those too. It could have renegotiated the deal. c) If indeed the fear is for China's rise, won't AUKUS be stronger as FAUKUS? why leave France out of it only to cheat her off a £65B deal? My small addition, China is rising and China will rise. Every nation has the right to rise. It is not a criminal ambition to rise. UK once ruled the world and the US is currently rulling it. Why all these shenanigans to stop China's rise? Hence AUKUS is a criminal gang up, IMVHO, against an innocent China. It will therefore fail and it's failure has heralded it's begining. 2 Likes |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by NybenSBF101(m): 8:47am On Sep 19, 2021 |
blamingthedevil: Don't forget that without French help, us will still be a British colony |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Nobody: 8:47am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf:Read your first post. You weren't nice with it. So, I decided to dash you what you deserved. You could have just stated your opinion without attacking my person.... "It is clear bla bla bla that I dont know how contract works and many other indirect insults". Just say the person is a mumu. Since you didnt have the balls to say so, I told you directly you are a du.llard who you are and you deserve direct insult. The dullard you talking and beating chest here that France doesnt want to go to court. Where is your proof? Oga, stop behaving like a kid. France is a guilty as all of them too. If France was in Australia's position, she would do worse. Go and read history and stop arguing blindly like a kid you are. If France has a case, let her face the court. Not you will start giving explanation. Like the Twitter slogan.... Who ask you to shalaye? I had to ask the meaning...and it means... who ask you to explain further. "Resist the urge to Shalaye" - resist the urge to explain further. Let France come out and say why she is or not going to court. Stop doing it for her. If you need materials to make you smart on international diplomacy, send a PM, I will dash you numerous. And also, there is an interview of Prof Bolaji Akinyemi (extra ordinary Nigerian ambassador) and two time foreign affairs minister of Nigeria. Professor made a thorough exposition on France and why she should not be trusted. He even scolded Buhari for aligning with France and begging her the last time. France is not that a nice nation of you want to know. Make your research very well. So, is it nuclear and submarine weapon these so called super countries should focus on? They are the ones developing virus and making money on vaccines. They aid Boko Haram so they can sell weapons and make money. Everyone knows what is going on. They see choppers wirh white men dropping arms and ammunitions for Boko Haram. Why develop weapons of war? For what? You develop yours, and you want to control others. France has one of the highest most sophisticated nuclear power ...yet she has very little land mass. For what are they developing these deadly weapons? Now that its clear she is not going to make gain, she is crying like a toddler.. and you that should even insult her is siding with her. Are you OK? Infact, let me drop Prof's interview here. Go and listen to it, consume it and stop arguing blindly. You are chatting with a knowledgeable man when it comes to international laws and diplomacy. I write contracts. I have used many templates....and I write Non disclosure agreements. I know my subject excellently. So, stop talking about what you dont know kid. Go and sit down. After this video I'm dropping, I will not dignify you with another response again. Goodluck with your "over sabi" - "I too know it all" attitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo2xFFYtScY |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by EMAXIM(m): 8:53am On Sep 19, 2021 |
kjhova: Thanks bro. Even though I was just catching cruise. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by kjhova(m): 8:57am On Sep 19, 2021 |
EMAXIM: It's all good sire. Someone else would find the brief useful, I guess. 2 Likes |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by EMAXIM(m): 8:58am On Sep 19, 2021 |
kjhova: Certainly. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by cyrilamx(m): 9:04am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Topmaike007:lol.Francis aided the US to gain independence from Britain cos Britain defeated them earlier on in war. Well France should know blood is thicker than water. I tell you the US and Britain are more like son and mother relationship. They re more bonded than France. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 9:09am On Sep 19, 2021 |
PeaceJoyLove: Still not making any sense yet boy. You are just typing long walls of text just to cover the fact that you can't defend your position. Most of the gibberish you wrote up there has nothing to do with our present discussion. You are just all over the place and incapable of a coherent write-up. Essay writing in secondary schools these days must be very bad. Please tell me what wasn't nice about what I said initially. I am beginning to think your problem with me isn't exactly on this thread. Maybe I have beaten you with logic on another of your monikers before so now you just have a chip on your shoulder. You have gone back to the bias I alluded to in my first comment to you on this thread. What has not trusting France got to do with the present subject? You are all over the place bringing things that doesn't matter into the discussion and trying to appeal to authority in the face of your fallacious statements. I just realised that insults are your coping mechanism. The moment you realize you can't answer something you resort to trying to make it into a quarrel to disguise your ineptitude. Now you are claiming you are a knowledgeable man. So because I disagreed with you your ego is so bruised that you feel the need to announce and exaggerate your achievements in life right? That explains your initial tantrums. It was borne out of a poverty of self-esteem. That explains why you see any disagreement with you as an insult on your already-diminished intelligence and feel the need to lash out like a cornered reptile. I feel sorry for you bro Now that I now understand the psychological ailment plaguing you let me help your life. Here is a link that discusses the contract: https://www.google.com/amp/s/7news.com.au/politics/defence/france-angry-at-submarine-deal-duplicity-c-4003106.amp I have added a screenshot below to show you it's a contract, Mr I-Am-Very-Knowledeable. What a joke The sad thing is that we could have had a respectful conversation if you had just pointed out the part of my comment you didn't like and would have been justified if I didn't apologize or clarify the perceived insult. But instead you started flailing about in pain and quickly ran to another thread I created like a child to disgrace yourself. What a shameless clown. LMAO
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Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by MrsDot(f): 9:10am On Sep 19, 2021 |
alfredilly: |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by MrsDot(f): 9:16am On Sep 19, 2021 |
GenAbacha:I know lol.... |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by kunleham(m): 9:30am On Sep 19, 2021 |
blamingthedevil:And French rescued American from Britain otherwise American might still remain under British rule! |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by cyrilamx(m): 9:32am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Meninmen:Do you know that not even the US could hv built the first atomic bomb without the British? At the height of WWII, the British Security Coordination hearded Churchill trusted aid-Stephenson, the man Churchill code-named the Intrepid, helped extracted the then world most famous atomic scientist-Niels Bohr out of Nazi Denmark with a twin engine moon plane to the UK, from where he was flown to Manhattan desert to build the atomic bomb. Originally, the British were even racing ahead to build it before the Nazis, but the prosecution of the war in which they now stood alone after France fell to the Nazis, made them to seek the financial aid of the US who were still observing the doctrine of isolationism. Even when Churchill intimated the US, very few Americans--the president and even few of his trusted aides, not even vice president Truman knew of what was going on in Manhattan desert. It was all a British projects until funds were needed, hence they shipped the projects to the US. In otherworld, the Brits sold the secret of atomic bombs to the US, not other way round. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by chuckdelis: 9:46am On Sep 19, 2021 |
bjdon: They are nobody's friend. |
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