Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Each year, Transparency International publishes a Corruption Perception Index that ranks public-sector corruption in 180 countries and territories. Is corruption less widespread in religious countries than less religious ones? The answer is an unequivocal “no”—in fact, religious countries actually tend to be more corrupt than secular ones. This study shows that New Zealand, Denmark, Finland and Switzerland are the least corrupt counties in 2020. According to a study conducted in 2018, almost 50% of people in New Zealand said they don’t gave a religion.


So the question now become, why religious countries are the most corrupt and irreligious countries are more moral despite the fact that religion claim to preach morality?
Look at Nigeria for example, about 95% religious but nothing to write home about in terms of morals.
Why?

Workch:
Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Each year, Transparency International publishes a Corruption Perception Index that ranks public-sector corruption in 180 countries and territories. Is corruption less widespread in religious countries than less religious ones? The answer is an unequivocal “no”—in fact, religious countries actually tend to be more corrupt than secular ones. This study shows that New Zealand, Denmark, Finland and Switzerland are the least corrupt counties in 2020. According to a study conducted in 2018, almost 50% of people in New Zealand said they don’t gave a religion.


So the question now become, why religious countries are the most corrupt and irreligious countries are more moral despite the fact that religion claim to preach morality?
Look at Nigeria for example, about 95% religious but nothing to write home about in terms of morals.
Why?

Go to Saudi Arabia and steal Maggi, but before you go count your fingers and think of the one you'll prefer to loose if it's to be chopped off!

it's mostly cause of hypocrisy and to me religion is a tool that humans created for their own benefits but majority of present day humans aren't even enlightened enough to see through this grand delusion.
Christian's for examples are very good when it comes to picking different parts of their "unholy book" that's suits/justifies whatever bullshit they did or about to do.
Religion isnt really a scam,its simply a tool in my own perspective,that's why Nigeria is the way it is lol the more religois we we claim to be the more we would be manipulated and oppressed by our leaders cause they know this things to the core. Many of them are closet atheists but outside they feign religious lmao just to keep enriching themselves and continuously basking in the euphoria of being powerful.

Simple: Because, the Best Frauds and the most success full Deception Are Best Commited by People who Appear to have no problems.

So these Satanist have to Appear to have "Good" houses to maintain the Fraud and Deceits they sell!

From the Book, How to Con the Simple and Stupid.101

Workch:
Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Aha! See this man O? It is proven True Already!

Social cohesion is broken down completely. The Family Unit is Destroyed. Husbands and wives do not relate well, Divorce is up and up.

Morality is murdered! Where in the past you got helped without a charge now you pay for any help. Where in the past people would kindly lead you aright joking that they would lead you into trouble, today, one can not trust people's kindness.

Evil and wickedness is popular and easily done these days than in the past.

So, as Usual, you are Wrong!

The Prediction came through today eg
https://www.nairaland.com/6812077/why-support-fraud (Promotion of immorality)

https://www.nairaland.com/6823533/after-eviction-brother-in-law-imo-court (Family Destruction)

https://www.nairaland.com/6814346/wife-refused-swear-she-does (Marriage Destruction)

....

Workch:

Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

"less corrupt and lower murder rates".

That is why you people are blind and do not see very well not think properly.

Scattered scrambled thoughts makes a person blind.

You thought started with "social cohesion" and "public morality" then you abandoned it and went on to corruption and murder rates.

That is exactly how insane people think also

Workch:

Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Meanwhile, since these countries became irreligious, Crimes Massively And Grossly Increased as Reported by their own media channels and Crime Experts.

So once again, you Lie.

Dliquidmetal:
it's mostly cause of hypocrisy and to me religion is a tool that humans created for their own benefits but majority of present day humans aren't even enlightened enough to see through this grand delusion.
Christian's for examples are very good when it comes to picking different parts of their "unholy book" that's suits/justifies whatever bullshit they did or about to do.
Religion isnt really a scam,its simply a tool in my own perspective,that's why Nigeria is the way it is lol the more religois we we claim to be the more we would be manipulated and oppressed by our leaders cause they know this things to the core. Many of them are closet atheists but outside they feign religious lmao just to keep enriching themselves and continuously basking in the euphoria of being powerful.

I feel so myself.
I think I should also open a church to deceive all these gullible Christians.

Workch:
I feel so myself.
I think I should also open a church to deceive all these gullible Christians.

it's a very very lucrative business I tell you with a very super risk to reward ratio but I'm not down to manipulating vulnerable people for my own benefits. Religion doesn't make people morally upright,those gods of men aren't upright but dubious businessmen and I cant join league.

