Stanchem029:

Thank God you didn't send your hard earned money to that fraudste*, Faith is just the AZA account used by Anthony munachi okeke. One of the certified crimina.ls on naira land.

my brother thanks a lot, just that i almost send the money and identify my kind gesture, but the net is quite bad over here, thank God am grateful

eyinjuege:


There is a reason malaria medications are available over the counter in Nigeria.
You really don't need tests to start treatment for malaria in Nigeria.
This is because Nigeria is a malaria endemic region- its everywhere all the time, so yes it is very common.
In order to avoid severe malaria and to avoid inundation of the barely available health services, medications are available over the counter for it.
A market woman/ truck driver can treat malaria in Nigeria, so that's not a tenable excuse to indict the Dr.
What I can possibly hold against the Dr is if he didn't advice them if his symptoms worsen to call an ambulance / take to hospital. Or even ask parents to call him for a follow up on Syl. I don't think the parents have health insurance, the govt too doesn't pay for them either, so it's strictly pay as you go when they ask a physician to come to them. If they don't call the Dr, he won't come.

I have been following the process and the family witness said they conducted tests and a scan on the 27th and were referred to the specialist hospital in Oghara. The tests showed Enlarged Liver but instead of going to the refered hospital this doctor with knowledge of the report chose to treat for malaria.

The doctor cannot escape liability on this.

A family that can afford a family doctor and Dowen fees can't be compared with the financial capacity of market men and women.

nachisunday:
my brother thanks a lot, just that i almost send the money and identify my kind gesture, but the net is quite bad over here, thank God am grateful

Previously, he was using nwamabo247's video to scam people on naira land and Twitter until I opened a thread for him. Then he stopped and decided to use AZA account this time. Any beggarly post here without an attached phone number and address for verifiability or otherwise is just a scam.

Black people and prayer.. Lol.. Funny how our parents think. I can imagine the unquantifiable number of deaths due to prayers and shunning medical care. For all I know, the purveyors of these mindset ie the pastors should be jointly held accountable for such avoidable deaths

eyinjuege:


Its really a sad case. A young life with so much potential lost.
A major lesson I've learnt in this case is never to run with all the social media brouhaha about different issues. And that things are not always the way they appear.

So true.

abbey621:


Do you know for a fact that the parents refused? When they refused did the doctor make a report? You keep saying Nigerian system is different from abroad but continue to use abroad as your yardstick....... Firstly, you said doctor diagnosed malaria yet it wasn't critical enough to warrant hospitalization, you then want to blame the parent for not taking the kid to the hospital when the physician clearly did not see it as essential until it was too late(Professional quack)......... but seriously, you are right as a parent I would have driven upside down in traffic to get my child to the emergency room but from a legal perspective they did nothing wrong unless you can prove they refused professional advice of the physician.

P.S. The wealthy or semi wealthy often have private doctors who make house calls not just for bed ridden patients, I have two doctors in my extended family doing this for a living.

What many of you don't seem to understand is that diseases do progress.
Because the Dr saw him today doesn't mean he needed hospital admission same day.
Conditions can worsen.
The 2nd time the Dr saw him, he referred them to the hospital because his condition had obviously worsened.
What I may fault the Dr for is if he didnt tell the parents (the first time he saw Syl) what to look out for if he gets worse and to take to the hospital and perhaps also ask them to arrange a follow up if he wasn't getting better.
But then again, you don't need a Dr to tell you when your child's condition is worsening because you see it yourself.
P.S: I never said bed ridden patients.
I said house bound. There is a difference.
All bed ridden patients are housebound, but not all housebound patients are bed ridden.
Some patients are housebound because of anxiety, frailty, social issues etc but not necessarily bed ridden.
You don't have to be wealthy before you get a house call in Europe.
Majority of private physicians/Drs who do visits mostly do it only when a patient is genuinely unable to come to their clinic. Same as their public physicians counterparts.
Most patients will come to the Dr when they are ill, unless they're genuinely unable to.

Eketem:


I have been following the process and the family witness said they conducted tests and a scan on the 27th and were referred to the specialist hospital in Oghara. The tests showed Enlarged Liver but instead of going to the refered hospital this doctor with knowledge of the report chose to treat for malaria.

The doctor cannot escape liability on this.

A family that can afford a family doctor and Dowen fees can't be compared with the financial capacity of market men and women.

