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Cambridge University Officially Returns Looted Benin Bronze Artefact To Nigeria / Germany Set To Return Taken Artefact To Benin / Jesus College Bronze Cockerel To Be Repatriated To Benin City Nigeria (2) (3) (4)

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 11:55am On Oct 28, 2021
saddler:


Mumu!

How do those rubbish you put up there serve as evidence that igbos influenced Edos?

One of the greatest igboman ever known Nnamdi Azikwe wrote his biography and traced his ancestry to the benin kingdom.

If not for the white men that came to teach igbos how to organize and govern themselves, you guys weren't different from gorillas and chimpanzees roaming the bush.

A tribe without organization isnt capable of influencing another tribe.

Should i give you an example of Benin influence on igbos?
Do you know Obi of Onitsha?

His ancestors are from the Great Benin Kingdom . His royal apparel and his staff are from Benin kingdom.

Pls do not bring Igboid/Edoid sub groups in Delta state into this.

Those tribes have rejected your land grabbing antics openly on several occasions.
They are not igbo. Your five landlocked states is what you should brag with.

Edo state as a whole is about 3 of those your southeastern states combined.




Zik was playing politics with you Edoids.
It's impossible for a Bini person to be named Eze Chima in 1770s, use your brain.
Moreover even in Edo state, we still have Igboid speakers till today.
The Obi of Onitsha who is the custodian of Onitsha culture had since come out to proclaim that Onitsha were ancient Igbos who were on reverse migration from Ife, had a brief stop at Bini before returning to Igboland.
Bini is too small to influence Ndiigbo.
There is nothing sophisticated about a bunch of people bowing down to a fat Oba who they are probably more intelligent than.
Ndiigbo are too wise for such tomfoolery. We evolved s much more superior Democracy where everyone opinion matters and is weighed upon in community square before a decision that affects everyone was taken.

If you think you are superior because your ancestors allowed a fat man dictate for them, then the joke is on you.
Bini never evolved a superior civilization than Ndiigbo. Igbo-ukwu arts are much more superior to whatever Bini had to offer.
Awka blacksmiths were much more advanced than Binis ever had. Bini land hard no pre colonial cloth making centres, Ndiigbo had many with Akwete being the most famous.
When faced with a superior civilization like the British, the Igbos put up much more robust and sophisticated military resistance as shown in Anglo-Aro war, than the weak Binis who lived on hype but was ransacked by the British in a matter of 48hrs.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Mftivi: 11:55am On Oct 28, 2021
Qualer:



Have you seen actual documented pictures of these pieces when they were taken and the pitiable state they were in?
Some of them were covered in thick coats of dust and blood from human, animal and chicken sacrifices/offerings - and I'm not talking just about the ancient Bini kingdom. Only a few of the decorative/ornamental pieces were relatively clean and well kept.

Judging from the way they were used back in the day, most of them only lasted because they were made from iron and bronze cast and even at that, some didn't still survive in the hands of the locals.
Even the famous ivory face/mask pendant that was used as the FESTAC '77 icon was mostly in tatters and another fake copy had to be made.
That original is in the Met Museum, New York and it has not deteriorated further since it has been there because it is well taken care of.

Dude, I am an artist and work in the art sector, I am not just talking out of turn!
you are lost man, see if it's gonna be enough you can as well pack their shit and eat.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Qualer: 12:04pm On Oct 28, 2021
Mftivi:
you are lost man, see if it's gonna be enough you can as well pack their shit and eat.

You're actually the ignorant idiat in this space,
How many history/art museums of average global standard(with the required tools, trained staff and facilities) does your country have?
Instead of facing your shitty reality you are here being stupidly obtuse in public!!

See you sounding like you are full of pride and patriotism, but if dem give you ordinary Gabon visa now you'll start celebrating and throwing parties!!!
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Ayt27(m): 12:04pm On Oct 28, 2021
sinkhole:
and the punctuation is purely Yoruba too grin and it means, exactly in Yoruba ROOSTER cool not hen or chicken but rooster (a male chicken), just as the returned sculpture shows wink

You are the better man, I don't think I would have handled this as well as you have.

Akuko=Rooster

Ọkhọkhọ=Sculptor=Rooster

Okuko= Chicken/Story

You con dey say you see similarity btw sculptor rooster with chicken/story when there's a clearly visible option.

