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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 11:24pm On Feb 27, 2022
Igboid:


Nope.
It's Asi Minni!

Water remains Mini in OPOBO and Bonny, which is Ndoki and Etche dialect way of saying Miri/mili.
Infact, Bonny people call sea water Mini-Nnu. Meaning salt water.
He had a daughter asi-mini BY NAME.
open your eyes.


The spot where she dissapeared is called asi-mini minji, meaning Asi-mini's water!

You get eyes but you no dey see.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 11:28pm On Feb 27, 2022
JANK23H:

I do agree with you,but in science nephilims and angels can not be proven.

The accounts as to the migration from Eygpt did posit that the migration was from the Upper Nile to Lake Chad and through the waters to the Niger Delta.Again there isn't any concrete proof.
No, lower Nile (because the map was depicted upside dowm, so the part called upper Nile use to be lower Nile in ancient times.
And yes science doesn't believe in nephilim and fallen angels, but they believe in UFO's, aliens, sky people. Who could have been the gods our forefathers spoke of who landed from the skies.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Igboid: 11:29pm On Feb 27, 2022
Alabo7978:

He had a daughter asi-mini BY NAME.
open your eyes.


The spot where she dissapeared is called asi-mini minji, meaning Asi-mini's water!

You get eyes but you no dey see.

Asimini minji is more like a tautology.
Minji is Ijaw( those who were influenced by Igbos of Bonny) corrupted version of the Igbo word "Mini".
The original Ijaw word for water is "Beni".
That's what real Izons in Opokuma and Kolokuma use.

Only Ijaws influenced by Igbos from Aboh, Ndoki and Ngwa call water Minji! It's a corruption of Igbo word Mini for water.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 11:32pm On Feb 27, 2022
Igboid:


The have always been terrorists/pirates terrorising those waters, they were not Aboriginals there.
Even till now, the Ijaws are still terrorising Bonny waters.
It has been a deep source of outcry by Bonny people.

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-55614847
Calm down ogbeni
There are always nuisance found anywhere.
Bandits use to terrorize Nembe waters too.

Unknown gun men terrorize you people too, but they are still igbos.

Few days back, didn't unknown gun men gang rape some female students at anambara?

Remove the log in your eyes first brother man.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Igboid: 11:33pm On Feb 27, 2022
Alabo7978:

Calm down ogbeni
There are always nuisance found anywhere.
Bandits use to terrorize Nembe waters too.

Unknown gun men terrorize you people too, but they are still igbos.

Few days back, didn't unknown gun men gang rape some female students at anambara?

Remove the log in your eyes first brother man.

Lol!
Nice attempt at obfuscation of issue.
Lol!

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 11:37pm On Feb 27, 2022
Igboid:


Asimini minji is more like a tautology.
Minji is Ijaw( those who were influenced by Igbos of Bonny) corrupted version of the Igbo word "Mini".
The original Ijaw word for water is "Beni".
That's what real Izons in Opokuma and Kolokuma use.

Only Ijaws influenced by Igbos from Aboh, Ndoki and Ngwa call water Minji! It's a corruption of Igbo word Mini for water.
LMAO
how does "mini" relate to "minji"
You're talking to a Tata abi?
Mini can never be corrupted because it is too simple abeg.
Guy no dey lie.
Minji,mindi,mingi are the ijoid words for water.
So if they write this in an interview to pick out the odd one
(Mingi,mindi,minji, mini)
You go fail like this?
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 11:40pm On Feb 27, 2022
Lol, but wait a minute, why is no one talking about the Oru-igbo and why they greet in an ijoid Language?
Putindbut JANK23H robbstark look how Igboid SlayerForever etc avoided that one.

Oru-igbo nua o!!!
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Putindbutt: 11:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
Igboid:


Talbot wasn't guessing when he called Igbos great!
He wasn't using "perhaps".
He could see the Igbo were a great race who were masters in metallurgy, textiles, agriculture, arts, etc.
Baike was left in awe at the quality of fabrics Igbo cloth makers could make, our skilled blacksmiths who could replicate any metal work they came in contact with at first sight, our art works were great, we were adept at producing agricultural products of economic value. etc.
Infact the whole trade in the Eastern Delta was based on Igbo output, which was why immediately Jaja rushed and corned Imo River opening and cut Bonny off from access to Igbo mainland, Bonny died a slow economic death! While Opobo rose.

Yes! The Great Igbo, the superior race!
Lol. the whites saw a group of farmers and hunters engaging in iron smelting and were stunned to have ever seen the first of its kind in Africa and thereby called ibos "great"..