I haven't been following all the details of the inquest.
But what I garnered from this post was that he was being treated at home before referral to hospital ?
And not tests first before treatment at home?
To me, what the scan (I'm hoping it's a CT scan and not the normal ultrasound) probably proves is that he didn't die from internal injuries from trauma as earlier stated/assumed.
Quite a number of things can cause an enlarged liver including malaria. You can look that up.
So the concern really should be what else was going on with him to cause his liver to be enlarged? Most causes of an enlarged liver will not kill that quickly.
Anything that could possibly make him deteriorate so fast to death within a week should be looked into.
I'm more interested in the blood tests done at the hospital- blood tests to look for sepsis, malaria, his kidney function, his liver function (enlarged liver doesn't necessarily mean the liver isn't still working within it's normal capacity o).
(My market women analogy was just to tell you that anybody can treat malaria and you don't need to have blood tests to do that.)
Anyway, I really hope genuine lessons are learned from the inquest and that schools, Drs, parents, the govt can put into place workable solutions for school children that fall ill and just put into place more robust laws to protect children and enforce such laws, whether the parents are rich or poor.

Phock2sweet:
Take his body to shrine bury him with cutlass and broom. You will see justice.

You are part of the problem.

eyinjuege:


What many of you don't seem to understand is that diseases do progress.
Because the Dr saw him today doesn't mean he needed hospital admission same day.
Conditions can worsen.
The 2nd time the Dr saw him, he referred them to the hospital because his condition had obviously worsened.
What I may fault the Dr for is if he didnt tell the parents (the first time he saw Syl) what to look out for if he gets worse and to take to the hospital and perhaps also ask them to arrange a follow up if he wasn't getting better.
But then again, you don't need a Dr to tell you when your child's condition is worsening because you see it yourself.
P.S: I never said bed ridden patients.
I said house bound. There is a difference.
All bed ridden patients are housebound, but not all housebound patients are bed ridden.
Some patients are housebound because of anxiety, frailty, social issues etc but not necessarily bed ridden.
You don't have to be wealthy before you get a house call in Europe.
Majority of private physicians/Drs who do visits mostly do it only when a patient is genuinely unable to come to their clinic. Same as their public physicians counterparts.
Most patients will come to the Dr when they are ill, unless they're genuinely unable to.

Okay America is different, your money dictates what you can and cannot do, most welathy folks have family doctors and in home consults. Back to the point, a credible doctor would never go by just symptoms alone, tests would be done to rule out other factors. Even as far back as early 2000s during my university days, my doctor insisted on running tests due to frequent malaria but I guess like everything in 9ja, money does not equate to quality......It is well!

abbey621:


Okay America is different, your money dictates what you can and cannot do, most welathy folks have family doctors and in home consults. Back to the point, a credible doctor would never go by just symptoms alone, tests would be done to rule out other factors. Even as far back as early 2000s during my university days, my doctor insisted on running tests due to frequent malaria but I guess like everything in 9ja, money does not equate to quality......It is well!

Tests were done on the 27th but the doctor ignored the results and referral, I don't know why she keeps ignoring that part

eyinjuege:


I haven't been following all the details of the inquest.
But what I garnered from this post was that he was being treated at home before referral to hospital ?
And not tests first before treatment at home?
To me, what the scan (I'm hoping it's a CT scan and not the normal ultrasound) probably proves is that he didn't die from internal injuries from trauma as earlier stated/assumed.
Quite a number of things can cause an enlarged liver including malaria. You can look that up.
So the concern really should be what else was going on with him to cause his liver to be enlarged? Most causes of an enlarged liver will not kill that quickly.
Anything that could possibly make him deteriorate so fast to death within a week should be looked into.
I'm more interested in the blood tests done at the hospital- blood tests to look for sepsis, malaria, his kidney function, his liver function (enlarged liver doesn't necessarily mean the liver isn't still working within it's normal capacity o).
(My market women analogy was just to tell you that anybody can treat malaria and you don't need to have blood tests to do that.)
Anyway, I really hope genuine lessons are learned from the inquest and that schools, Drs, parents, the govt can put into place workable solutions for school children that fall ill and just put into place more robust laws to protect children and enforce such laws, whether the parents are rich or poor.

I have been following and I have shared the links here. Tests were done on the 27th he was referred the doctor ignored the referral and chose to treat malaria at home.