You handled that well bro, and maybe na because say na 4:58am you comment, make e no be like say na you dey wake with fight.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Mftivi: 12:14pm On Oct 28, 2021
Qualer:


You're actually the ignorant idiat in this space,
How many history/art museums of average global standard(with the required tools, trained staff and facilities) does your country have?
Instead of facing your shitty reality you are here being stupidly obtuse in public!!

See you sounding like you are full of pride and patriotism, but if dem give you ordinary Gabon visa now you'll start celebrating and throwing parties!!!
oga getat, mofoking house niggga! Go eat some white pooo
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by saddler: 12:50pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Zik was playing politics with you Edoids.
It's impossible for a Bini person to be named Eze Chima in 1770s, use your brain.
Moreover even in Edo state, we still have Igboid speakers till today.
The Obi of Onitsha who is the custodian of Onitsha culture had since come out to proclaim that Onitsha were ancient Igbos who were on reverse migration from Ife, had a brief stop at Bini before returning to Igboland.
Bini is too small to influence Ndiigbo.
There is nothing sophisticated about a bunch of people bowing down to a fat Oba who they are probably more intelligent than.
Ndiigbo are too wise for such tomfoolery. We evolved s much more superior Democracy where everyone opinion matters and is weighed upon in community square before a decision that affects everyone was taken.

If you think you are superior because your ancestors allowed a fat man dictate for them, then the joke is on you.
Bini never evolved a superior civilization than Ndiigbo. Igbo-ukwu arts are much more superior to whatever Bini had to offer.
Awka blacksmiths were much more advanced than Binis ever had. Bini land hard no pre colonial cloth making centres, Ndiigbo had many with Akwete being the most famous.
When faced with a superior civilization like the British, the Igbos put up much more robust and sophisticated military resistance as shown in Anglo-Aro war, than the weak Binis who lived on hype but was ransacked by the British in a matter of 48hrs.

All these things you put up there coming from your potopoto brain.

Igbos had no civilization.

You were all in the bush when the whiteman came .
No form of intelligence, no organization. Just look back at history. Wherever you find greatness, you find organized leadership.

From Ancient Egypt to Ghana, India, Chinese, Germany, British, Portuguese, Spanish, Romans etc

They all had leaders that dictate how the people live their lives.

Igbos didn't have because you were unintelligent and primitive.

It was a yoruba man Ajayi Crowther that translated the English bible to Igbo so your ancestors can have some form of intelligence.

When the white came, they met a civilized Benin empire that was compared to what is obtainable in the Western world as at that time.
If not for colonialism, you will be roaming in the bush by now.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 1:12pm On Oct 28, 2021
saddler:


All these things you put up there coming from your potopoto brain.

Igbos had no civilization.

You were all in the bush when the whiteman came .
No form of intelligence, no organization. Just look back at history. Wherever you find greatness, you find organized leadership.

From Ancient Egypt to Ghana, India, Chinese, Germany, British, Portuguese, Spanish, Romans etc

They all had leaders that dictate how the people live their lives.

Igbos didn't have because you were unintelligent and primitive.

It was a yoruba man Ajayi Crowther that translated the English bible to Igbo so your ancestors can have some form of intelligence.

When the white came, they met a civilized Benin empire that was compared to what is obtainable in the Western world as at that time.
If not for colonialism, you will be roaming in the bush by now.


You are a primitive Bini man.
Lol!
Igbos had organized democracy, we were never without leaders. Power was decentralized between title holders, chief priests and priestesses of important deities,women leaders, Leaders of different age groups, market leaders and then the general assembly of the people.
We were that organized and it was much better than a fat and probably intellectually challenged Oba dictating for everyone else.

The evidence of superiority of a people organization lies in their productivity.
Igbo arts (Igbo ukwu) were 1 million times better than Edo arts. Igbo blacksmiths (The Awka blacksmiths) where 1 trillion times better than Bini ones. In other words, we were and remain technologically more advanced than Binis.
What's more, Igbos evolved a traditional cloth weaving centres with Akwete in Abia State as the most famous of them all, Bini had not a single one. I bet you were all wearing plant leaves before encounter with the Portuguese who you shamelessly collected weapons from, with which you used to terrorize neighbouring groups and sold to them to the Portuguese in exchange for coins and other materials which you melted to produce your bronze works, as Bini had no traditional iron ore minning sites, like we had in Lejja in Igboland.