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by JANK23H(m): 12:15am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:
Lol, but wait a minute, why is no one talking about the Oru-igbo and why they greet in an ijoid Language?
Putindbut JANK23H robbstark look how Igboid SlayerForever etc avoided that one.

Oru-igbo nua o!!!
I know very little about them apart from where they are located.I may have to do some study.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Igboid: 12:27am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:

LMAO
how does "mini" relate to "minji"
You're talking to a Tata abi?
Mini can never be corrupted because it is too simple abeg.
Guy no dey lie.
Minji,mindi,mingi are the ijoid words for water.
So if they write this in an interview to pick out the odd one
(Mingi,mindi,minji, mini)
You go fail like this?

Ijaw word for water is Beni!
That's what is used in Kolokuma and Opokuma.
Only Eastern Ijaws with Igbo influence use Mingi and it's obviously copied from Mini used by Igbos in Ikwerre, Bonny, OPOBO, Ndoki and Etche!

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Igboid: 12:29am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:
Lol, but wait a minute, why is no one talking about the Oru-igbo and why they greet in an ijoid Language?
Putindbut JANK23H robbstark look how Igboid SlayerForever etc avoided that one.

Oru-igbo nua o!!!

Oru/Olu are the Riverine Igbos who influenced Ijaws.
Aboh is the main town of the Olus/Oru.
Many hitherto Oru-Igbo communities have been Ijawnized.
Biseni is an example.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Rostikol: 1:05am On Feb 28, 2022
Oru easily refers to the ancient Egyptian Son of God, Horus.

Orisha of the Yorubas is also tied to the long version name of Horus, which is Horus-at.

Pictures of some ancient Egyptian pharoahs from circa 3000 BC who definitely look like they could be of Ijaw, Bini, or other Nigerian lineage.





Egyptian God Osiris, father of Horus.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Rostikol: 1:12am On Feb 28, 2022


Pharaoh Mentuhotep, 2100 BC


Pharaoh Tutunkamun 1332 – 1323 BC
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 2:01am On Feb 28, 2022
Igboid:


Oru/Olu are the Riverine Igbos who influenced Ijaws.
Aboh is the main town of the Olus/Oru.
Many hitherto Oru-Igbo communities have been Ijawnized.
Biseni is an example.
you funny o, lol.
Ijaws who saw more rivers and even the oceans was now influenced by Oru-igbo. LMAO.
You need a psychological evaluation.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 2:05am On Feb 28, 2022
JANK23H:

I know very little about them apart from where they are located.I may have to do some study.
Yea brother
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 2:11am On Feb 28, 2022
Igboid:


Ijaw word for water is Beni!
That's what is used in Kolokuma and Opokuma.
Only Eastern Ijaws with Igbo influence use Mingi and it's obviously copied from Mini used by Igbos in Ikwerre, Bonny, OPOBO, Ndoki and Etche!
Shatapp!you dont know what you're saying, it's mingi!
Which wan is beni again?

You for call am Benin republic na
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by IduNaOba: 2:12am On Feb 28, 2022
Oru are the riperian Igbo
Igbo mmili
I wonder wetin concern ijaw and oru Igbo

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Alabo7978(m): 2:12am On Feb 28, 2022
Rostikol:


Pharaoh Mentuhotep, 2100 BC


Pharaoh Tutunkamun 1332 – 1323 BC
You're enlightened bro.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by BlackSaints: 2:24am On Feb 28, 2022
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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by BlackSaints: 2:28am On Feb 28, 2022
Ojiofor:


Did they carry out DNA test on Okrika people,pls what was the result?
And have you igbos carry out DNA test on Okrika people to know the results? Ignorance is when you think that you know others better than themselves.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by BlackSaints: 2:31am On Feb 28, 2022
mrvitalis:

50% Igbo 50% ijaw
Okrika is 97% ijaw and 3% Igbo Oga. There's nothing like 50%50% the difference is clearly seen In our way of life,dressing, language ect.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by Rostikol: 2:48am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:

You're enlightened bro.

Thank you sir.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by nuelleoz(m): 4:09am On Feb 28, 2022
SlayerForever:
Ijaw keep claiming the word Oru but yet they have no tangible explanation as regards the term Oru.

Let me tell you what I think. I think the Orus were actually Riverine Igbos that were in existence from the beginning of the Igbo race. Oru is more evenly spread and established across Igbo society that in Ijaw society. Oru appears a foreign concept in ijaw origin.


The Oru would be joined by the Ijaw people in a migration much later, and over generations the two became thoroughly mixed. Hence, Ijaw superimposed or more probably eroded the practices of the riverine Oru Igbos they came upon, leaving only the name Oru as survivor from that era, and from then the ijaw we know today continued in existence.

