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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 6:47pm On Jan 06, 2022
Zooposki:


Mixed blood? Ukwuani and Ndokwa West think they are pure blood? Whom are their ancestors? Are they not mixed too? This is confusing.

It is reality.Anyway make stop this discussion on their internal wahala.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Zooposki(f): 6:48pm On Jan 06, 2022
Sufferingboy:


It is reality.Anyway make stop this discussion on their internal wahala.

Ok. I understand.
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Vintagepipes: 11:20pm On Jan 06, 2022


Why are they oppressing them?
...The main gross is that Ndo-Oshimili consider themselves mostly to be 100% Igbo
.... while Ukwuanis are mostly divided on this topic.
..I guess this is one big problem. Ndo-Oshimilli themselves do not like associating much with Ukwuanis because of this...

...The great Ukwuani have lost their glory though.
...Aboh, which was once a great place, on the same level with Onitsha is now a small lifeless small town. Glory lost.

...Generally, I feel that "Anioma" people are not very wise in playing the political game in Delta state, the way the "Igboids" of River state.
...See the way River state is rotating it amongst themselves.

...The "pure Igbos" (Enuanis[Aniocha &Oshimili), Ika and Ukwuani can never come together.
... The small progress they made through the "Anioma" union. internal wars and political strife wouldn't let them sit together and forge a common power block.

..Anioma should be deciding singlehandedly where the vice will come from, they will only give up power when they feel they want to.

....If it becomes hard, you just need to just go across the bridge or cross the river to Anambra to get all the support you need.

...However, the other ethnic groups (Urhobo especially) know how potentially powerful your powers can be and they have indirectly fuelled that division amongst the "Igboids" in Delta.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Vintagepipes: 11:27pm On Jan 06, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Well,Ndo-oshimilis claim they were not actually ukwuanis that Ukwuanis forced ukwuani language on them,but ukwuanis in Ukwuani LGA and Ndokwa west claim that Ndo-oshimilis(Ndokwa east) are ukwuanis who live close to water that their language is one of the ukwuani dialects.

Yes it is true,Ndokwa east(Ndo-oshimilis) seem to have low self esteem so they tried to deny that they are not ukwuanis.Don't forget Ndo-oshimilis are the ukwuanis that live close to river niger and epecially aboh kingdom.They have maritime boundary with ukwuanis in rivers state(Ndoni).


Another problem is the existence of Isokos in Ndokwa east,they have so much intermarry and mixed their blood with Ndo-oshimilis(Ukwuanis in Ndokwa East LGA).
......There is nothing like low self esteem. If anything, Ndo-Oshimili are the ones who think they are superior.
.....Developments came to them first, in fact almost in the whole of Delta state, they were developed first.

.....Ndo-Oshimili see themselves as pure Igbos and feel Ukwuani (especially in Ukwuani LGA) are mixed and are too Biniphilic.

....Ndo-Oshimili are extremely Igbophilic.. They think they are 100% Igbos and do not want to associate with other Ukwuanis because those ones are divided.

...No, Ndo-Oshimili ever feel any sort of low-esteem, if anything they have a feeling of superiority because they see themselves as pure Igbos.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 11:59pm On Jan 06, 2022
Zooposki:


Mixed blood? Ukwuani and Ndokwa West think they are pure blood? Whom are their ancestors? Are they not mixed too? This is confusing.
Sufferingboy is not telling you because it does not fit his Igbophobia. In the past, Ndosumili were very influential in the area. They also see themselves as 100% Igbo. They think the Ukwanis have an identity crisis.

In Summary, this is the simple answer well-captured answer from an Ndo-Osumili native.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:16am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:

Sufferingboy is not telling you because it does not fit his Igbophobia. In the past, Ndosumili were very influential in the area. They also see themselves as 100% Igbo. They think the Ukwanis have an identity crisis.

In Summary, this is the simple answer well-captured answer from an Ndo-Osumili native.

Anyone can go on social media and cteate fake account to pretend to be an Ndo-oshimilis.

Perhaps,Ndo-oshimilis are still under the mercy of the other ukwuanis.So stop this your propaganda.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:26am On Jan 07, 2022
Vintagepipes:

......There is nothing like low self esteem. If anything, Ndo-Oshimili are the ones who think they are superior.
.....Developments came to them first, in fact almost in the whole of Delta state, they were developed first.

