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Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by barcaboi(m): 1:29pm On Oct 08, 2021
dmostcheerful:

APC wide investigation indeed.
Even with the whole evidence tendered against your drug Barron brother thiefnub, with the video of a clear case of money launder during past election wetin you do?
Is Mr Peter Obi the only implicated Nigerian politician a clear case of witch hunt, Mr worldwide investigator, did you even take your time to know what this particular case is all about?

My thief is a better thief is what got us here; make una kontinu nah
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by alpontif(m): 1:49pm On Oct 08, 2021
KingOfAmebo:


"Firstly, you got it all wrong when your think Journalists are after his perceived "astonishing reputation".

Secondly, Premium Times did not create or invent the Pandora Papers as you have insinuated, The investigation is part of the global International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ)-led Pandora Papers project.

The project saw 600 journalists from 150 news organisations around the world poring through a trove of 11.9 million confidential files, contextualising information, tracking down sources and analysing public records and other documents.

The leaked files were retrieved from some offshore services firms around the world that set up shell companies and other offshore entities for clients, many of them influential politicians, businesspersons and criminals, seeking to conceal their financial dealings.

The two-year collaboration has so far revealed the financial secrets of not less than 35 current and former world leaders, more than 330 public officials in more than 91 countries and territories. So, this is not a case of someone witch-hunting Peter Him-Tu-Lie Obi China.

Do you even realize the effects of Peter Obi's actions, He didn't deny having a secret account or businesses abroad wether joint or solely, he only denied not knowing it's against the law and said he wouldn't declare what he owns by his family.

Now here's the question, If this Obi of a man becomes your President he would mortgage the whole of Nigeria and the destiny of your children into one of his secret accounts and businesses abroad and run it as a family business. Is that what you want? Have I spoken some senses into your empty skull". - Village People spokesperson.



Ti a ba sọ wípé a ó ṣe oogun ìkà mo, alábùkú bíi ti ẹ lọ má a jẹ ki èèyàn padà ṣe....

Meaning, if I say I won't do bad juju anymore, it is idiots like you that will of your own volition ask me to bring it out and test it on you.

I did not abuse anybody, nor did I use any ad hominem in my writeup, what evil spirit will hate you to the point of provoking you to write something in the form of empty skull to me?

Your pápá the unfortunate fool that birthed an awful fool like you dare not say this to my face.... Na your mama I pity sha... God bless her, she really dey try for you.. If not, you would have become a victim of your own stupidity years ago.... For her sake, I no go curse your pápá further.

To the point in question, you are only regurgitating the presser the media is releasing regarding the Panama papers.... I would have said you lack the capacity to form original thoughts, but that will be similar to marginalising a naturally handicapped person... It is not your fault you no get sense... Na your family gene fault... Sorry my dear.

For the sake of sane people that are reading this, I apologise for my language.. It is not the best and I could have done better, but sometimes you have to show pigs that you are willing to roll in the mud with them if need be. My further writings will be for the sake of your information.. Not because of the donkey I am replying.

It is NOT a crime to own shell Companies. If it were a crime, jurisdictions around the world will not have allowed it.

In fact, in international business and Corporate business operations, owing shell companies is a way to properly structure your business governance processes and procedures to minimise Tax exposure, maximise Asset protection, and carry out Estate planning properly.

As with everything that is intended for good, it can also be used for criminal purposes. Criminals like Abacha used it to launder money. Pablo escobar used it to move funds to Swiss banks, etc etc.

But the good outweighs the bad, as far as International business is concerned. If you notice, you will see that Apple Inc, and American company, is actually officially Headquartered in Ireland...... Principally to avoid paying US taxes on income. All the Top 1000 fortune listed companies all have several levels of shell structures in place. Every popular company you know, including MTN, Shell, Globalcom etc all have shell companies.... Principally for the reasons I stated above.

If you are an international business man, say you are a Cocoa exporter, you can incorporate shell companies to minimise taxes, to warehouse funds, to keep your funds offshore etc... All of this is not illegal.