Eketem:


Tests were done on the 27th but the doctor ignored the results and referral, I don't know why she keeps ignoring that part

The doctor ignored the results? Are you sure? If this is true then I'm even more shocked than Buhari.......

eyinjuege:


There is a reason malaria medications are available over the counter in Nigeria.
You really don't need tests to start treatment for malaria in Nigeria.
This is because Nigeria is a malaria endemic region- its everywhere all the time, so yes it is very common.
In order to avoid severe malaria and to avoid inundation of the barely available health services, medications are available over the counter for it.
A market woman/ truck driver can treat malaria in Nigeria, so that's not a tenable excuse to indict the Dr.
What I can possibly hold against the Dr is if he didn't advice them if his symptoms worsen to call an ambulance / take to hospital. Or even ask parents to call him for a follow up on Syl. I don't think the parents have health insurance, the govt too doesn't pay for them either, so it's strictly pay as you go when they ask a physician to come to them. If they don't call the Dr, he won't come.

Health insurance is not the issue, cost of treatment is not the issue a family that can afford Dowen or Falana is not poor.

Medical costs here is not as expensive as what obtains in America.

Even poor patients here crowd fund or beg to get money for treatment where insurance is not available.

The doctor himself admitted to treating with prayers and not strictly following the protocol after the initial referral. It is not defensible

abbey621:


The doctor ignored the results? Are you sure? If this is true then I'm even more shocked than Buhari.......

Yes the family witness said the tests were done since 27th and they were referred

Eketem:


I have been following and I have shared the links here. Tests were done on the 27th he was referred the doctor ignored the referral and chose to treat malaria at home.

I'm not ignoring anything.
This post states rhe Dr started treating from 26th to 30th.
Made no mention of any tests done.
You're the one who mentioned tests were done and only talked about a scan.
You didn't tell us what type of scan, and neither did you mention other tests that were done .
I doubt an enlarged liver killed Syl and that on it's own doesn’t warrant a same day admission, unless he had other more worrying symptoms and other things picked up on his blood tests which hadn't been shared anywhere

Eketem:


Health insurance is not the issue, cost of treatment is not the issue a family that can afford Dowen or Falana is not poor.

Medical costs here is not as expensive as what obtains in America.

Even poor patients here crowd fund or beg to get money for treatment where insurance is not available.

The doctor himself admitted to treating with prayers and not strictly following the protocol after the initial referral. It is not defensible

No where did the Dr say he was treating with prayers. He said he believed in prayers and medical treatment.
This highlighted part below I lifted directly from the original post :

What was your response to the treatment at a church as opposed to a proper medical facility?” George asked.

“I am aware that the church is not a treatment centre. I am not against prayer, I will prefer a combination of both prayer and medical treatment,” the doctor replied.

The doctor disclosed that on the day Oromoni died, he referred him to Delta State University Teaching Hospital, Oghara, for further treatment.

eyinjuege:

I'm not ignoring anything.
This post states rhe Dr started treating from 26th to 30th.
Made no mention of any tests done.
You're the one who mentioned tests were done and only talked about a scan.
You didn't tell us what type of scan, and neither did you mention other tests that were done .
I doubt an enlarged liver killed Syl and that on it's own doesn’t warrant a same day admission, unless he had other more worrying symptoms and other things picked up on his blood tests which hadn't been shared anywhere

I can only share what witnesses reported, not full details of the tests.
Check me profile you will see I have been posting updates on this matter. It was reported

Aplaudez:
The should just allow the boy's spirit rest in peace

So to u the best way to allow a dead persons spirit rest in peace is to allow things go anyhow, instead of fighting or justice?

YungMillionaire:
Its all coming out small...small...Instead of seeking MEDICAL treatment they were PRAYING...so sad. Ignorance is a disease. When we tell them that the oyinbo people that gave us white jesus no even carry am for head like dis, they will say we are disrespectful.

Chai! E pain me o!

eventually, you guys will see that tge parents took that boy to a massage center where tgey inflicted all that injury on him. In sane society, the boy's parents woukd be tge prime suspects.

Chijeep:
should we be surprised?

If you no fit fear our rich people in authority believe me if you see a hungry leopard you won't run.
I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING DIRTY IN THIS CASE

There is nothing dirty in the case part from from lack of further probe on the school, the hostel mates. What led to the arrest of some students from the school, ?
Nobody has interrogated the victim's hostel mates, not even journalists, why is that side not talked about.

xpool:

There is nothing dirty in the case part from from lack of further probe on the school, the hostel mates. What led to the arrest of some students from the school, ?
Nobody has interrogated the victim's hostel mates, not even journalists, why is that side not talked about.