.....Ndo-Oshimili see themselves as pure Igbos and feel Ukwuani (especially in Ukwuani LGA) are mixed and are too Biniphilic.

....Ndo-Oshimili are extremely Igbophilic.. They think they are 100% Igbos and do not want to associate with other Ukwuanis because those ones are divided.

...No, Ndo-Oshimili ever feel any sort of low-esteem, if anything they have a feeling of superiority because they see themselves as pure Igbos.

Development came to them first but they are the poorest today.

Even the Ukwuanis in River state(Ndoni) are more prosperous and richer.

Yes some Ndo-oshimilis may have some igbo slaves from Igbo hinterland who settled among them but they are not Igbos but Ukwuanis.

Politics naim spoil everything,and oil companies understand this so they alway make sure they something use Ndo-oshimilis to fight other Ukwuanis so it will be easier to rape them of their oil without developing the area.




in the so called ANIOMA UNION the Oshimili Igbos are the biggest beneficiary,they contribute nothing but have capital city develop with oil money from other part of ANIOMA.

Ukwuani land need serious development.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 9:26am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Anyone can go on social media and cteate fake account to pretend to be an Ndo-oshimilis.

Perhaps,Ndo-oshimilis are still under the mercy of the other ukwuanis.So stop this your propaganda.

Please, an influential youth leader and group admin in one of the largest Ndokwa group is just "anybody"?

Correct yourself... it is Ndo-Osumili (you don't even know how to spell what you claim to have knowledge about)

I don't think you know them too well... you knowledge is definitely limited. It is Ndo-Osumili that see themselves as superior. They have been for centuries. They have traded with Europeans and other ethnic groups long long before anybody in that vicinity.

Igboid, you can lend your voice. I know you know Ndo-Osumili a bit.



Either ways,
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 9:39am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Development came to them first but they are the poorest today.

Even the Ukwuanis in River state(Ndoni) are more prosperous and richer.

Yes some Ndo-oshimilis may have some igbo slaves from Igbo hinterland who settled among them but they are not Igbos but Ukwuanis.

Politics naim spoil everything,and oil companies understand this so they alway make sure they something use Ndo-oshimilis to fight other Ukwuanis so it will be easier to rape them of their oil without developing the area.




in the so called ANIOMA UNION the Oshimili Igbos are the biggest beneficiary,they contribute nothing but have capital city develop with oil money from other part of ANIOMA.

Ukwuani land need serious development.

Which Igbo slaves? You have started talking rubbish again. If anything the slaves in Ndo-Osumili were mostly from Ika. They didn't venture to the other side of the river because there were strong warriors on the other side. Their slaves came from Ika.

Where do you think the first meeting for the Bible started from?

Where is the first Igbo church in Delta built?

Who met King Obi Ossai first?

Do you know the meeting with Prince Tchukwuma in 1841?

Stick to Ika and stop dabbling in topics you have no idea about.

Ndo-Osumili believe they are Igbos 150%. That is the difference between them and other Ukwauanis.

Ukwuani and Ika share the same identity crisis. I be Igbo, I be Bini. same with Ukwuani. Ndo-Osumili are the one with a different mentality.

Mind you, they are not the poorest, they just have the larger landmass and miles of untouched land. Ika do not really have land. Ika are not richer than Igbos (Enuanis), they might be competing with Ukwuanis though.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:39am On Jan 07, 2022
Vintagepipes:

...The main gross is that Ndo-Oshimili consider themselves mostly to be 100% Igbo
.... while Ukwuanis are mostly divided on this topic.
..I guess this is one big problem. Ndo-Oshimilli themselves do not like associating much with Ukwuanis because of this...

...The great Ukwuani have lost their glory though.
...Aboh, which was once a great place, on the same level with Onitsha is now a small lifeless small town. Glory lost.

...Generally, I feel that "Anioma" people are not very wise in playing the political game in Delta state, the way the "Igboids" of River state.
...See the way River state is rotating it amongst themselves.

...The "pure Igbos" (Enuanis[Aniocha &Oshimili), Ika and Ukwuani can never come together.
... The small progress they made through the "Anioma" union. internal wars and political strife wouldn't let them sit together and forge a common power block.

..Anioma should be deciding singlehandedly where the vice will come from, they will only give up power when they feel they want to.

....If it becomes hard, you just need to just go across the bridge or cross the river to Anambra to get all the support you need.