So, the fact that you have secret companies, that you use to manage your affairs to your legal advantage, does not make you a Criminal.... Every single great person/entity you know alive has shell companies.... Including the Catholic Church, the Sauds, etc...

Having shell companies for corporate structuring is the go to Tax planning and management for well exposed technocratic Business men.

The Jurisdictions that make this easy to do are not Fools, the Irish are not, the British Financial system is not managed by hysterical fools that do not know how to form practical policies that promote their Country...

If Nigerian governments were savvy, they will enact policies that will turn Nigeria into a Tax haven, have secrecy laws for Incorporation and banking, have an independent Court system that follows the rule of law, then sit back and watch the billions pour in....

But no, our government is not smart, we prefer to àpe the west, doing things that have no benefits for us while the West (Switzerland, London, New York, Singapore) reap all the benefits.

To really learn more about this, seek for informed from Corporate lawyers, investment advisors, Tax planners and People who understand corporate finance.

Peter Obi, i repeat, does not need to deny anything, because having shell companies is not a crime by itself. He has broken no single law.

Sane people will expect the Government and its agents to question Obi on this instead of prematurely destroying his image for the sake of politics....
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by Ausval: 2:05pm On Oct 08, 2021
Bullshit ..are you sure you know Peter Obi ,are you sure you knew how he behaved as a governor in anambra state.. but I guessed your bloody skull is filled with tribal bullshit and that's why you will continue being a low life as you will always be deceived by these failed politicians that are completely wrapped in failure and your dilapidated brains, devoid of ventricles is too shallow to see it
KingOfAmebo:


"Do you even realize the effects of Peter Obi's actions, He didn't deny having a secret account or businesses abroad wether joint or solely, he only denied not knowing it's against the law and said he wouldn't declare what he owns by his family.

Now here's the question, If this Obi of a man becomes your President he would mortgage the whole of Nigeria and the destiny of your children into one of his secret accounts and businesses abroad and run it as a family business. Is that what you want? Have I spoken some senses into your empty skull". - Village People spokesperson.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by dmostcheerful(f): 2:06pm On Oct 08, 2021
barcaboi:

My thief is a better thief is what got us here; make una kontinu nah
Brother the APC we know will drop every evidence if there is any.
This particular case is a witch hunt, oga peter Obi said its a co-owned company.
The problem here is that he didn't steal oo, did you take your time to even read about this issue, the issue here is that he didn't declear the business as his before running a public office, he still insisted he didn't cause its a co-owned business.
So what exactly did he steal?
They have been looking for what to nail him with, Mr Peter Obi we the Anambrarians know isn't a thief, all through his stay as the governor of Anambra state he didnt owe civil servants, our schools in Anambra got world class lift, he created new roads in our rural area, through out his stay as a governor no governor of Anambra state saved the much he said, our reserve got huge, the orient petroleum in Anambra state he initiated it, a whole lot of things I would go on and on to say here.
He is a very humble man, when he was governor one time when victor Umeh's mother dies he came to my husband's village in Aguluzoigbo and stayed 3days with just 2 escort and a P.A I am a withness.
He helped arrange chair for the burial, he will seat with everyone you won't even know he is the governor.
Leave matter for Mathias, he was a very successful business man before being the governor I guess thats why he stole little or nothing from Anambra people.
Oga just be coming out.
APC have been looking for what to nail him with, oga didn't steal, did he?
They said he didn't declear his assets?
E better pass bullion van thief.
All of you should get out abeg

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Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by barcaboi(m): 2:08pm On Oct 08, 2021
dmostcheerful:

Brother the APC we know will drop every evidence if there is any.
This particular case is a witch hunt, oga peter Obi said its a co-owned company.
The problem here is that he didn't steal oo, did you take your time to even read about this issue, the issue here is that he didn't declear the business as his before running a public office, he still insisted he didn't cause its a co-owned business.
So what exactly did he steal?
They have been looking for what to nail him with, Mr Peter Obi we the Anambrarians know isn't a thief, all through his stay as the governor of Anambra state he didnt owe civil servants, our schools in Anambra got world class lift, he created new roads in our rural area, through out his stay as a governor no governor of Anambra state saved the much he said, our reserve got huge, the orient petroleum in Anambra state he initiated it, a whole lot of things I would go on and on to say here.
He is a very humble man, when he was governor one time when victor Umeh's mother dies he came to my husband's village in Aguluzoigbo and stayed 3days with just 2 escort and a P.A I am a withness.
He helped arrange chair for the burial, he will seat with everyone you won't even know he is the governor.
Leave matter for Mathias, he was a very successful business man before being the governor I guess thats why he stole little or nothing from Anambra people.
Oga just be coming out.
APC have been looking for what to nail him with, oga didn't steal, did he?
They said he didn't declear his assets?
E better pass bullion van thief.
All of you should get out abeg

Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by KingOfAmebo(m): 2:41pm On Oct 08, 2021
alpontif:


Ti a ba sọ wípé a ó ṣe oogun ìkà mo, alábùkú bíi ti ẹ lọ má a jẹ ki èèyàn padà ṣe....

Meaning, if I say I won't do bad juju anymore, it is idiots like you that will of your own volition ask me to bring it out and test it on you.

I did not abuse anybody, nor did I use any ad hominem in my writeup, what evil spirit will hate you to the point of provoking you to write something in the form of empty skull to me?

Your pápá the unfortunate fool that birthed an awful fool like you dare not say this to my face.... Na your mama I pity sha... God bless her, she really dey try for you.. If not, you would have become a victim of your own stupidity years ago.... For her sake, I no go curse your pápá further.

To the point in question, you are only regurgitating the presser the media is releasing regarding the Panama papers.... I would have said you lack the capacity to form original thoughts, but that will be similar to marginalising a naturally handicapped person... It is not your fault you no get sense... Na your family gene fault... Sorry my dear.

For the sake of sane people that are reading this, I apologise for my language.. It is not the best and I could have done better, but sometimes you have to show pigs that you are willing to roll in the mud with them if need be. My further writings will be for the sake of your information.. Not because of the donkey I am replying.

It is NOT a crime to own shell Companies. If it were a crime, jurisdictions around the world will not have allowed it.

In fact, in international business and Corporate business operations, owing shell companies is a way to properly structure your business governance processes and procedures to minimise Tax exposure, maximise Asset protection, and carry out Estate planning properly.

As with everything that is intended for good, it can also be used for criminal purposes. Criminals like Abacha used it to launder money. Pablo escobar used it to move funds to Swiss banks, etc etc.

But the good outweighs the bad, as far as International business is concerned. If you notice, you will see that Apple Inc, and American company, is actually officially Headquartered in Ireland...... Principally to avoid paying US taxes on income. All the Top 1000 fortune listed companies all have several levels of shell structures in place. Every popular company you know, including MTN, Shell, Globalcom etc all have shell companies.... Principally for the reasons I stated above.

If you are an international business man, say you are a Cocoa exporter, you can incorporate shell companies to minimise taxes, to warehouse funds, to keep your funds offshore etc... All of this is not illegal.

So, the fact that you have secret companies, that you use to manage your affairs to your legal advantage, does not make you a Criminal.... Every single great person/entity you know alive has shell companies.... Including the Catholic Church, the Sauds, etc...

Having shell companies for corporate structuring is the go to Tax planning and management for well exposed technocratic Business men.

The Jurisdictions that make this easy to do are not Fools, the Irish are not, the British Financial system is not managed by hysterical fools that do not know how to form practical policies that promote their Country...

If Nigerian governments were savvy, they will enact policies that will turn Nigeria into a Tax haven, have secrecy laws for Incorporation and banking, have an independent Court system that follows the rule of law, then sit back and watch the billions pour in....

But no, our government is not smart, we prefer to àpe the west, doing things that have no benefits for us while the West (Switzerland, London, New York, Singapore) reap all the benefits.