Igbos adapted and modified a writing style called Nsibidi before the whites came, your backward Bini had non.

Ajayi crowther never wrote any Igbo Bible, how can he do so when he couldn't speak Igbo?
Igbo missionaries of Sierra Leone origin wrote the first Igbo Bible, Ajayi crowther was the head of the church delegation to Nigeria so naturally supervised the work. Quit being retarded.
Google about Simon Jonas! He was an Igbo slave of Sierra Leone origin who did most of the work in Igbo Bible production.

Bini empire conquered nada! How can you claim to conquer when even in your Edo State, the superiority of Igbo civilization reigns supreme as groups like Igbanke, Owariuzo, etc, all speak an Igboid language?
Look around you how many so called Bini decendants who dumped Bini language for a superior Igbo language and culture.

Is there any better prove of cultural superiority than language imposition? I mean the sign of British dominance is seen in English language universality in today World, the Portuguese dominance of the word can be seen in Brazil, Angola and Mozambique.
Spanish dominance can be seen in South America and Equitorial Guinea.

Igbo superiority can be seen right in Edo state!
You were bunch of Savages who couldn't evolve civilization until the Portuguese gave you weapons with which you shamelessly used to terrorize your fellow black neighbors.

When the British came for you, you fell in a matter of days and the stench of your citiy where you used fellow blacks for human sacrifice was exposed.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by samwillyco1(m): 1:16pm On Oct 28, 2021
This people should be arrested looting, stealing and deception of NIGERIAN, if you check well they returned the fake one and not the original one
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 1:41pm On Oct 28, 2021
masseratti:
please go back to school and know that it's the same thing in igala, ebira, Yoruba, Edo and igbo....

Corn was brought by the Europeans.. Its not indigenous to Africa.

Ugbo, Igbo means forest not farm even in igbo... Stop saying things you don't know online.

Corn was brought by europeans are you guys crazy....how and when

Farm/Forest whatever


Ozuo
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 1:44pm On Oct 28, 2021
saddler:


All these things you put up there coming from your potopoto brain.

Igbos had no civilization.

You were all in the bush when the whiteman came .
No form of intelligence, no organization. Just look back at history. Wherever you find greatness, you find organized leadership.

From Ancient Egypt to Ghana, India, Chinese, Germany, British, Portuguese, Spanish, Romans etc

They all had leaders that dictate how the people live their lives.

Igbos didn't have because you were unintelligent and primitive.

It was a yoruba man Ajayi Crowther that translated the English bible to Igbo so your ancestors can have some form of intelligence.

When the white came, they met a civilized Benin empire that was compared to what is obtainable in the Western world as at that time.
If not for colonialism, you will be roaming in the bush by now.



Your stupidity is amazing ...igbo had civilisatiins far far ..that we even developed democrazy and city state ruling


We conquered lands...half of abia state were conquered territories by igbo with their allies


Benin with their funny civilisation.. how many territories do they have
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 1:50pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Zik was playing politics with you Edoids.
It's impossible for a Bini person to be named Eze Chima in 1770s, use your brain.
Moreover even in Edo state, we still have Igboid speakers till today.
The Obi of Onitsha who is the custodian of Onitsha culture had since come out to proclaim that Onitsha were ancient Igbos who were on reverse migration from Ife, had a brief stop at Bini before returning to Igboland.
Bini is too small to influence Ndiigbo.
There is nothing sophisticated about a bunch of people bowing down to a fat Oba who they are probably more intelligent than.
Ndiigbo are too wise for such tomfoolery. We evolved s much more superior Democracy where everyone opinion matters and is weighed upon in community square before a decision that affects everyone was taken.

If you think you are superior because your ancestors allowed a fat man dictate for them, then the joke is on you.
Bini never evolved a superior civilization than Ndiigbo. Igbo-ukwu arts are much more superior to whatever Bini had to offer.
Awka blacksmiths were much more advanced than Binis ever had. Bini land hard no pre colonial cloth making centres, Ndiigbo had many with Akwete being the most famous.
When faced with a superior civilization like the British, the Igbos put up much more robust and sophisticated military resistance as shown in Anglo-Aro war, than the weak Binis who lived on hype but was ransacked by the British in a matter of 48hrs.