...However, the other ethnic groups (Urhobo especially) know how potentially powerful your powers can be and they have indirectly fuelled that division amongst the "Igboids" in Delta.

Look the common people in Ika,Ukwuani,Igbos(Oshimili and Aniocha) are not really interested in that useless union.

It is the political elite who use it to play politics,Even okowa is using it too for his political carrer.

Remove the political elite from Igbos(Oshimilis and Aniocha),Ika and Ukwuani,then you will see the real picture of what is on ground.

Urhobos are not really playing politics,just that they have the highest population in delta state.

Imagine Urhobos,Itsekiri,Isoko forming one voting block.

But okowa has been able to liberate ijaws and Isoko in delta,so we have them on our side now.

No matter how long it take,Ikas in edo will surely join us in delta and a new LGA will be created for them.

It is will help our political importance in that state.

The truth of the matter is that on a normal,is that Agbor was suppose to be capital of delta state.But IBB play us wayo.

Agbor town was already develop while asaba was a village until asaba was made capital.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Igboid: 9:42am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:


Please, an influential youth leader and group admin in one of the largest Ndokwa group is just "anybody"?

Correct yourself... it is Ndo-Osumili (you don't even know how to spell what you claim to have knowledge about)

I don't think you know them too well... you knowledge is definitely limited. It is Ndo-Osumili that see themselves as superior. They have been for centuries. They have traded with Europeans and other ethnic groups long long before anybody in that vicinity.

Igboid, you can lend your voice. I know you know Ndo-Osumili a bit.



Either ways,

The character you are chatting with is not from Delta state let alone Anioma.
His other moniker is Dubailandlord.
I don't think he is worth the effort.
I think he is either from the North or from Edo state, likely those Edo Muslims.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:44am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:


Which Igbo slaves? You have started talking rubbish again. If anything the slaves in Ndo-Osumili were mostly from Ika. They didn't venture to the other side of the river because there were strong warriors on the other side. Their slaves came from Ika.

Where do you think the first meeting for the Bible started from?

Where is the first Igbo church in Delta built?

Who met King Obi Ossai first?

Do you know the meeting with Prince Tchukwuma in 1841?

Stick to Ika and stop dabbling in topics you have no idea about.

Ndo-Osumili believe they are Igbos 150%. That is the difference between them and other Ukwauanis.

Ukwuani and Ika share the same identity crisis. I be Igbo, I be Bini. same with Ukwuani. Ndo-Osumili are the one with a different mentality.

Mind you, they are not the poorest, they just have the larger landmass and miles of untouched land. Ika do not really have land. Ika are not richer than Igbos (Enuanis), they might be competing with Ukwuanis though.

See this one and his propanganda,It is only the Oshimili Igbos and Ikas who are richest.

Aniochas are poor and are competing with ukwuanis,face reality we knoe the truth.

So who tell you say slaves in Ndo-Oshimilis were Ika? This is one reason no take Igbo serious because of lies,self deceit, propaganda and rewriting of history.

It is a well knowm secret of how Igbo slaves settled in Aboh.Because people try to hide ugly past nor mean say they nor know.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:49am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:


Which Igbo slaves? You have started talking rubbish again. If anything the slaves in Ndo-Osumili were mostly from Ika. They didn't venture to the other side of the river because there were strong warriors on the other side. Their slaves came from Ika.

Where do you think the first meeting for the Bible started from?

Where is the first Igbo church in Delta built?

Who met King Obi Ossai first?

Do you know the meeting with Prince Tchukwuma in 1841?

Stick to Ika and stop dabbling in topics you have no idea about.

Ndo-Osumili believe they are Igbos 150%. That is the difference between them and other Ukwauanis.

Ukwuani and Ika share the same identity crisis. I be Igbo, I be Bini. same with Ukwuani. Ndo-Osumili are the one with a different mentality.

Mind you, they are not the poorest, they just have the larger landmass and miles of untouched land. Ika do not really have land. Ika are not richer than Igbos (Enuanis), they might be competing with Ukwuanis though.

Ika have more land than they need,even in edo state.Perhaps our land is more develop.

Ndo-oshimilis are running to our land and forgeting about their land.

Compare the Igbos of southeast who have too much population with less labd to cater for them,Ikas have more than we need.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Zooposki(f): 9:52am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:

Sufferingboy is not telling you because it does not fit his Igbophobia. In the past, Ndosumili were very influential in the area. They also see themselves as 100% Igbo. They think the Ukwanis have an identity crisis.

