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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Izuchukwu18(m): 10:17am On Dec 09, 2021
OfficialAPCNig:

Ebi2233

Adakaboro8



No epie ethnic nationality are not ijaw,God bless the good people of epie.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Izuchukwu18(m): 10:33am On Dec 09, 2021
Ebi2233:
All Ijaw areas Igbos want to claim, they should go and do it physical, and not online.
It's like saying Kolokuma are from the Kala-Okun dynasty, and Kalabari is from the Perebo Mein Dynasty. Same with the Ogua Dynasty.
All of them are under Ijaw Youth Council Ijaw National Congress and the Lovers of Ijaw Nation Organization.
All the founders of dynasty end up coming from one Ijaw.
Go and claim them physical.


I'm Igbo from Mbaise in Imo state my Mbaise people want to join the INC and IYC political party,we are more than 100 in number,I hope we will be accepted like how the constitution said.izon iibe.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Igboid: 10:38am On Dec 09, 2021
Izuchukwu18:


I'm Igbo from Mbaise in Imo state my Mbaise people want to join the INC and IYC political party,we are more than 100 in number,I hope we will be accepted like how the constitution said.izon iibe.

You will be. If you can chant Izon Haa, Aswana! Egberi Faaa!
And prove that you have crude oil.
Language is not a requirement to be a member of the Ijaw franchise.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Allen102: 11:59am On Dec 09, 2021
Izuchukwu18:


Epie,engenni , kalabari , okirika are not ijaw but an ethnic nationality on their own.
Since when has any Wakirike announce to the world that we are not ijaws? Pray tell,I want to know.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by OBUKSBAYELSA: 12:13pm On Dec 09, 2021
Igboid:
They are not.
It's on record that Epie/Atissa people are proto Edoid people.

Their language is more or less related to Edoid languages like Isoko and Urhobo.

Also Degema(Udekeme) are not Ijaws too.
Degema people are proto Edoid people like Epie people too.

Wonderful and Truthful.
Going through the article I did ask myself where is the Urhobo and Isoko people in all these arguments. The Uses are stylishly claiming all riverine community as thiers. Truth must be told no matter how it hurts that epie atissa and many of those that populates our Riverine Communities are not ijaws but are claimed for Political Purpose.

Epie people has a history of originating from Bini, and unlike the Ikwerre and other Igboid groups who fabricated Bini origin stories, Epie Edoid language validates and authenticates their Bini origin claim.
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by BlackSaints: 10:30pm On Dec 11, 2021
kmcutez:


What language group do the kalabari’s and okirika’s belong to?
The language spoken by my people (Okrika) is part of the ijo group.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Ofodirinwa: 7:02am On Apr 27, 2023
You can settle this by asking if Epie and Ijaw speak the same language?
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 2:48pm On Apr 27, 2023
OfficialAPCNig:

Ebi2233

Adakaboro8
Epies are Ijaws... Any other question?
Or where you don't understand
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 2:51pm On Apr 27, 2023
Igboid:
They are not.
It's on record that Epie/Atissa people are proto Edoid people.

Their language is more or less related to Edoid languages like Isoko and Urhobo.

Also Degema(Udekeme) are not Ijaws too.
Degema people are proto Edoid people like Epie people too.

Epie people has a history of originating from Bini, and unlike the Ikwerre and other Igboid groups who fabricated Bini origin stories, Epie Edoid language validates and authenticates their Bini origin claim.
no...here is the fact.

tribes that stand their ground to reject igbos forceful annexation

Ebonyians,
Nsukka ethnicity.
Ikwere ethnicity
Anioma.

these ethnicities that speak different languages from igbo were in multiple occasions forced by igbos to identify with them,,,but they refused and stood their ground.

The great Ebonyians are been attacked several time by the Igbos because they refused to be subjugated to igbo tribe

those ethnicities are doing really great as they don't accept the false igbo identity...so Igbos are angry and calling them osus

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 2:53pm On Apr 27, 2023
Ekealterego:

Degema, Engenni, Epie Attisa are all one group of related Ogua people.. They are even reviving their Ogua ethnic nationality. And as you stated correctly, they are basically all related to the Isokos and Urhobos.
no.... Ebonyi people now doing great because they have refused the false igbo identity.. that's why you people are calling them osus.

Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 2:55pm On Apr 27, 2023
SlayerForever:



I guess it is things fall apart for the Ijaw pseudoethnicity.
no.....it bad market for igbos..

tribes that stand their ground to reject igbos forceful annexation

Ebonyians,
Nsukka ethnicity.
Ikwere ethnicity
Anioma.

these ethnicities that speak different languages from igbo were in multiple occasions forced by igbos to identify with them,,,but they refused and stood their ground.

The great Ebonyians are been attacked several time by the Igbos because they refused to be subjugated to igbo tribe

those ethnicities are doing really great as they don't accept the false igbo identity...so Igbos are angry and calling them osus

Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:02pm On Apr 27, 2023
Igboid:


Epie is not Ijaw, whether online or offline.

See what Epie people offline are saying:https://theeagleonline.com.ng/epie-atissa-political-albatross-time-for-empathy-by-etete-enideneze/

Epies are Ijaws..


we are not like you ibos that claimed people with total different language..

How does ebonyi people language resemble igbo language?

Ebonyi tribe will speak from A to Z and igbo people will not understand anything.

Nsukka ethnicity will speak from A to Z Igbos will never understand anything.

so why disturbing and fighting these good and great people to identify with igbo?
light and darkness cannot comprehend..
igbo language and ebonyi language and Nsukka people languages are like light and darkness..

Ebonyians must keep speaking up

Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:10pm On Apr 27, 2023
Pass11:


Epie/Atissa in Yengoa Local Government Area, core host of the Bayelsa State Capital, is marginalized in the state’s power sharing equation. Since democracy began in 1999, and in the 23 years of existence of Bayelsa State, Epie/Atissa has not held the governorship office in the state despite its vantage position as host. This is tantamount to a political curse on the people who have made huge sacrifices for the state.
But the Ijaw speaking ethnic group in the state, precisely Southern Ijaw and Sagbama subgroups have had opportunity to occupy governorship position twice each in substantive capacities.
Ogbia and Brass ethnic nationalities, with distinct languages from the Ijaw and Epie speaking groups, have similarly held governorship positions substantively.