To really learn more about this, seek for informed from Corporate lawyers, investment advisors, Tax planners and People who understand corporate finance.

Peter Obi, i repeat, does not need to deny anything, because having shell companies is not a crime by itself. He has broken no single law.

Sane people will expect the Government and its agents to question Obi on this instead of prematurely destroying his image for the sake of politics....


"People like you are the reason politcians in Nigeria steal your destiny and that of your children because you always blindly defend them because he is your tribesman, thieves from other region are to be stoned while the thieves from your tribe should be spared...abi?

A Politician and a two term Governor (Not a businessman) owns a Shell company abroad in secrecy while serving sorry looting Anambra dry and hiding his loot in these secret accounts abroad and it's cool to daft people like you.

So, if calling you an empty skull could make you vent your anger in such a manner I wonder what you would do if I say you are irredeemably stupid and your senselessness is absolutely legendary". - Village People spokesperson.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by Mftivi: 2:52pm On Oct 08, 2021
GetMeRight:


Who are these useless people for God's sake? Tax avoidance is a very big crime everywhere.
lol heavy olodo! The screenshot you posted says tax evasion not tax avoidance! They are not the same thing.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by OmoEpe(m): 2:53pm On Oct 08, 2021
dmostcheerful:

Even with the video evidence of your Tinubu moving billions with a bullion van, a clear case of money launder what and what did you do?
Ewu Awusa, zuzuru gaba.
The way you snapped your brain above now and its empty, it helped convince me an in intelligent fellow quoted me.
APC that you and I know will drop every gbas gbos they have against this guy, all they are giving us is epistle to epistle with no clear evidence.
A clear case of witch hunt, oga carry your gworo chewing teeth and face front.

Same defence for the empty headedness of IPOB miscreants

Intellectual matters are beyond your types.

Ewu Gambia
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by nwakibie3(m): 3:21pm On Oct 08, 2021
Trojan8:


Even after correcting the mumu, he was still claiming right


I believe he knows the truth.

He is just hating on Mr. Peter Obi.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by alpontif(m): 3:34pm On Oct 08, 2021
KingOfAmebo:


"People like you are the reason politcians in Nigeria steal your destiny and that of your children because you always blindly defend them because he is your tribesman, thieves from other region are to be stoned while the thieves from your tribe should be spared...abi?

A Politician and a two term Governor (Not a businessman) owns a Shell company abroad in secrecy while serving sorry looting Anambra dry and hiding his loot in these secret accounts abroad and it's cool to daft people like you.

So, if calling you an empty skull could make you vent your anger in such a manner I wonder what you would do if I say you are irredeemably stupid and your senselessness is absolutely legendary". - Village People spokesperson.

I see you are a confirmed Olórí burúkú... You are not only deficient in knowledge of what you should know, you are also a pawn in the hands of players that know the actual state of the matter... I cannot spare my time on you...

Oponu afofungbemu...

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Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by JOemmy(m): 3:39pm On Oct 08, 2021
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The nigerian state is founded on fraud what do you expect from the leaders of such a country?

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Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by oyatz(m): 4:07pm On Oct 08, 2021
humility33:


On what ground??.

U think if he really stole frm Anambra the efcc won't have been on his trail by now ?

I live in lagos there is hardly a thing u will tell me about Tinubu and his wife i dont know

How they took people's lands and covert it to theirs in alausa

How he empowered the agberos and touts to operate with impunity


He fail set up a master plan for lagos island at a time when El Rufai was doing same for abuja as fct minister. While he was a governor Donald Duke of cross river was deemed the best performing governor unlike the excellent works fashola did during his reign

The many properties he left undisclosed that jonathan had to trade with his ambition in 2011 give me south west i will clear u off CCT charges and Jonathan did just that

You really need to know that Tinubu is damn corrupt than those men u mentioned even Osibanjo is guilty of diverting NEMA funds

So tell me who is clean amongst them

All these epistles for just a simple question?