Dliquidmetal:
it's a very very lucrative business I tell you with a very super risk to reward ratio but I'm not down to manipulating vulnerable people for my own benefits. Religion doesn't make people morally upright,those gods of men aren't upright but dubious businessmen and I cant join league.

Lol, a business where those you scam will even defend you. Even the law got your back

Damn

Dliquidmetal:
it's mostly cause of hypocrisy and to me religion is a tool that humans created for their own benefits but majority of present day humans aren't even enlightened enough to see through this grand delusion.
Christian's for examples are very good when it comes to picking different parts of their "unholy book" that's suits/justifies whatever bullshit they did or about to do.
Religion isnt really a scam,its simply a tool in my own perspective,that's why Nigeria is the way it is lol the more religois we we claim to be the more we would be manipulated and oppressed by our leaders cause they know this things to the core. Many of them are closet atheists but outside they feign religious lmao just to keep enriching themselves and continuously basking in the euphoria of being powerful.

You are describing what people like you love doing and they truly do no matter what Cloak they wear.

Church goers are not the Same as Christians.

Christians will not commit crimes, church goers will.

And it is the way of church goers and you alike to learn new ways of living dishonesty and Fraudulently exactly as you and Workch are now planning on doing.

It has nothing to do with Christ nor His Followers.

Workch:
Lol, a business where those you scam will even defend you. Even the law got your back

Damn

Yes, that is get when you tell God to leave you Alone.

So commit crimes, you might not get a prison cell as Hushpuppi who thought the same too.

Dliespeaker on the beat... Nairaland's greatest hypocrite!

Dtruthspeaker:


You are describing what people like you love doing and they truly do no matter what Cloak they wear.

Church goers are not the Same as Christians.

Christians will not commit crimes, church goers will.

And it is the way of church goers and you alike to learn new ways of living dishonesty and Fraudulently exactly as you and Workch are now planning on doing.

It has nothing to do with Christ nor His Followers.

I always see your comments all over this forum and to be honest you come off as a very dishonest and delusional human being.
In full glare of verifiable evidences you would always pride yourself in blissful ignorance or maybe denial. I hope you heal one day,before your love for the illusion in which you live in gets the better of you.

A001:
Dliespeaker on the beat... Nairaland's greatest hypocrite!

Translation! "Dtruthspeaker can dey burst our Lie and no dey let us enjoy am make we use am dey kill stupid people"

Workch:
Lol, a business where those you scam will even defend you. Even the law got your back

Damn

An almost risk free business with mad ROI damn! But I no do,I'd rather make my crumbs and drink water and mind my business

Dliquidmetal:
An almost risk free business with mad ROI damn! But I no do,I'd rather make my crumbs and drink water and mind my business

Why na? You go dey popular, you go buy Jet, all the miss universe go dey warm your bed (abi na guy you dey do?)

e profit you na.

Workch:
Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Each year, Transparency International publishes a Corruption Perception Index that ranks public-sector corruption in 180 countries and territories. Is corruption less widespread in religious countries than less religious ones? The answer is an unequivocal “no”—in fact, religious countries actually tend to be more corrupt than secular ones. This study shows that New Zealand, Denmark, Finland and Switzerland are the least corrupt counties in 2020. According to a study conducted in 2018, almost 50% of people in New Zealand said they don’t gave a religion.


So the question now become, why religious countries are the most corrupt and irreligious countries are more moral despite the fact that religion claim to preach morality?
Look at Nigeria for example, about 95% religious but nothing to write home about in terms of morals.
Why?

Simple!

The African man is Anti-Knowings and Hates to Know.

The Countries you Love so much, Love Knowings, beginning with the fact that They Very Much Know their Rights, Which the Creator (not man) Gave (Endowed) to Every Man and that it Can Not be Separated (Alienated) from them as Confessed in the American Declaration of Independence 1776.

Thus if you exercise your Right to do Evil, the other man can and shall exercise that same Right too!

Consequently, if you steal, they have a right to do same, if you kill, I too can and so on, until they Destroy themselves and None is Left!

Therefore to deter and prevent themselves from destroying themselves, they have declared a truce between themselves exactly as the Cold War between America and Russia and of course, Suing for Peace and Punishment of Crimes being Upheld.

The African man on the other hand does not know nor care for his God given rights thus failing to safeguard his rights, your loss!