Also, the Ijaw speaking areas of Ekeremor and Aleibiri and the Nembe speaking group, have equally occupied deputy governorship position at various times. The just mentioned subgroups have equally held speakership and deputy speakership positions, respectively.
Yet, Epie/Atissa that is not only host of the State Capital, but also a major group with distinct language, descent and geographical location, chosen by the Abacha Junta as the best for the state capital, though a part of the Ijaw larger tribe, has not being empathized in the sharing of the power ‘booty’ which is a major benefit from creation of the state.
Even in the recent sharing of power in the State House of Assembly, Epie/Atissa was not given any of the top positions. Perhaps, it is because the area has just one seat in the state legislature. Again, politics they say is a game of number, so the one-man representing Epie/Atissa, is perhaps perceived as having no political value to be given an important legislative position.
Well, no blames for any person other than one leader from the area whose apolitical and unprogressive argument at the time Houses of Assembly Constituencies were being created in the old River State in the Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida’s era, was that dividing Epie/Atissa into separate state constituencies would create disunity. The leader was sociologically right, but politically wrong in his submission which caused Epie/Atisaa a lone seat in the state legislature.
Epie/Atissa and other ethnic groups such as Okordia; Zarama; Biseni; Isoko; Gbarain; Ekpetiama; Kolokuma and Opokuma, almost share similar plight of political exclusion. However, among these groups, most of which have distinct but similar languages, Ekpetiama; Kolokuma and Opokuma have even had it better than the other clans just listed, in the allotment of state power.
For instance, recently, a son of Kolokuma emerged as Speaker of the House of Assembly. And in the past a son of Opokuma held deputy speakership position in the House of Assembly. Similarly, a son of Gbarain has served as speaker, deputy governor and acting governor, variously.
Indeed, the unending exclusion of Epie/Atissa from the power game has compelled its indigenes and non-indigenes alike to wag their tongues against the unpleasant treatment. Of course, the murmuring against non-inclusion of the host of the capital in the executive and legislative power base of the state is not misplaced.
Thus, the call today, is on political parties, politicians, the-powers-that-be and other ethnic groups to give Epie/Atissa a chance to get governorship ticket to contest this year’s gubernatorial election, and win with the support of the other areas it had supported in the past.
Otherwise, it could take another whole eight years for Epie/Atissa to get its slot. If that happens, the sentiments of exclusion, despite the pivotal position and sacrifice Epie/Atissa people have made for the take off and development of the state, might continue to disenchant them.
This call is imperative on many grounds such as the fact of Epie/Atissa making the highest sacrifice with its lands and other resources to peacefully and hospitably host the entire state, with the attendant negative social and economic impacts, not even properly mitigated.
Politicians and the electorate in Epie/Atissa have since 1999 to date, also being instrumental to the victory of the political blocs of Ijaw, Ogbia and Brass that hold sway in the state’s gubernatorial politics. Hence, in this dispensation, it is only natural to empathize and give a chance to the ‘beautiful bride’ usually wooed by the powerful blocs as ‘suitors’ to achieve political desires, but usually dumped after victory.
Epie/Atissa does not have ‘beautiful brides’ alone to be wooed it also has ‘handsome grooms’ to be wooed for successful political alliances. It has an array of resourceful men and women, who could be selected to provide effective political leadership needed for the overall widespread development of the state, hence should be tried this time around.
By its vantage position of being state capital, the population of Epie/Atissa, Yenagoa City and by extension its neighboring ethnic groups in Yenagoa Local Government Area, indigenes and non-indigenes has beefed up the numerical strength of the area for political advantage.
Thus, political parties and political leaders ought to take advantage of this development to project an Epie/Atissa son or daughter for the August party primary elections and even for the November 16, 2019 general election.
Elections over the years have been peaceful and hitch-free in Epie/Atissa, Yenagoa City and Yenagoa Local Government Area as a whole. Therefore, an Epie/Atissa governorship candidate from any of the political parties, preferably the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) that has conventional zoning arrangement, and dominates in the state but now has the All Progressives Congress (APC) to contend with, could be the potent winning strategy for that party.
More so, the development strides of Yenagoa State Capital and Bayelsa State as whole ought not to go on without an Epie/Atissa governor taking turn to make a mark for history to record.
A school of thought asserts that an Epie/Atissa person as governor could give Yenagoa, the State Capital a better facelift as well as also spread projects evenly to all parts of the state.
The school of thought expatiates that the Epie/Atissa person if allowed to be governor would see the State Capital as his home town and will develop it for the benefit of his people, Bayelsans and Non-Bayelsans alike, else earn a stigma that a son of the soil could not turn Yenagoa Captial and the state around.
Besides, a detibalised and exposed Epie/Atissa man or woman as governor, would carry every part of the state along in the distribution and implementation of people-oriented projects, through an agreed development plan,, to reciprocate past governors’ development gestures for Yenagoa. He or she would also be fair to all areas of the state, because elevation to the throne would have been achieved mostly with the support of other areas or ethnic groups, and above all God Almighty.
Three common perceptions persist against the people. One: that Epie/Atissa has got the biggest opportunity of hosting the state capital, which has brought development to the area more than other places, hence do not governorship power. This is a wrong notion because hosting a state capital does not take away a peoples’ right to rule.
Two: that governorship position is not given as appointment but obtained through rigorous political efforts, financial and numerical strength, thus Epie/Atissa should not expect it gratis.
Three: that the issue of who is to be governor of the state, should not ‘ethnicized’ because that could polarize the homogenous state, and also enthrone mediocrity.
These arguments do not seem to hold water, given that such fine points are waived aside when the big groups are sharing power in the supposed homogenous state that even has glaring language, historical and somewhat geographical or topographical divides that should be taking into cognizance.
Truly, there are impediments to an Epie/Atissa governorship project. But the facts marshaled out earlier in addition to the call for empathy from other areas and power-brokers, could reduce emphasis on the supposed obstacles to an Epie/Atissan emerging as governor of the state in this dispensation.
Weren’t there huge rocks on Ijaws’ and Niger Delta’s way to Aso Rock? There were! No one had even dreamt that one of our own will rule the country as President. Yet, it happened by God’s grace and with the sympathy and carnal orchestrations of the PDP and former President Olusegun Obasanjo who anointed Dr. Goodluck Jonathan, for Vice Presidential slot, from which the Ijaw man of Ogbia extraction turned president of the country.
That was equally the outcome of the wailings by the Ijaws, Niger Delta and the South-South zone, against political and economic marginalization in the hands of the Fulani-Hausa Oligarchy in connivance with the Yorubas who alternate power with them to expropriate revenues from the crude oil and gas in our region. In fact, the Izon presidency in Nigeria was a palliative to assuage the angry and impoverished oil rich region, despite lack of strengths of all kinds to win elections into such national positions.
Therefore, the Ijaws, Bayelsa State, its local government areas and political parties, should justify their rationales for crying out unabated against injustices meted against them by external forces in the Nigerian contraption, by being fair to others in their own enclave. They should do unto their brothers what they wish should be done to them, without which there will no longer be any moral justifications to cry against external political and economic marginalization of the Ijaws by the Nigerian elements.
The best way to do so is to give the sidelined people of Epie/Atissa a chance, and support them to produce the next governor for 2020, as they are bearing the greatest burden of hosting the capital, and as they have supported the main power blocs to win and rule the state.
That way, the other parts of the state will be seen as good brothers who appreciate the huge sacrifice of the Epie/Atissa people. And Bayelsa State will surely be more united for the internal and external challenges facing her.
The time to act righteously is now!
. Enideneze is a Media Practitioner/Public Affairs Analyst.
I cannot even read quarter of what you type..