You can imagine tiny benin wey never influence Gelegele ....wey ijaw hold


Abi Eze Chima na benin name ....very confused people


They were cowards building moats around and having their rulers exiled...igbo fought british for 40 years none of their kings were exiled no land lost

But benin lost land to urhobo, igbo (igbanke) ijaw (gelegele)


Even now that herdsmen are taking over their lands...you still dont see these benin fight back...na only igbo dey hold forth for the whole Southern Nigeria



I am proud to be igbo ..we get robust history

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by saddler: 1:55pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


You are a primitive Bini man.
Lol!
Igbos had organized democracy, we were never without leaders. Power was decentralized between title holders, chief priests and priestesses of important deities,women leaders, Leaders of different age groups, market leaders and then the general assembly of the people.
We were that organized and it was much better than a fat and probably intellectually challenged Oba dictating for everyone else.

The evidence of superiority of a people organization lies in their productivity.
Igbo arts (Igbo ukwu) were 1 million times better than Edo arts. Igbo blacksmiths (The Awka blacksmiths) where 1 trillion times better than Bini ones. In other words, we were and remain technologically more advanced than Binis.
What's more, Igbos evolved a traditional cloth weaving centres with Akwete in Abia State as the most famous of them all, Bini had not a single one. I bet you were all wearing plant leaves before encounter with the Portuguese who you shamelessly collected weapons from, with which you used to terrorize neighbouring groups and sold to them to the Portuguese in exchange for coins and other materials which you melted to produce your bronze works, as Bini had no traditional iron ore minning sites, like we had in Lejja in Igboland.

Igbos adapted and modified a writing style called Nsibidi before the whites came, your backward Bini had non.

Ajayi crowther never wrote any Igbo Bible, how can he do so when he couldn't speak Igbo?
Igbo missionaries of Sierra Leone origin wrote the first Igbo Bible, Ajayi crowther was the head of the church delegation to Nigeria so naturally supervised the work. Quit being retarded.
Google about Simon Jonas! He was an Igbo slave of Sierra Leone origin who did most of the work in Igbo Bible production.

Bini empire conquered nada! How can you claim to conquer when even in your Edo State, the superiority of Igbo civilization reigns supreme as groups like Igbanke, Owariuzo, etc, all speak an Igboid language?
Look around you how many so called Bini decendants who dumped Bini language for a superior Igbo language and culture.

Is there any better prove of cultural superiority than language imposition? I mean the sign of British dominance is seen in English language universality in today World, the Portuguese dominance of the word can be seen in Brazil, Angola and Mozambique.
Spanish dominance can be seen in South America and Equitorial Guinea.

Igbo superiority can be seen right in Edo state!
You were bunch of Savages who couldn't evolve civilization until the Portuguese gave you weapons with which you shamelessly used to terrorize your fellow black neighbors.

When the British came for you, you fell in a matter of days and the stench of your citiy where you used fellow blacks for human sacrifice was exposed.

It seems only your small igboid brain is able to know and remember this civilization of the igbos!

Ask yourself why the might, ingenuity, intelligence of the great Benin emoure keeps making the news more than a hundred years after the british colonialists formed Nigeria.

Why is there no news of your igboness coming from around the world like the Benin Kingdom ?

You guys were not significant!

Look at the Benin bronzes all over the world! Everyone admits they came from a place of great civilization.


Igbos didn't have anything worthwhile so nobody cares of whatever you did or know.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 2:26pm On Oct 28, 2021
saddler:


It seems only your small igboid brain is able to know and remember this civilization of the igbos!

Ask yourself why the might, ingenuity, intelligence of the great Benin emoure keeps making the news more than a hundred years after the british colonialists formed Nigeria.

Why is there no news of your igboness coming from around the world like the Benin Kingdom ?

You guys were not significant!

Look at the Benin bronzes all over the world! Everyone admits they came from a place of great civilization.


Igbos didn't have anything worthwhile so nobody cares of whatever you did or know.