Now your other Evil Selfs have Taken Advantage of your loss and gained from it, teaching you, your Rights was given by man in the name of constitution, Stealing you Blind, fleecing you of your hard earned revenues using Business Centres aka Churches etcetera and now you finally feel the effects of the Robbery of your Rights especially the Right to Food, Good Shelter, e.t.c you come to complain and Blame God for your own Foolishness rather than yourself for being soooo Foolish and your fellow man for being soooo Evil!

But you Would Not be A Foolish Evil man if you Do Not Blame the Innocent and the Good, so no Surprises here!

Dliquidmetal:
I always see your comments all over this forum and to be honest you come off as a very dishonest and delusional human being.
In full glare of verifiable evidences you would always pride yourself in blissful ignorance or maybe denial. I hope you heal one day,before your love for the illusion in which you live in gets the better of you.

You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

Dliquidmetal:
I always see your comments all over this forum and to be honest you come off as a very dishonest and delusional human being.
In full glare of verifiable evidences you would always pride yourself in blissful ignorance or maybe denial. I hope you heal one day,before your love for the illusion in which you live in gets the better of you.

Dtruthspeaker..thus did not come from my fingers..

I promise to pay for your treatment.

My offer still stands..

Bacteriologist:


You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

Shall the Successful ever take the reason of the Failure?

Or the Reasonable, the reason of the Unreasonable?

Never!

Times without number you have lost to Us and our Type, so we know you are Only Complaining that you are Unable to Beat Us!

Dliquidmetal:
I always see your comments all over this forum and to be honest you come off as a very dishonest and delusional human being.
In full glare of verifiable evidences you would always pride yourself in blissful ignorance or maybe denial. I hope you heal one day,before your love for the illusion in which you live in gets the better of you.

Dishonesty is always in darkness, yet I declare everything I say in the plain sight for all to see and justly measure and rightly judge.

So how is it you Falsely Accuse me of being dishonest when I have set myself up to EXAMINED?

Are you that fully Pro-Wickedness that it impossible for me to get " A Fair and Just" judgement from you?

Yet, you complain about the injustice of the world, but here you are giving the same injustice you complain of.

"In full glare of verifiable evidences"- Show me one case in which a Truth, which is known in every Nation and people, to be True in Nature and Natural Living, which I have said, is not True?

Can Anyone Argue that Lagos does not have Traffic or that men get pregnant? Only evils like you people do so by bending other truths so as to make it appear that you say that "men can get pregnant and there is no traffic in Lagos" WHICH OF COURSE IS A MIGHTY BIG LIE!

So you can not reasonably justify your accusation against me at all.

You just seek to villify me because I reasonably show the world how you people are Lying and WHAT THE IRREFUTABLE TRUTH IS.

AND YOUR PROBLEM IS SIMPLY BECAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN REASONABLY AND PROPERLY REBUT THE TRUTH WHEN I PRESENT IT.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REASONABLY ARGUE AGAINST THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT GOD HAS DONE

which is my Signature Pronounces The Law which States "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH".

So it is not me whom you Fight, IT IS AGAINST GOD HIMSELF!

Bacteriologist:


You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

Yeah, I have also adopted that strategy.
Avoid a mad man when you see one.

Bacteriologist:


You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

I hope they do heal,imagine going through life from infancy till six feet below with a veil on your face........Living all days of ones life in shackles and also fighting anyone who offers to unshackle and unveil..such a pitiable way to live.

sonmvayina:


Dtruthspeaker..thus did not come from my fingers..

I promise to pay for your treatment.

My offer still stands..

Sure, it did not come directly from your fingers but they are your clones. Therefore, you are the same save that you are in Truth an Insane Person with Lucid moments but they are just plain evil wicked souls as you are.

That is all.

Bacteriologist:


You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

Religion or no religion it is impossible to Argue Against The Truth.

Like someone arguing that Lagos does not have Traffic or that men do not get pregnant.

There is No Valid Argument Anywhere, Anytime, Against The Truth.

So of course it is reasonable for you to stay silent rather than BE PUT TO SHAME BECAUSE YOU FOOLISHLY THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT!

Dliquidmetal:
I hope they do heal,imagine going through life from infancy till six feet below with a veil on your face........Living all days of ones life in shackles and also fighting anyone who offers to unshackle and unveil..such a pitiable way to live.

ANYONE WITH A VEIL CAN NEVER WALK CONFIDENTLY. THEY SHALL CRASH INTO OBJECTS AND WOUND THEMSELVES BADLY AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN WOMEN WHO WEAR VEILS DURING WHITE WEDDINGS..

Dliquidmetal:
I hope they do heal,imagine going through life from infancy till six feet below with a veil on your face........Living all days of ones life in shackles and also fighting anyone who offers to unshackle and unveil..such a pitiable way to live.