but our cries go to the heavy marginalization of the minority ethnicities of south east by the majority igbo..

minorities like Nsukkas,,,Afikpos/Abakaliki,,igalas Ndoki Ijaws have been facing heavy marginalization from the Igbos for years now..

Justice for Ebonyi tribe.
Justice for Ijaw Ndoki.
Justice for Nsukka tribe.
Justice for Igala tribe.
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:14pm On Apr 27, 2023
Ekealterego:


Which of the Col. Dikio is Ijaw? Are you dreaming? Same one who was living in same Ikoyi when I was little? Same Mbiama man? You must be high on ogogoro.... I have been to Engenni more times than you could imagine and know many of them on a personal level from JK 1 to JK 2 to Akinima, no come here dey give us Bobo...

That is why these stupid Ijaw youths are protesting and do not want the man to succeed and they wanted him out of office because they realised the guy is not Ijaw.

Your brains have not told you yet that your IYC is a political party rather than an ethnic identity yet right? If Arewa wants to "join" today, they would.
Igbo is franchise na.. oya look

tribes that stand their ground to reject igbos forceful annexation

Ebonyians,
Nsukka ethnicity.
Ikwere ethnicity
Anioma.

these ethnicities that speak different languages from igbo were in multiple occasions forced by igbos to identify with them,,,but they refused and stood their ground.

The great Ebonyians are been attacked several time by the Igbos because they refused to be subjugated to igbo tribe

those ethnicities are doing really great as they don't accept the false igbo identity...so Igbos are angry and calling them osus

Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:23pm On Apr 27, 2023
OfficialAPCNig:

Insightful.

So the Nembes are not even Ijo?

Wahala dey oh
Nembes are confirmed Ijaws that speak the Ijaw language..

what is difference between Nembe and Akassa?

What is the difference between Akassa and Kolokuma?

What is the difference between Kolokuma and southern Ijaws?


we Ijaws speak same language with just tonal differences because of migration...... unlike igbo that is a conglomeration of different languages..