In Summary, this is the simple answer well-captured answer from an Ndo-Osumili native.

Ok. This explanation makes more sense. I was confused by his.
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Zooposki(f): 9:56am On Jan 07, 2022
Vintagepipes:

......There is nothing like low self esteem. If anything, Ndo-Oshimili are the ones who think they are superior.
.....Developments came to them first, in fact almost in the whole of Delta state, they were developed first.

.....Ndo-Oshimili see themselves as pure Igbos and feel Ukwuani (especially in Ukwuani LGA) are mixed and are too Biniphilic.

....Ndo-Oshimili are extremely Igbophilic.. They think they are 100% Igbos and do not want to associate with other Ukwuanis because those ones are divided.

...No, Ndo-Oshimili ever feel any sort of low-esteem, if anything they have a feeling of superiority because they see themselves as pure Igbos.

This makes more sense. I was confused by his explanation.
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 9:57am On Jan 07, 2022
Zooposki:


Ok. This explanation makes more sense. I was confused by his.

Are you new here?

Don't you know that guy above is Igbo and he online to do propaganda?

Stay away from him,else he can even rewrite your history and claim what he kvows nothing about.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Zooposki(f): 10:00am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Are you new here?

Don't you know that guy above is Igbo and he online to do propaganda?

Stay away from him,else he can even rewrite your history and claim what he kvows nothing about.

Lol. Ok
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 10:02am On Jan 07, 2022
Zooposki:


Lol. Ok

That is the truth.they are many here.We are ready to give them the media war they want.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Zooposki(f): 10:03am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Are you new here?

Don't you know that guy above is Igbo and he online to do propaganda?

Stay away from him,else he can even rewrite your history and claim what he kvows nothing about.

Is Ndokwa east Ukwuani or Oshimili?
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 10:11am On Jan 07, 2022
Zooposki:


Is Ndokwa east Ukwuani or Oshimili?

They are Ukwuanis specifically Ndo-Oshimilis.

Note:Ndo-oshimilis and Oshimilis are different people.

Oshimilis are Igbos(Oshimili south and Oshimili North LGA.s respectively)

Ndo-oshimilis are Ukwuanis who live close to water(Ndokwa East LGA).

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 10:39am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


They are Ukwuanis specifically Ndo-Oshimilis.

Note:Ndo-oshimilis and Oshimilis are different people.

Oshimilis are Igbos(Oshimili south and Oshimili North LGA.s respectively)

Ndo-oshimilis are Ukwuanis who live close to water(Ndokwa East LGA).
*Ndosumili
Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 10:39am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:

*Ndosumili

Thank you for spelling correction.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 11:03am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:


Look the common people in Ika,Ukwuani,Igbos(Oshimili and Aniocha) are not really interested in that useless union.

It is the political elite who use it to play politics,Even okowa is using it too for his political carrer.

Remove the political elite from Igbos(Oshimilis and Aniocha),Ika and Ukwuani,then you will see the real picture of what is on ground.

Urhobos are not really playing politics,just that they have the highest population in delta state.

Imagine Urhobos,Itsekiri,Isoko forming one voting block.

But okowa has been able to liberate ijaws and Isoko in delta,so we have them on our side now.

No matter how long it take,Ikas in edo will surely join us in delta and a new LGA will be created for them.

It is will help our political importance in that state.

The truth of the matter is that on a normal,is that Agbor was suppose to be capital of delta state.But IBB play us wayo.

Agbor town was already develop while asaba was a village until asaba was made capital.

The political elites are the ones fuelling and sponsoring the split. The fathers and leaders of old are the complete opposite of the leaders today.
In the days of Nzeogwu, "Delta Igbos" would never lose power in Delta state.

However, because of the rotation rubbish, politicians from each LGA feel they can split themselves further. So that the rotation can even get to them more specifically.

For greedy politicians, dividing further might benefit them directly and instantly in the short run but for visionaries, banding together might benefit them in the long run.

Anioma as a group is larger than Urhobo. They just need a support from Igbos in neighbouring Onitsha and Imo or even Rivers state and maybe small alliance from one small group in Delta to seal the deal. Heaven will not fall.