Most who resort to piss poor apologetics are those who have something or the other to gain from religion. Also, they are those who esteem their indoctrination, ego, and stomach above what is actually true.

Losing my religion, had consequences, but they were not so dire. I was a successful instrumentalist in my church, I had posts and would like be a minister by now if I didn't cared about the sincerity of my beliefs. It hurt me to lose those things, to find out I had invested so much into Christianity that turned out to be a false religion, but I knew I was only 21, there was plenty of time to redeem the losses. I still struggle with some of the mistakes I made as a result of placing my faith above everything else, but generally things are looking up.

I believe the same is the case for some of these people as well but the consequences may be different. They simply are incapable (they can't afford it) of seeing the ills in their religion. Because their ego, indoctrination, family ties, financial needs, investments whatever prevents them from seeing it.

I think it all boils down to your core values. Do you care in believing what's right according to the evidence OVER what your family believes/what brings food to your table/what gives you purpose/what you were taught since you were a kid?

I think that's what differentiates the dishonest engagers in this forum from the relatively honest ones.

Workch:
Yeah, I have also adopted that strategy.
Avoid a mad man when you see one.

That is reasonable since you wish to sell Lies which you foolishly thought was TRUE but having been Whooped out of The Truth Hall of Fame in Shame, Disgrace and Failure, You have to Stay Silent, in the dark, as you plot the destruction of other men.

Religion really has nothing to do with why some countries are more corrupt than others. It may appear so to you, but it is not what it seems.

Poverty and the level of literacy is to be blamed. If religion is banned in Nigeria , it wouldn't result in less corruption or make people start to reason rationally

As long as poverty still remains and there is no access to good quality education, people will do anything to survive or behave the way they like. It is like a war situation where people will do anything to eat anything and drink anything to stay alive.

If poverty becomes endemic in those countries you mentioned, corruption will start to reign over there.

Eradicating religion is not the solution. I can't find anywhere in the Koran or Bible where adherents are advised to embrace corruption or behave irresponsibly.

It all boils down to the people practicing those religion.

triplechoice:

Religion really has nothing to do with why some countries are more corrupt than others. It may appear so to you, but it is not what it seems.

Poverty and the level of literacy is to be blamed. If religion is banned in Nigeria , it wouldn't result in less corruption or make people start to reason rationally

As long as poverty still remains and there is no access to good quality education, people will do anything to survive or behave the way they like. It is like a war situation where people will do anything to eat anything and drink anything to stay alive.

If poverty becomes endemic in those countries you mentioned, corruption will start to reign over there.

Eradicating religion is not the solution. I can't find anywhere in the Koran or Bible where adherents are advised to embrace corruption or behave irresponsibly.

It all boils down to the people practicing those religion.

It all boils down to whatever the people choose to do at any particular point in time.

To think that the Bible expressly prohibits adultery, fornication, incest yet people sleep with other people's spouses and children and close family members.

Nations Laws Prohibit Crimes yet those nations allow the offenders to escape punishment.

Yet,these Satanist, who are the primary doers of these evil things, refuse to consider this and rather seek to heap the blame squarely on the practice (religion) of Respecting and Honouring God.

Bacteriologist:


Most who resort to piss poor apologetics are those who have something or the other to gain from religion. Also, they are those who esteem their indoctrination, ego, and stomach above what is actually true.

Losing my religion, had consequences, but they were not so dire. I was a successful instrumentalist in my church, I had posts and would like be a minister by now if I didn't cared about the sincerity of my beliefs. It hurt me to lose those things, to find out I had invested so much into Christianity that turned out to be a false religion, but I knew I was only 21, there was plenty of time to redeem the losses. I still struggle with some of the mistakes I made as a result of placing my faith above everything else, but generally things are looking up.

I believe the same is the case for some of these people as well but the consequences may be different. They simply are incapable (they can't afford it) of seeing the ills in their religion. Because their ego, indoctrination, family ties, financial needs, investments whatever prevents them from seeing it.

I think it all boils down to your core values. Do you care in believing what's right according to the evidence OVER what your family believes/what brings food to your table/what gives you purpose/what you were taught since you were a kid?

I think that's what differentiates the dishonest engagers in this forum from the relatively honest ones.

Wow!!! It took a lot of sacrifices,that explains why this "Thedishonestspeaker" cant afford to reason beyond his indoctrination.....I would do myself well by not engaging in further exchanges with him henceforth cause it's pointless really because I've been there myself.