That is my explanation of Oru's awkward existence in Ijaw today.




As stated. It is what you think, and what you think may be incorrect.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by nuelleoz(m): 4:12am On Feb 28, 2022
mrvitalis:

50% Igbo 50% ijaw


No open your mouth dey talk wetin you nor know o! Okrika is about 98% Ijaw. Go anywhere, meet any okrika person.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by nuelleoz(m): 4:15am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:

Shatapp!you dont know what you're saying, it's mingi!
Which wan is beni again?

You for call am Benin republic na


The real Ijaw word for water is Beni. In Western, Southern & Central Ijaw. Am from Bayelsa and water is Beni. Likewise those ijaws from Delta states and Edo state also call it beni - pronounced "bey-ni"

Eastern Ijaw language has been bastardized by intermarriages and association with other tribes bordering it (Igbos), hence the different vocabulary for water.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by nuelleoz(m): 4:20am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:

Migration has been a thing of all living things which roamed the surface of the earth. From birds, herds of animals, to the tiny ants; all at one point in time of their existence has crossed land masses, rivers, valleys, vegetations in search of a favorable climate. Migration can also be caused by natural occurrence, supernatural occurrence, war and famine.
Almost every civilization of ancient times and occurrence correlates directly or indirectly and spoke of a particular location of creation, the expansion of man, the deluge, the coming of people who came from the sky (fallen angels(religion), extraterrestrials(knowledge enthusiasts), aliens(scientists) sky people (culture/oral history) but it all directly or indirectly correlates one way or the other; but that is another discussion on its own.
On migration just like a man who has come of age does, he stands on his feet, lives his father’s land and goes to settle in another place convenient for him from the days of The biblical figure Abraham even until this very day. Be it the garden of Eden, Elysian plain, or any location based on a cultural entity telling of the first place of creation or habitation, people will tend to move as population grows which will then cause the corners of Earth to be filled or habited.
It has been agreed upon by people of every culture, race, and color that life indeed began in eastern africa around the Tanzania-Eritrea-Egyptian and Ethiopian basin. And the rise in population definitely caused people to begin to migrate to the middle East and corners of Africa. The oldest civilization being that of Egypt which had very powerful influence and culture which spread unto Nubia and the middle East will definitely go along with the people who migrate, this people who migrated indeed came with the Egyptian deity worship of (H)Oru or (H)eru with them.

THE NILE DELTA OF LOWER EGYPT, THE NIGER-DELTA OF LOWER NIGERIA

The formation of foundation of a civilization doesn’t or never hinges on a particular person as it takes a people to form a city. The formation of the ijaw Ethnic nation was a gradual process as with other Ethnic nationalities. There are accounts of the sky people in other words fallen angels, extraterrestrial who came with advance knowledge and power from beyond the clouds and it is these divine sky people that the batch headed by Ijo met. Much isn’t known about those period but the migration batch led by ujo,Ejo,ijo from the NILE DELTA who saw a similar abode in the NIGER-DELTA and dwelt with the sky people who were called Kumoni(ancient people) gave birth to the kumoni-oru first ancestors, but prior to the union or meeting, this migration from Egypt came through Nupe(the Nupe people also claim to have come from Egypt) and then IFE(buttressing the Yoruba account that the ijaws came from Ife (NOTE: UJO is known and called idekoseroake in Yoruba account), and then camping at the current site in which Benin city now stands, this was before the founding of the Benin empire. Ijo then led a small batch and journeyed till they got to the site remembered as Agadagba-buo at igbedi-creek and made there his abode. He then sent a message back to his followers at Uzama(Benin) and old Ife to join him. After staying with his followers for a number of years, Ijoh alongside 9 companions decided to jour
Agadagba-buo became the springboard from whence his sons Namely; GBARAN, Opu-Okun&Kala-Okun, Tara, Oporo&Olodi, Opu-beni, Ogula & Kuru, Oyan, Oru, Opu-Ogbo & Kala-ogbo. These sons and their sons became the founding fathers of the various (H)Oru clans which stretches from one end of the delta to the other end and further inland.