Inferior bronze works that were looted because your weak empire was ransacked in matter of 48hours.
Is that something to be proud of?
There are Igbo artifacts in foreign museums all over the world, the difference being that many of them were sold to colonial buyers by families who own them and not looted. So no talk of returning them.

Igbo ukwu artifacts are in New York museum too, and they are recognized by all academia as the most sophisticated artifact in the entire NIGERIA!

Bini and intelligence in same sentence is a great mismatch. I mean even right in Edo state, Igbo culture and civilization is so superior that we have Igbo speaking clans with Igbo names in your midst. Can you beat that?

You are nothing but an insignificant minority group who had your hay days when you got superior firearms from Portuguese to procure slaves for them from inland.
As soon as the firearms proliferated, the surrounding tribes pushed you shameless savages back, and ever since then, you are still living in nostalgia of your looting, invasion and pillaging days of neighboring groups for filthy Portuguese bronze coins that you melted for your inferior arts.
The joke is on you.

Below is an example of an Igbo artifact in a museum in Israel.
It use to be in New York before Israel bought it.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ThickSharon123(f): 2:27pm On Oct 28, 2021
Nebes:
Did I read okuko?

That's what was in my mind, dear. But please, let's leave it like that.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by NemoDatQuod(m): 2:28pm On Oct 28, 2021
First off, maximum respect to the people of the great Benin Empire for having the skill, discipline and ingenuity to produce this incredible and delicately designed work of art nearly two hundred years ago. But what happened to that skillset from long ago? Is there a way to resuscitate it so we can once more enjoy such incredible works including the attendant revenue?

Most importantly, methinks this is not the time to return anything of serious value to any part of Nigeria. As the Economist magazine rightly put it, Nigeria is not just a crime scene, it is an unfolding crime scene. Five years from now (if that long) we shall look for these artefacts and they will be nowhere to be found. Is it not better to leave these beautiful works of art in the care and safe keeping of societies where human beings live, instead of returning them to an unfolding crime scene bedevilled by unabated criminality and corruption? We shall live to rue the day we accepted these art works back into Nigeria. Let the West publicly acknowledge Nigeria's ownership of these artworks. Then let them keep them and continue to display them safely in their museums and schools. Present day Nigeria is not worthy of such beauty of ingenuity.


EdoDefence:
Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact, The Ọkhọkhọ

Jesus College, Cambridge has returned a looted artefact, The Ọkhọkhọ to the palace of the Oba of Benin, where it was stolen in 1897 and been returned to the Palace of the Ọba of Benin.

Credit: Twitter | shailafennel, JesusCollegeCam


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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 2:35pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Inferior bronze works that were looted because your weak empire was ransacked in matter of 48hours.
Is that something to be proud of?
There are Igbo artifacts in foreign museums all over the world, the difference being that many of them were sold to colonial buyers by families who own them and not looted. So no talk of returning them.

Igbo ukwu artifacts are in New York museum too, and they are recognized by all academia as the most sophisticated artifact in the entire NIGERIA!

Bini and intelligence in same sentence is a great mismatch. I mean even right in Edo state, Igbo culture and civilization is so superior that we have Igbo speaking clans with Igbo names in your midst. Can you beat that?

You are nothing but an insignificant minority group who had your hay days when you got superior firearms from Portuguese to procure slaves for them from inland.
As soon as the firearms proliferated, the surrounding tribes pushed you shameless savages back, and ever since then, you are still living in nostalgia of your looting, invasion and pillaging days of neighboring groups for filthy Portuguese bronze coins that you use for your inferior arts.
The joke is on you.

Below is an example of an Igbo artifact in a museum in Israel.
It use to be in New York before Israel bought it.

They built a moat to protect themselves
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by saddler: 2:42pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Inferior bronze works that were looted because your weak empire was ransacked in matter of 48hours.
Is that something to be proud of?
There are Igbo artifacts in foreign museums all over the world, the difference being that many of them were sold to colonial buyers by families who own them and not looted. So no talk of returning them.

Igbo ukwu artifacts are in New York museum too, and they are recognized by all academia as the most sophisticated artifact in the entire NIGERIA!

Bini and intelligence in same sentence is a great mismatch. I mean even right in Edo state, Igbo culture and civilization is so superior that we have Igbo speaking clans with Igbo names in your midst. Can you beat that?