It is an Inquest ongoing in court.
This is the family presenting their case and witnesses, because it is the family making accusation. When the family is done with their witnesses th school will present and police will present.

I don't understand why people have refused to understand this. It is not a conclusion just a process in an Inquest.

peppermint7:
So like this
This boy matter don go
Nothing has been done
No arrest has been made

Like I always say
The best investment anyone can do for his generation is to leave this shithole

This country has gone to the dogs

You want make them arrest the parents? Abi can't you see this matter is pointing to a case of negligence.

May his soul Rest in peace.
Must the school be held responsible for the parents negligence? The lady pathologist one of over 7 that perform the autopsy stated his cause of death. And it was linked to a badly managed case of sepsis. When the boy should have been pumped with specific antibiotics to fight multipling bacteria, he was taken to church for prayers ie spiritual attack. Then treated at home for maleria!. Even the video where he was being massaged (making it worse) was not in a medical facility.
I hope all these revelation being brought forward wount expose the parents to prosecution for child negligence.
Sorry to say, Bowen that has thousands of students, hundreds of workers cannot be held as "fall guy" in the court of public mob justice. Medical science, the ongoing inquest will surely point to the right direction.
Letigation or prosecution must follow!

With this revelations,I'm so angry with the parents right now.

No matter what was done to the boy in his school hostel,the parents should have given him proper medical attention.

May his soul rest in peace.

True oo .
Truth don dey come out small small....Ignorance is a disease.. Seek medical attention, Dem go dey pray..Chaii

YungMillionaire:
Its all coming out small...small...Instead of seeking MEDICAL treatment they were PRAYING...so sad. Ignorance is a disease. When we tell them that the oyinbo people that gave us white jesus no even carry am for head like dis, they will say we are disrespectful.

Chai! E pain me o!

peppermint7:
So like this
This boy matter don go
Nothing has been done
No arrest has been made

Like I always say
The best investment anyone can do for his generation is to leave this shithole

This country has gone to the dogs

Do you think court cases just deliver judgements? Nothing has bn done? School is still closed, this doctors testimony means they didn’t take d boy for treatment which has opened up the case even more

Tobidarker02:
The school said he sustained football injury, how are they suppose to know on time it's a serious case?
What happened to a healthy child should be the question here, whats the court business if he was treated or not?
Omo! They don finally spoil this case.

That’s not how court works

Chiefecho:
This country is really still a developing country
I trust the USA with their investigations

All this lie lie
Them dey do by now that case for don settle since

Yet many cases have not bn closed in US till date dating back to decades.

Make una hire thugs, burn the school first

abbey621:


Can you quote the law that you speak of? A physician operates according to certain ethical codes and one of it is do no harm, what the f**k do you mean the child presented malaria symptoms? Based on what? Physician is the expert here, he should have been the one to advise hospitalization immediately. Please don't speak of abroad as if it is one magical place, I've been abroad for a decade and some years now and we have doctors making house calls all the time, it is the job of the expert to insist on emergency protocols. No law abroad would jail such a parent, I repeat no law!

You are naive. By now, the parent would have been arrested by child protection services. I can show you more than ten cases involving such negligent parents. The doctor is not a magician. You can treat malaria today and the child can have infection tommorrow. The doctor only needed to advise them and document... if the parent refused, he couldn't do anything. If he suspected the child's case was serious and the parent were negligent, he might report but in Nigeria, there is no clear cut person to report to and unlike abroad where the parent don't have to pay, the parent have to pay for medical services in Nigeria so if they Insist they don't want admission there is nothing the doctor would do because he won't use his money to be treating the patient.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/child-neglect-when-is-it-a-crime-50439

PoliteActivist:


The school should be shut FOREVER.
LIARS!
Students said there was no football played that period AND the first autopsy and Sly's own words supported what the students said actually happened!

Nobody want his child to die in school an we all felt bad for it but closing the school won't resurrect the dead child.

The parent failed on their part but everybody is now blaming the School. Nigerians are good in blame game.

Policies should be put in place to check issues like this in the future. It should be a lesson for schools. Already l have seen changes in my kid's school to address issues like this.

I don't know the autopsy you are talking about but the two am aware freed the school of what the parent told media.

As a healthcare worker l know how people can throw blame when they loose relations even when it is not anybody's fault.

WiszyFraud:
There are always two sides to a story..

when parents cry on social media the most, there's a little guilt hidden.