Is Peter Obi more corrupt than Atiku?


You declared that Peter Obi is less corrupt than Tinubu (even when the topic has nothing to do with Tinubu) and have heard and accepted but is he more corrupt than Atiku?
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by saintade01(m): 4:27pm On Oct 08, 2021
AchalugoNwa:
Tinubu is a bastard drug dealing vagabond

Osibanjo is a vagabond bastard bribe eating scumbag fake pasta


And this is you undecided angry

Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by JaroMan: 4:33pm On Oct 08, 2021
RuudVanNistroy:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/488797-pandora-papers-peter-obi-reacts-tries-to-mislead-nigerians.html
grin grin grin those of us that know little about Peter Obi will assure you, Premium Times that you're least on the log of things bothering him. The reason is: you raised issues without point of order.
All the clauses you quoted were punctured by you.
Example, how can you say he saddled his company 18 months after becoming a governor and at the same time affirming he sent a letter to before but the change was not effected after 18 months? The letter is the main thing. Whether he back dated or not but since the UK authorities agreed they received the letter earlier, it's not his fault.
Operating a foreign account: Peter wasn't sworn in like any other governor. He was sworn in by order of mandamus.
For 2 years + he was in court.
Was he aware he will win in court? It's neither here nor there.
He closed these accounts as soon as he became governor. You even quoted these records. So how will you give us answer to these research and go about asking Peter the answer.
That's why he said "I didn't break any law". Because he's replying you.
Aside this:
You're becoming venomous on this issue as if you're the Pandora paper. The tone you use in addressing this issue is unprofessional to say the least.

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Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by gawu1: 5:50pm On Oct 08, 2021
Ausval:
Make una forget talk
We know all of this is to dent his presidential ambition

But wait
Did he steal any of those money
Did he established those companies during when he was a governor

Pandoma abi Pandora nor fit do investigations to help us expose the billions of dollars our politicians dey loot everyday ,na legitimate businesses dem dey tell us

We need a president that has vast knowledge in investment and economic management and Mr Peter Obi fit into those shoes remarkably

So Make una go sit-down
''Did he established those companies during when he was a governor?''
Yes, the Pandora paper has answered this your question. Go back and read the reports again freeing your mind from being a supporter of a 'corrupt thief'

''We need a president that has vast knowledge in investment and economic management and Mr Peter Obi fit into those shoes remarkably''
Some one who outrightly declared that investments in infrastructures development is a waste of resources and would not have any impact on the country development can not be the person we need as president.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 08, 2021
Millimann:
Premium Times is capitalizing on this Pandora report to shine.

I would advise any politician going for a higher position to employ a consultant that will advise him on these intricate matters.

Premium Times is the only Nigerian newspaper that has direct access to Pandora report!
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by domchike(m): 6:13pm On Oct 08, 2021
This is utterly rubbish
Mr P Obi is a businessman so you expect to leave his business unattended
Infact this report did well to elavate such a man that after 8 years as a governor no sham was recorded
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by KingOfAmebo(m): 6:56pm On Oct 08, 2021
alpontif:


I see you are a confirmed Olórí burúkú... You are not only deficient in knowledge of what you should know, you are also a pawn in the hands of players that know the actual state of the matter... I cannot spare my time on you...

Oponu afofungbemu...

"The joke is on you political slave, an irredeemable mugu in the hands of the oppressors and a tool for continueus looting, las las you go get sense". - Village People spokesperson.
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by Ericnrm(m): 4:24am On Oct 09, 2021
GetMeRight:


Who are these useless people for God's sake? Tax avoidance is a very big crime everywhere.


Useless like your dad right?

Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by GetMeRight: 8:11am On Oct 09, 2021
Ericnrm:


Useless like your dad right?

Let's see how it goes for you today
Re: Premium Times Responds To Peter Obi On Pandora Papers by Gobdddd(m): 5:43am On Oct 11, 2021
Hahahaha.
I know

oyatz:


Pandora papers is an international organization.

The publications has nothing to do with EFCC.

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