Ebonyi speaks different language.

Nsukka speak different language

Igbos also speak different language



but, Kolokuma man or Akassa man will understand Nembe very well.....but we Ijaws in delta cannot understand them because our dialect is too far from them
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:28pm On Apr 27, 2023
Izuchukwu18:


Epie,engenni , kalabari , okirika are not ijaw but an ethnic nationality on their own.
my man long time o... where were you all this while na?

Now back to truth..

we are not like you ibos that claimed people with total different language..

How does ebonyi people language resemble igbo language?

Ebonyi tribe will speak from A to Z and igbo people will not understand anything.

Nsukka ethnicity will speak from A to Z Igbos will never understand anything.

so why disturbing and fighting these good and great people to identify with igbo?
light and darkness cannot comprehend..
igbo language and ebonyi language and Nsukka people languages are like light and darkness..

Ebonyians must keep speaking up

Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:33pm On Apr 27, 2023
izac82:

You guys started it. when you started laying claims to Igboland and Igboid tribes, as far as Abia state, were you expecting a hug?
We could have worked together to build a formidable economy block this part of the the globe, but una say no. Go to your various groups on Facebook, 4 out of every topic is Igbo. You all are getting obsess with Igbos, just like ndi ofe nmanu.
there are no ibos in south south.. na me tok am....I Don come for una
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 3:56pm On Apr 27, 2023
izac82:

You have just one life, like every man on this planet, so stop running your mouth, Mr. Man.
You are a fucking mortal man that will die, so what's the noise for? Afo anu angry
Ijaws are immortals
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 4:02pm On Apr 27, 2023


What language group do the kalabari’s and okirika’s belong to?
Kalabari and Okrika speak Ijaw dialect..

Ijaw language is tonal,,, unlike igbo where people speak different languages and have different cultures..

no igbo man can ever in his entire life understand when an Ebonyi man is speaking..

Ebonyi people language has no single resemblance with igbo language...

but Ijaw language is not that differ....

Kalabari and Nembe can be understood by some bayelsa Ijaws....but only delta Ijaws cannot
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 4:06pm On Apr 27, 2023
Izuchukwu18:


I'm Igbo from Mbaise in Imo state my Mbaise people want to join the INC and IYC political party,we are more than 100 in number,I hope we will be accepted like how the constitution said.izon iibe.
I am Egbema man from edo, I want to join ohanaeze or ipob....hope I will be highly welcomed? I have money to pay...
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 4:10pm On Apr 27, 2023
Igboid:


You will be. If you can chant Izon Haa, Aswana! Egberi Faaa!
And prove that you have crude oil.
Language is not a requirement to be a member of the Ijaw franchise.
yes,,,,,I am from Egbema tribe,,,I will soon want to join ohanaeze.... because I know how to say ndigbo kwenu!!! Kwezuenu ooooo!!

igbo is franchise so no need to understand the language...,.. people like Ebonyi, Nsukka, Ikwere, Anioma, with their own different language also join the ohanaeze..

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 4:12pm On Apr 27, 2023
Ofodirinwa:
You can settle this by asking if Epie and Ijaw speak the same language?
yes,,we speak same language......we are not like ibo that speak different language from Ebonyi, Nsukka and Onitcha.
Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Ebi2233: 4:47pm On Apr 27, 2023
Captain8:
Kalabari and Okrika speak Ijaw dialect..

Ijaw language is tonal,,, unlike igbo where people speak different languages and have different cultures..

no igbo man can ever in his entire life understand when an Ebonyi man is speaking..

Ebonyi people language has no single resemblance with igbo language...

but Ijaw language is not that differ....

Kalabari and Nembe can be understood by some bayelsa Ijaws....but only delta Ijaws cannot
We in Kolokuma Clan understand Nembe to a very great level.

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Re: Are Epies Ijaws? by Captain8(m): 5:13pm On Apr 27, 2023
Ebi2233:
We in Kolokuma Clan understand Nembe to a very great level.
yes,,,, that's what I am telling that bingo

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