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Re: Explain Mathew 16:28 by gasparpisciotta: 6:30pm On Sep 24, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Let’s take it one at a time. Where is the paradise of God? Where is the kingdom of Jesus? Where is the kingdom of God? If Jesus would judge us all before entering his kingdom, then why would the case of the thief on the right hand be different? Provide answers please |
Re: Explain Mathew 16:28 by Ayo081(m): 6:34pm On Sep 24, 2021 |
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Re: Explain Mathew 16:28 by Bigdaddymuge: 10:16pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Many different explanations have been suggested about what Jesus meant by this prediction. Most scholars and commentators agree He was referring to the "transfiguration," literally the very next event mentioned by Matthew. Jesus will be transfigured from His fully human form into His glorious kingdom appearance as the Son of God. His face will shine like the sun, and His clothes will become white as light (Matthew 17:1–2). Peter, James, and John will be eyewitnesses to this event. A smaller number of interpreters believe Jesus was implying that the disciples would not die before seeing Him resurrected, or seeing the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, or seeing increasing numbers of people believe in Jesus following His resurrection and return to heaven. An even smaller number of scholars connect this prediction of Jesus to the destruction of the Jewish temple in AD 70 or to the second coming of Christ. The transfiguration seems to be the most natural fit for Jesus' prediction here, especially since it follows so quickly after this moment. Peter, James, and John are truly given a glimpse of Jesus in the full glory of His natural state in the kingdom of heaven—something extraordinarily rare among living people. https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/16/Matthew-16-28.html |
Re: Explain Mathew 16:28 by Kobojunkie: 10:30pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
gasparpisciotta:1. It is related to the Old Covenant and so the location of Paradise is not made known in the New Covenant. 2 & 3. The Kingdom of God belongs to Jesus Christ the one who is heir and King in the Kingdom of God. According to Jesus Christ, the Kingdom of God is in and all around us. No need to look for it!. 4. Jesus Christ came to give us a New Law, the New Covenant. The thief on the cross was instead of the Old Law, so His case was judged according to the Old and not the New Law. Now as to why Jesus Christ pardoned the thief on the cross for his sins, I believe it has something to do with God's declaration in Ezekiel 33 vs 9 -20, a decree that Zacchaeus is said to have also benefited from. 10 “So, son of man, speak to the family of Israel for me. They might say, ‘We have sinned and broken the law. Our sins are too heavy to bear. We rot away because of them. What can we do to live?’Verse 19 is what I believe the thief on the cross was judged on. |
Re: Explain Mathew 16:28 by Kobojunkie: 3:54pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
gasparpisciotta:UPDATE: Following the conversation that Jesus Christ had with the thief on the cross, it turns out paradise literally means the grave, and yes, the dead aren't conscious or asleep— it is written in scripture and Jesus Christ Himself confirmed this in the case of Lazarus, His friend — and so the content of Luke 16 is confirmed a parable by that. The promise that Jesus Christ made to the thief on the cross is that he, the thief, would be with Him, Jesus Christ, in paradise that same day. And we confirm from what is written Jesus Christ was in the grave that very same day and remained there for 3 days afterward. Invariably, Jesus Christ's promise to the thief was that he, the thief, would die that same day as opposed to hanging alive on the cross for many days after, which was a common occurrence for many of the victims of crucifixion back then. So, indeed, the thief on the cross was judged by God according to His Old Law Standard as stated by God in Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 10 and as such He did gain righteousness by that standard, granting Him eternal life after death. But no, the thief did not enter the Kingdom of God --- he will not have a part in Heaven as a result --- and as such can only benefit of God's Old Law promise detailed in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. . |
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