(H)ORU
The Oru is an ancient name associated with the the ijaw Ethnic nation that inhabits a huge space of the niger-delta in southern Nigeria. They are a people rich in culture and boasts of some of the most wealthiest and powerful city states that grew to influence from as early as the 1400s to the 1890s. The Oru follow a more ancient system which is the most important pillar of nature which venerates the mother. The Oru people are also associated with the ancient Nubians who once ruled Egypt and known as the ourou(god or king) and also associated with the Egyptian god (h)Oru. The NILE DELTA AND NIGER DELTA might be coincidence but this also shouldn’t be coincidence that the ijoid meaning of Oru means ; a gOD, a deity, Divinity, sky person (fallen angel). It should be brought to light that several ijoid names glorify (H)Oru such as ORUBEBE, ORUWARI(which means house of god or house of (h)Oru), ORUBO(which means follower of god or follower of (H)Oru), ORUTEME(god's spirit or spirit of (h)Oru. Other ijoid names are orukari, orufene etc
TEMU
The Egyptian god who created himself by emanating from the darkest watery abyss as the first ever being which existed before creation is usually associated with TEMUNO, TAMUNO OR TEM. Out of loneliness he created his children whom became the first deities.

A FEW FACTS ABOUT THE IJAWS

1) The IJAWS were known and called INDO-ORU or UMUORU by the Aboh's, Oru was it’s ancient name as also known by the Europeans. Dr baikie in his later words said of them; “from the part of the river nun up till this point Taylor creek, the country on either side is called Oru. The people are of the same tribe of those who inhabit the tract of the country up on to the RIO fermoso where however they are called Ejo or ojo by which name they are known at aboh, brass and Bonny, by English palm oil traders they are often termed jo-men. Throughout the district but one Language is spoken with but with little dialectical difference
2) The Ibaka people of Akwa-ibom speak the kirike dialect of okrika, they are related to the Ibaka people of okrika
3) The bille people; a sub-clan of the Kalabari people are also found in Demsa local government area of adamawa state. A section of the people left the town in anger after a disagreement several generations ago. The bille in adamawa still grace occasions at their ancestral home and a majority of them through a poll welcomed the idea to reunite with their bille-kalabari people of ijaw. They are numbered about 88,000
4) The people in the Igbo region termed Oru-igbo or Oru-na-igbo by the IBOS are most likely an ancient batch of Ijaw people who migrated to the region. The term has become an umbrella of these unique IBO group whose river affinity hasn’t eroded away over the centuries as the central Igbo Language for thank you is 'dalu' and is quickly understood by all igbos, but quite different from the Oru-igbo people who say mbuana or mbana, imbana, imbanua which isn’t understood by the igbos but quickly understood by the ijaws who say imbanua or nua. It is also a thing altogether why these group pride themselves as ORU-IGBO and not as Igbos.
5) Along the Oguta river in K beach Imo state was once a town where the ijaw people of kalabari once lived, though they deserted this town back to their ancestral land in kalabari kingdom, river state at the eve of the Nigerian civil war. Ofcourse the present settlers of this town address themselves as ORU-IGBO and when there is a serious land dispute, kalabari-ijaw chiefs are called upon to settle such dispute.



To be honest. I dispute this history, As a Izon man, it is contrary to what I know and also contrary to two other accounts of the ancestry of the Ijaw people.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:48am On Feb 28, 2022
nuelleoz:





As stated. It is what you think, and what you think may be incorrect.


Yes it may be incorrect.
Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:50am On Feb 28, 2022
Alabo7978:

LMAO
how does "mini" relate to "minji"
You're talking to a Tata abi?
Mini can never be corrupted because it is too simple abeg.
Guy no dey lie.
Minji,mindi,mingi are the ijoid words for water.
So if they write this in an interview to pick out the odd one
(Mingi,mindi,minji, mini)
You go fail like this?


Mindi is a purely Igbo word.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:53am On Feb 28, 2022
JANK23H:

You sound rediculos with that Alagoa/Williamson nonsense.I hope you realise she did a lot of work on both tribes.This is a thorough research again and not a memoir from a drunk ship captain.



On scholarly validity and admissibility the memoir is superior wink

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:56am On Feb 28, 2022
JANK23H:

Okolo-Curlew
Ama-town

Just like other Ijo towns with 'ama',the first 'a' is usually taken out.So if you say Okoloma you won't be wrong,just like Finiama is called Finima.


That's how Ijaw towns are named. But Igbo towns have a dominant Ma suffix in their town names too. So automatically your position is debatable.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:56am On Feb 28, 2022
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JANK23H:

A town dominated by Igbo slaves would definitely have people claiming to be Igbos.That's what Crow and co didn't factor in initially.Besides Basden's research work extended to Bonny.
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Bro this is absolute rubbish.

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Re: Are The Ijaws Nubians/egyptians Of Antiquity? by SlayerForever: 8:58am On Feb 28, 2022
JANK23H:

How would an Igbo man give a country an Ijo name.That should tell you there are holes in that account.You've all tried to spin that Okoloama meaning and it still doesn't stick.


The name is Okoloma not Okoloama.

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