How is Agbor a capital? Agbor na village. Kiree (Asaba) had better opportunities for development. Instead of Agbor, them for kukuma leave the thing for Warri.

On the other hand, why is it that Agbor people detest being called, "Ika"? Division upon division.


Again, I saw a population census and writing about Ika in 1950. Many parts of today's Ukwuani identified as Ika. it seems there is a big reshuffling between those villages.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Sufferingboy(f): 11:20am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego:

The political elites are the ones fuelling and sponsoring the split. The fathers and leaders of old are the complete opposite of the leaders today.
In the days of Nzeogwu, "Delta Igbos(oshimilis and Aniochas)" would never lose power in Delta state.

However, because of the rotation rubbish, politicians from each LGA feel they can split themselves further. So that the rotation can even get to them more specifically.

For greedy politicians, dividing further might benefit them directly and instantly in the short run but for visionaries, banding together might benefit them in the long run.

Anioma as a group is larger than Urhobo. They just need a support from Igbos in neighbouring Onitsha and Imo or even Rivers state and maybe small alliance from one small group in Delta to seal the deal. Heaven will not fall.


How is Agbor a capital? Agbor na village. Kiree (Asaba) had better opportunities for development. Instead of Agbor, them for kukuma leave the thing for Warri.

On the other hand, why is it that Agbor people detest being called, "Ika"? Division upon division.


Again, I saw a population census and writing about Ika in 1950. Many parts of today's Ukwuani identified as Ika. it seems there is a big reshuffling between those villages.


Your second to last paragragh na one lie wey I don debunck tire here.

The last paragraph was done by colonial Oyinbos,who don't know difference between the groups.

The main word is "EKA" corrupted into Ika.
Oyinbos came and group us together with Ukwuanis,thank God we have seperated.

Politicians are not dividing anything.We are different people.The day wey e go set naim you go know wetin dey group.


The problems with Igbos is that you guys are greedy and cunning and busy claiming who and what is not yours as yours,we know this that why we will always checkmate you guys,anyway we don't need your support.Just if Urhobos too do,we go breakaway and form our own state.

Ibori knows that,that is why he suggested on rotation of gov position.


Forget that warri capital stuff,You can not make an industrilise city capital.

Agbor was in a best position,but IBB only compensated the oshimilis because of his wife.

And who tell you say Agbor na village?

Go see how much they dey sell land.

Asaba only overtook agbor once it was made capital city.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Ekealterego: 11:39am On Jan 07, 2022
Sufferingboy:



Your second to last paragragh na one lie wey I don debunck tire here.

The last paragraph was done by colonial Oyinbos,who don't know difference between the groups.

The main word is "EKA" corrupted into Ika.
Oyinbos came and group us together with Ukwuanis,thank God we have seperated.

Politicians are not dividing anything.We are different people.The day wey e go set naim you go know wetin dey group.


The problems with Igbos is that you guys are greedy and cunning and busy claiming who and what is not yours as yours,we know this that why we will always checkmate you guys,anyway we don't need your support.Just if Urhobos too do,we go breakaway and form our own state.

Ibori knows that,that is why he suggested on rotation of gov position.


Forget that warri capital stuff,You can not make an industrilise city capital.

Agbor was in a best position,but IBB only compensated the oshimilis because of his wife.

And who tell you say Agbor na village?

Go see how much they dey sell land.

Asaba only overtook agbor once it was made capital city.

You are contradicting yourself.

By we, do you mean, Ika two LGA will form their own state?

You claim that you are "different people", still you want to form state with people who you are different from?

You cannot claim difference and say, "we" when it benefits you. Stick to one identity.

Agbors do not even accept they are Ika in the first place. Based on your analysis, Ika is also a political formulation because the languages in Ika are OBVIOUSLY different. There is no one Ika language, they all speak differently.

One thing some of you do not know is that because Igbos in the East are very United, you think there are no difference. Even within state....Because of unity, you think Umuahia and Bende speak the same dialect? Completely different but they emphasis on things that bind them together rather than things that divide.

That is why Igbos (Enuanis) are by far the richest of you lots. They understand this principle.

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Re: OKOWA BE WISE:Okowa Must Support Ukwuani For Deputy Governor 2023 by Armaggedon: 11:45am On Jan 07, 2022
Ekealterego aka pazienza aren't you intelligent enough to know you are being 'railroaded' into causing division among Anioma people by a known impostor?

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