You are nothing but an insignificant minority group who had your hay days when you got superior firearms from Portuguese to procure slaves for them from inland.
As soon as the firearms proliferated, the surrounding tribes pushed you shameless savages back, and ever since then, you are still living in nostalgia of your looting, invasion and pillaging days of neighboring groups for filthy Portuguese bronze coins that you use for your inferior arts.
The joke is on you.
grin grin

The joke is on you.

The great Benin empire doesn't need the validation of your insignificant igbo tribe to know it is one of the greatest civilization to ever come out of Africa.

It is you that is trying so hard to prove a point that igbos had anything in its primitive history to talk about.

Even now you are limited to your 5 small states which Buhari has rightly called a dot and thats what you igbos are.

An insignificant dot.

You keep crying and crying of marginalization in present day Nigeria and thats because you igbos are cry babies.

You keep trying to grab other tribes in the Niger delta and they keep rejecting you.


Igbos simply lack selfworth hence they are trying to claim tribes in river state, delta state and everywhere.

And they keep shaming you.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 2:42pm On Oct 28, 2021
ariesbull:


They built a moat to protect themselves

Ndiigbo had kept quiet enough, that's why these low achieving groups feel they could stand before our ancestors.
Bini that Awka blacksmiths were teaching better methods of bronze works.
I mean, look at what we were doing in 1924/25.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 2:49pm On Oct 28, 2021
saddler:

grin grin

The joke is on you.

The great Benin empire doesn't need the validation of your insignificant igbo tribe to know it is one of the greatest civilization to ever come out of Africa.

It is you that is trying so hard to prove a point that igbos had anything in its primitive history to talk about.

Even now you are limited to your 5 small states which Buhari has rightly called a dot and thats what you igbos are.

An insignificant dot.

You keep crying and crying of marginalization in present day Nigeria and thats because you igbos are cry babies.

You keep trying to grab other tribes in the Niger delta and they keep rejecting you.


Igbos simply lack selfworth hence they are trying to claim tribes in river state, delta state and everywhere.

And they keep shaming you.

Lol! Bini of three LGA. A minority among Minorities.
Hahaha!
There is nothing about an empire built on Portuguese firearms used to invade fellow blacks and supply to Portuguese ships.
A mushroom empire that was ransacked in a matter of 48hours, is that one an empire? grin

Ndiigbo are a superior race. So superior that we have so called Bini decendants even in Edo state, Delta and Rivers dumping your backward Bini language for Igbo one.
I mean even in your Edo State you have people walking around with surnames like Chukwuma! grin
A mere interaction between Ndiigbo and their Bini ancestors was enough to convince them of the superiority of Igbo language, names and culture, so much that they dumped their Bini ones for Igbo one! Are you not ashamed to admit this? wink

Igbos are crying to leave NIGERIA, not because an insignificant minority like Edo or indeed any other group is doing better than Ndiigbo in Nigeria.
But because we know we should be competing with the world and not with laid back groups with no hope or desire for progress that are in Nigeria.grin

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Tallest45(m): 3:05pm On Oct 28, 2021
Them done return replica to una keep original.. Lols but no shakin
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 3:20pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Ndiigbo had kept quiet enough, that's why these low achieving groups feel they could stand before our ancestors.
Bini that Awka blacksmiths were teaching better methods of bronze works.
I mean, look at what we were doing in 1924/25.

When Lejja was doing smithworks the benin were in loin cloths including their kings


When igbo ukwu was having a complex administrative system their benin kings were naked


It was awka smiths that even taught them rudimentary metal works

Eze Chima taught those savages fine details of igbo republicanism messed with monarchy, gave them market days


You can imagine tiny benin that never conquered any land claiming heaven and earth

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 3:26pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


Ndiigbo had kept quiet enough, that's why these low achieving groups feel they could stand before our ancestors.
Bini that Awka blacksmiths were teaching better methods of bronze works.
I mean, look at what we were doing in 1924/25.

Even their governor Obaseki is an igbo man and has igbo ancestry....

Ogbemudia also was an igbo man from igbanke


You can inagine tiny benin claiming something
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Igboid: 3:29pm On Oct 28, 2021
ariesbull:


Even their governor Obaseki is an igbo man and has igbo ancestry....

