Stevenson20:
Una dey deceive unasef. The virus only exist overseas, Nigerian cannot be fooled the second time with this bullshit virus.


Even if it exists, we might have even contacted it and get over with it as we do with malaria and typhoid. We have strong immune system coupled with the hardship we have been experiencing since we were born.

Una second phaze of looting with this Omicron bullshit won't work.

Mrchippychappy:
This country na wa.

Una go use una hand spoil country name finish and then turn around to accuse the innocent youths of being responsible for the bad name the country has!

All this miracle discovery just so dey can take their begging bowl to USA, EU and WHO to beg for funds to "combat" the spread of Omicron.

Jpolgar:
Please can anyone enlighten me on how these variants are detected? Abi no be the same PCR test? The one that CDC admits cannot differentiate between covid & the common flu? Please anyone who knows should inform mq2e.

Jpolgar:
Please can anyone enlighten me on how these variants are detected? Abi no be the same PCR test? The one that CDC admits cannot differentiate between covid & the common flu? Please anyone who knows should inform me.

Mrchippychappy:
This country na wa.

Una go use una hand spoil country name finish and then turn around to accuse the innocent youths of being responsible for the bad name the country has!

All this miracle discovery just so dey can take their begging bowl to USA, EU and WHO to beg for funds to "combat" the spread of Omicron.

Mrchippychappy:
This country na wa.

Una go use una hand spoil country name finish and then turn around to accuse the innocent youths of being responsible for the bad name the country has!

All this miracle discovery just so dey can take their begging bowl to USA, EU and WHO to beg for funds to "combat" the spread of Omicron.

Kingzy4pep:
Is this Doctor not a fool? He probably thinks there's a prize for who discovers it first.

If you even check properly, this omicron didn't start in SA.
The westerners are just masturbating on this discovery by barning flights from most African nations because we aren't buying the idea of vaccination.
South Africans too go talk sef. If na Europeans, them go chill.

Mrchippychappy:
This country na wa.

Una go use una hand spoil country name finish and then turn around to accuse the innocent youths of being responsible for the bad name the country has!

All this miracle discovery just so dey can take their begging bowl to USA, EU and WHO to beg for funds to "combat" the spread of Omicron.

Mrchippychappy:
This country na wa.

Una go use una hand spoil country name finish and then turn around to accuse the innocent youths of being responsible for the bad name the country has!

All this miracle discovery just so dey can take their begging bowl to USA, EU and WHO to beg for funds to "combat" the spread of Omicron.

Mrchippychappy:


Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10262197/Omicron-Covid-Nigeria-says-case-new-variant-dates-October.html

Lanrextop23333:
Buhari won't close border now ooo

Slurity:
with Your statement, it is glaring, you don't understand medical practice a bit. If you did not understand why the discovery has to be revealed then you are probably among those that did not understand science and did not even believe the virus exist in the first place

passion007:


First clarify where and when CDC claimed PCR tests can't differentiate covid from the flu

MASTERCHIEF0847:

The testing done by CDC in the lab is different from the normal PCR test.
The samples are further tested/worked on by virologists in the CDC lab.

Franking:
Travel ban loading. Nothing concern me sha. Where I wan travel go?

omoharry:
Abi Canada don add Nigeria to the list of Africa nation to be banned due to this new virus .

Jpolgar:


Fact checkers will spin it differently. But please read 2nd sentence Last paragraph. Keyword: differentiation

passion007:


I don't think you understand what you've just posted. It's hard to address your post because it means I will need to start from the basics and explain what PCR means, but I'll try.

PCR means Polymerase Chain Reaction, its a technology developed many years ago for testing for different medical conditions, so it isn't unique to coronavirus at all. It predates covid 19 by over 20 years actually!

Multiplex PCR simply means testing for 2 or more conditions at once. It means checking chlamydia and gonorrhoea with one test, rather than two. Or testing for syphilis and HIV with one test rather than two. This technology already exists. What the CDC is proposing is to test for Influenza and Coronavirus with one test rather than two. This does not mean both viruses are the same. Each test will detect a unique part of the respective virus and so it is possible to test positive for covid and not flu, or vice versa, or even test positive to both, or to neither.

At no point did the CDC say that they can't tell one virus from the other; that misinformation is borne from your own limited understanding of the subject matter.

Jpolgar:
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So basically PCR gives a lot of false positives. I'm sure you're also aware that above 35cycles, the test is basically useless. And yet around the world its been done at 40 cycles & above.

passion007:


I'll tell you a test that has no false positives at all - coronavirus viral culture.

Culture will correctly identify every case of coronavirus, but will take several days to make a diagnosis, whereas PCR tests are instant in some cases. This means patients can be diagnosed earlier and treatment started earlier with PCR.

Secondly, PCR is a safe testing system, with minimal risk to handlers and laboratory staff while culture means growing a sample until the amount of virus is significant enough to be detected on the growth medium, with a significant biosafety hazard.

PCR will correctly identify 99 out of 100 cases of covid and culture will identify all 100 cases

Imagine for a second that you're the public health expert planning a large scale community testing for your village, which option will you go for between PCR and culture?

Lastly, what do you mean PCR gives a lot of false positives? That has never been a concern. The concern has always been a high number of false negatives!!

Jpolgar:


Are you speaking in general terms or with regards to covid? In general terms, I'll say you're spot on. In regards to covid, not so much. Like I said earlier, above 35 cycles it produces lots of false positives. I'm not sure what the current practice is, but last year, most labs around the world were running PCR above 35 cycles resulting in a large number of cases.

passion007:


What do you mean 'not so much' in regards to covid? Would be helpful if you clarify your disagreement.

35 cycles of what exactly?

Jpolgar:


PCR is kinda like photocopying on a molecular level. The process of replicating the RNA of the virus is called a cycle. For a better explanation, please check out the link below.

https://www.coleparmer.com/tech-article/pcr-process-steps-explained

passion007:



You're talking to a PCR expert mate. Really funny trying to explain PCR to me.

I see you're referring to replication cycles, and once again, your comment reveals no knowledge of the workings of PCR technology.

"Photocopying on a molecular level"? that's too simplistic. Try thinking of it as "amplifying viral molecules" and you may start to understand it better.
And what is that talk about 35 amplification cycles causing high false positives?
That's what happens when you try to learn an entire specialism from blog posts.
May be if you think "How many times can I amplify this dot (.) so that I can see it from 6 metres away?" If there's no dot there to start with, even if you amplify it a million times, you will see nothing.
But if there is a dot, however small, you can amplify it until it is visible from 6m away, whether it takes 40 or 60 amplification cycles to get to that point, and that is not a false positive!

You have really inspired me to think of writing a book "PCR for Beginners"

Jpolgar:


You're funny man. PCR expert asking what I mean by 35 cycles. PCR can also pick up dead nucleotides from an old infection. I explained what I meant in a simple sentence so anyone reading would understand & it's too simplistic?
When you publish that book, please tag me. I'd like to have a copy. One love man

passion007:


The entire time, I thought you were referring to batch cycle testing which is notably done in Ghana to save testing material, I would never have thought anyone would misunderstand the amplification cycle the way you have!

I recognise when people have no further argument, they finish with good wishes.
With that in mind, I'm not sure if you want me to explain your 'dead nucleotide' concept so you can better understand it, but given you haven't really engaged with any of my points, other than pushing the goal post a little further each time, I presume you don't want any further explanations from myself.