Ogbemudia also was an igbo man from igbanke


You can inagine tiny benin claiming something

We have kept quiet long enough.
Even the artwork they are praising here has an Igbo name: Okuko. These people are using Igbo market days. Ask them how that came about, they claim it was shared, they would never accept they borrowed from Igbo or were influenced by us.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were produced by Awka smiths.
I mean Awka blacksmiths went as far as Okitipupa teaching their superior metallurgy to indigenes there.
They went as far as Cameroon.
https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland

We can't keep quiet anymore. Lest our children start thinking these people could hold a candle near their ancestors.

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by ariesbull: 3:37pm On Oct 28, 2021
Igboid:


We have kept quiet long enough.
Even the artwork they are praising here has an Igbo name: Okuko. These people are using Igbo market days. Ask them how that came about, they claim it was shared, they would never accept they borrowed from Igbo or were influenced by us.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were produced by Awka smiths.
I mean Awka blacksmiths went as far as Okitipupa teaching their superior metallurgy to indigenes there.
They went as far as Cameroon.
https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland

We can't keep quiet anymore. Lest our children start thinking these people could hold a candle near their ancestors.


Even igbo gave these benin urchins the concept of guardian angel or personal ....in igbo land it is known as Chi, while Aro merchants and Nri Priest surjoned there they introduced that concept to them...that is what these guys call Ehi


You can imagine benin empire of 18th century claiming powerful when they were been over run by western igbo from Agbor to Asaba ...that they built a moat to protect themselves...bunch of cowards ...why build moat if you were that powerful


Bunch of noise makers.....

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Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Qualer: 3:40pm On Oct 28, 2021
Mftivi:
oga getat, mofoking house niggga! Go eat some white pooo

...and there it is - the empty brain farts of an intellectually challenged scallywag!! cool
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by JOemmy(m): 4:14pm On Oct 28, 2021
The name sounds Igbo that's exactly the name for chicken in Igbo language.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by johndwayy(m): 6:30pm On Oct 28, 2021
tujays:
Have you been to Japan, China, Korea and many nations that got nothing to do with Christianity before? They are not Christians and even Blatantly rejected it but Understood and respect Humanity more than you. Christianity Is not the problem, Spirituality is... all we need is spirituality and not Christianity. Christianity worked for its owners the Europeans just like Buddhism is working for the Chinese to understand their purpose and act by it. but Christianity/Islam doesn't work for Nigeria and Africa coz that's not who we are, that's not our path. We would have been more civilized and respect the Human nature if we took our time to ask our gods the path to civilization just like the Chinese, The Koreans and The Japanese. we are living on a borrowed path no wonder hatred, corruption and evil Is deep In our society even when we claim to be more religious than those who Introduced them to us.

Bros, I don't see how Christianity or religion is the problem here. So before the Europeans came to Africa, our fore fathers were all living peacefully and making all round progress? Have you not read the real story of slave trade? Was the Rwandan genocide caused by Christianity? Christianity has got nothing to do with how Africa (Nigeria) is now.. Though I can't say same of the other religion of piss. The truth is, something has been wrong with us Africans even before the Europeans came, it's just becoming evident and more obvious now.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by johndwayy(m): 6:33pm On Oct 28, 2021
Qualer:


anybody in doubt should look up north and some middle eastern countries!! grin

Thank God you said up North and not down South. Even the middle eastern countries that are being ravaged by wars, where do they run to? Is it not this same Christian European countries? Abeg make we leave matter and try to work on our mindset first.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by onumadu: 5:37am On Oct 29, 2021
I really enjoyed this thread, not minding some folks who can't take a joke ...

I learned a few things from Igboid as usual. cheesy
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by masseratti: 8:42am On Oct 29, 2021
ariesbull:


Corn was brought by europeans are you guys crazy....how and when

Farm/Forest whatever


Ozuo
you see why you are disgracing yourself online... On internet, just thank your God this is an anonymous forum, or else what you just said will be shown to your children and grandchildren, that you are a liar... When they say go school and read you refused.. So how will you know corn, maize is it indigenous to Africa, same way cocoa is not indigenous... Both were brought from South America oga.. Google is your friend use it and stop saying rubbish online.
Re: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by MrMacinterchi1: 7:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
tamdun:
Akukọ =cock
Akuko =Story Okuko= Cock (Rooster)

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